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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    RobD said:

    MikeL said:

    Are English councils only electing one third of seats?

    BBC has not said so.

    Yet if that's right it's key to why so few councils are changing hands.

    Most are, some aren't. Exeter is all up for instance.
    Labour have gained 3 from Tories in Exeter IIRC
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Tories hold Ayr by 750 votes.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    MarqueeMark said:

    Artist said:

    Why are the BBC talking about Eastwood like it was a big shock

    Because they are turnips?
    Remember 1997 was year zero as far as the beeb were concerned! Tories hold ayr.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @Ruth_E_Davidson: John Scott holds Ayr. Go on that man!
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Ayrshire Turnips Surge !!!!
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Ed Conway @EdConwaySky

    Fascinating: the Conservatives have raised their share of the vote in every Scot Parl seat declared thus far, save for Orkney
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    JackW said:

    Ayrshire Turnips Surge !!!!

    ROFL
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2016/scotland/results

    CON closing in on LAB.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Nicola talking down a majority...
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,883
    Interesting Nicola not sounding confident about getting a majority.
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    edited May 2016
    NumbrCrunchrPolitics @NCPoliticsUK

    CON HOLD AYR by 750 votes
    CON: 43.0% (+4.1) SNP: 41.0% (+5.4) LAB: 14.0% (-9.3) LDEM: 1.9% (-0.2)
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Scottish Root Vegetables On The March
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Two results in Birmingham still to come: Soho and Springfield.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,403
    Roseanna Cunningham hanging on in Perthshire. Really close.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Plato_Says said:

    RobD said:

    MikeL said:

    Are English councils only electing one third of seats?

    BBC has not said so.

    Yet if that's right it's key to why so few councils are changing hands.

    Most are, some aren't. Exeter is all up for instance.
    Labour have gained 3 from Tories in Exeter IIRC
    New wards there. Not sure how they calculate the previous results.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,054
    Seems like quite a few labour gains in the south. Not enough to make up for bad night elsewhere bur enough to save a smidgeon of face in England at least?
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    General Election @UKGE2020

    After 3 of 40 constituencies

    LAB 42% (-7.8%)
    CON 27.9% (-3.8%)
    UKIP 15.3% (+15.3%)
    PLAID C 9.1% (-1.3%)
    LD 5% (-1.6%)
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Springfield is doing a recount.
    AndyJS said:

    Two results in Birmingham still to come: Soho and Springfield.

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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    Tories second in Scotland! At least on vote share, and with the current number of seats declared.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Me Grayling has the most monotone voice on the radio!
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    edited May 2016
    SNP down 10% in Perthshire S?
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    edited May 2016
    15pc snp to tory swing in moray
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    FattyBolgerFattyBolger Posts: 299
    hunchman said:

    Me Grayling has the most monotone voice on the radio!

    Go to sleep
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    SNP vote down 18% in Moray .... Turnips up significantly.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    hunchman said:

    15pc snp to tory seeing in moray

    That's a swing I can get behind.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @britainelects: Perthshire South and Kinross-shire:
    SNP: 42.1% (-9.4)
    CON: 38.2% (+9.7)
    LAB: 9.9% (-2.9)
    LDEM: 8.3% (+1.0)
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Britain Elects @britainelects

    Vale of Clwyd (Welsh Assembly)
    LAB: 39.5% (-11.2)
    CON: 36.4% (-3.0)
    UKIP: 12.3% (+12.3)
    PLAID: 8.7% (-2.6)
    LDEM: 3.1% (-1.6)

    Britain Elects @britainelects

    Perthshire South and Kinross-shire:
    SNP: 42.1% (-9.4)
    CON: 38.2% (+9.7)
    LAB: 9.9% (-2.9)
    LDEM: 8.3% (+1.0)
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JamieRoss7: There are some rumblings that Ruth Davidson has come very close in the Edinburgh Central constituency, and may have even just nabbed it.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,316
    Mann: Lab 3rd in Scotland would be CATACLYSMIC.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    Very good night for Con in Coventry 5 seats out of the 6 realistic targets
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,403
    Moray 15% swing from SNP to Tory. Amazing
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2016
    A lot of councils are counting tomorrow so it may be too early to form a definitive view on how things are going based on the results so far.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,789
    Scott_P said:

    @britainelects: Perthshire South and Kinross-shire:
    SNP: 42.1% (-9.4)
    CON: 38.2% (+9.7)
    LAB: 9.9% (-2.9)
    LDEM: 8.3% (+1.0)

    That should be a wake up call......the mighty SNP facing its first intimations of mortality
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @philipjcowley: Of those Scottish seats declared so far, Lab has polled 141,000 votes. Cons on 136,000.
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    !!!!!

    Philip Cowley @philipjcowley

    Of those Scottish seats declared so far, Lab has polled 141,000 votes. Cons on 136,000.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Rennie Wins
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Rennie wins
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @britainelects: Falkirk East (Scottish Parliament)
    SNP: 51.4% (+0.6)
    LAB: 25.9% (-12.4)
    CON: 19.5% (+11.1)
    LDEM: 3.2% (+0.7)
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,403
    Rennie wins NE Fife for the Lib Dems. That majority is starting to look just a little less certain. Probable but not certain. I really expected the SNP to hold that.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2016
    LDs gain NE Fife from the SNP.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/journostephen/status/728409660336820224
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,883
    Another great result for the Lib Dems in Scotland.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    AndreaParma_82 said:

    Rennie wins

    LD gain?? Who saw that coming?
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    DavidL said:

    Moray 15% swing from SNP to Tory. Amazing

    It's a very strong trend across the board - Kezia clearly missed the threat from the Tories
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    AndreaParma_82 said:

    Rennie wins

    JackW beats Andrea to the draw shocker !!!!!!!!!
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,316
    edited May 2016
    Scotland (after 24 seats):

    Con 22.2
    Lab 21.9
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @murdo_fraser: Stunning result for @MspLiz in Perthshire South & Kinross-shire slashing SNP majority to 1400 @ScotTories

    The Pete Wishart effect...
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Swansea East

    Lab 52.1 (-6.2)
    UKIP 15.9 (+15.9)
    Plaid 13.3 (+0.9=
    Con 8.4 (-6.2)
    LD 7.6 (-1.2)
    Green 2.6
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    Scott_P said:

    @murdo_fraser: Stunning result for @MspLiz in Perthshire South & Kinross-shire slashing SNP majority to 1400 @ScotTories

    The Pete Wishart effect...

    What did he do? lol
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    you're geographically closer!!
    JackW said:

    AndreaParma_82 said:

    Rennie wins

    JackW beats Andrea to the draw shocker !!!!!!!!!
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,403
    Labour holds a seat. Anything is possible tonight.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @BBCsarahsmith: Labour hold a seat in Scotland! Ian Gray in East Lothian. Their first of the night
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,146
    I reckon the Tory powers-that-be would trade the London mayoralty for dropping Labour into third place in Scotland? If only for the shits and giggles...
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    MikeL said:

    Scotland (after 24 seats):

    Con 22.2
    Lab 21.9

    Surely Labour are going to be easily beaten into third place on those figures.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    IAIN GRAY HOLD EAST LOTHIAN hahahahahaha
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Current state of English Council seats (3.24am) Lab 601 (-34) Con 350 (+10) LDs 133 (+9) Indy 32 (-5) UKIP 26 (+20) Grn 8 (0) OTH 4 (0)
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    edited May 2016
    "What did he do? lol
    He just is. Perth was one of the biggest NO results of the Indyref :)
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,789
    DavidL said:

    Rennie wins NE Fife for the Lib Dems. That majority is starting to look just a little less certain. Probable but not certain. I really expected the SNP to hold that.

    Majority or not some of their MSPs will have been given a jolly good fright.

    How to respond?

    More INDEPENDENCE NOW or less?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @britainelects: Angus South (Scottish Parliament)
    SNP: 48.9% (-9.5)
    CON: 35.4% (+15.3)
    LAB: 11.8% (-1.6)
    LDEM: 3.8% (+0.6)
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    Scott_P said:

    @britainelects: Angus South (Scottish Parliament)
    SNP: 48.9% (-9.5)
    CON: 35.4% (+15.3)
    LAB: 11.8% (-1.6)
    LDEM: 3.8% (+0.6)

    More SNP-CON swings. :D
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    AndreaParma_82 said:

    you're geographically closer!!

    JackW said:

    AndreaParma_82 said:

    Rennie wins

    JackW beats Andrea to the draw shocker !!!!!!!!!
    It's the speed of light broadband at Auchentennach .... :smile:
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Massive swings from SNP to Tories in places like Perth and Moray.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,403
    CarlottaVance said:

    DavidL said:

    Rennie wins NE Fife for the Lib Dems. That majority is starting to look just a little less certain. Probable but not certain. I really expected the SNP to hold that.

    Majority or not some of their MSPs will have been given a jolly good fright.

    How to respond?

    More INDEPENDENCE NOW or less?
    The results in Moray and South Perthshire will have shaken them almost as much as Rennie's win.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    AndyJS said:

    Massive swings from SNP to Tories in places like Perth and Moray.

    Tories up 15%. Glorious.
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    MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    Portsmouth final results very good for Lib Dems

    LD 9 Con 4 Lab 1

    LD gain Nelson from Labour
    Conservatives gain Cosham from Labour elected as Lib Dem

    2014 result Con 5 LD 3 UKIP 6
    2015 result Con 9 LD 4 Lab 1

    Lib Dems to take control in 2017
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @faisalislam: So, that certain SNP majority???
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    Looks Great for Con good for Lib Dem below par SNP poor Labour in Scotland
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    edited May 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    Looks Great for Con good for Lib Dem below par SNP poor Labour in Scotland

    I don't think great is a sufficient superlative. :D
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,054
    AndreaParma_82 said:

    IAIN GRAY HOLD EAST LOTHIAN hahahahahaha

    Ruins a good headline that.

    In all honesty apart from Scotland I feel underwhelmed, I don't have a sense of how bad things really may be for Labour elsewhere.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/728411251672502273
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    edited May 2016
    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/728411251672502273

    Glorious :sunglasses:
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @britainelects: Midlothian North and Musselburgh:
    SNP: 48.9% (+1.6)
    LAB: 28.6% (-8.6)
    CON: 18.1% (+9.5)
    LDEM: 4.5% (+0.3)
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @jamesmatthewsky: Edinburgh Central (Ruth Davidson) close - bundles of votes looking very even. Recount? #SP16
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    Tories up 18 per cent in Moray. OMG
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    AndreaParma_82 said:

    IAIN GRAY HOLD EAST LOTHIAN hahahahahaha

    Annoying!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2016
    Looks like a lot of Scots are finally tiring of Sturgeon and the SNP, (outside the Glasgow area).
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Another big swing to UKIP in Merthyr Tydfil.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,054
    AndyJS said:

    Looks like a lot of Scots are finally tiring of Sturgeon and the SNP, (outside the Glasgow area).

    A lot seems to be pushing it
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    Ruth Davidson ran a very positive campaign in Scotland.

    Looks like she will outperform Zac's piss poor London effort
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,316
    Scottish independence surely less likely after tonight - even with Brexit.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    kle4 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Looks like a lot of Scots are finally tiring of Sturgeon and the SNP, (outside the Glasgow area).

    A lot seems to be pushing it
    Peak SNP? :p
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    RobD said:

    Tories up 18 per cent in Moray. OMG

    Unionist vote organising itself against the snp particularly where tories or lib dems clear leader. Labour areas much less clear thanks to their incompetence.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    6% swing from SNP to Tory in Inverness.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    hunchman said:

    RobD said:

    Tories up 18 per cent in Moray. OMG

    Unionist vote organising itself against the snp particularly where tories or lib dems clear leader. Labour areas much less clear thanks to their incompetence.
    The other two are only down 1 and 2 points. SNP down 12.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @HTScotPol: Tories have won Dumfriesshire, according to sources at #edinccount. Defeat for SNP's Joan McAlpine
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Wrexham continue its trend towards the Tories.

    Lab -7.7
    Con +3.7

    Lab hold with majority of 6.5%
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    .Labour lose Dudley council to NOC, Tories gain Peterborough
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    AndyJS said:

    Looks like a lot of Scots are finally tiring of Sturgeon and the SNP, (outside the Glasgow area).

    Named person act may have something to do with it. About the worst thing the snp have done that. And I say that as someone who wishes to see an independent Scotland.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    Scott_P said:

    @HTScotPol: Tories have won Dumfriesshire, according to sources at #edinccount. Defeat for SNP's Joan McAlpine

    Another gain :D
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Plato_Says said:

    .Labour lose Dudley council to NOC, Tories gain Peterborough

    Those early council results were flattering Labour a tad.
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    fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,279
    RobD said:

    Tories up 18 per cent in Moray. OMG

    Amazing result for Douglas Ross in Moray, and in Angus Robertson's backyard! But its the Scots Conservative % increase in vote in those Labour heartland constituency seats which is utterly amazing so far!
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Stirling - Con up 13%
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,403
    hunchman said:

    RobD said:

    Tories up 18 per cent in Moray. OMG

    Unionist vote organising itself against the snp particularly where tories or lib dems clear leader. Labour areas much less clear thanks to their incompetence.
    I think that is exactly it.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Merthyr

    Lab 47.2%
    UKIP 20.7%
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2016
    Rumour that Ruth Davidson may have triumphed in Edinburgh Central!!!!!
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    DavidL said:

    hunchman said:

    RobD said:

    Tories up 18 per cent in Moray. OMG

    Unionist vote organising itself against the snp particularly where tories or lib dems clear leader. Labour areas much less clear thanks to their incompetence.
    I think that is exactly it.
    But that doesn't match the change in the share in Moray.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Tomorrow looking like a good day overall

    Sadiq Khan
    (Election Winner)
    33/1
    2016 London Mayoral Election

    Conservatives
    (Most seats (without SNP))
    5/4
    2016 Scottish Parliamentary Elections

    And I took this as well

    No Overall Majority
    (Outright Majority)
    8/1
    2016 Scottish Parliamentary Elections
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,403
    Could really do with some Edinburgh results. And Dumfriesshire natch.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Mhairi Black looks like she's chewing a nettle on Sky.

    Joyous. And Civic...
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Con saying they have won't Dumfriesshire
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