> @dixiedean said: > > @AndyJS said: > > Newsnight — UK to get strong warning from USA next week over Huawei. > > Oh well. Bang goes our big, beautiful trade deal. > Tantalisingly close it was, too.
> @SirBenjamin said: > Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared?
I'm getting 2017 flashbacks of how early results from Sunderland etc meant perhaps the exit polls were wrong.
I am surprised at the UKIP shares though, given, IIRC, they lost all but one of the seats they contested last year (or even all of them, but gained one)
> @Thayer5 said: > > @ralphmalph said: > > > @AndreaParma_82 said: > > > Second ward from Sunderland > > > > > > Washington North > > > > > > Lab 1007 > > > UKIP 702 > > > Con 287 > > > Green 275 > > > LD 85 > > > > Can we find the changes in votes from last time anywhere? < > > _____ > > https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124075453369733121 > > As I thought, UKIP have surged. Labour in freefall.
> @SirBenjamin said: > Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared?
These are wards where the Tories were at their minimum in the first place.
> @SirBenjamin said: > Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared?
If we get a general anti-establishment vote then it will hit each party hardest in the areas they are strongest.
Unexpected scenario - UKIP do surprisingly well tonight, which leads to polling recovery, and they and Brexit Party splitting their vote in the Euros resulting in fewer seats than expected.
> @Thayer5 said: > > @Danny565 said: > > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point). < > > ____ > > > The Brexit Party are going to win the euros, bigtime. >
Not that things like election results will stop the Ian Dunts and Polly Toynbees of this world insisting that 218% of Labour voters are crying out for a People's Vote.
> @nunuone said: > > @Danny565 said: > > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point). > > Yes, a taste of things to come in the Euros.
I think that quite a few voters probably think Farage equals UKIP, even though the two are daggers drawn. The Brexit vote may well split.
> @AndreaParma_82 said: > Sunderland - Chad > > Scott Andrew BURROWS – Green - 176 > > Alan DAVIES – UKIP - 674 > > Gillian Edith GALBRAITH – Labour - 844 > > Dominic MCDONOUGH – Conservative - 1200 > > Colin Richard NICHOLSON – Liberal Democrat - 122 > > Con gains from Lab
May out!!
Although this seems a potential outcome> @another_richard said: > > @SirBenjamin said: > > Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared? > > If we get a general anti-establishment vote then it will hit each party hardest in the areas they are strongest.
> @AndreaParma_82 said: > Sunderland - Hendon > > George Edward BROWN – Conservative - 280 > > Kristian BROWN – Independent - 204 > > Thomas CRAWFORD – Liberal Democrat - 134 > > Martin Edward MOORE – UKIP - 581 > > Gary OGLE – Green Party - 189 > > Lynda SCANLAN – Labour - 817 > > Lab hold
I lived in Hendon once. Was in the city for the 1997 general election, walked into the local con association to see if they needed any help. Clearly far more than I could ever give.
> @Thayer5 said: > > @Danny565 said: > > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point). < > > ____ > > > The Brexit Party are going to win the euros, bigtime. >
Lets hope so - will the politicians listen though?
> @Foxy said: > > @nunuone said: > > > @Danny565 said: > > > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point). > > > > Yes, a taste of things to come in the Euros. > > I think that quite a few voters probably think Farage equals UKIP, even though the two are daggers drawn. The Brexit vote may well split.
Nah, that's the sort of wishful thinking Remainers will be coming up with over the next few hours. People are voting UKIP this time as the Brexit Party are not on the ballot paper. Come May 23rd they will be though.
These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain
> @_Anazina_ said: > Any word when we get the first results? > > > > I was thinking about doing another live spreadsheet this year, but there were so many councils up and I didn't have time to do it. Poor predicted performance from the Blues played no part in my decision... . Maybe next year. > > Still cheerleading for the Tories? > > I think most people gave up the party-partisan arse licking long ago.
> @Thayer5 said: > @viewcode said: > > > If I understand correctly Tommy Robinson has a history of locating your or your parent's house and turning up at about 3am with some friends to threaten you or them. What form of argument or belittlement would you deploy in such circumstances? < > > _____ > > I would call the police, and if he is breaking the law, he will be convicted and go to jail - as he has done, several times.
Last time he was jailed he was unlawfully deprived of his liberty and released...
> @nunuone said: > These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain >
> @Artist said: > Maybe a surprise good night for UKIP then..
Oh yes.
But (and it's a big but), they're only standing in around 1,000 wards out of the 8,500 being contested.
So it's hard for them to get a really big vote share. And they're starting at down about 100 seats, given they're not standing in half the seats they won last time.
It's quite possible they will get 2014/5 levels of support where they stand, but be well down in terms of overall vote share and number of councillors.
Newsnight — UK to get strong warning from USA next week over Huawei.
Any discussion of Huawei must first attempt to answer the most important, most crucial point: how do you pronounce "Huawei"? I've tried "Huw-awawwie", "Howawawaway", "Uuueeee" and "Hua-wey".
On the mooted Lib Dem revival (and the conveniently "leaked" briefing), remember that Vince has a history of over-promising and under-delivering. All those confident asides to the press about "yes, there are going to be 20 defections and we're in talks for an electoral alliance"... that didn't really work out, did it?
> @Foxy said: > > @nunuone said: > > > @Danny565 said: > > > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point). > > > > Yes, a taste of things to come in the Euros. > > I think that quite a few voters probably think Farage equals UKIP, even though the two are daggers drawn. The Brexit vote may well split.
We could get an outcome where Con, Lab, LibDem and Farage are all unhappy.
> These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain
> @El_Capitano said: > On the mooted Lib Dem revival (and the conveniently "leaked" briefing), remember that Vince has a history of over-promising and under-delivering. All those confident asides to the press about "yes, there are going to be 20 defections and we're in talks for an electoral alliance"... that didn't really work out, did it?
> @Foxy said: > > @nunuone said: > > These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain > > > > Really, even in deep purple Lincs? > > https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124078004903251969?s=19
There's no ukip or brexit party standing.
If Brexit Party get more than say 35% in the Euros, that should be a warning shot to the main parties.
> @nunuone said: > These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain >
In what way is Mrs May's Deal Remain?
(1) Does FoM continue?
Nope
(2) Does the UK remain a part of the CFP or CAP?
Nope
(3) Does the UK continue to make payments to Brussels after the transition period?
Nope
(4) Does the ECJ have supremacy over UK law?
Nope
So. Mrs May's Deal is Remain in that... in that... <b>it's a deal with Brussels, so it has to be a disaster</b>
Reliant on him pivoting to a soft Brexit position. He came around to Mays' deal, but that seems too much given all that achieves is he still cannot get a deal through.
> @kle4 said: > > @TGOHF said: > > Will laugh my tits off if Labour have a bad night. > > > > They deserve it just as much as May. > > Is it even going to be possible for both to have really bad nights?
> @brokenwheel said: > > @nunuone said: > > > These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain > > > > > > > Really, even in deep purple Lincs? > > > > https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124078004903251969 > > > > You assume the swing to the greens is a Remain vote, there will be plenty of leavers voting anyone but Tory.
> Any discussion of Huawei must first attempt to answer the most important, most crucial point: how do you pronounce "Huawei"? I've tried "Huw-awawwie", "Howawawaway", "Uuueeee" and "Hua-wey". <
23.30 It’s not so great news for Labour in Sunderland – but don’t worry, that is expected. Local election results there aren’t usually indicative of parliamentary elections, with Tories and Lib Dems picking up seats in safe Labour wards. The Labour-run council has many issues and scandals. Don’t take this one as reflective of the national picture.
> Any discussion of Huawei must first attempt to answer the most important, most crucial point: how do you pronounce "Huawei"? I've tried "Huw-awawwie", "Howawawaway", "Uuueeee" and "Hua-wey". <
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Haddaway and shite?
I have tried "Howay". Unfortunately I was down south and I got blank looks...
> @kle4 said: > I love the smell of fear in the early hours..... > > https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1124079140754395144 > > > > Maybe, but Sunderland results really are not always a great predictor, so excuse or not it might be right. > > UKIP, either for themselves or because BP are not there, surprising given their showing last year though.
Remember: Sunderland was a great predictor for the Brexit referendum......
If Brexit Party get more than say 35% in the Euros, that should be a warning shot to the main parties.
Yes, but how would they react to that warning shot? The Tories will seek to become the Brexit Party, supposedly hundreds of their MPs already want to be no dealers now the deal is dead anyway so it is clearly what they want, but how do Labour react.
Without being mean I kind of hope CUK outdo the LDs, purely on the basis that they have hardly been impressive and to still beat the LDs even so would be pretty funny. It would also surely lead to some searching questions for the LDs about what they must do.
> @GIN1138 said: > This could be UKIPs last stand!
The Brexit party could be a huge wake up call for the two parties in the EU elections, they could wipe the floor, I would laugh my arse off if they polled higher than the remain petition and the media try to play it down
> @Gallowgate said: > Labour down in every Sunderland ward.
The comparisons are with general election day in 2015, when turnout would have been much higher, and a high turnout is always good for Labour in an area like Sunderland. Probably explains the bad Labour performance tonight.
> Any discussion of Huawei must first attempt to answer the most important, most crucial point: how do you pronounce "Huawei"? I've tried "Huw-awawwie", "Howawawaway", "Uuueeee" and "Hua-wey". <
____
Haddaway and shite?
I have tried "Howay". Unfortunately I was down south and I got blank looks...
> Any discussion of Huawei must first attempt to answer the most important, most crucial point: how do you pronounce "Huawei"? I've tried "Huw-awawwie", "Howawawaway", "Uuueeee" and "Hua-wey". <
____
Haddaway and shite?
I have tried "Howay". Unfortunately I was down south and I got blank looks...
> @KentRising said: > What's the "scandal" for Labour in Sunderland?
The fact that the comparisons are with general election day in 2015 when a high turnout would have helped Labour a lot compared to tonight. The BBC aren't doing a very good job of explaining that.
Comments
> > @ralphmalph said:
> > > @AndreaParma_82 said:
> > > Second ward from Sunderland
> > >
> > > Washington North
> > >
> > > Lab 1007
> > > UKIP 702
> > > Con 287
> > > Green 275
> > > LD 85
> >
> > Can we find the changes in votes from last time anywhere?
>
> 2018 results:
>
> https://www.andrewteale.me.uk/leap/results/2018/56/
Thanks.
> Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point). <
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The Brexit Party are going to win the euros, bigtime.
> Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point).
Yes, a taste of things to come in the Euros.
> > @AndyJS said:
> > Newsnight — UK to get strong warning from USA next week over Huawei.
>
> Oh well. Bang goes our big, beautiful trade deal.
> Tantalisingly close it was, too.
LOL
> Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared?
I'm getting 2017 flashbacks of how early results from Sunderland etc meant perhaps the exit polls were wrong.
I am surprised at the UKIP shares though, given, IIRC, they lost all but one of the seats they contested last year (or even all of them, but gained one)
Billy Scott HOWELLS – Green - 142
Pam MANN – UKIP - 773
Emma Jane NEALE – Liberal Democrat - 202
Alison SMITH – Labour - 732
Gavin William WILSON – Conservative - 374
UKIP gain from Lab
> Maybe a surprise good night for UKIP then..<
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They only have a tiny number of candidates standing. This result should be seen as a pointer for Farage's performance on May 23rd.
> > @ralphmalph said:
> > > @AndreaParma_82 said:
> > > Second ward from Sunderland
> > >
> > > Washington North
> > >
> > > Lab 1007
> > > UKIP 702
> > > Con 287
> > > Green 275
> > > LD 85
> >
> > Can we find the changes in votes from last time anywhere? <
>
> _____
>
> https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124075453369733121
>
> As I thought, UKIP have surged. Labour in freefall.
Incontinence pants for Labour Leave-seat MPs.....
> Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared?
These are wards where the Tories were at their minimum in the first place.
> Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared?
If we get a general anti-establishment vote then it will hit each party hardest in the areas they are strongest.
Scott Andrew BURROWS – Green - 176
Alan DAVIES – UKIP - 674
Gillian Edith GALBRAITH – Labour - 844
Dominic MCDONOUGH – Conservative - 1200
Colin Richard NICHOLSON – Liberal Democrat - 122
Con gains from Lab
> > @Danny565 said:
> > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point). <
>
> ____
>
>
> The Brexit Party are going to win the euros, bigtime.
>
Not that things like election results will stop the Ian Dunts and Polly Toynbees of this world insisting that 218% of Labour voters are crying out for a People's Vote.
> > @Danny565 said:
> > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point).
>
> Yes, a taste of things to come in the Euros.
I think that quite a few voters probably think Farage equals UKIP, even though the two are daggers drawn. The Brexit vote may well split.
Lol @ labour
> Sunderland - Chad
>
> Scott Andrew BURROWS – Green - 176
>
> Alan DAVIES – UKIP - 674
>
> Gillian Edith GALBRAITH – Labour - 844
>
> Dominic MCDONOUGH – Conservative - 1200
>
> Colin Richard NICHOLSON – Liberal Democrat - 122
>
> Con gains from Lab
May out!!
Although this seems a potential outcome> @another_richard said:
> > @SirBenjamin said:
> > Is it me, or are these very early results absolutely nowhere near as dire for the Tories as pretty much everyone expected/feared?
>
> If we get a general anti-establishment vote then it will hit each party hardest in the areas they are strongest.
> Sunderland - Chad
>
> Scott Andrew BURROWS – Green - 176
>
> Alan DAVIES – UKIP - 674
>
> Gillian Edith GALBRAITH – Labour - 844
>
> Dominic MCDONOUGH – Conservative - 1200
>
> Colin Richard NICHOLSON – Liberal Democrat - 122
>
> Con gains from Lab
Hang on - aren't the tories supposed to be getting murdered - not Labour?
> Sunderland - Chad
>
> Scott Andrew BURROWS – Green - 176
>
> Alan DAVIES – UKIP - 674
>
> Gillian Edith GALBRAITH – Labour - 844
>
> Dominic MCDONOUGH – Conservative - 1200
>
> Colin Richard NICHOLSON – Liberal Democrat - 122
>
> Con gains from Lab
Wow. Imagine this ends up being a worse night for Labour than Tories
> Sunderland - Hendon
>
> George Edward BROWN – Conservative - 280
>
> Kristian BROWN – Independent - 204
>
> Thomas CRAWFORD – Liberal Democrat - 134
>
> Martin Edward MOORE – UKIP - 581
>
> Gary OGLE – Green Party - 189
>
> Lynda SCANLAN – Labour - 817
>
> Lab hold
I lived in Hendon once. Was in the city for the 1997 general election, walked into the local con association to see if they needed any help. Clearly far more than I could ever give.
> > @Thayer5 said:
> > > @ralphmalph said:
> > > > @AndreaParma_82 said:
> > > > Second ward from Sunderland
> > > >
> > > > Washington North
> > > >
> > > > Lab 1007
> > > > UKIP 702
> > > > Con 287
> > > > Green 275
> > > > LD 85
> > >
> > > Can we find the changes in votes from last time anywhere? <
> >
> > _____
> >
> > https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124075453369733121
> >
> > As I thought, UKIP have surged. Labour in freefall.
>
> Incontinence pants for Labour Leave-seat MPs.....
About that second referendum......
They deserve it just as much as May.
> Lol @ labour <
_____
These could be the most entertaining Local Election results EVER.
> Will laugh my tits off if Labour have a bad night.
>
> They deserve it just as much as May.
Is it even going to be possible for both to have really bad nights?
Conservative 280 (421)
Independent 204 (0)
Lib Dem 134 (134)
UKIP 581 (0)
Green 189 (239)
Labour 817 (1029)
> > @Danny565 said:
> > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point). <
>
> ____
>
>
> The Brexit Party are going to win the euros, bigtime.
>
Lets hope so - will the politicians listen though?
> > @nunuone said:
> > > @Danny565 said:
> > > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point).
> >
> > Yes, a taste of things to come in the Euros.
>
> I think that quite a few voters probably think Farage equals UKIP, even though the two are daggers drawn. The Brexit vote may well split.
Nah, that's the sort of wishful thinking Remainers will be coming up with over the next few hours. People are voting UKIP this time as the Brexit Party are not on the ballot paper. Come May 23rd they will be though.
> Sunderland - Chad
>
> Scott Andrew BURROWS – Green - 176
>
> Alan DAVIES – UKIP - 674
>
> Gillian Edith GALBRAITH – Labour - 844
>
> Dominic MCDONOUGH – Conservative - 1200
>
> Colin Richard NICHOLSON – Liberal Democrat - 122
>
> Con gains from Lab
2018 had:
Con 1268
Lab 1203
LibD 261
Green 89
What's interesting is that the LibDems are way down but the Greens are doing much better.
The LibDems might well suffer from the anti-establishment vote along with the Conservatives and Labour.
> Any word when we get the first results?
>
>
>
> I was thinking about doing another live spreadsheet this year, but there were so many councils up and I didn't have time to do it. Poor predicted performance from the Blues played no part in my decision... . Maybe next year.
>
> Still cheerleading for the Tories?
>
> I think most people gave up the party-partisan arse licking long ago.
Na, they really haven't
> @viewcode said:
>
> > If I understand correctly Tommy Robinson has a history of locating your or your parent's house and turning up at about 3am with some friends to threaten you or them. What form of argument or belittlement would you deploy in such circumstances? <
>
> _____
>
> I would call the police, and if he is breaking the law, he will be convicted and go to jail - as he has done, several times.
Last time he was jailed he was unlawfully deprived of his liberty and released...
> These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain
>
Really, even in deep purple Lincs?
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124078004903251969?s=19
> Maybe a surprise good night for UKIP then..
Oh yes.
But (and it's a big but), they're only standing in around 1,000 wards out of the 8,500 being contested.
So it's hard for them to get a really big vote share. And they're starting at down about 100 seats, given they're not standing in half the seats they won last time.
It's quite possible they will get 2014/5 levels of support where they stand, but be well down in terms of overall vote share and number of councillors.
Appleton:
Lab 856
Con 173
Broadheath
Lab 821
Con 159
Halton View
Lab 881
Con 246
Norton South
Lab 694
Con 113
LD 107
https://twitter.com/GeorgeTrefgarne/status/1124030277590953984
> > @nunuone said:
> > > @Danny565 said:
> > > Yikes, these are good UKIP results. Big gains even on 2015 (when they were at a sorta high point).
> >
> > Yes, a taste of things to come in the Euros.
>
> I think that quite a few voters probably think Farage equals UKIP, even though the two are daggers drawn. The Brexit vote may well split.
We could get an outcome where Con, Lab, LibDem and Farage are all unhappy.
Reg COULSON – UKIP - 1047
Esme Rose Stafford FEATHERSTONE – Green - 311
Pat FRANCIS – Conservative - 386
Melanie THORNTON – Labour - 1232
> On the mooted Lib Dem revival (and the conveniently "leaked" briefing), remember that Vince has a history of over-promising and under-delivering. All those confident asides to the press about "yes, there are going to be 20 defections and we're in talks for an electoral alliance"... that didn't really work out, did it?
Circumstance may do for him what he could not.
> https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124078004903251969
Backs up my idea that its going to be an anti-establishment vote.
Nick Palmer will be elected.
> > @nunuone said:
> > These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain
> >
>
> Really, even in deep purple Lincs?
>
> https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124078004903251969?s=19
There's no ukip or brexit party standing.
If Brexit Party get more than say 35% in the Euros, that should be a warning shot to the main parties.
> These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain
>
In what way is Mrs May's Deal Remain?
(1) Does FoM continue?
Nope
(2) Does the UK remain a part of the CFP or CAP?
Nope
(3) Does the UK continue to make payments to Brussels after the transition period?
Nope
(4) Does the ECJ have supremacy over UK law?
Nope
So. Mrs May's Deal is Remain in that... in that... <b>it's a deal with Brussels, so it has to be a disaster</b>
> > @TGOHF said:
> > Will laugh my tits off if Labour have a bad night.
> >
> > They deserve it just as much as May.
>
> Is it even going to be possible for both to have really bad nights?
On vote share it is.
https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1124079140754395144
> > @nunuone said:
>
> > These results make me feel Leave would win a second ref.......as long as they don't try to rig it by asking either May's deal or Remain which are both basically Remain
>
> >
>
>
>
> Really, even in deep purple Lincs?
>
>
>
> https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124078004903251969
>
>
>
> You assume the swing to the greens is a Remain vote, there will be plenty of leavers voting anyone but Tory.
I think it's more a "plague on all your houses".
> Any discussion of Huawei must first attempt to answer the most important, most crucial point: how do you pronounce "Huawei"? I've tried "Huw-awawwie", "Howawawaway", "Uuueeee" and "Hua-wey". <
____
Haddaway and shite?
Sky News's prediction of a total UKIP wipe-out, which they made a few minutes ago, hits the buffers rather quickly.
23.30 It’s not so great news for Labour in Sunderland – but don’t worry, that is expected. Local election results there aren’t usually indicative of parliamentary elections, with Tories and Lib Dems picking up seats in safe Labour wards. The Labour-run council has many issues and scandals. Don’t take this one as reflective of the national picture.
https://labourlist.org/2019/05/local-elections-2019-liveblog-close-of-polls/
> 4 Labour wins in the first 4 declarations in Basildon
Wins - but gains?
UKIP, either for themselves or because BP are not there, surprising given their showing last year though.
Farnworth
LAB: 981
CON: 459
UKIP: 308
Halton Castle
LAB: 712
Independent: 321
CON: 113
After tonight's results, i expect the clamour to be overwhelming.
But guess the men in suits will do May the courtesy of waiting until 24th May.
> I love the smell of fear in the early hours.....
>
> https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1124079140754395144
>
>
>
> Maybe, but Sunderland results really are not always a great predictor, so excuse or not it might be right.
>
> UKIP, either for themselves or because BP are not there, surprising given their showing last year though.
Remember: Sunderland was a great predictor for the Brexit referendum......
Without being mean I kind of hope CUK outdo the LDs, purely on the basis that they have hardly been impressive and to still beat the LDs even so would be pretty funny. It would also surely lead to some searching questions for the LDs about what they must do.
> This could be UKIPs last stand!
The Brexit party could be a huge wake up call for the two parties in the EU elections, they could wipe the floor, I would laugh my arse off if they polled higher than the remain petition and the media try to play it down
> @MarqueeMark said:
> > @AndreaParma_82 said:
> > 4 Labour wins in the first 4 declarations in Basildon
>
> Wins - but gains?
https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/1124080426333745153
Michal CHANTKOWSKI – Green - 259
Len LAUCHLAN – Labour - 1156
Erland POLDEN – UKIP - 711
Anna SNELL – Conservative - 509
Maciej Aleksander ZAGDAN Liberal Democrat - 164
Washington East:
Michael Anthony ELLIS – Green - 366
Hilary JOHNSON – Conservative - 731
Fiona Margaret Ann Mackenzie MILLER – Labour - 1142
Sean TERRY – Liberal Democrat - 213
Hazel Katherine – WHITFIELD UKIP - 589
> Labour down in every Sunderland ward.
The comparisons are with general election day in 2015, when turnout would have been much higher, and a high turnout is always good for Labour in an area like Sunderland. Probably explains the bad Labour performance tonight.
> https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124081823779364865<
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WhoAH
> What's the "scandal" for Labour in Sunderland?
The fact that the comparisons are with general election day in 2015 when a high turnout would have helped Labour a lot compared to tonight. The BBC aren't doing a very good job of explaining that.
> https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1124081823779364865
Quite an anti Labour vote. Can't think why...
> BBC just said Lab lost a seat to Con?
In Sunderland.
Richard Peter BRADLEY – Green - 150
John DEFTY – UKIP - 518
Colin ENGLISH – Labour - 730
Heather FAGAN – Liberal Democrat - 1337
John Scott WIPER – Conservative - 394
LD gain from Lab