Hilariously, I am being investigated by the Labour party for an article and a post I made here on Political Betting. I could end up being expelled from a party of which I am no longer a member. maybe they think I'm Jewish!!
That's just hilarious. I wonder which one of us reported you, though (I sadly doubt it was a lurker)...
I doubt it was anyone active here. I remember that article and from memory it was written a long time ago. Therefore it is likely a trawler has come across it not someone active.
What makes me suspicious is not just the article, but the linking to twitter as well.
why would a casual browser care enough to report it?
Hope I'm wrong, though.
The linking to Twitter would have been the footer of the article. And its entirely possible someone Southam has gotten into an argument on Twitter with has googled him and found that Article.
People scour others twitter records looking for the slightest off comment for the last 20 years. It's a thing now.
Wait until we see the next generation of politicians, who will have been on Twitter and Facebook since they were teenagers, most likely posting all sorts of things.
Expect to see a rise in people changing their identity when they leave university, if they ever fancy running for public office.
Mike, what's your take on the Welsh Devolution Referendum of 1997, when Yes won by only 0.6%?
It’s not the referendum but what happened after the referendum. Brexit’s like prohibition - hugely popular idea until its difficulties become evident. The Welsh Assembly was a reasonably well thought out proposal decently implemented. Brexit isn’t as we see today. Anyway, it’s not as if the Conservatives were not ruling out a second referendum on the issue ( https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-now-lying-welsh-assembly-15673406 ) and there is a party in Wales devoted to the Assembly’s abolition that isn’t exactly setting the polls on fire.
Outside chance 'Abolish the Welsh Assembly' will come third tomorrow in the Newport West by election given Newport voted against a Welsh Assembly in the 1997 referendum
Hilariously, I am being investigated by the Labour party for an article and a post I made here on Political Betting. I could end up being expelled from a party of which I am no longer a member. maybe they think I'm Jewish!!
That's just hilarious. I wonder which one of us reported you, though (I sadly doubt it was a lurker)...
I doubt it was anyone active here. I remember that article and from memory it was written a long time ago. Therefore it is likely a trawler has come across it not someone active.
What makes me suspicious is not just the article, but the linking to twitter as well.
why would a casual browser care enough to report it?
Hope I'm wrong, though.
The linking to Twitter would have been the footer of the article. And its entirely possible someone Southam has gotten into an argument on Twitter with has googled him and found that Article.
People scour others twitter records looking for the slightest off comment for the last 20 years. It's a thing now.
Wait until we see the next generation of politicians, who will have been on Twitter and Facebook since they were teenagers, most likely posting all sorts of things.
Expect to see a rise in people changing their identity when they leave university, if they ever fancy running for public office.
The skill politicians need now is the ability to deflect this kind of attack against the people making it.
Hasn't everyone being saying the same thing for the last 2 years? Looking at PMQ's today, it's not at all obvious that she is 'done for.'
She may have peed off the ERG, but what can they do about it? As things stand, nothing. Remember too that when they had the rules on their side they still managed to bungle the whole thing.
The ERG are surely behind the latest infantile and laughable strop at their front bench.... who do we reckon? Jenkyns, Private Francois or Bridgen maybe?
Did Corbyn just say : "A whole generation of waspy women" ?
WASPI women. He bangs on about them quite a lot.
The women who knew the rules, could hardly have missed that they changed and are now whining about equality when it’s not in their favour. Me Meeks will be able to explain further (whether or not he agrees with my cynicism).
Did Corbyn just say : "A whole generation of waspy women" ?
WASPI women. He bangs on about them quite a lot.
The women who knew the rules, could hardly have missed that they changed and are now whining about equality when it’s not in their favour. Me Meeks will be able to explain further (whether or not he agrees with my cynicism).
Spot on. The Lib Dems are full of them. Capable of find any perceived anti-feminist slant at 500 miles but apparently incapable of reading government letters and press releases
Hasn't everyone being saying the same thing for the last 2 years? Looking at PMQ's today, it's not at all obvious that she is 'done for.'
She may have peed off the ERG, but what can they do about it? As things stand, nothing. Remember too that when they had the rules on their side they still managed to bungle the whole thing.
She could be there a lot longer.
If she refuses to budge, they can't touch her at least until December. If she keeps finding a way to kick the Brexit can, the second referendum could be pushed into 2020 which will inhibit any challengers from making their move before they know how it will turn out. By the end of it she could be seen as a safe pair of hands who managed to save the country from disaster.
The ERG are surely behind the latest infantile and laughable strop at their front bench.... who do we reckon? Jenkyns, Private Francois or Bridgen maybe?
Hasn't everyone being saying the same thing for the last 2 years? Looking at PMQ's today, it's not at all obvious that she is 'done for.'
She may have peed off the ERG, but what can they do about it? As things stand, nothing. Remember too that when they had the rules on their side they still managed to bungle the whole thing.
She could be there a lot longer.
If she refuses to budge, they can't touch her at least until December. If she keeps finding a way to kick the Brexit can, the second referendum could be pushed into 2020 which will inhibit any challengers from making their move before they know how it will turn out. By the end of it she could be seen as a safe pair of hands who managed to save the country from disaster.
Yep I agree. If she does land a consensus deal I could even see her still in office in the run up to the 2022 GE, and perhaps in it.
I personally wouldn't be putting money on the demise of Theresa May, just yet.
The ERG are surely behind the latest infantile and laughable strop at their front bench.... who do we reckon? Jenkyns, Private Francois or Bridgen maybe?
Hilariously, I am being investigated by the Labour party for an article and a post I made here on Political Betting. I could end up being expelled from a party of which I am no longer a member. maybe they think I'm Jewish!!
That's just hilarious. I wonder which one of us reported you, though (I sadly doubt it was a lurker)...
I doubt it was anyone active here. I remember that article and from memory it was written a long time ago. Therefore it is likely a trawler has come across it not someone active.
What makes me suspicious is not just the article, but the linking to twitter as well.
why would a casual browser care enough to report it?
Hope I'm wrong, though.
The linking to Twitter would have been the footer of the article. And its entirely possible someone Southam has gotten into an argument on Twitter with has googled him and found that Article.
People scour others twitter records looking for the slightest off comment for the last 20 years. It's a thing now.
Wait until we see the next generation of politicians, who will have been on Twitter and Facebook since they were teenagers, most likely posting all sorts of things.
Expect to see a rise in people changing their identity when they leave university, if they ever fancy running for public office.
There will be so much stuff on twitter. FB etc that everyone will have something embarrassing in their records and people will stop being so judgmental about them. A generation ago if a politician was revealed to be gay or cheating on their partner it was a sensation and quite possibly a resigning issue. Now it hardly merits a mention. Soon old social media posts will be disregarded in the same way.
If Scotland voted for independence, I would accept the result with no problem. But how would you get it past the Westminster MPs?
After all, look at all the supposed difficulties of separating from a union of just over 45 years.. not 312 years.
And after two or three years of deliberate obstruction, insults such as you don't understand the issues - being morons, and now you've changed your minds anyway, you'd end up with revoke or you'd be fobbed off with a scrap more devolution. Is it worth it?
That censure motion is a sign of how incredibly inept the ERG are (assuming they are behind it).
If you want to get rid of the PM you don't lump the rest of the Cabinet in with her: all you succeed in doing with that is uniting the Cabinet and enabling them to see the ERG for what they are. Malcontents on the margins of the world.
That censure motion is a sign of how incredibly inept the ERG are (assuming they are behind it).
If you want to get rid of the PM you don't lump the rest of the Cabinet in with her: all you succeed in doing with that is uniting the Cabinet and enabling them to see the ERG for what they are. Malcontents on the margins of the world.
They are quite fantastically inept.
The same thing goes for the vonc in May. They made no attempt to reach across to the rest of the party
That censure motion is a sign of how incredibly inept the ERG are (assuming they are behind it).
If you want to get rid of the PM you don't lump the rest of the Cabinet in with her: all you succeed in doing with that is uniting the Cabinet and enabling them to see the ERG for what they are. Malcontents on the margins of the world.
They are quite fantastically inept.
Indeed. They same incapable of comprehending just what a fringe group they are. Too many years of spouting off at dinners to adoring back woodsmen, fawning interviews with supportive journalists and lucrative columns. The very definition of an echo chamber.. Hint. Not everyone agrees with you. By a long chalk.
It’s like interviews. I know of firms (non-UK) which will go through social media posts of potential employees. One had better never said anything interesting or controversial.
The upshot is that saying controversial things on twitter is a good way to screen out bad employers
How come Rees Mogg is MR Jacob Rees Mogg, and Steve Baker is MR Steve Baker, whereas the others simply have their names? Maybe it is how Rees Mogg and Baker announce themselves. A now deceased relative of mine always said that a gentleman never refers to himself as "Mr". This is obviously a piece of snobbish old-fashioned-ry that has passed by the monocle mutineer.
Yet 36% of Britons want NI to stay in the UK to only 19% who want it to Leave and join the Republic even if 36% would leave it correctly entirely up to the people of NI
Absolute howler from Blackford, asking why Scotland is being ignored - PM responds that she is meeting the First Ministers for Scotland and Wales today
Too little too late, does not hide fact that she has ignored Scotland totally.
Yes, you can see where this is going. A referendum which has to be approved by a majority of Westminster MPs?
Yes those snivelling xenophobic wankers that whine about the EU allowing them a referendum. It will have F*** all to do with the snivelling rats in Westminster, the Scottish people will decide.
So of those who have a preference, voters favour NI staying in the UK by a 2 to 1 margin.
Would be another way of putting it!
Indeed, just a majority of Brits do not want to send in the troops and impose direct rule and enforce the Union if there is ever a majority for a United Ireland
Absolute howler from Blackford, asking why Scotland is being ignored - PM responds that she is meeting the First Ministers for Scotland and Wales today
Too little too late, does not hide fact that she has ignored Scotland totally.
Even if too little and too late it doesn’t hide that he was just plain wrong, and so gives an open goal for people to dismiss him and the SNP further than they already have. I thought they were more competent and careful than that.
Yet 36% of Britons want NI to stay in the UK to only 19% who want it to Leave and join the Republic even if 36% would leave it correctly entirely up to the people of NI
Does punting the idea of a Loyalist armed UDI of a Prod enclave in the event of reunification count as leaving it correctly entirely up to the people of NI?
Absolute howler from Blackford, asking why Scotland is being ignored - PM responds that she is meeting the First Ministers for Scotland and Wales today
He tried to get out of that by saying it's not formal talks, the surprised face of the lady next to him when TMay said she was meeting with the FM rather gives the lie to that...
Your arse , it is a meeting only , no formal talks have ever taken place with Scottish Government or will with these cretins.
Yet 36% of Britons want NI to stay in the UK to only 19% who want it to Leave and join the Republic even if 36% would leave it correctly entirely up to the people of NI
Does punting the idea of Loyalist armed UDI of a Prod enclave in the event of reunification count as leaving it correctly entirely up to the people of NI?
That is up to loyalists, if there is a majority in Antrim for UDI so be it
The woman promised to stand down whena Brexit deal was passed in order to win over her party. He being done for is not news or a surprise, you will need to be more specific. May clearly knows she is gone soon, and is intent upon securing a deal first, so her being done for doesn’t matter to her.
The woman promised to stand down whena Brexit deal was passed in order to win over her party. He being done for is not news or a surprise, you will need to be more specific. May clearly knows she is gone soon, and is intent upon securing a deal first, so her being done for doesn’t matter to her.
Her promise was very nebulous, but it did smoke out the opportunists who only wanted her job.
The ERG are surely behind the latest infantile and laughable strop at their front bench.... who do we reckon? Jenkyns, Private Francois or Bridgen maybe?
Have any of the outraged brigade explained away that point yet? I assume they’ll do so on the basis that what they were after is good, and what the PM is after is bad, even though that would be her reasoning too.
How come Rees Mogg is MR Jacob Rees Mogg, and Steve Baker is MR Steve Baker, whereas the others simply have their names? Maybe it is how Rees Mogg and Baker announce themselves. A now deceased relative of mine always said that a gentleman never refers to himself as "Mr". This is obviously a piece of snobbish old-fashioned-ry that has passed by the monocle mutineer.
Have any of the outraged brigade explained away that point yet? I assume they’ll do so on the basis that what they were after is good, and what the PM is after is bad, even though that would be her reasoning too.
I'm sure the European Remain Group have an explanation.
How come Rees Mogg is MR Jacob Rees Mogg, and Steve Baker is MR Steve Baker, whereas the others simply have their names? Maybe it is how Rees Mogg and Baker announce themselves. A now deceased relative of mine always said that a gentleman never refers to himself as "Mr". This is obviously a piece of snobbish old-fashioned-ry that has passed by the monocle mutineer.
Are they privy councillors or chairs of select committees? Would that explain it?
How come Rees Mogg is MR Jacob Rees Mogg, and Steve Baker is MR Steve Baker, whereas the others simply have their names? Maybe it is how Rees Mogg and Baker announce themselves. A now deceased relative of mine always said that a gentleman never refers to himself as "Mr". This is obviously a piece of snobbish old-fashioned-ry that has passed by the monocle mutineer.
Are they privy councillors or chairs of select committees? Would that explain it?
I believe it is entirely up to them to ask how their names are recorded officially, it’s a real mixed bag with the Mr references.
Absolute howler from Blackford, asking why Scotland is being ignored - PM responds that she is meeting the First Ministers for Scotland and Wales today
Too little too late, does not hide fact that she has ignored Scotland totally.
How come Rees Mogg is MR Jacob Rees Mogg, and Steve Baker is MR Steve Baker, whereas the others simply have their names? Maybe it is how Rees Mogg and Baker announce themselves. A now deceased relative of mine always said that a gentleman never refers to himself as "Mr". This is obviously a piece of snobbish old-fashioned-ry that has passed by the monocle mutineer.
Are they privy councillors or chairs of select committees? Would that explain it?
After shaking the Speaker’s hand, the MP goes behind the Speaker’s Chair, where staff will take a signature for recognition purposes and ask how the MP wishes to be known in House documents.
How come Rees Mogg is MR Jacob Rees Mogg, and Steve Baker is MR Steve Baker, whereas the others simply have their names? Maybe it is how Rees Mogg and Baker announce themselves. A now deceased relative of mine always said that a gentleman never refers to himself as "Mr". This is obviously a piece of snobbish old-fashioned-ry that has passed by the monocle mutineer.
Are they privy councillors or chairs of select committees? Would that explain it?
I believe it is entirely up to them to ask how their names are recorded officially, it’s a real mixed bag with the Mr references.
How come Rees Mogg is MR Jacob Rees Mogg, and Steve Baker is MR Steve Baker, whereas the others simply have their names? Maybe it is how Rees Mogg and Baker announce themselves. A now deceased relative of mine always said that a gentleman never refers to himself as "Mr". This is obviously a piece of snobbish old-fashioned-ry that has passed by the monocle mutineer.
Are they privy councillors or chairs of select committees? Would that explain it?
After shaking the Speaker’s hand, the MP goes behind the Speaker’s Chair, where staff will take a signature for recognition purposes and ask how the MP wishes to be known in House documents.
Is Zorgon the Earthshaker, Master of all I Survey available?
Is it about anything more than name recognition at this stage though? There’s still a year until the first primary, no-one but the most obsessive political follower is ranking the candidates so early.
How come Rees Mogg is MR Jacob Rees Mogg, and Steve Baker is MR Steve Baker, whereas the others simply have their names? Maybe it is how Rees Mogg and Baker announce themselves. A now deceased relative of mine always said that a gentleman never refers to himself as "Mr". This is obviously a piece of snobbish old-fashioned-ry that has passed by the monocle mutineer.
Are they privy councillors or chairs of select committees? Would that explain it?
After shaking the Speaker’s hand, the MP goes behind the Speaker’s Chair, where staff will take a signature for recognition purposes and ask how the MP wishes to be known in House documents.
Is Zorgon the Earthshaker, Master of all I Survey available?
Yes, but you face an automatic recall petition if you try.
Biden's history of inappropriate public contact with women has been widely available on YouTube for some time. In these #MeToo times there is a very high probability of it being widely discussed during any Presidential campaign he runs.
Just too busy to comment at the moment, a shame in such momentous times.
My feel for a few weeks that has held steady is that all involved will do the minimum required to absolutely prevent no deal, at all times.
Looking through that lens, the recent moves have been a little more predictable. So I'd expect the Cooper bill to fall - not minimal - but the house to approve a motion allowing EU elections to be held - required. etc
How come Rees Mogg is MR Jacob Rees Mogg, and Steve Baker is MR Steve Baker, whereas the others simply have their names? Maybe it is how Rees Mogg and Baker announce themselves. A now deceased relative of mine always said that a gentleman never refers to himself as "Mr". This is obviously a piece of snobbish old-fashioned-ry that has passed by the monocle mutineer.
Are they privy councillors or chairs of select committees? Would that explain it?
I believe it is entirely up to them to ask how their names are recorded officially, it’s a real mixed bag with the Mr references.
Yes, it’s personal preference how MPs would like to be addressed. I recall that Ed Miliband was known as Edward for a while, which amused some. MPs who can use Sir or Dr usually do, and a few use Mr, Mrs or other title.
Privy Councillors are addressed as the Right Honourable Member, as opposed to simply the Honourable Member, for their constituency.
I completed my latest campaign on Sunday - a 21-mile walk to Barnet, completing the London Loop. I 'celebrated' by extending it five miles down to Finchley.
London is a surprisingly green city; the trail is within the M25 at all times, but spends relatively little time in urban areas. Londoners are lucky to have that sort of thing on their doorstep.
How come Rees Mogg is MR Jacob Rees Mogg, and Steve Baker is MR Steve Baker, whereas the others simply have their names? Maybe it is how Rees Mogg and Baker announce themselves. A now deceased relative of mine always said that a gentleman never refers to himself as "Mr". This is obviously a piece of snobbish old-fashioned-ry that has passed by the monocle mutineer.
Are they privy councillors or chairs of select committees? Would that explain it?
After shaking the Speaker’s hand, the MP goes behind the Speaker’s Chair, where staff will take a signature for recognition purposes and ask how the MP wishes to be known in House documents.
How come Rees Mogg is MR Jacob Rees Mogg, and Steve Baker is MR Steve Baker, whereas the others simply have their names? Maybe it is how Rees Mogg and Baker announce themselves. A now deceased relative of mine always said that a gentleman never refers to himself as "Mr". This is obviously a piece of snobbish old-fashioned-ry that has passed by the monocle mutineer.
Are they privy councillors or chairs of select committees? Would that explain it?
I believe it is entirely up to them to ask how their names are recorded officially, it’s a real mixed bag with the Mr references.
I did not know that, thank you.
It's such a pity that Richard Grosvenor Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax uses the dumbed-down version of his name.
How come Rees Mogg is MR Jacob Rees Mogg, and Steve Baker is MR Steve Baker, whereas the others simply have their names? Maybe it is how Rees Mogg and Baker announce themselves. A now deceased relative of mine always said that a gentleman never refers to himself as "Mr". This is obviously a piece of snobbish old-fashioned-ry that has passed by the monocle mutineer.
Are they privy councillors or chairs of select committees? Would that explain it?
I believe it is entirely up to them to ask how their names are recorded officially, it’s a real mixed bag with the Mr references.
I did not know that, thank you.
It's such a pity that Richard Grosvenor Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax uses the dumbed-down version of his name.
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Expect to see a rise in people changing their identity when they leave university, if they ever fancy running for public office.
https://twitter.com/rbrharrison/status/1113404124886908928
This isn't going to end well...
She may have peed off the ERG, but what can they do about it? As things stand, nothing. Remember too that when they had the rules on their side they still managed to bungle the whole thing.
And Tommy Robinson at that rally was a goddam awful moment
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1113405108006588416
If she refuses to budge, they can't touch her at least until December. If she keeps finding a way to kick the Brexit can, the second referendum could be pushed into 2020 which will inhibit any challengers from making their move before they know how it will turn out. By the end of it she could be seen as a safe pair of hands who managed to save the country from disaster.
I personally wouldn't be putting money on the demise of Theresa May, just yet.
Reducing to raging at the dying of the light.
Pathetic.
If Scotland voted for independence, I would accept the result with no problem. But how would you get it past the Westminster MPs?
After all, look at all the supposed difficulties of separating from a union of just over 45 years.. not 312 years.
And after two or three years of deliberate obstruction, insults such as you don't understand the issues - being morons, and now you've changed your minds anyway, you'd end up with revoke or you'd be fobbed off with a scrap more devolution. Is it worth it?
Representative democracy old chap.
If you want to get rid of the PM you don't lump the rest of the Cabinet in with her: all you succeed in doing with that is uniting the Cabinet and enabling them to see the ERG for what they are. Malcontents on the margins of the world.
They are quite fantastically inept.
Still, at least it "isn't institutional", right?
The very definition of an echo chamber..
Hint. Not everyone agrees with you. By a long chalk.
Would be another way of putting it!
Trying to deliver Brexit while others try to stop it, and being grown up in trying (however late) to seek consensus. What an outrage.
Have any of the outraged brigade explained away that point yet? I assume they’ll do so on the basis that what they were after is good, and what the PM is after is bad, even though that would be her reasoning too.
They are professional offence takers, they’d find fault with the time of day.
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I suppose she could promise to bring down the Custer Living.
People just don't know what to think apparently, compared to say trump..orange man baddddd...
https://youtu.be/_Jez-bae0fU
If someone holds this pint, I'll go and get my coat ...
https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/elections-and-voting/swearingin/#jump-link-4
After shaking the Speaker’s hand, the MP goes behind the Speaker’s Chair, where staff will take a signature for recognition purposes and ask how the MP wishes to be known in House documents.
My feel for a few weeks that has held steady is that all involved will do the minimum required to absolutely prevent no deal, at all times.
Looking through that lens, the recent moves have been a little more predictable. So I'd expect the Cooper bill to fall - not minimal - but the house to approve a motion allowing EU elections to be held - required. etc
Privy Councillors are addressed as the Right Honourable Member, as opposed to simply the Honourable Member, for their constituency.
FFS first Andrea Jenkyns now Lee Rowley.
London is a surprisingly green city; the trail is within the M25 at all times, but spends relatively little time in urban areas. Londoners are lucky to have that sort of thing on their doorstep.
It’s always bloody awful.
They could hardly take John Major!
Noon! Noon! Noon!!!