the second LD gain was a given. They won by a landslide also last year in that ward
> @KentRising said: > Another Lib Dem gain in Sunderland. Labour are all over the show here. But what does it mean regarding their ref stance? Lib Dems are federalists!
> @Foxy said: > > @Thayer5 said: > > It would appear the voters of Sunderland aren't especially worried about their Nissan factory. > > Some seem more bothered than others.
According to Stephen Bush, Labour are expected to do worse in Sunderland because there is a lot of issues with the council there.
Probably true, and they have a high position to fall from there, as Tories do elsewhere. Still, always nice to start the night off with some massive swings or shock results.
> @kle4 said: > > @kle4 said: > > > I love the smell of fear in the early hours..... > > > > > > https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1124079140754395144 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe, but Sunderland results really are not always a great predictor, so excuse or not it might be right. > > > > > > UKIP, either for themselves or because BP are not there, surprising given their showing last year though. > > > > Remember: Sunderland was a great predictor for the Brexit referendum...... > > True enough, I guess we need to see some results in the Tory shires to see if Sunderland is reflective of things yet.
It looks like the Tories will be put to the sword in Cotswold (remain) while doing well in neighbouring Swindon (leave) where they've just gained one.
> @Thayer5 said: > > @Foxy said: > > > @Thayer5 said: > > > It would appear the voters of Sunderland aren't especially worried about their Nissan factory. > > > > Some seem more bothered than others. > > Same for Swindon though, despite Honda? > > https://twitter.com/kevina364/status/1124082477038018561 > > The Brexiteers are VERY Brexity.
> @dyedwoolie said: > > @Thayer5 said: > > > @Foxy said: > > > > @Thayer5 said: > > > > It would appear the voters of Sunderland aren't especially worried about their Nissan factory. > > > > > > Some seem more bothered than others. > > > > Same for Swindon though, despite Honda? > > > > https://twitter.com/kevina364/status/1124082477038018561 > > > > The Brexiteers are VERY Brexity. > > Never held by con before
Lab councillor went Indy and split the vote according to the BBC
> @kle4 said: > > @kle4 said: > > > > @kle4 said: > > > > > > > I love the smell of fear in the early hours..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1124079140754395144 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe, but Sunderland results really are not always a great predictor, so excuse or not it might be right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UKIP, either for themselves or because BP are not there, surprising given their showing last year though. > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember: Sunderland was a great predictor for the Brexit referendum...... > > > > > > True enough, I guess we need to see some results in the Tory shires to see if Sunderland is reflective of things yet. > > > > It looks like the Tories will be put to the sword in Cotswold (remain) while doing well in neighbouring Swindon (leave) where they've just gained one. > > Swindon was only marginally leave I would have thought, given Wiltshire as a whole was 52:48.
So far an intriguingly bad night for Labour, an unexpectedly meh night for the Tories, a rather good night for the LDs.... and I can hear Nigel Farage chortling as I type.
Re Huawei. Best, closest pronunciation is Whah (Scots wh sound) way as in a street. Quote function crashing my site on IPad quicker than the Labour vote in Sunderland.
> @El_Capitano said: > And with beautiful timing, my iTunes has just cued up the right bit of Duruflé's Requiem: > > "Dies iræ, dies illa". Or in the English paraphrase, "Day of wrath and doom impending"...
> @Sean_F said: > It looks like the Tories will be put to the sword in Cotswold (remain) while doing well in neighbouring Swindon (leave) where they've just gained one.
> @kle4 said: > > @kle4 said: > > > > @kle4 said: > > > > > > > I love the smell of fear in the early hours..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1124079140754395144 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe, but Sunderland results really are not always a great predictor, so excuse or not it might be right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UKIP, either for themselves or because BP are not there, surprising given their showing last year though. > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember: Sunderland was a great predictor for the Brexit referendum...... > > > > > > True enough, I guess we need to see some results in the Tory shires to see if Sunderland is reflective of things yet. > > > > It looks like the Tories will be put to the sword in Cotswold (remain) while doing well in neighbouring Swindon (leave) where they've just gained one. > > Swindon was only marginally leave I would have thought, given Wiltshire as a whole was 52:48.
I have family in Swindon, the rest of Wiltshire can be posh and wealthy, I would expect them to be remain. Which means Swindon would be heavily leave. 22 round the table at Xmas. 22 leavers in Swindon.
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Swindon and Wiltshire are separate councils.
I am well aware - I had thought the county of Wiltshire was 52:48 though, when the two councils' votes were combined.
> @El_Capitano said: > And with beautiful timing, my iTunes has just cued up the right bit of Duruflé's Requiem: > > "Dies iræ, dies illa". Or in the English paraphrase, "Day of wrath and doom impending"... <
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> Any discussion of Huawei must first attempt to answer the most important, most crucial point: how do you pronounce "Huawei"? I've tried "Huw-awawwie", "Howawawaway", "Uuueeee" and "Hua-wey". <
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I have tried "Howay". Unfortunately I was down south and I got blank looks...
> @Danny565 said: > > @Thayer5 said: > > So far an intriguingly bad night for Labour, an unexpectedly meh night for the Tories, a rather good night for the LDs.... and I can hear Nigel Farage chortling as I type. > > Are you SeanT?<
> @Thayer5 said: > > @Danny565 said: > > > @Thayer5 said: > > > So far an intriguingly bad night for Labour, an unexpectedly meh night for the Tories, a rather good night for the LDs.... and I can hear Nigel Farage chortling as I type. > > > > Are you SeanT?< > > ____ > > You what? NO.
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> > So far an intriguingly bad night for Labour, an unexpectedly meh night for the Tories, a rather good night for the LDs.... and I can hear Nigel Farage chortling as I type.
I love Durufle's Requiem! The way it slowly emerges into beautiful noise, like something appearing from a mist. Just beautiful. Better than Faure, I think
Absolutely. Of 20th century requiems, Duruflé for beauty, Howells for heart-wrenching pain.
(And if we're on choral music while we wait for the results to roll in, Yves Castagnet's Messe Salve Regina is utterly fabulous. Modern - well, early 2000s - but timeless in the way that Duruflé was, and the Notre Dame connection is particularly relevant at present.)
Unless these results are REALLY untypical of the whole picture, people really are crazy to think Labour should/will become even more anti-Brexit than they already are
> @Thayer5 said: > @Danny565 said: > > > > You what? NO. > > > > Your writing style just reminds me of his. < > > _______ > > I take that as a mild compliment. I lurked for a longtime. He was entertaining - but far too angry and Brexity for me.
SeanT too Brexity? Depends which hour of the day you caught him.....
Turnout felt high in my Surrey (Waverley Binscombe) ward. The Labour promise turned out at General election levels (70-80%) but there were lots of Tories too - the polling station was bust all day without interruption. I genuinely have no idea what to expect. The returning officer claimed it was illegal to tell us the total turnout figure - something that's news to me, can anyone confirm this view?
But as I reported earlier, I expect the LibDems to be the obvious winners overall, without a real Tory meltdown.
> @Danny565 said: > Unless these results are REALLY untypical of the whole picture, people really are crazy to think Labour should/will become even more anti-Brexit than they already are
Losing lots of votes to the Greens where they are standing.
Is it me or are they getting better at local stuff generally? They had 5x the candidates in Wiltshire in 2017 compared to 2013. Ok they did not win any, but as a sign of organisation it seemed notable at the time.
> @El_Capitano said: > The BBC elections ticker has suddenly announced council holds for Broxbourne (Con), Wigan (Lab), South Tyneside (Lab), Havant (Con). Err... why? > > Also, WTF GREENS GAIN BIRKENHEAD
> Unless these results are REALLY untypical of the whole picture, people really are crazy to think Labour should/will become even more anti-Brexit than they already are
Losing lots of votes to the Greens where they are standing.
None of the Above vote, not necessarily remain, especially if there’s no Kippers.
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> https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124082540623560704
Those Brexiteers again....
> Oh no, gonna have to stay up all night. Popcorn time!
Was there ever any doubt?
> What's the "scandal" for Labour in Sunderland?
They've tried to bollocks Brexit.....
Labour getting a fisting.
Also I didn't get any booze in.
> It would appear the voters of Sunderland aren't especially worried about their Nissan factory.
Some seem more bothered than others.
https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/1124076786269216768?s=21
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/paul-middleton-paedophile-sting-avoids-15660392
> @KentRising said:
> Another Lib Dem gain in Sunderland. Labour are all over the show here. But what does it mean regarding their ref stance? Lib Dems are federalists!
https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1124082593618649088
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https://twitter.com/kevina364/status/1124082477038018561
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Or popcorn....
Lab 1014
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Cleadon Park
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"A Labour local election candidate has apologised for sharing Facebook posts describing links with her party to anti-Semitism as a 'smear campaign'."
I guess time will tell how it goes for Labour there.
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I have family in Swindon, the rest of Wiltshire can be posh and wealthy, I would expect them to be remain. Which means Swindon would be heavily leave.
22 round the table at Xmas. 22 leavers in Swindon.
Edit: minus the kids 15 leavers.
> So far an intriguingly bad night for Labour, an unexpectedly meh night for the Tories, a rather good night for the LDs.... and I can hear Nigel Farage chortling as I type.
Are you SeanT?
> Is that the good ship May I see, sailing serenely on?
The night's still young...
https://twitter.com/JHarrisonLDR/status/1124084825571385350
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Greens almost took West Park
Anne Mellanby Hetherington (Labour) 673
Thomas Alexander Mower (Green) 630
Margaret Mary Robson (Conservative) 358
The Green main target is another one...I guess they will take that easily
Thanks in advance
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I take that as a mild compliment. I lurked for a longtime. He was entertaining - but far too angry and Brexity for me.
(And if we're on choral music while we wait for the results to roll in, Yves Castagnet's Messe Salve Regina is utterly fabulous. Modern - well, early 2000s - but timeless in the way that Duruflé was, and the Notre Dame connection is particularly relevant at present.)
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That is less complimentary. He's an idiot. Sabre rattling the Chinese with our aircraft carrier. Help.
Labour down also in working class area of Newcastle. Previous election was only last year.
To the journalist that broke the story the following day.
If you were PM, would you have confidence in such a minister?
> Winning on 24.9% of the vote. FPTP, you're a star.
Could be worse...
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1124084384326352905
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The problem of sitting on the fence is that you lose votes to both sides.
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124087689198936067?s=21
Expected given how close they were in the other ward earlier
But as I reported earlier, I expect the LibDems to be the obvious winners overall, without a real Tory meltdown.
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Claimed it was about the Euros. Perhaps GCHQ could tell us more.
Also, WTF GREENS GAIN BIRKENHEAD
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I like to quit when I am ahead.
> Unless these results are REALLY untypical of the whole picture, people really are crazy to think Labour should/will become even more anti-Brexit than they already are
Losing lots of votes to the Greens where they are standing.
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> https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1124084384326352905
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Will Bootle fall?
Spennymore is a great ward name
What on earth is up with all those Inds?