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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,869

    So frustrating. Stuck just outside Banbury now. Am not the only one who is missing out. There are a few of us in the same spot, it seems. Remainers, unfortunately. Or maybe there are some shy Leavers too :-)

    20 mins from Banbury to Leamington by train so you might scrape it but if you commute from Warwickshire to London could you not have got a postal vote?
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,586

    GIN1138 said:

    alex. said:

    It's strange to think big Ben will.strike 10, the election programmed will roll & then we will have to wait 4-5 hrs being they actually start to say anything about the possible result.

    We will surely have a pretty good idea long before that, unless it is VERY close? The fact is that unlike a general election we will be able to deduce something from every result - with the important thing in many cases not being who wins in various areas, but what the turnout is. In General Elections it is the marginal seats which are most important, but that is not the case here. If anything marginal constituencies are very unimportant, because a close race can have a turnout of 10% or 90% and it won't make much difference.
    I think Sunderland will tell us all we need to know (REMAIN will do vastly better than "expected")
    The spreads have Sunderland as being approx. REMAIN 45% : Leave 55%. Anything materially different from that will excite the betting markets.
    Yes, that's a sensible midpoint. Leave more than 60% is great, less than 50% means Remain has probably won.

    With the proviso that the Nissan plant may make Sunderland less representative than you'd expect.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,871
    RobD said:

    twitter.com/lewisiwu/status/746076633644281856

    He coulda been PM!
    If he'd backed Remain. :)
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    jayfdeejayfdee Posts: 618
    He looks like he has had a few sherberts.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Less than 30 minutes until polls close!

    More importantly, less then 25 minutes until the Dimbleby graces our televisions with his presence!
    Dimbleby needs to join Sir Bruce in honourable retirement. He's a sad sight to see these days.
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    RobD said:

    So frustrating. Stuck just outside Banbury now. Am not the only one who is missing out. There are a few of us in the same spot, it seems. Remainers, unfortunately. Or maybe there are some shy Leavers too :-)

    Any chance at all of you making it to the polling place?
    Very sad to hear this
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,206
    edited June 2016

    So it seems everyone thinks Remain have this?

    Probably true. But still 30 mins of voting left.

    If the city wide boys and Boris think it's all done and dusted sounds like not even fergie time would help leave.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,080
    edited June 2016
    Has he had a drink? I

    t's odd to be conceding defeat to a member of the public... On the Tube! :smiley:
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,182
    So what's got everyone so confident of a remain win all of a sudden?
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    murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,052
    tyson said:

    Be quiet everyone. Plato is obviously asleep,...I wouldn't anyone waking her up and spoiling this peace and quiet at the minute.

    Like - we could do without excessive right-wing bigotry...
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,871
    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Less than 30 minutes until polls close!

    More importantly, less then 25 minutes until the Dimbleby graces our televisions with his presence!
    Talking of cathartic departures... It's about time we moved into a new era of BBC political coverage.
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    MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    GIN1138 said:

    Has he had a drink? I

    t's odd to be conceding defeat to a member of the public... On the Tube! :smiley:
    Seems unlikely.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    So what's got everyone so confident of a remain win all of a sudden?

    I think it's PB's collective spidey-sense tingling.
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    Cookie said:

    Anecdote: a conversation reported to me earlier with someone at the BBC in Salford - apparently it's difficult to find a Remainer there. Unexpected, certainly, but possibly given the Corbynist nature of some at the BBC believable. Or maybe it's different between the workers and the higher echelons.

    I used to live in Salford. Not unexpected. At least outside Media City
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,058
    Anyway before the results come in well done to leave for making an even fist of this, despite all the odds.

    After all, they had such a pathetic rabble of a front team, a hopeless argument, and no-one of any significance supporting them....


    I have to hand it to them. Leave defied logic, sanity and any kind of reason to make this into a right rollocking contest. And I say that with all due respect.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,206

    So what's got everyone so confident of a remain win all of a sudden?

    City wide boys have been piling on all day. They have info we don't.
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited June 2016
    RobD said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope you watched "San Andreas" on the plane.. titters :D
    I have the Rock on permanent look out for them :tongue:
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,184

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Less than 30 minutes until polls close!

    More importantly, less then 25 minutes until the Dimbleby graces our televisions with his presence!
    Talking of cathartic departures... It's about time we moved into a new era of BBC political coverage.
    I'm sure the Dimbleclone is being worked on right now.
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,058
    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.

    rcs.....are you still going leave by a big margin?
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    OmniumOmnium Posts: 9,919
    rpjs said:

    Omnium said:

    Wanderer said:

    John_M said:

    Wanderer said:

    Freggles said:


    LOL
    image

    Absolutely correct. But for me the EU is now post Federation and into it's early Culture phase. We need to get it to and through it's Iridian War.
    Ah, the Culture. That's where I want to live.
    I'm so sad that we'll never get another Culture novel. I love 'em all. Player of Games is probably my favourite, with Use of Weapons running a close second.
    Likewise. I think Excession is my favourite.
    Excession is outstanding. The Culture is almost a non-government. Banks may have told us things that he didn't realise.



    I like to think of IMB as having been a Contact agent sent here to prepare us. Elon Musk is also a Contact agent working on Phase II.
    Yes, but the Contact agents would in fact be you and I. Moreover the fact I identify us both should surely alert everyone to the truth. Doing so is so daft other than a smokescreen after all.

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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,586
    weejonnie said:

    GIN1138 said:

    alex. said:

    It's strange to think big Ben will.strike 10, the election programmed will roll & then we will have to wait 4-5 hrs being they actually start to say anything about the possible result.

    We will surely have a pretty good idea long before that, unless it is VERY close? The fact is that unlike a general election we will be able to deduce something from every result - with the important thing in many cases not being who wins in various areas, but what the turnout is. In General Elections it is the marginal seats which are most important, but that is not the case here. If anything marginal constituencies are very unimportant, because a close race can have a turnout of 10% or 90% and it won't make much difference.
    I think Sunderland will tell us all we need to know (REMAIN will do vastly better than "expected")
    Quite likely - I hope everyone is keyed up to move their position, one way or the other.

    Leave < 50 : pack bags and welcome evermore EU integration
    Leave 50-53: Looks like the Brussels gravy train is back on track.
    Leave 53-54: No fingernails left.
    Leave 54-57: Cameron in stinky bum time
    Leave 57+ : Rejoice.
    :)

    I think we need 60%+ before we start rejoicing.

    Turnout also key. We need decent turnout in Leave leading areas; if it's below 70%, there is the possibility that we each of the council areas we want does well, but that we get drowned out by high turnout in London and Scotland.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,184
    Charles said:

    RobD said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope you watched "San Andreas" on the plane.. titters :D
    I have the Rock on permanent look out for them :tongue:
    Touché!
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.
    Top deck. But only premium economy.

    I told you I'm a cheap b*stard
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,110
    edited June 2016
    HYUFD said:

    So frustrating. Stuck just outside Banbury now. Am not the only one who is missing out. There are a few of us in the same spot, it seems. Remainers, unfortunately. Or maybe there are some shy Leavers too :-)

    20 mins from Banbury to Leamington by train so you might scrape it but if you commute from Warwickshire to London could you not have got a postal vote?

    I thought I'd be back in plenty of time. And would have been but for a lightning strike somewhere on the track. Still, it's my own fault. I just feel very frustrated and incredibly disappointed to miss out. I will end up doing what I thought I'd do when the referendum date was announced - not vote.

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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,586
    tyson said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.

    rcs.....are you still going leave by a big margin?
    I have genuinely no idea what the result will be. However, I expect the winner to get 54+% of the vote.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,810

    RobD said:

    So frustrating. Stuck just outside Banbury now. Am not the only one who is missing out. There are a few of us in the same spot, it seems. Remainers, unfortunately. Or maybe there are some shy Leavers too :-)

    Any chance at all of you making it to the polling place?
    Very sad to hear this
    Me too.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,895
    weejonnie said:

    John_M said:

    weejonnie said:

    Wanderer said:

    Freggles said:


    LOL
    image

    Absolutely correct. But for me the EU is now post Federation and into it's early Culture phase. We need to get it to and through it's Iridian War.
    Ah, the Culture. That's where I want to live.
    Male, female, both or Apex.
    Female. I've had more than enough time in a male body.
    Well you can always change back again - yes - Player of Games is my favourite.
    Mine too. Just a brilliant book.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Do both the campaigns genuinely have virtually the whole country covered for this, or might there be significant pockets where they have little intelligence. Clearly this is on a different scale to a General Election where most of the focus is on a fairly narrow band of seats, and to have an idea of what's going on they need to work out not just how various areas are voting but in what numbers.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,184
    Charles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.
    Top deck. But only premium economy.

    I told you I'm a cheap b*stard
    I assume you at least took them in as guest to a lounge pre-departure? :p
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    rcs1000 said:

    tyson said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.

    rcs.....are you still going leave by a big margin?
    I have genuinely no idea what the result will be. However, I expect the winner to get 54+% of the vote.
    The winner will certainly get at least fifty something of the vote
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    saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245
    tyson said:

    Be quiet everyone. Plato is obviously asleep,...I wouldn't anyone waking her up and spoiling this peace and quiet at the minute.

    Pretty snide and uncalled for.
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,110
    Where is all this certainty coming from? how can people profess such confidence?

    And surely if Remain have won that's great news for Boris?
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,080
    MP_SE said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Has he had a drink? I

    t's odd to be conceding defeat to a member of the public... On the Tube! :smiley:
    Seems unlikely.
    With Boris though, anything is possible. ;) I suppose tonight will effectively be the end of his political career?
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    WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838

    So it seems everyone thinks Remain have this?

    Probably true. But still 30 mins of voting left.

    I don't think Remain have necessarily got it. All people are going on are:

    * rumours on Twitter (value less than zero)
    * baddish last-minute polls for Leave (but if you exclude Populus, they all had it close)
    * the state of the betting (but that probably isn't based on foreknowledge)

    I think it's still very much in-play.

    People can't predict a close result on the one hand and a certain result on the other. If 52% Remain is likely then 49% is very possible. If Remain is home and hosed then it must mean that it has won big. I don't see the evidence for that.
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    RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 2,996

    So what's got everyone so confident of a remain win all of a sudden?

    It's a bit like the general election again - one side supremely confident, changed quite rapidly. Though I do think this will go remains way for some reason.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658

    Cookie said:

    Anecdote: a conversation reported to me earlier with someone at the BBC in Salford - apparently it's difficult to find a Remainer there. Unexpected, certainly, but possibly given the Corbynist nature of some at the BBC believable. Or maybe it's different between the workers and the higher echelons.

    I used to live in Salford. Not unexpected. At least outside Media City
    I think he meant WITHIN Media City!
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,906

    So what's got everyone so confident of a remain win all of a sudden?

    City wide boys have been piling on all day. They have info we don't.
    Their own private exit polls
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    AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    Wanderer said:

    John_M said:

    Wanderer said:

    Freggles said:


    LOL
    image

    Absolutely correct. But for me the EU is now post Federation and into it's early Culture phase. We need to get it to and through it's Iridian War.
    Ah, the Culture. That's where I want to live.
    I'm so sad that we'll never get another Culture novel. I love 'em all. Player of Games is probably my favourite, with Use of Weapons running a close second.
    Likewise. I think Excession is my favourite.
    Well, duh. Truly wonderful book, in every sense of the word.
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    MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    John_M said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Less than 30 minutes until polls close!

    More importantly, less then 25 minutes until the Dimbleby graces our televisions with his presence!
    Dimbleby needs to join Sir Bruce in honourable retirement. He's a sad sight to see these days.
    He's still perfectly good at making recorded pieces to camera, à la Attenborough.

    My mother (who used to work as a shop assistant, and likes to regale people who've heard it a dozen times before that she used to serve the Dimblebies when they were young men) loves his history documentaries.

    I think big live events - maybe even live TV full stop - is getting a bit beyond his ability to carry successfully.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,586
    Charles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.
    Top deck. But only premium economy.

    I told you I'm a cheap b*stard
    Top deck premium economy is my standard PA position (unless I'm blowing airmiles). If you have a window seat you get that nice extra space on the side.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,871
    Charles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.
    Top deck. But only premium economy.

    I told you I'm a cheap b*stard
    You'll change when you accept you've entered middle age. ;)
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited June 2016
    rcs1000 said:

    weejonnie said:

    GIN1138 said:

    alex. said:

    It's strange to think big Ben will.strike 10, the election programmed will roll & then we will have to wait 4-5 hrs being they actually start to say anything about the possible result.

    We will surely have a pretty good idea long before that, unless it is VERY close? The fact is that unlike a general election we will be able to deduce something from every result - with the important thing in many cases not being who wins in various areas, but what the turnout is. In General Elections it is the marginal seats which are most important, but that is not the case here. If anything marginal constituencies are very unimportant, because a close race can have a turnout of 10% or 90% and it won't make much difference.
    I think Sunderland will tell us all we need to know (REMAIN will do vastly better than "expected")
    Quite likely - I hope everyone is keyed up to move their position, one way or the other.

    Leave < 50 : pack bags and welcome evermore EU integration
    Leave 50-53: Looks like the Brussels gravy train is back on track.
    Leave 53-54: No fingernails left.
    Leave 54-57: Cameron in stinky bum time
    Leave 57+ : Rejoice.
    :)

    I think we need 60%+ before we start rejoicing.

    Turnout also key. We need decent turnout in Leave leading areas; if it's below 70%, there is the possibility that we each of the council areas we want does well, but that we get drowned out swamped by high turnout in London and Scotland.
    Fixed it for ya! :tongue:
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    Harris_TweedHarris_Tweed Posts: 1,314

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Less than 30 minutes until polls close!

    More importantly, less then 25 minutes until the Dimbleby graces our televisions with his presence!
    Talking of cathartic departures... It's about time we moved into a new era of BBC political coverage.
    It was announced before GE2015 that DD was hanging up his mic afterwards in favour of Huw Edwards. But I guess that actually meant "at some time of his choosing before 2020".
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    GIN1138 said:

    MP_SE said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Has he had a drink? I

    t's odd to be conceding defeat to a member of the public... On the Tube! :smiley:
    Seems unlikely.
    With Boris though, anything is possible. ;) I suppose tonight will effectively be the end of his political career?
    He could stand for Mayor next time round?
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    GIN1138 said:

    MP_SE said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Has he had a drink? I

    t's odd to be conceding defeat to a member of the public... On the Tube! :smiley:
    Seems unlikely.
    With Boris though, anything is possible. ;) I suppose tonight will effectively be the end of his political career?
    Doesn't he make about £250k just from his Telegraph work? I'm not going to feel sorry for Boris. He's going to make a mint whatever happens.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,416
    Boris only just voting now.
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Boris almost forgetting to vote!
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,895
    Who do the undecided think the EU are?
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,906
    Notice some of the odds are now 1/10 on remain.
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    YBarddCwscYBarddCwsc Posts: 7,172

    So what's got everyone so confident of a remain win all of a sudden?

    City wide boys have been piling on all day. They have info we don't.
    Their own private exit polls
    I have no doubt this right.

    I think the question is whether the extra information they have is accurate or misleading.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,416
    Thrasher saying that turnout at least GE level.
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    JennyFreemanJennyFreeman Posts: 488
    that made me smile & its especially true when we have no reference points for this unlike a general election
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    RobD said:

    Charles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.
    Top deck. But only premium economy.

    I told you I'm a cheap b*stard
    I assume you at least took them in as guest to a lounge pre-departure? :p
    She's got her own gold card...
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,058
    rcs1000 said:

    tyson said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.

    rcs.....are you still going leave by a big margin?
    I have genuinely no idea what the result will be. However, I expect the winner to get 54+% of the vote.
    The masochist in me is hoping for a very close night with Remain squeaking through at 8.00 am tomorrow morning on the last count. They are the best footie matches, right? And the possibilities with betfair will be enormous.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,184
    Charles said:

    RobD said:

    Charles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.
    Top deck. But only premium economy.

    I told you I'm a cheap b*stard
    I assume you at least took them in as guest to a lounge pre-departure? :p
    She's got her own gold card...
    Sent her in on her own did you? A true gent :p
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,906

    So what's got everyone so confident of a remain win all of a sudden?

    City wide boys have been piling on all day. They have info we don't.
    Their own private exit polls
    I have no doubt this right.

    I think the question is whether the extra information they have is accurate or misleading.
    It was reported they were paying over £500,000 for the info
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    WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    So, is there going to be a thread on the council by-election in Sunninghill? Real people, real votes.
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.
    Top deck. But only premium economy.

    I told you I'm a cheap b*stard
    Top deck premium economy is my standard PA position (unless I'm blowing airmiles). If you have a window seat you get that nice extra space on the side.
    2 seats together (on the right, naturally)
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,206
    tlg86 said:

    Boris only just voting now.

    For remain....but don't tell anybody!
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    HYUFD said:

    So frustrating. Stuck just outside Banbury now. Am not the only one who is missing out. There are a few of us in the same spot, it seems. Remainers, unfortunately. Or maybe there are some shy Leavers too :-)

    20 mins from Banbury to Leamington by train so you might scrape it but if you commute from Warwickshire to London could you not have got a postal vote?
    You don't need to justify being eligible for a postal vote - you simply ask for one. Easy peasy , I can't understand why everyone doesn't do it.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,184
    tyson said:

    rcs1000 said:

    tyson said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.

    rcs.....are you still going leave by a big margin?
    I have genuinely no idea what the result will be. However, I expect the winner to get 54+% of the vote.
    The masochist in me is hoping for a very close night with Remain squeaking through at 8.00 am tomorrow morning on the last count. They are the best footie matches, right? And the possibilities with betfair will be enormous.
    Yeah I don't want it to be all over at the first declaration. Where's the fun in that!
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    BE-LEAVE!
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,058
    saddened said:

    tyson said:

    Be quiet everyone. Plato is obviously asleep,...I wouldn't anyone waking her up and spoiling this peace and quiet at the minute.

    Pretty snide and uncalled for.
    I know- I regretted it after I posted it. Sorry Plato.

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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,871
    Ave_it said:

    BE-LEAVE!

    Let's be 'avin' EU!
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,184
    It's Ave_it!!
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,851

    HYUFD said:

    So frustrating. Stuck just outside Banbury now. Am not the only one who is missing out. There are a few of us in the same spot, it seems. Remainers, unfortunately. Or maybe there are some shy Leavers too :-)

    20 mins from Banbury to Leamington by train so you might scrape it but if you commute from Warwickshire to London could you not have got a postal vote?
    You don't need to justify being eligible for a postal vote - you simply ask for one. Easy peasy , I can't understand why everyone doesn't do it.
    The post is shit in loads of places.
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    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Less than 30 minutes until polls close!

    More importantly, less then 25 minutes until the Dimbleby graces our televisions with his presence!
    Talking of cathartic departures... It's about time we moved into a new era of BBC political coverage.
    I'm sure the Dimbleclone is being worked on right now.
    He and his brother both have 4 kids each, surely they can train one of them up?
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    RobD said:

    tyson said:

    rcs1000 said:

    tyson said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.

    rcs.....are you still going leave by a big margin?
    I have genuinely no idea what the result will be. However, I expect the winner to get 54+% of the vote.
    The masochist in me is hoping for a very close night with Remain squeaking through at 8.00 am tomorrow morning on the last count. They are the best footie matches, right? And the possibilities with betfair will be enormous.
    Yeah I don't want it to be all over at the first declaration. Where's the fun in that!
    Leave takes Gibraltar?
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,184
    edited June 2016

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Less than 30 minutes until polls close!

    More importantly, less then 25 minutes until the Dimbleby graces our televisions with his presence!
    Talking of cathartic departures... It's about time we moved into a new era of BBC political coverage.
    I'm sure the Dimbleclone is being worked on right now.
    He and his brother both have 4 kids each, surely they can train one of them up?
    One went to school with the Moggster himself (not his sons)!
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,133
    Ave_it said:

    BE-LEAVE!

    Ave it has spoken !
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,080
    Ave_it said:

    BE-LEAVE!

    Alas, it's all over AveIt.... And I'm not sure we're even going to live to fight another day... ;)
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,810
    rcs1000 said:

    tyson said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.

    rcs.....are you still going leave by a big margin?
    I have genuinely no idea what the result will be. However, I expect the winner to get 54+% of the vote.
    Why? I don't see the evidence as to why it should be an 8-point margin either way.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658

    HYUFD said:

    So frustrating. Stuck just outside Banbury now. Am not the only one who is missing out. There are a few of us in the same spot, it seems. Remainers, unfortunately. Or maybe there are some shy Leavers too :-)

    20 mins from Banbury to Leamington by train so you might scrape it but if you commute from Warwickshire to London could you not have got a postal vote?
    You don't need to justify being eligible for a postal vote - you simply ask for one. Easy peasy , I can't understand why everyone doesn't do it.
    The post is shit in loads of places.
    You don't have to post it.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,869

    HYUFD said:

    So frustrating. Stuck just outside Banbury now. Am not the only one who is missing out. There are a few of us in the same spot, it seems. Remainers, unfortunately. Or maybe there are some shy Leavers too :-)

    20 mins from Banbury to Leamington by train so you might scrape it but if you commute from Warwickshire to London could you not have got a postal vote?

    I thought I'd be back in plenty of time. And would have been but for a lightning strike somewhere on the track. Still, it's my own fault. I just feel very frustrated and incredibly disappointed to miss out. I will end up doing what I thought I'd do when the referendum date was announced - not vote.

    Sorry to hear that but it will almost certainly not come down to one vote so never mind, there is always the County Council elections next year!
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    RobD said:

    It's Ave_it!!

    It's a great day for PB! Ave_it you legend!
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    PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083
    Charles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.
    Top deck. But only premium economy.

    I told you I'm a cheap b*stard
    BA283 on the A380 then?
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    murali_s said:

    tyson said:

    Be quiet everyone. Plato is obviously asleep,...I wouldn't anyone waking her up and spoiling this peace and quiet at the minute.

    Like - we could do without excessive right-wing bigotry...
    Just pathetic and nasty towards someone who hasn't even posted to you I bet.
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,331
    tlg86 said:

    Boris only just voting now.

    Has he only just made up his mind. Or is it a last minute conversion to REMAIN?
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    8.4 may be value on Leave [feels big to me but others may have more info], but there'll almost certainly be greater value later if they're actually in with a shot.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,206

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Less than 30 minutes until polls close!

    More importantly, less then 25 minutes until the Dimbleby graces our televisions with his presence!
    Talking of cathartic departures... It's about time we moved into a new era of BBC political coverage.
    I'm sure the Dimbleclone is being worked on right now.
    He and his brother both have 4 kids each, surely they can train one of them up?
    Of course attendees of Slough comp. Part of Bullingdon as well?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,168
    The YouGov on the day poll is on Sky News at 10pm

    NOT AN EXIT POLL
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,869

    HYUFD said:

    So frustrating. Stuck just outside Banbury now. Am not the only one who is missing out. There are a few of us in the same spot, it seems. Remainers, unfortunately. Or maybe there are some shy Leavers too :-)

    20 mins from Banbury to Leamington by train so you might scrape it but if you commute from Warwickshire to London could you not have got a postal vote?
    You don't need to justify being eligible for a postal vote - you simply ask for one. Easy peasy , I can't understand why everyone doesn't do it.
    If I know I am going to be away I vote by post but I still like the feeling of voting in person at the polling station
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,851
    Ave_it said:

    BE-LEAVE!

    I knew there was something missing. It was Ave_it!
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Ave it (the first on here to call the GE2015 CON maj) says...

    Remain 54%
    Leave 46%

    Boo!
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    WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838

    So what's got everyone so confident of a remain win all of a sudden?

    City wide boys have been piling on all day. They have info we don't.
    Their own private exit polls
    An exit poll in the middle of the day would be very hard to interpret unless it was showing very one-way traffic. You would probably see Leave ahead relatively more retirees would have voted and fewer younger working people. But what sense to make of it?

    An exit poll now is another matter. But Leave is no longer now than at breakfast-time.
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    DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215

    8.4 may be value on Leave [feels big to me but others may have more info], but there'll almost certainly be greater value later if they're actually in with a shot.

    Peak value must be now, if they do have a shot word will soon spread from the counts.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,184

    The YouGov on the day poll is on Sky News at 10pm

    NOT AN EXIT POLL

    Please let it be a Leave lead.. if only to stir things RIGHT up.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,586

    rcs1000 said:

    tyson said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Charles said:

    My wife and daughter have just landed in California.

    At least they'll be safe when we vote leave...

    I hope they were near the front of the plane.

    rcs.....are you still going leave by a big margin?
    I have genuinely no idea what the result will be. However, I expect the winner to get 54+% of the vote.
    Why? I don't see the evidence as to why it should be an 8-point margin either way.
    I don't know. I just suspect it'll not be as close - one way or another - as we think.

    Either groups who don't traditionally vote come out, and Leave wins it at a canter.
    or
    People bottle it in the privacy of the polling booth, and it's the other way around.
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    WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838

    The YouGov on the day poll is on Sky News at 10pm

    NOT AN EXIT POLL

    And total bollocks last year, no?
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,977
    edited June 2016
    matt said:

    HYUFD said:

    @HYUFD

    No way many commuters in Folkestone and Dover were expecting to vote after work: these guys get home late and likely would have voted in the morning before catching their train or voted by post.

    They're still Remain btw. Generally, Leave is strongest among those who don't work/visit/live in proximity to London.

    If you leave work in London at 6pm you will easily get to Folkestone or Dover by 8pm but builders from that area etc could be doing construction work in London and get back late and they may well vote Leave
    FFS please give up. You're wrong and you know it (and if you don't you're a halfwit). Try conceding defeat gracefully.
    Good luck with getting that from the poster supporting Andy Burnham. :-)
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,080

    tlg86 said:

    Boris only just voting now.

    Has he only just made up his mind. Or is it a last minute conversion to REMAIN?
    :smiley:
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,206

    The YouGov on the day poll is on Sky News at 10pm

    NOT AN EXIT POLL

    That was a particular stinker at the GE. They can't do any worse this time.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,168

    8.4 may be value on Leave [feels big to me but others may have more info], but there'll almost certainly be greater value later if they're actually in with a shot.

    Because of Nissan, Sunderland might not as Leave friendly as people think, that might be the best time to back Leave.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,810
    Ave_it said:

    Ave it (the first on here to call the GE2015 CON maj) says...

    Remain 54%
    Leave 46%

    Boo!

    We need a closer result than that. EU needs to be shocked by this.
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    weejonnie said:

    GIN1138 said:

    alex. said:

    It's strange to think big Ben will.strike 10, the election programmed will roll & then we will have to wait 4-5 hrs being they actually start to say anything about the possible result.

    We will surely have a pretty good idea long before that, unless it is VERY close? The fact is that unlike a general election we will be able to deduce something from every result - with the important thing in many cases not being who wins in various areas, but what the turnout is. In General Elections it is the marginal seats which are most important, but that is not the case here. If anything marginal constituencies are very unimportant, because a close race can have a turnout of 10% or 90% and it won't make much difference.
    I think Sunderland will tell us all we need to know (REMAIN will do vastly better than "expected")
    Quite likely - I hope everyone is keyed up to move their position, one way or the other.

    Leave < 50 : pack bags and welcome evermore EU integration
    Leave 50-53: Looks like the Brussels gravy train is back on track.
    Leave 53-54: No fingernails left.
    Leave 54-57: Cameron in stinky bum time
    Leave 57+ : Rejoice.
    Personally, I won't start to get excited unless Sunderland votes at least 62% for LEAVE which now seems very unlikely.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,168
    Wanderer said:

    The YouGov on the day poll is on Sky News at 10pm

    NOT AN EXIT POLL

    And total bollocks last year, no?
    Yup, was fairly accurate at the Indyref though.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,810
    Wanderer said:

    So what's got everyone so confident of a remain win all of a sudden?

    City wide boys have been piling on all day. They have info we don't.
    Their own private exit polls
    An exit poll in the middle of the day would be very hard to interpret unless it was showing very one-way traffic. You would probably see Leave ahead relatively more retirees would have voted and fewer younger working people. But what sense to make of it?

    An exit poll now is another matter. But Leave is no longer now than at breakfast-time.
    Worth remembering most exit polls are Shi'ite. Prior to GE2010 they were taken with a large dose of salt. John Curtice is a political master, who's got it down to a fine art. But he ain't doing these.

    That's significant on a tight result.
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,058
    OK- just a health warning. Considering the newly advised guidance for alcohol consumption is one mediocre glass of wine per day...to get you though to 7.00 am within the advised limit, I would suggest dipping a tissue in the glass and suck out the drips every half an hour.
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