@tnewtondunn: EXCL: David Cameron's former guru Steve Hilton challenges him to a TV debate - as he joins the Vote Leave team; https://t.co/o5lF28BhTF
That's interesting.
Cameron will not do it, but if that is brought up enough times I wonder what mileage it will get.
There is a debate nearly every evening from Monday on. No one outside the bubble has a clue who Steve Hilton is and it simply will not get any traction. After tonight the result will depend on which wins, the economy or immigration, and in most elections 'it is the economy stupid'
It is but people have been genuinely shocked by the immigration numbers.
They have but it would be more of a concern if unemployment was high which it is not at approx 5%
To point to Labour's critique the people who are employed are frequently under employed whilst others (including the BoE) point to weak wage growth. Even Stuart Rose formerly of M&S said wages would rise if we left.
Interesting BBC are going with Gove's positive bits.
As much as I find your WW2 views a bit disconcerting, I do think you are one of the finest minds that pervades this site.
Completely, randomly, I have just eaten 4 bowls of rice crispies within about 10 minutes and feel very greedy.
Well, if I disconcert, I make no apologies. If that makes you think for yourself - rather than echo what the last man said - I'll chalk it up as a gain, whatever your reasoned conclusion happens to be at the end.
Rice Krispies? Childhood seems so long ago for me now, but I remember enjoying them. Didn't mothers used to bake them into a home-made chocolate biscuit-thing?
Me and my mum and my dad all born outside the EU, all voting or leaning LEAVE.
You make a compelling argument to reduce immigration...
RACIST REMAINER
In all seriousness I do wonder whether you have a slightly misplaced sentimentality about Britain which is driving your view on this.
I don't find it odd. I find it quite refreshing to run into people of all backgrounds who think Britain is good. I think it is which is why I am here. I also think the Lebanon is good.
Another Phil Mickelson story (as a fellow marshal this is special, I have my own personal Phil story) -
Phil teed off on the 15th at the Memorial today, and his ball went way right, striking a marshal in the head, then ran all across the fairway, coming to rest in the first cut of rough on the left side.
Phil strides right up to the marshal, says "If your head was softer I'd be in the middle of the fairway!", thanks him for being a marshal and apologizes profusely for hitting him, then shakes his hand and gives him an autographed glove - "I'm so sorry - Phil Mickelson".
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Phil is a class act and Yes I'm a fan.
Another Phil Mickelson story (as a fellow marshal this is special, I have my own personal Phil story) -
Phil teed off on the 15th at the Memorial today, and his ball went way right, striking a marshal in the head, then ran all across the fairway, coming to rest in the first cut of rough on the left side.
Phil strides right up to the marshal, says "If your head was softer I'd be in the middle of the fairway!", thanks him for being a marshal and apologizes profusely for hitting him, then shakes his hand and gives him an autographed glove - "I'm so sorry - Phil Mickelson".
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Phil is a class act and Yes I'm a fan.
On the whole but at the British Open a few years ago I saw him shouting at a spectator for blocking his view
Thank you- I now not only feel a bit greedy, but quite ill. Those poor rats. In my defence, I didn't eat any tea, and went to a gig (James Bay) and came back famished. I'll doubt I'll eat more than one plate of cereal ever again in my life in one sitting.
Rod thinks the holocaust was slightly exaggerated. I tried to tell him once my living Uncle lost entire generations of women in his family- sisters, aunties, grand mother, mother, nieces at Aushwitz. They all entered as live, healthy human beings but quite strangely they all disappeared very quickly. I'm really at a loss of what could have caused this since according to Rod, the Nazi's were not in the business of exterminating Jews.
Voting Leave would be like having voted Labour in 2015. Plenty of feelgood factor about owls for all, but precious little detail on how they actually deliver the owl.
Same with Leave. Super turbo feelgood factor about Cry Freedom! Perhaps (only perhaps) people in the cold light of day will assess that it is too great a risk. Or perhaps not.
All this talk of "risk" about leaving the EU, it's almost like we've never been an independant country...
The benefit to the country of EU membership outweighs the minor inconveniences that we have to put up with by being a member.
Yeah, minor inconveniences like:
Piece rates being driven down Overcrowded schools Maternity services in chaos House prices driven sky high
All critical issues.
Unemployment is the lowest in 30 years, employment the highest for 45 years.
Governments for decades have committed to and then not invested in infrastructure (look at social housing for the obvious poster issue). It hasn't happened and the number of people in the UK growing a bit more or a bit less is a distraction from the failure of successive governments to do so.
58% of all the births in London are now to mums who were born abroad.
Run the cost of that through NHS Maternity care, child protection, welfare payments for families, primary school places and teaching staff.
I've not noticed many Polish builders with BabyBjorns.
64,000 babies born to EU mums each year in the UK.
Barely 10% of the overall birth rate, and many of the fathers will be British citizens. And EU presumably includes Irish?
" and many of the fathers will be British citizens." Citation required.
Well, I'm one of the fathers. Photos of the conception available on request.
The mind boggles - is it not blindingly obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that charging families of dead soldiers for the Chilcott report would look very, very, very bad.
The mind boggles - is it not blindingly obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that charging families of dead soldiers for the Chilcott report would look very, very, very bad.
Another Phil Mickelson story (as a fellow marshal this is special, I have my own personal Phil story) -
Phil teed off on the 15th at the Memorial today, and his ball went way right, striking a marshal in the head, then ran all across the fairway, coming to rest in the first cut of rough on the left side.
Phil strides right up to the marshal, says "If your head was softer I'd be in the middle of the fairway!", thanks him for being a marshal and apologizes profusely for hitting him, then shakes his hand and gives him an autographed glove - "I'm so sorry - Phil Mickelson".
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Phil is a class act and Yes I'm a fan.
On the whole but at the British Open a few years ago I saw him shouting at a spectator for blocking his view
Good for him - the spectator should have known better, and there should have been a marshal there to police the crowd.
By the 'British Open' I assume you mean the 'Open Championship'? (sorry, Pedant took over for a minute).
Me and my mum and my dad all born outside the EU, all voting or leaning LEAVE.
You make a compelling argument to reduce immigration...
RACIST REMAINER
In all seriousness I do wonder whether you have a slightly misplaced sentimentality about Britain which is driving your view on this.
Define "slightly misplaced", please?
BTW, I voted UKIP (for the only time, mind!) as long ago as the Euro Elections in 2014.
Irrational, borne of a desire to be 'more British than the British'.
How fantastically patronising. I suggest you don't go any further down this path.
Patronising AND Racist, for sure.
BTW Sunil means "BLUE"
If I can add some context to what might have caused offence, I've encountered many people (chiefly eastern Europeans) who've settled in this country but at the same time expressed disappointment that it doesn't match up to the Britain of their imaginations, of Mary Poppins, Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie. They complain about the number of immigrants (by which they mean non-white immigrants); they don't understand what has made modern Britain the way it is.
I gather you came here as a child so you're certainly not in that category so I apologise if I've conflated their views with yours.
"Between 2001 and 2012 the number of live births increased by 23%."
Nationality information is within.
The Irish born population in the UK is in steady decline. Foreign born mums and dads broadly at 180,000 each in 2014.
A 23% increase in the birth rate would most likely have profound effects on the costs and resource requirements of the Education, Healthcare and Social Welfare systems.
According to the ONS mothers born in EU countries accounted for well under half of the babies born to mothers born outside the UK in 2014. The middle east and Asia appear to be the leaders with Africa fairly close. Just saying...
The mind boggles - is it not blindingly obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that charging families of dead soldiers for the Chilcott report would look very, very, very bad.
Voting Leave would be like having voted Labour in 2015. Plenty of feelgood factor about owls for all, but precious little detail on how they actually deliver the owl.
Same with Leave. Super turbo feelgood factor about Cry Freedom! Perhaps (only perhaps) people in the cold light of day will assess that it is too great a risk. Or perhaps not.
All this talk of "risk" about leaving the EU, it's almost like we've never been an independant country...
The benefit to the country of EU membership outweighs the minor inconveniences that we have to put up with by being a member.
Yeah, minor inconveniences like:
Piece rates being driven down Overcrowded schools Maternity services in chaos House prices driven sky high
All critical issues.
Unemployment is the lowest in 30 years, employment the highest for 45 years.
Governments for decades have committed to and then not invested in infrastructure (look at social housing for the obvious poster issue). It hasn't happened and the number of people in the UK growing a bit more or a bit less is a distraction from the failure of successive governments to do so.
58% of all the births in London are now to mums who were born abroad.
Run the cost of that through NHS Maternity care, child protection, welfare payments for families, primary school places and teaching staff.
I've not noticed many Polish builders with BabyBjorns.
64,000 babies born to EU mums each year in the UK.
Barely 10% of the overall birth rate, and many of the fathers will be British citizens. And EU presumably includes Irish?
" and many of the fathers will be British citizens." Citation required.
Well, I'm one of the fathers. Photos of the conception available on request.
One of the fathers? Are you in a club for fathers of children whose mother was born in the EU. How many members?
The mind boggles - is it not blindingly obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that charging families of dead soldiers for the Chilcott report would look very, very, very bad.
Voting Leave would be like having voted Labour in 2015. Plenty of feelgood factor about owls for all, but precious little detail on how they actually deliver the owl.
Same with Leave. Super turbo feelgood factor about Cry Freedom! Perhaps (only perhaps) people in the cold light of day will assess that it is too great a risk. Or perhaps not.
All this talk of "risk" about leaving the EU, it's almost like we've never been an independant country...
The benefit to the country of EU membership outweighs the minor inconveniences that we have to put up with by being a member.
Yeah, minor inconveniences like:
Piece rates being driven down Overcrowded schools Maternity services in chaos House prices driven sky high
All critical issues.
Unemployment is the lowest in 30 years, employment the highest for 45 years.
Governments for decades have committed to and then not invested in infrastructure (look at social housing for the obvious poster issue). It hasn't happened and the number of people in the UK growing a bit more or a bit less is a distraction from the failure of successive governments to do so.
58% of all the births in London are now to mums who were born abroad.
Run the cost of that through NHS Maternity care, child protection, welfare payments for families, primary school places and teaching staff.
I've not noticed many Polish builders with BabyBjorns.
64,000 babies born to EU mums each year in the UK.
Barely 10% of the overall birth rate, and many of the fathers will be British citizens. And EU presumably includes Irish?
" and many of the fathers will be British citizens." Citation required.
Well, I'm one of the fathers. Photos of the conception available on request.
Unless you were genuinely taking photographs during the, er, event, I'll assume you mean photographs of the child
The mind boggles - is it not blindingly obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that charging families of dead soldiers for the Chilcott report would look very, very, very bad.
Agreed, why can't they just make a PDF available for download.
They are doing that anyway.
Yes, I know - but the point is they are going to want a properly bound paper copy - and they aren't going to want to have to print out thousands of pages and then buy lever arch files to put it all in.
Another Phil Mickelson story (as a fellow marshal this is special, I have my own personal Phil story) -
Phil teed off on the 15th at the Memorial today, and his ball went way right, striking a marshal in the head, then ran all across the fairway, coming to rest in the first cut of rough on the left side.
Phil strides right up to the marshal, says "If your head was softer I'd be in the middle of the fairway!", thanks him for being a marshal and apologizes profusely for hitting him, then shakes his hand and gives him an autographed glove - "I'm so sorry - Phil Mickelson".
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Phil is a class act and Yes I'm a fan.
On the whole but at the British Open a few years ago I saw him shouting at a spectator for blocking his view
Good for him - the spectator should have known better, and there should have been a marshal there to police the crowd.
By the 'British Open' I assume you mean the 'Open Championship'? (sorry, Pedant took over for a minute).
Must be, since he's not eligible for the British Open.
OK- I'll take my wife. She is Italian. If she told me that she wants tighter immigration to stop more Italians (or other foreigners) coming in- I would find her attitude mean, and selfish, and it would make me think much less of her.
My wife, though like me is open minded. That is why I love her. I couldn't bear her to be narrow minded, and blinkered as the Brexit crowd.
Life is hard enough without living with mean entities around you all day.
Me and my mum and my dad all born outside the EU, all voting or leaning LEAVE.
You make a compelling argument to reduce immigration...
RACIST REMAINER
In all seriousness I do wonder whether you have a slightly misplaced sentimentality about Britain which is driving your view on this.
I don't find it odd. I find it quite refreshing to run into people of all backgrounds who think Britain is good. I think it is which is why I am here. I also think the Lebanon is good.
Me and my mum and my dad all born outside the EU, all voting or leaning LEAVE.
You make a compelling argument to reduce immigration...
RACIST REMAINER
In all seriousness I do wonder whether you have a slightly misplaced sentimentality about Britain which is driving your view on this.
Define "slightly misplaced", please?
BTW, I voted UKIP (for the only time, mind!) as long ago as the Euro Elections in 2014.
Irrational, borne of a desire to be 'more British than the British'.
How fantastically patronising. I suggest you don't go any further down this path.
Patronising AND Racist, for sure.
BTW Sunil means "BLUE"
If I can add some context to what might have caused offence, I've encountered many people (chiefly eastern Europeans) who've settled in this country but at the same time expressed disappointment that it doesn't match up to the Britain of their imaginations, of Mary Poppins, Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie. They complain about the number of immigrants (by which they mean non-white immigrants); they don't understand what has made modern Britain the way it is.
I gather you came here as a child so you're certainly not in that category so I apologise if I've conflated their views with yours.
No real offence taken!
When I first arrived in Blighty in 1976, I knew NOT A WORD of English! Strange, but true! But it can be explained by me being only 4 months old...
Voting Leave would be like having voted Labour in 2015. Plenty of feelgood factor about owls for all, but precious little detail on how they actually deliver the owl.
Same with Leave. Super turbo feelgood factor about Cry Freedom! Perhaps (only perhaps) people in the cold light of day will assess that it is too great a risk. Or perhaps not.
All this talk of "risk" about leaving the EU, it's almost like we've never been an independant country...
The benefit to the country of EU membership outweighs the minor inconveniences that we have to put up with by being a member.
Yeah, minor inconveniences like:
Piece rates being driven down Overcrowded schools Maternity services in chaos House prices driven sky high
All critical issues.
Unemployment is the lowest in 30 years, employment the highest for 45 years.
Governments for decades have committed to and then not invested in infrastructure (look at social housing for the obvious poster issue). It hasn't happened and the number of people in the UK growing a bit more or a bit less is a distraction from the failure of successive governments to do so.
58% of all the births in London are now to mums who were born abroad.
Run the cost of that through NHS Maternity care, child protection, welfare payments for families, primary school places and teaching staff.
I've not noticed many Polish builders with BabyBjorns.
64,000 babies born to EU mums each year in the UK.
Barely 10% of the overall birth rate, and many of the fathers will be British citizens. And EU presumably includes Irish?
" and many of the fathers will be British citizens." Citation required.
Well, I'm one of the fathers. Photos of the conception available on request.
One of the fathers? Are you in a club for fathers of children whose mother was born in the EU. How many members?
Since the UK is an EU member, I'm guessing around 648,000
Thank you- I now not only feel a bit greedy, but quite ill. Those poor rats. In my defence, I didn't eat any tea, and went to a gig (James Bay) and came back famished. I'll doubt I'll eat more than one plate of cereal ever again in my life in one sitting.
Rod thinks the holocaust was slightly exaggerated. I tried to tell him once my living Uncle lost entire generations of women in his family- sisters, aunties, grand mother, mother, nieces at Aushwitz. They all entered as live, healthy human beings but quite strangely they all disappeared very quickly. I'm really at a loss of what could have caused this since according to Rod, the Nazi's were not in the business of exterminating Jews.
Thank you- I now not only feel a bit greedy, but quite ill. Those poor rats. In my defence, I didn't eat any tea, and went to a gig (James Bay) and came back famished. I'll doubt I'll eat more than one plate of cereal ever again in my life in one sitting.
Rod thinks the holocaust was slightly exaggerated. I tried to tell him once my living Uncle lost entire generations of women in his family- sisters, aunties, grand mother, mother, nieces at Aushwitz. They all entered as live, healthy human beings but quite strangely they all disappeared very quickly. I'm really at a loss of what could have caused this since according to Rod, the Nazi's were not in the business of exterminating Jews.
The mind boggles - is it not blindingly obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that charging families of dead soldiers for the Chilcott report would look very, very, very bad.
The problem is that the MOD is at best a useless bunch of insensitive w*nkers, and at worst, much worse. That said that was the inquiry's idea though originally apparently.
The mind boggles - is it not blindingly obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that charging families of dead soldiers for the Chilcott report would look very, very, very bad.
The mind boggles - is it not blindingly obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that charging families of dead soldiers for the Chilcott report would look very, very, very bad.
OK- I'll take my wife. She is Italian. If she told me that she wants tighter immigration to stop more Italians (or other foreigners) coming in- I would find her attitude mean, and selfish, and it would make me think much less of her.
My wife, though like me is open minded. That is why I love her. I couldn't bear her to be narrow minded, and blinkered as the Brexit crowd.
Life is hard enough without living with mean entities around you all day.
Me and my mum and my dad all born outside the EU, all voting or leaning LEAVE.
You make a compelling argument to reduce immigration...
RACIST REMAINER
In all seriousness I do wonder whether you have a slightly misplaced sentimentality about Britain which is driving your view on this.
I don't find it odd. I find it quite refreshing to run into people of all backgrounds who think Britain is good. I think it is which is why I am here. I also think the Lebanon is good.
You are the opposite of open minded. You are utterly intolerant of ideas you do not currently hold.
The most important sort of diversity in any society is intellectual. You prefer a superficial diversity that extends to restaurants and racial diversity, but no further.
OK- I'll take my wife. She is Italian. If she told me that she wants tighter immigration to stop more Italians (or other foreigners) coming in- I would find her attitude mean, and selfish, and it would make me think much less of her.
My wife, though like me is open minded. That is why I love her. I couldn't bear her to be narrow minded, and blinkered as the Brexit crowd.
Life is hard enough without living with mean entities around you all day.
Me and my mum and my dad all born outside the EU, all voting or leaning LEAVE.
You make a compelling argument to reduce immigration...
RACIST REMAINER
In all seriousness I do wonder whether you have a slightly misplaced sentimentality about Britain which is driving your view on this.
I don't find it odd. I find it quite refreshing to run into people of all backgrounds who think Britain is good. I think it is which is why I am here. I also think the Lebanon is good.
So you think people who want to control immigration are mean?
"Between 2001 and 2012 the number of live births increased by 23%."
Nationality information is within.
The Irish born population in the UK is in steady decline. Foreign born mums and dads broadly at 180,000 each in 2014.
A 23% increase in the birth rate would most likely have profound effects on the costs and resource requirements of the Education, Healthcare and Social Welfare systems.
According to the ONS mothers born in EU countries accounted for well under half of the babies born to mothers born outside the UK in 2014. The middle east and Asia appear to be the leaders with Africa fairly close. Just saying...
That is my experience in our maternity unit in Leicester. The fertility rate of non-EU migrants is high compared to EU migrants.
The highest rates are in Nigerian and Pakistani born women (140 births per 1000 women) with Bangladesh at 110, India and Poland at 95 and UK born at 60.
OK- I'll take my wife. She is Italian. If she told me that she wants tighter immigration to stop more Italians (or other foreigners) coming in- I would find her attitude mean, and selfish, and it would make me think much less of her.
My wife, though like me is open minded. That is why I love her. I couldn't bear her to be narrow minded, and blinkered as the Brexit crowd.
Life is hard enough without living with mean entities around you all day.
Me and my mum and my dad all born outside the EU, all voting or leaning LEAVE.
You make a compelling argument to reduce immigration...
RACIST REMAINER
In all seriousness I do wonder whether you have a slightly misplaced sentimentality about Britain which is driving your view on this.
I don't find it odd. I find it quite refreshing to run into people of all backgrounds who think Britain is good. I think it is which is why I am here. I also think the Lebanon is good.
Perhaps you should be a little more open minded yourself. I am not right wing because I like laughing at poor people. I am right wing because I genuinely believe that the 'right wing' solutions are likelier to guarantee prosperity and societal harmony, and by so doing make people happier, in the long term. If I could be convinced that we could tax, spend, and regulate our way to a happy and prosperous society, with no pain for anyone, I'd sign up on the spot - who wouldn't? Nobody relishes being the Abanazar of politics. But socialism doesn't work. It has never worked - logic can show it cannot work. Instead it causes greater misery in the long term.
So you carry on emoting and sucking up all the cheap 'compassion' so there's none left for anyone else, and the narrow minded, blinkered Brexit people will get on with trying to save our country.
OK- I'll take my wife. She is Italian. If she told me that she wants tighter immigration to stop more Italians (or other foreigners) coming in- I would find her attitude mean, and selfish, and it would make me think much less of her.
My wife, though like me is open minded. That is why I love her. I couldn't bear her to be narrow minded, and blinkered as the Brexit crowd.
Life is hard enough without living with mean entities around you all day.
Me and my mum and my dad all born outside the EU, all voting or leaning LEAVE.
You make a compelling argument to reduce immigration...
RACIST REMAINER
In all seriousness I do wonder whether you have a slightly misplaced sentimentality about Britain which is driving your view on this.
I don't find it odd. I find it quite refreshing to run into people of all backgrounds who think Britain is good. I think it is which is why I am here. I also think the Lebanon is good.
So you think people who want to control immigration are mean?
Well he thinks Norwich is to white and he thinks the gangs of young asylum seeking men hanging around his area in Italy would be better off over here,of course he thinks people who want control are mean or racist.
OK- I'll take my wife. She is Italian. If she told me that she wants tighter immigration to stop more Italians (or other foreigners) coming in- I would find her attitude mean, and selfish, and it would make me think much less of her.
My wife, though like me is open minded. That is why I love her. I couldn't bear her to be narrow minded, and blinkered as the Brexit crowd.
Life is hard enough without living with mean entities around you all day.
Me and my mum and my dad all born outside the EU, all voting or leaning LEAVE.
You make a compelling argument to reduce immigration...
RACIST REMAINER
In all seriousness I do wonder whether you have a slightly misplaced sentimentality about Britain which is driving your view on this.
I don't find it odd. I find it quite refreshing to run into people of all backgrounds who think Britain is good. I think it is which is why I am here. I also think the Lebanon is good.
So you think people who want to control immigration are mean?
Well he thinks Norwich is to white and he thinks the gangs of young asylum seeking men hanging around his area in Italy would be better off over here,of course he thinks people who want control are mean or racist.
Another Phil Mickelson story (as a fellow marshal this is special, I have my own personal Phil story) -
Phil teed off on the 15th at the Memorial today, and his ball went way right, striking a marshal in the head, then ran all across the fairway, coming to rest in the first cut of rough on the left side.
Phil strides right up to the marshal, says "If your head was softer I'd be in the middle of the fairway!", thanks him for being a marshal and apologizes profusely for hitting him, then shakes his hand and gives him an autographed glove - "I'm so sorry - Phil Mickelson".
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Phil is a class act and Yes I'm a fan.
On the whole but at the British Open a few years ago I saw him shouting at a spectator for blocking his view
Good for him - the spectator should have known better, and there should have been a marshal there to police the crowd.
By the 'British Open' I assume you mean the 'Open Championship'? (sorry, Pedant took over for a minute).
The Open yes, not that there is another British Open anyway
Voting Leave would be like having voted Labour in 2015. Plenty of feelgood factor about owls for all, but precious little detail on how they actually deliver the owl.
Same with Leave. Super turbo feelgood factor about Cry Freedom! Perhaps (only perhaps) people in the cold light of day will assess that it is too great a risk. Or perhaps not.
All this talk of "risk" about leaving the EU, it's almost like we've never been an independant country...
The benefit to the country of EU membership outweighs the minor inconveniences that we have to put up with by being a member.
Yeah, minor inconveniences like:
Piece rates being driven down Overcrowded schools Maternity services in chaos House prices driven sky high
All critical issues.
Unemployment is the lowest in 30 years, employment the highest for 45 years.
Governments for decades have committed to and then not invested in infrastructure (look at social housing for the obvious poster issue). It hasn't happened and the number of people in the UK growing a bit more or a bit less is a distraction from the failure of successive governments to do so.
Unemployment is 1.7 million in the UK and around 6% even in London. If we can cut immigration it could become even lower.
On a like for like basis withe 1970s and 80s it is much higher. If those currently on Training Schemes and now forced to stay at school until 18 several hundred thousand would be added to the headline figures.In addition, many of those on ESA /Incapacity Benefit/PIP would have been classed as uneployed thirty years ago. The total -after removing all the intervening adjiustments - would be over 2.5 million.
So you carry on emoting and sucking up all the cheap 'compassion' so there's none left for anyone else, and the narrow minded, blinkered Brexit people will get on with trying to save our country.
OK- I'll take my wife. She is Italian. If she told me that she wants tighter immigration to stop more Italians (or other foreigners) coming in- I would find her attitude mean, and selfish, and it would make me think much less of her.
My wife, though like me is open minded. That is why I love her. I couldn't bear her to be narrow minded, and blinkered as the Brexit crowd.
Life is hard enough without living with mean entities around you all day.
Me and my mum and my dad all born outside the EU, all voting or leaning LEAVE.
You make a compelling argument to reduce immigration...
RACIST REMAINER
In all seriousness I do wonder whether you have a slightly misplaced sentimentality about Britain which is driving your view on this.
I don't find it odd. I find it quite refreshing to run into people of all backgrounds who think Britain is good. I think it is which is why I am here. I also think the Lebanon is good.
So you think people who want to control immigration are mean?
Countries that don't control their borders are mean to genuine refugees. Those that are in control can afford to be generous, as they have their ability to prioritise refugees over economic migrants. That's 25,000 Syrian refugees resettled in Canada in the space of four months. We have admitted 1,602 over the previous six.
OK- I'll take my wife. She is Italian. If she told me that she wants tighter immigration to stop more Italians (or other foreigners) coming in- I would find her attitude mean, and selfish, and it would make me think much less of her.
My wife, though like me is open minded. That is why I love her. I couldn't bear her to be narrow minded, and blinkered as the Brexit crowd.
Life is hard enough without living with mean entities around you all day.
Me and my mum and my dad all born outside the EU, all voting or leaning LEAVE.
You make a compelling argument to reduce immigration...
RACIST REMAINER
In all seriousness I do wonder whether you have a slightly misplaced sentimentality about Britain which is driving your view on this.
I don't find it odd. I find it quite refreshing to run into people of all backgrounds who think Britain is good. I think it is which is why I am here. I also think the Lebanon is good.
So you think people who want to control immigration are mean?
Countries that don't control their borders are mean to genuine refugees. Those that are in control can afford to be generous, as they have their ability to prioritise refugees over economic migrants. That's 25,000 Syrian refugees resettled in Canada in the space of four months. We have admitted 1,602 over the previous six.
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There is a huge issue people have with being governed by people they don't know and can't see or throw out.
Rice Krispies? Childhood seems so long ago for me now, but I remember enjoying them.
Didn't mothers used to bake them into a home-made chocolate biscuit-thing?
BTW Sunil means "BLUE"
Phil teed off on the 15th at the Memorial today, and his ball went way right, striking a marshal in the head, then ran all across the fairway, coming to rest in the first cut of rough on the left side.
Phil strides right up to the marshal, says "If your head was softer I'd be in the middle of the fairway!", thanks him for being a marshal and apologizes profusely for hitting him, then shakes his hand and gives him an autographed glove - "I'm so sorry - Phil Mickelson".
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Phil is a class act and Yes I'm a fan.
In my defence, I didn't eat any tea, and went to a gig (James Bay) and came back famished. I'll doubt I'll eat more than one plate of cereal ever again in my life in one sitting.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/03/chilcot-report-iraq-war-soldiers-families-free-copy-david-cameron-intervenes
By the 'British Open' I assume you mean the 'Open Championship'? (sorry, Pedant took over for a minute).
I gather you came here as a child so you're certainly not in that category so I apologise if I've conflated their views with yours.
How many members?
But it's officially Redbridge in Bloom (though as Ilford is the biggest town, I guess it really should be Ilford in Bloom).
Unfortunately, building work means we won't be entering this year
https://twitter.com/Cartoon4sale/status/738793517665931264
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/eu-referendum/referendum-on-eu-membership-result?selectionName=leave
My wife, though like me is open minded. That is why I love her. I couldn't bear her to be narrow minded, and blinkered as the Brexit crowd.
Life is hard enough without living with mean entities around you all day.
When I first arrived in Blighty in 1976, I knew NOT A WORD of English! Strange, but true! But it can be explained by me being only 4 months old...
This is the sort of time I'd quite like to win the lottery to change the world. (And make some money at it)
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The most important sort of diversity in any society is intellectual. You prefer a superficial diversity that extends to restaurants and racial diversity, but no further.
The highest rates are in Nigerian and Pakistani born women (140 births per 1000 women) with Bangladesh at 110, India and Poland at 95 and UK born at 60.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/http://ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/fertility-analysis/childbearing-of-uk-and-non-uk-born-women-living-in-the-uk/2011/childbearing-among-uk-born-and-non-uk-born-women-living-in-the-uk.html
Overcrowded maternity units and schools are mostly a product of non-EU migration.
So you carry on emoting and sucking up all the cheap 'compassion' so there's none left for anyone else, and the narrow minded, blinkered Brexit people will get on with trying to save our country.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/welcome/