Well, gym, and the rolling text on BBC News kept saying Toadies instead of Tories. Sentences like -
"Much discussion as whether the Toadies will be blamed for a No Deal Brexit." "Nobody appears to want to compromise. Not the TIGs, not Labour, not the Toadies." "Highly unlikely that there will be an election until there is a new Toady leader."
It was very hard not to laugh. In fact I didn't manage it.
Similar to when I was watching News at Ten last Wednesday and the ITV subtitles kept referring to the DUP as "do you pee" whenever it was said by Foster and her lot.
"You got debate Geoffrey, we go the notion, we get together we can table Brexit motion"
"Then we can keep our deal alive And when it falls we won't let it die It doesn't matter if you win or lose It's how you play the game so get that motion moved"
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
They've sprung for pepperoni over Hawaiian.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
Sky reporting the Letwin/Cooper bill, if it gets through the HOC it will need the HOL to sit on friday at which time it is open to amendments, and it is likely brexiteers will table many
Nick Boles was hurt by his deselection and his actions yesterday seemed to be one of pique
Fab interview with Nick Boles. They should have chosen him as next leader. He actually sounded genuine.
(Well done to Laura K who did the interview)
PS. Can anyone argue with his thought that NO ONE who served in the Cabinet from 2017 till the present should be next Tory leader or that May's Cabinet is the worst in living memory.
Nick Boles was hurt by his deselection and clearly distressed by losing his amendment, but his commons statement was of someone acting in a fit of pique. He certainly is not leader material, and many in the party are unsuitable, but there are cabinet members who could lead, especially against Corbyn
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
They've sprung for pepperoni over Hawaiian.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
"I believe it is Theresa May’s destiny to be the Prime Minister who delivers Brexit in a way that preserves the UK’s prosperity, constitutional integrity and position in the world."
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
They've sprung for pepperoni over Hawaiian.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
They've sprung for pepperoni over Hawaiian.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
They've sprung for pepperoni over Hawaiian.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
what is extended no deal? and is the EU really going to allow an extension for it?
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
They've sprung for pepperoni over Hawaiian.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
what is extended no deal? and is the EU really going to allow an extension for it?
I think it is just a hope the EU will give us six months, or until the end of the year, before we crash out. As to the EU allowing it, I have no idea. I think the EU would be much more willing to permit extensions than they say, given they watered things down last time. I almost hope they don't, so our MPs cannot kick the can.
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
They've sprung for pepperoni over Hawaiian.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
what is extended no deal? and is the EU really going to allow an extension for it?
If you extend the departure date to December 2020, then the Withdrawal Agreement is unnecessary.
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
They've sprung for pepperoni over Hawaiian.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
what is extended no deal? and is the EU really going to allow an extension for it?
If you extend the departure date to December 2020, then the Withdrawal Agreement is unnecessary.
The Evening Standard says May is considering adding a Customs Union to the PD of her Deal and giving Labour MPs to right to influence future talks in order to get it through. However 20 Tory MPs are said to be ready to back a VONC rather than any Brexit compromise.
Rudd, Gauke and Clark are also pressuring the PM to agree to contest the European Parliament elections and ask the EU to extend Article 50.
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
They've sprung for pepperoni over Hawaiian.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
what is extended no deal? and is the EU really going to allow an extension for it?
If you extend the departure date to December 2020, then the Withdrawal Agreement is unnecessary.
"I believe it is Theresa May’s destiny to be the Prime Minister who delivers Brexit in a way that preserves the UK’s prosperity, constitutional integrity and position in the world."
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
They've sprung for pepperoni over Hawaiian.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
what is extended no deal? and is the EU really going to allow an extension for it?
If you extend the departure date to December 2020, then the Withdrawal Agreement is unnecessary.
With Euro elections?
Yup.
A transition period where we get a seat at the table as well? What's not to like? Thanks.
"I believe it is Theresa May’s destiny to be the Prime Minister who delivers Brexit in a way that preserves the UK’s prosperity, constitutional integrity and position in the world."
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
They've sprung for pepperoni over Hawaiian.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
what is extended no deal? and is the EU really going to allow an extension for it?
If you extend the departure date to December 2020, then the Withdrawal Agreement is unnecessary.
With Euro elections?
Yup. Let's bite the bullet: extend to Dec 2020, abandon the WA and the PD, use the 21 months to prepare for no-deal, abandon the GFA, build a Game Of Thrones wall between Ireland and Northern Ireland, and get on with our lives. It has the admirable advantage of requiring consent of no other countries at all.
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
They've sprung for pepperoni over Hawaiian.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
what is extended no deal? and is the EU really going to allow an extension for it?
If you extend the departure date to December 2020, then the Withdrawal Agreement is unnecessary.
With Euro elections?
Yup. Let's bite the bullet: extend to Dec 2020, abandon the WA and the PD, use the 21 months to prepare for no-deal, abandon the GFA, build a Game Of Thrones wall between Ireland and Northern Ireland, and get on with our lives. It has the admirable advantage of requiring consent of no other countries at all.
Looking at this from a purely strategic perspective, is the way to play this not “Parliament can’t come up with an alternative so I’m going to go to Brussels and tell them we will not be extending Article 50. No deal will therefore happen on 12 April. However, I’ll put the WA to a vote one last time on Friday just in case you want to take that option instead.”
Best chance of getting The Deal through? And if Cooper-Letwin get the Extension Bill through tomorrow, well, it’ll be for someone else to pick up...
Looking at this from a purely strategic perspective, is the way to play this not “Parliament can’t come up with an alternative so I’m going to go to Brussels and tell them we will not be extending Article 50. No deal will therefore happen on 12 April. However, I’ll put the WA to a vote one last time on Friday just in case you want to take that option instead.”
Best chance of getting The Deal through? And if Cooper-Letwin get the Extension Bill through tomorrow, well, it’ll be for someone else to pick up...
One option is for May with Cabinet backing to say the only proposal that the House has accepted is the Brady amendment. So Cabinet has agreed that the backstop must be removed from the WD, it can be put in the PD, then the WD and PD will pass the House. If the EU can not do that then it is no deal.
They have just confirmed what he bangs on about, that the establishment are trying to silence him etc etc etc.
Far better to let him publish, and let the internet pick up any horseshit he spouts (which if the internet is good at one thing, it is jumping on that bandwagon when somebody gets caught out).
The problem with that is the Internet becomes bubbles. The sane Internet might pick up on what he spouts, but the people who follow his sh*t might not pick up on that because they don't follow the right places (and the same goes for others as well).
I think there's a reasonable rule of thumb: if you'd get arrested for standing in the street and shouting something into a megaphone, you shouldn't expect a right to say it on open forums on the Internet. Though there are difficulties with that concept as well wrt territories.
It’s a reasonable analogy
The difference is YouTube isn’t arresting him for shouting something into a megaphone, they are preventing him from saying anything
If you get arrested for shouting things into a megaphone enough times on, say, Oxford Street, eventually you should just get banned from Oxford Street altogether. And possibly a bunch of other streets nearby, just in case. YouTube is a private company rather than a public space, which should make it simpler to ban people they don't want.
Actually I think this is a positive development generally. The problem we're having with the likes of YouTube and Facebook is that they have long insisted they are tech companies, not publishing/media companies, and therefore they have no responsibility for what people use their platforms to post. The recent trend has been towards forcing them to take more and more action to remove prohibited content quicker - in particular the recent New Zealand mosque attack, where they were criticised for allowing the gunman to post live footage - which is almost impossible to stop unless you require moderation for everything in real time. If we had similar rules in place social media companies as we do for the wider media (eg editors can't just hide behind their journalists if they post false accusations without checking them properly) then we'd be in a much better place.
The concern is once they become a dominant stream of discourse they are not just private companies. In the way that, for example, it is (rightly) very difficult to cut off someone’s water or gas supply it should be difficult to cut off their right to express their views publicly
He knows Cooper belongs to Labour, yeah? And that they don’t have ‘associations’? And that any members of Cooper’s who aren’t that well-disposed towards her are hardly likely to take their lead from a right-wing ERG enthusiast?
Sky's Beth Rigby thinks there's been a "big decision", whatever that means.
Nando's for dinner tonight.
Second referendum ?
GE? Nuclear option.
The Sky news people are saying that the "prime ministerial crest" being on the lectern suggests it won't be a general election. (Not sure if it would also rule out a referendum.)
He knows Cooper belongs to Labour, yeah? And that they don’t have ‘associations’? And that any members of Cooper’s who aren’t that well-disposed towards her are hardly likely to take their lead from a right-wing ERG enthusiast?
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don't believe the hype
we've been here LITERALLY four times before
Sounds about right.
Sadly I think the EU will let us do that.
Each time Theresa manages to disappoint me.
And when it falls we won't let it die
It doesn't matter if you win or lose
It's how you play the game so get that motion moved"
how many times are you gonna fall for this.
Actually, I expect it is that they'll give one more go for the WA, then extended no deal,w ith the 'remainers' in Cabinet defending themselves onthe basis that it is better than crashing out with even less preparation.
Tory MPs want no deal, there's no way around that for May.
"I believe it is Theresa May’s destiny to be the Prime Minister who delivers Brexit in a way that preserves the UK’s prosperity, constitutional integrity and position in the world."
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1113117686467358721
Rudd, Gauke and Clark are also pressuring the PM to agree to contest the European Parliament elections and ask the EU to extend Article 50.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-top-tories-warn-theresa-may-they-are-on-the-brink-of-a-historic-party-split-a4107021.html
The paper also says the party faces its biggest split since Peel and the repeal of the Corn Laws
https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/evening-standard-comment-past-present-and-future-tories-face-historic-split-killing-eve-returns-soon-a4107101.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6284063/NICK-BOLES-reveals-workable-Brexit-plan.html
Sky predicting a big decision has been made
Best chance of getting The Deal through? And if Cooper-Letwin get the Extension Bill through tomorrow, well, it’ll be for someone else to pick up...
https://twitter.com/DKShrewsbury/status/1113118939020759040?s=20
I’m not on the edge of my seat.
I’m not on the edge of my seat.
Just minutes until the same pile of wank is repeated for the 97th time. I don't know about you lot, but I can't wait...
Crest on the lectern....
She’ll probably just give MPs a bollocking.
#shouldhavedonethis2yearsago
Nick Boles is a acting like a spoilt child who doesn’t get his own way. He is certainly not bang on the money.
Corbyn refused.