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    ralphmalphralphmalph Posts: 2,201
    > @another_richard said:
    > > @ralphmalph said:
    > > > @AndreaParma_82 said:
    > > > Second ward from Sunderland
    > > >
    > > > Washington North
    > > >
    > > > Lab 1007
    > > > UKIP 702
    > > > Con 287
    > > > Green 275
    > > > LD 85
    > >
    > > Can we find the changes in votes from last time anywhere?
    >
    > 2018 results:
    >
    > https://www.andrewteale.me.uk/leap/results/2018/56/

    Thanks.
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Lab vote up north one to watch.....
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    SirBenjaminSirBenjamin Posts: 238
    Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared?
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    Thayer5Thayer5 Posts: 97
    > @Danny565 said:
    > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point). <

    ____


    The Brexit Party are going to win the euros, bigtime.
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,883
    Maybe a surprise good night for UKIP then..
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,967
    UKIP are polling at 2014 levels in Sunderland.
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    nunuonenunuone Posts: 1,138
    > @Danny565 said:
    > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point).

    Yes, a taste of things to come in the Euros.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    > @dixiedean said:
    > > @AndyJS said:
    > > Newsnight — UK to get strong warning from USA next week over Huawei.
    >
    > Oh well. Bang goes our big, beautiful trade deal.
    > Tantalisingly close it was, too.

    LOL
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045
    > @SirBenjamin said:
    > Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared?

    I'm getting 2017 flashbacks of how early results from Sunderland etc meant perhaps the exit polls were wrong.

    I am surprised at the UKIP shares though, given, IIRC, they lost all but one of the seats they contested last year (or even all of them, but gained one)
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited May 2019
    Sunderland - St Ann's

    Billy Scott HOWELLS – Green - 142

    Pam MANN – UKIP - 773

    Emma Jane NEALE – Liberal Democrat - 202

    Alison SMITH – Labour - 732

    Gavin William WILSON – Conservative - 374

    UKIP gain from Lab
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,413
    Danny565 said:

    Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point).

    Early doors, but could indicate any party that is clearly 'out - we want out, now' will do well...
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    Thayer5Thayer5 Posts: 97
    edited May 2019
    > @Artist said:
    > Maybe a surprise good night for UKIP then..<

    ______

    They only have a tiny number of candidates standing. This result should be seen as a pointer for Farage's performance on May 23rd.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,144
    > @Thayer5 said:
    > > @ralphmalph said:
    > > > @AndreaParma_82 said:
    > > > Second ward from Sunderland
    > > >
    > > > Washington North
    > > >
    > > > Lab 1007
    > > > UKIP 702
    > > > Con 287
    > > > Green 275
    > > > LD 85
    > >
    > > Can we find the changes in votes from last time anywhere? <
    >
    > _____
    >
    > https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124075453369733121
    >
    > As I thought, UKIP have surged. Labour in freefall.

    Incontinence pants for Labour Leave-seat MPs.....
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    > @SirBenjamin said:
    > Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared?

    These are wards where the Tories were at their minimum in the first place.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,132
    > @SirBenjamin said:
    > Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared?

    If we get a general anti-establishment vote then it will hit each party hardest in the areas they are strongest.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited May 2019
    Sunderland - St Chad

    Scott Andrew BURROWS – Green - 176

    Alan DAVIES – UKIP - 674

    Gillian Edith GALBRAITH – Labour - 844

    Dominic MCDONOUGH – Conservative - 1200

    Colin Richard NICHOLSON – Liberal Democrat - 122

    Con gains from Lab
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045
    Unexpected scenario - UKIP do surprisingly well tonight, which leads to polling recovery, and they and Brexit Party splitting their vote in the Euros resulting in fewer seats than expected.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,138
    Danny565 said:

    Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point).

    The Farage effect. With the Brexit Party not on the ballot paper, UKIP are probably getting a boost by default.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    > @Thayer5 said:
    > > @Danny565 said:
    > > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point). <
    >
    > ____
    >
    >
    > The Brexit Party are going to win the euros, bigtime.
    >

    Not that things like election results will stop the Ian Dunts and Polly Toynbees of this world insisting that 218% of Labour voters are crying out for a People's Vote.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,823
    edited May 2019
    > @nunuone said:
    > > @Danny565 said:
    > > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point).
    >
    > Yes, a taste of things to come in the Euros.

    I think that quite a few voters probably think Farage equals UKIP, even though the two are daggers drawn. The Brexit vote may well split.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045
    > @AndreaParma_82 said:
    > Sunderland - Chad
    >
    > Scott Andrew BURROWS – Green - 176
    >
    > Alan DAVIES – UKIP - 674
    >
    > Gillian Edith GALBRAITH – Labour - 844
    >
    > Dominic MCDONOUGH – Conservative - 1200
    >
    > Colin Richard NICHOLSON – Liberal Democrat - 122
    >
    > Con gains from Lab

    May out!!

    Although this seems a potential outcome> @another_richard said:
    > > @SirBenjamin said:
    > > Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared?
    >
    > If we get a general anti-establishment vote then it will hit each party hardest in the areas they are strongest.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    > @AndreaParma_82 said:
    > Sunderland - Chad
    >
    > Scott Andrew BURROWS – Green - 176
    >
    > Alan DAVIES – UKIP - 674
    >
    > Gillian Edith GALBRAITH – Labour - 844
    >
    > Dominic MCDONOUGH – Conservative - 1200
    >
    > Colin Richard NICHOLSON – Liberal Democrat - 122
    >
    > Con gains from Lab

    Hang on - aren't the tories supposed to be getting murdered - not Labour?
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    nunuonenunuone Posts: 1,138
    > @AndreaParma_82 said:
    > Sunderland - Chad
    >
    > Scott Andrew BURROWS – Green - 176
    >
    > Alan DAVIES – UKIP - 674
    >
    > Gillian Edith GALBRAITH – Labour - 844
    >
    > Dominic MCDONOUGH – Conservative - 1200
    >
    > Colin Richard NICHOLSON – Liberal Democrat - 122
    >
    > Con gains from Lab

    Wow. Imagine this ends up being a worse night for Labour than Tories
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,787

    Sunderland - Chad



    Scott Andrew BURROWS – Green - 176



    Alan DAVIES – UKIP - 674



    Gillian Edith GALBRAITH – Labour - 844



    Dominic MCDONOUGH – Conservative - 1200



    Colin Richard NICHOLSON – Liberal Democrat - 122



    Con gains from Lab

    That wasn't in the script......
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    notme2notme2 Posts: 1,006
    > @AndreaParma_82 said:
    > Sunderland - Hendon
    >
    > George Edward BROWN – Conservative - 280
    >
    > Kristian BROWN – Independent - 204
    >
    > Thomas CRAWFORD – Liberal Democrat - 134
    >
    > Martin Edward MOORE – UKIP - 581
    >
    > Gary OGLE – Green Party - 189
    >
    > Lynda SCANLAN – Labour - 817
    >
    > Lab hold

    I lived in Hendon once. Was in the city for the 1997 general election, walked into the local con association to see if they needed any help. Clearly far more than I could ever give.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    > @MarqueeMark said:
    > > @Thayer5 said:
    > > > @ralphmalph said:
    > > > > @AndreaParma_82 said:
    > > > > Second ward from Sunderland
    > > > >
    > > > > Washington North
    > > > >
    > > > > Lab 1007
    > > > > UKIP 702
    > > > > Con 287
    > > > > Green 275
    > > > > LD 85
    > > >
    > > > Can we find the changes in votes from last time anywhere? <
    > >
    > > _____
    > >
    > > https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124075453369733121
    > >
    > > As I thought, UKIP have surged. Labour in freefall.
    >
    > Incontinence pants for Labour Leave-seat MPs.....

    About that second referendum......
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Will laugh my tits off if Labour have a bad night.

    They deserve it just as much as May.
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    Thayer5Thayer5 Posts: 97
    @dyedwoolie said:

    > Lol @ labour <

    _____

    These could be the most entertaining Local Election results EVER.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045
    > @TGOHF said:
    > Will laugh my tits off if Labour have a bad night.
    >
    > They deserve it just as much as May.

    Is it even going to be possible for both to have really bad nights?
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,093
    Sunderland - Hendon

    Conservative 280 (421)
    Independent 204 (0)
    Lib Dem 134 (134)
    UKIP 581 (0)
    Green 189 (239)
    Labour 817 (1029)

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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    > @Thayer5 said:
    > > @Danny565 said:
    > > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point). <
    >
    > ____
    >
    >
    > The Brexit Party are going to win the euros, bigtime.
    >

    Lets hope so - will the politicians listen though?
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    4 Labour wins in the first 4 declarations in Basildon
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    > @Foxy said:
    > > @nunuone said:
    > > > @Danny565 said:
    > > > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point).
    > >
    > > Yes, a taste of things to come in the Euros.
    >
    > I think that quite a few voters probably think Farage equals UKIP, even though the two are daggers drawn. The Brexit vote may well split.

    Nah, that's the sort of wishful thinking Remainers will be coming up with over the next few hours. People are voting UKIP this time as the Brexit Party are not on the ballot paper. Come May 23rd they will be though.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,132
    > @AndreaParma_82 said:
    > Sunderland - Chad
    >
    > Scott Andrew BURROWS – Green - 176
    >
    > Alan DAVIES – UKIP - 674
    >
    > Gillian Edith GALBRAITH – Labour - 844
    >
    > Dominic MCDONOUGH – Conservative - 1200
    >
    > Colin Richard NICHOLSON – Liberal Democrat - 122
    >
    > Con gains from Lab

    2018 had:

    Con 1268
    Lab 1203
    LibD 261
    Green 89

    What's interesting is that the LibDems are way down but the Greens are doing much better.

    The LibDems might well suffer from the anti-establishment vote along with the Conservatives and Labour.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,001
    Lol Labour
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    nunuonenunuone Posts: 1,138
    These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    > @_Anazina_ said:
    > Any word when we get the first results?
    >
    >
    >
    > I was thinking about doing another live spreadsheet this year, but there were so many councils up and I didn't have time to do it. Poor predicted performance from the Blues played no part in my decision... :p. Maybe next year.
    >
    > Still cheerleading for the Tories?
    >
    > I think most people gave up the party-partisan arse licking long ago.

    Na, they really haven't :D
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    notme2notme2 Posts: 1,006
    > @Thayer5 said:
    > @viewcode said:
    >
    > > If I understand correctly Tommy Robinson has a history of locating your or your parent's house and turning up at about 3am with some friends to threaten you or them. What form of argument or belittlement would you deploy in such circumstances? <
    >
    > _____
    >
    > I would call the police, and if he is breaking the law, he will be convicted and go to jail - as he has done, several times.

    Last time he was jailed he was unlawfully deprived of his liberty and released...
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,823
    > @nunuone said:
    > These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain
    >

    Really, even in deep purple Lincs?

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124078004903251969?s=19
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,068
    > @Artist said:
    > Maybe a surprise good night for UKIP then..

    Oh yes.

    But (and it's a big but), they're only standing in around 1,000 wards out of the 8,500 being contested.

    So it's hard for them to get a really big vote share. And they're starting at down about 100 seats, given they're not standing in half the seats they won last time.

    It's quite possible they will get 2014/5 levels of support where they stand, but be well down in terms of overall vote share and number of councillors.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045
    I think everyone should hope for the most hilarious set of results from these locals, but I'm not sure what that might be.
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,977
    AndyJS said:

    Newsnight — UK to get strong warning from USA next week over Huawei.

    Any discussion of Huawei must first attempt to answer the most important, most crucial point: how do you pronounce "Huawei"? I've tried "Huw-awawwie", "Howawawaway", "Uuueeee" and "Hua-wey".
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,093
    Newcastle upon Tyne council will be hard to compare as we elected all 3 members of every ward last time.

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    El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,880
    edited May 2019
    On the mooted Lib Dem revival (and the conveniently "leaked" briefing), remember that Vince has a history of over-promising and under-delivering. All those confident asides to the press about "yes, there are going to be 20 defections and we're in talks for an electoral alliance"... that didn't really work out, did it?
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Halton


    Appleton:
    Lab 856
    Con 173

    Broadheath
    Lab 821
    Con 159

    Halton View
    Lab 881
    Con 246

    Norton South
    Lab 694
    Con 113
    LD 107
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,132
    > @Foxy said:
    > > @nunuone said:
    > > > @Danny565 said:
    > > > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point).
    > >
    > > Yes, a taste of things to come in the Euros.
    >
    > I think that quite a few voters probably think Farage equals UKIP, even though the two are daggers drawn. The Brexit vote may well split.

    We could get an outcome where Con, Lab, LibDem and Farage are all unhappy.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Sunderland - Copt Hill

    Reg COULSON – UKIP - 1047

    Esme Rose Stafford FEATHERSTONE – Green - 311

    Pat FRANCIS – Conservative - 386

    Melanie THORNTON – Labour - 1232
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    Foxy said:

    > @nunuone said:

    > These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain

    >



    Really, even in deep purple Lincs?



    You assume the swing to the greens is a Remain vote, there will be plenty of leavers voting anyone but Tory.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045
    > @El_Capitano said:
    > On the mooted Lib Dem revival (and the conveniently "leaked" briefing), remember that Vince has a history of over-promising and under-delivering. All those confident asides to the press about "yes, there are going to be 20 defections and we're in talks for an electoral alliance"... that didn't really work out, did it?

    Circumstance may do for him what he could not.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,132
    > @TGOHF said:
    > https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124078004903251969

    Backs up my idea that its going to be an anti-establishment vote.

    Nick Palmer will be elected.
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    nunuonenunuone Posts: 1,138
    > @Foxy said:
    > > @nunuone said:
    > > These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain
    > >
    >
    > Really, even in deep purple Lincs?
    >
    > https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124078004903251969?s=19

    There's no ukip or brexit party standing.

    If Brexit Party get more than say 35% in the Euros, that should be a warning shot to the main parties.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,068
    > @nunuone said:
    > These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain
    >

    In what way is Mrs May's Deal Remain?

    (1) Does FoM continue?

    Nope

    (2) Does the UK remain a part of the CFP or CAP?

    Nope

    (3) Does the UK continue to make payments to Brussels after the transition period?

    Nope

    (4) Does the ECJ have supremacy over UK law?

    Nope

    So. Mrs May's Deal is Remain in that... in that... <b>it's a deal with Brussels, so it has to be a disaster</b>
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045
    Thayer5 said:
    Reliant on him pivoting to a soft Brexit position. He came around to Mays' deal, but that seems too much given all that achieves is he still cannot get a deal through.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,132
    > @kle4 said:
    > > @TGOHF said:
    > > Will laugh my tits off if Labour have a bad night.
    > >
    > > They deserve it just as much as May.
    >
    > Is it even going to be possible for both to have really bad nights?

    On vote share it is.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,787
    I love the smell of fear in the early hours.....

    https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1124079140754395144
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,068
    > @brokenwheel said:
    > > @nunuone said:
    >
    > > These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain
    >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    > Really, even in deep purple Lincs?
    >
    >
    >
    > https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124078004903251969
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    >
    >
    > You assume the swing to the greens is a Remain vote, there will be plenty of leavers voting anyone but Tory.

    I think it's more a "plague on all your houses".
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,445

    Sunderland - St Ann's



    Billy Scott HOWELLS – Green - 142



    Pam MANN – UKIP - 773



    Emma Jane NEALE – Liberal Democrat - 202



    Alison SMITH – Labour - 732



    Gavin William WILSON – Conservative - 374



    UKIP gain from Lab

    :open_mouth:
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045
    rcs1000 said:




    So. Mrs May's Deal is Remain in that... in that... it's a deal with Brussels, so it has to be a disaster

    Don't worry, very very few people think that. Not even Boris and JRM think the deal is Remain.
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    Thayer5Thayer5 Posts: 97
    @viewcode said:

    > Any discussion of Huawei must first attempt to answer the most important, most crucial point: how do you pronounce "Huawei"? I've tried "Huw-awawwie", "Howawawaway", "Uuueeee" and "Hua-wey". <

    ____

    Haddaway and shite?
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045


    Nick Palmer will be elected.

    At least one good result then.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    UKIP have apparently gained a seat in Sunderland.

    Sky News's prediction of a total UKIP wipe-out, which they made a few minutes ago, hits the buffers rather quickly. :)
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,787
    Here's an excuse I prepared earlier....

    23.30 It’s not so great news for Labour in Sunderland – but don’t worry, that is expected. Local election results there aren’t usually indicative of parliamentary elections, with Tories and Lib Dems picking up seats in safe Labour wards. The Labour-run council has many issues and scandals. Don’t take this one as reflective of the national picture.

    https://labourlist.org/2019/05/local-elections-2019-liveblog-close-of-polls/
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,144
    > @AndreaParma_82 said:
    > 4 Labour wins in the first 4 declarations in Basildon

    Wins - but gains?
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045
    edited May 2019

    I love the smell of fear in the early hours.....

    https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1124079140754395144

    Maybe, but Sunderland results really are not always a great predictor, so excuse or not it might be right.

    UKIP, either for themselves or because BP are not there, surprising given their showing last year though.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,911
    This could be UKIPs last stand! :open_mouth:
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,977
    Thayer5 said:

    @viewcode said:



    > Any discussion of Huawei must first attempt to answer the most important, most crucial point: how do you pronounce "Huawei"? I've tried "Huw-awawwie", "Howawawaway", "Uuueeee" and "Hua-wey". <



    ____



    Haddaway and shite?

    I have tried "Howay". Unfortunately I was down south and I got blank looks... :(
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    More Lab holds in Halton

    Farnworth
    LAB: 981
    CON: 459
    UKIP: 308

    Halton Castle
    LAB: 712
    Independent: 321
    CON: 113
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,413
    Re: Boris.

    After tonight's results, i expect the clamour to be overwhelming.

    But guess the men in suits will do May the courtesy of waiting until 24th May.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,144
    > @kle4 said:
    > I love the smell of fear in the early hours.....
    >
    > https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1124079140754395144
    >
    >
    >
    > Maybe, but Sunderland results really are not always a great predictor, so excuse or not it might be right.
    >
    > UKIP, either for themselves or because BP are not there, surprising given their showing last year though.

    Remember: Sunderland was a great predictor for the Brexit referendum......
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045
    edited May 2019
    nunuone said:




    If Brexit Party get more than say 35% in the Euros, that should be a warning shot to the main parties.

    Yes, but how would they react to that warning shot? The Tories will seek to become the Brexit Party, supposedly hundreds of their MPs already want to be no dealers now the deal is dead anyway so it is clearly what they want, but how do Labour react.

    Without being mean I kind of hope CUK outdo the LDs, purely on the basis that they have hardly been impressive and to still beat the LDs even so would be pretty funny. It would also surely lead to some searching questions for the LDs about what they must do.

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    kjohnwkjohnw Posts: 1,456
    > @GIN1138 said:
    > This could be UKIPs last stand! :open_mouth:

    The Brexit party could be a huge wake up call for the two parties in the EU elections, they could wipe the floor, I would laugh my arse off if they polled higher than the remain petition and the media try to play it down
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    1 is a gain from Con

    > @MarqueeMark said:
    > > @AndreaParma_82 said:
    > > 4 Labour wins in the first 4 declarations in Basildon
    >
    > Wins - but gains?
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,445
    BBC just said Lab lost a seat to Con?
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045

    > @kle4 said:

    > I love the smell of fear in the early hours.....

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    > Maybe, but Sunderland results really are not always a great predictor, so excuse or not it might be right.

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    > UKIP, either for themselves or because BP are not there, surprising given their showing last year though.



    Remember: Sunderland was a great predictor for the Brexit referendum......
    True enough, I guess we need to see some results in the Tory shires to see if Sunderland is reflective of things yet.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,787
    While I suspect there will be 'a plague on both your houses' for Con & Lab tonight:

    https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/1124080426333745153
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Washington Central:

    Michal CHANTKOWSKI – Green - 259

    Len LAUCHLAN – Labour - 1156

    Erland POLDEN – UKIP - 711

    Anna SNELL – Conservative - 509

    Maciej Aleksander ZAGDAN Liberal Democrat - 164





    Washington East:

    Michael Anthony ELLIS – Green - 366

    Hilary JOHNSON – Conservative - 731

    Fiona Margaret Ann Mackenzie MILLER – Labour - 1142

    Sean TERRY – Liberal Democrat - 213

    Hazel Katherine – WHITFIELD UKIP - 589
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,413
    Lot of + % results for Greens so far.
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,093
    Labour down in every Sunderland ward.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    > @Gallowgate said:
    > Labour down in every Sunderland ward.

    The comparisons are with general election day in 2015, when turnout would have been much higher, and a high turnout is always good for Labour in an area like Sunderland. Probably explains the bad Labour performance tonight.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,445
    viewcode said:

    Thayer5 said:

    @viewcode said:



    > Any discussion of Huawei must first attempt to answer the most important, most crucial point: how do you pronounce "Huawei"? I've tried "Huw-awawwie", "Howawawaway", "Uuueeee" and "Hua-wey". <



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    Haddaway and shite?

    I have tried "Howay". Unfortunately I was down south and I got blank looks... :(
    Hwa-way
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,787
    viewcode said:

    Thayer5 said:

    @viewcode said:



    > Any discussion of Huawei must first attempt to answer the most important, most crucial point: how do you pronounce "Huawei"? I've tried "Huw-awawwie", "Howawawaway", "Uuueeee" and "Hua-wey". <



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    Haddaway and shite?

    I have tried "Howay". Unfortunately I was down south and I got blank looks... :(
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGAqvpYLiGw
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    What's the "scandal" for Labour in Sunderland?
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Doxford - Labour doxed ford- amarite?
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    nunuonenunuone Posts: 1,138
    Labour are lucky their majorities are so big in some of these Sunderland wards....
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,045

    While I suspect there will be 'a plague on both your houses' for Con & Lab tonight:

    https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/1124080426333745153

    Hadn't seen the Swindon result. Given the nature of the 2 parliament seats could be a very interesting set of results.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    > @KentRising said:
    > What's the "scandal" for Labour in Sunderland?

    The fact that the comparisons are with general election day in 2015 when a high turnout would have helped Labour a lot compared to tonight. The BBC aren't doing a very good job of explaining that.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,823
    > @Gallowgate said:
    > https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124081823779364865

    Quite an anti Labour vote. Can't think why...
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    > @Sunil_Prasannan said:
    > BBC just said Lab lost a seat to Con?

    In Sunderland.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Sunderland - Doxford:

    Richard Peter BRADLEY – Green - 150

    John DEFTY – UKIP - 518

    Colin ENGLISH – Labour - 730

    Heather FAGAN – Liberal Democrat - 1337

    John Scott WIPER – Conservative - 394

    LD gain from Lab
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Thayer5 said:
    According to Stephen Bush, Labour are expected to do worse in Sunderland because there is a lot of issues with the council there.
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