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  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    La-Mont very demoralized
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287
    Glorious Eastwood news. Waiting for BBC to show us the declaration.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Con wins Eastwood
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @NCPoliticsUK: CON gains Eastwood from LAB on a 6% swing. LAB drops to third.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Scottish Tory Surge KLAXON !!!
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    RobD said:

    Glorious Eastwood news. Waiting for BBC to show us the declaration.

    FPT: Wow - nearly 25 years on after Allan Stewart last won that seat for the Tories
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287
    Scott_P said:

    Scottish Tory Surge KLAXON !!!

    BBC clearly can't hear it :p
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,177
    WELL DONE SCOTCONS!
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Scott_P said:

    Scottish Tory Surge KLAXON !!!

    Where have all the Scottish Tories on here gone - calling Fitalass, Fitaloon and all those other Scottish Tory surge merchants......where are they?!!
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @ScotTories: In both Kilmarnock and Greenock, the Conservative vote has doubled #SP16
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Scott_P said:

    @NCPoliticsUK: CON gains Eastwood from LAB on a 6% swing. LAB drops to third.

    In view of the result the Jewish vote in the seat may been significant in the Con gain.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    First declaration from Welsh Assembly

    Alyn and Deeside

    Lab 45.7
    Con 21
    UKIP 17.4
    Plaid 9
    LD 4.5

    Changes
    Lab -6.9
    Con -7.1
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Greenock & Inverclyde: SNP gain from Lab
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,893
    Why are the BBC talking about Eastwood like it was a big shock
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822

    Britain Elects @britainelects

    Alyn & Deeside result (Welsh Assembly):
    LAB: 45.7% (-4.8)
    CON: 21.0% (-6.0)
    UKIP: 17.4% (+17.4)
    LDEM: 4.5% (-2.8)
    GRN: 2.4% (+2.4)
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287
    Artist said:

    Why are the BBC talking about Eastwood like it was a big shock

    Cause they think the Tories are crap? :p
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    How is that possible? We are regularly assured "There are no Tories in Scotland"?
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    I think the Scots need educating not only on what goes on at 788 790 Finchley Road but at 50 Lothian Road Edinburgh too.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Results starting to pour in a bit more now SNP gain Greenock from Labour with a whopping 8,230 majority. Not going well for Labour...
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,177
    Who knew, tax rise promises are as unpopular in Scotland as elsewhere....
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,786
    Come on Dumfriesshire, I want to go to bed.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    ScotConservatives @ScotTories

    In both Kilmarnock and Greenock, the Conservative vote has doubled #SP16
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Eastwood

    Con 35.7
    SNP 31.2
    Lab 30.6
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Labour down 16% in Greenock and Inverclyde - ouch
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Alyn and Deeside - Lab / Tory / LD all down, Plaid up, UKIP massively up
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,786

    ScotConservatives @ScotTories

    In both Kilmarnock and Greenock, the Conservative vote has doubled #SP16

    The Conservative constituency share is currently 19% and is likely to go up when you consider what seats have declared. Big improvement but Labour still ahead. If that is reflected on the list then Labour will recover some of their losses there.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @libby_brooks: Pretty astonishing that it seems Labour has been pushed into third place in Glasgow Kelvin #Holyrood2016
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @NCPoliticsUK: SNP HOLD East Kilbride. LAB to CON swing was 13%. Tories will be feeling quietly confident.

    @AlanRoden: Senior Tories now absolutely confident of second-place finish, with Labour in third. Remarkable. #sp16
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287
    Scott_P said:

    @libby_brooks: Pretty astonishing that it seems Labour has been pushed into third place in Glasgow Kelvin #Holyrood2016

    Blimey. Previous results:

    SNP 10,640
    Labour 9,758
    Liberal Democrats 1,900
    Conservative 1,845
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @craigmcangus: Pattern developing: Conservative vote roughly doubling amid turnout increasing in West & Central Scotland. Bodes well for them on list #sp16
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    Mortimer said:

    Who knew, tax rise promises are as unpopular in Scotland as elsewhere....

    Contrary to nationalist myth-making (of both the SNP and Labour), Scots are not more progressive than English voters. They don't like high taxes. They don't want their freebies taken off them. They like parties that play it safe rather than parties that want to change the world.

    http://stv.tv/news/politics/1353088-live-all-the-results-and-latest-from-the-scottish-election-part-1/?blockgroupid=158934
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Scott_P said:

    @NCPoliticsUK: SNP HOLD East Kilbride. LAB to CON swing was 13%. Tories will be feeling quietly confident.

    @AlanRoden: Senior Tories now absolutely confident of second-place finish, with Labour in third. Remarkable. #sp16

    I'd like to have seen the derision on here if someone had stated 6 years ago in the aftermath of the 2010GE election results that that would happen! Sometimes as is the case in the markets, what seem like crazy predictions are often the best! Amazing as you say.

    Ruth Davidson has performed a master stroke to return the Tory party in Scotland to its Unionist pre-1965 and pre-Ted Heath roots, as much as I would like to see an independent Scotland myself.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,177

    Mortimer said:

    Who knew, tax rise promises are as unpopular in Scotland as elsewhere....

    Contrary to nationalist myth-making (of both the SNP and Labour), Scots are not more progressive than English voters. They don't like high taxes. They don't want their freebies taken off them. They like parties that play it safe rather than parties that want to change the world.

    http://stv.tv/news/politics/1353088-live-all-the-results-and-latest-from-the-scottish-election-part-1/?blockgroupid=158934
    Not exactly rocket science is it!
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    edited May 2016
    Matt Singh @MattSingh_

    Scotland-wide Lab to Con swing running at 8.2% in Constituency seats. If repeated on the list, Tories 2 points ahead twitter.com/ncpoliticsuk/s…
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @Ruth_E_Davidson: Up 10% in Clacks & Dunblane. There may be a trend....
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JamieRoss7: Unless something extraordinary happens in the next few hours, I understand Labour now expect to come third tonight.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287
    Scott_P said:

    @Ruth_E_Davidson: Up 10% in Clacks & Dunblane. There may be a trend....

    Ruth, it's called a surge. Do keep up.

    :D
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Britain Elects @britainelects

    East Kilbride (ScotParl):
    SNP: 55.9% (+7.9)
    LAB: 24.2% (-17.3)
    CON: 16.9% (+9.4)
    LDEM: 2.9% (+1.3)
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Who knew, tax rise promises are as unpopular in Scotland as elsewhere....

    Contrary to nationalist myth-making (of both the SNP and Labour), Scots are not more progressive than English voters. They don't like high taxes. They don't want their freebies taken off them. They like parties that play it safe rather than parties that want to change the world.

    http://stv.tv/news/politics/1353088-live-all-the-results-and-latest-from-the-scottish-election-part-1/?blockgroupid=158934
    Not exactly rocket science is it!
    No, but it's a key plank in the SNP's "othering" of rUK and its horse feathers...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287

    Britain Elects @britainelects

    East Kilbride (ScotParl):
    SNP: 55.9% (+7.9)
    LAB: 24.2% (-17.3)
    CON: 16.9% (+9.4)
    LDEM: 2.9% (+1.3)

    Trebling of the vote there :o
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591

    Matt Singh @MattSingh_

    Scotland-wide Lab to Con swing running at 8.2% in Constituency seats. If repeated on the list, Tories 2 points ahead twitter.com/ncpoliticsuk/s…

    Good job you edited that from Con to Lab originally Plato!
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,177
    Really pleased to see that my 24 hour trip to Scotland this week, in which I spoke politics to exactly one person, has had such an impact.

    #travellingtory
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Who knew, tax rise promises are as unpopular in Scotland as elsewhere....

    Contrary to nationalist myth-making (of both the SNP and Labour), Scots are not more progressive than English voters. They don't like high taxes. They don't want their freebies taken off them. They like parties that play it safe rather than parties that want to change the world.

    http://stv.tv/news/politics/1353088-live-all-the-results-and-latest-from-the-scottish-election-part-1/?blockgroupid=158934
    Not exactly rocket science is it!
    No, but it's a key plank in the SNP's "othering" of rUK and its horse feathers...
    SNP "plank" - who might you be talking of on PB ??
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287
    Mortimer said:

    Really pleased to see that my 24 hour trip to Scotland this week, in which I spoke politics to exactly one person, has had such an impact.

    #travellingtory

    You must have told them to spread the word.. seven degrees and all that
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Basildon Council @BasildonCouncil

    Basildon election results 2016: Overall, UKIP gained 3 seats, 2 from Labour and 1 from Liberal Democrat
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Worcester woman not best pleased. Worcester CON loss to NOC.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    RUNNING TOTALS

    Labour down 26 seats
    Tories up 10 seats
    Lib Dems up 3 seats
    UKIP up 17 seats
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Labour hold Sopwell / St Albans by 2 votes.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,177
    RobD said:

    Mortimer said:

    Really pleased to see that my 24 hour trip to Scotland this week, in which I spoke politics to exactly one person, has had such an impact.

    #travellingtory

    You must have told them to spread the word.. seven degrees and all that
    To be honest, I felt pretty much like a socialist after talking to a lovely Morningside Tory lady.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    I'd love to be one of those pollsters post the Scottish election speaking to a voter who has switched from Labour to Tory to get into their mindset!
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,177
    Right - night all. Thanks for the election night company.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2016
    A rare bit of good news for Tories on Merseyside — they've gained Harington on Sefton council, although it used to be rock solid for them.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Ogmore declaration coming up
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Ogmore by-electiond declaration now...candidates going up on the stage
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,011
    Tonight is looking good for Alastair and bad for Alistair on the pb tipster leaderboard.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Going off to sleep after Ogmore
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    After 12 of 73 constituencies

    SNP 48.2% (+3.4%)
    LAB 25.2% (-10.1%)
    CON 17.9% (+6.2%)
    LD 8.3% (+2.4%)
    OTH 0.4% (+0.4%)
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,786
    hunchman said:

    I'd love to be one of those pollsters post the Scottish election speaking to a voter who has switched from Labour to Tory to get into their mindset!

    I got a text from a friend who said he was switching from Labour to the Tories. He sent me a link of Ruth on HIGNFY to explain why.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    Why is there a complete pr!ck holding up a Vote Labour sign at the declaration? Bit late for that now...
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    UKIP easily 2nd by 1200 votes from PC. Plaid barely ahead of the Tories
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,011
    Think I will lose £20 on Scotland tbh can't see anything other than Galloway a nd Dumfrieshire heading Tory.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287

    Why is there a complete pr!ck holding up a Vote Labour sign at the declaration? Bit late for that now...

    Just getting it in early for the next election ;)
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591

    After 12 of 73 constituencies

    SNP 48.2% (+3.4%)
    LAB 25.2% (-10.1%)
    CON 17.9% (+6.2%)
    LD 8.3% (+2.4%)
    OTH 0.4% (+0.4%)

    and Tory best areas apart from Eastwood to come
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287
    Pulpstar said:

    Think I will lose £20 on Scotland tbh can't see anything other than Galloway a nd Dumfrieshire heading Tory.

    Did you bet against a Scottish Tory Surge?

    You know those things are nailed on, right? Every time! :D
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Getting off to sleep, albeit with the radio on!

    Good night all. Thanks for all your company.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley (Scottish Parliament)

    SNP: 46.4% (+0.2)
    LAB: 27.4% (-9.8)
    CON: 24.2% (+9.7)
    LDEM: 2.0% (-0.2)
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287
    hunchman said:

    Getting off to sleep, albeit with the radio on!

    Good night all. Thanks for all your company.

    Will get Scott to put the Tory Surge Klaxon into silent mode. ;)
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    RobD said:

    Why is there a complete pr!ck holding up a Vote Labour sign at the declaration? Bit late for that now...

    Just getting it in early for the next election ;)
    He's still doing it now. Kn0b!
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    oh no, I wanted to know if the the speech for the Ogmore candidate was the same of the Sheffield widow
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287

    Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley (Scottish Parliament)

    SNP: 46.4% (+0.2)
    LAB: 27.4% (-9.8)
    CON: 24.2% (+9.7)
    LDEM: 2.0% (-0.2)

    Vote only up two thirds. Disappointing.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JamieRoss7: BREAKING: Ruth Davidson tells me she's confident of second place. "Lots of results to come in but the indications are looking good so far."
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JournoStephen: The Tories have come second in Clydesdale.

    Clydesdale.

    The Tories.

    Not even making this up.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Stephen Daisley @JournoStephen

    The Tories have come second in Clydesdale.

    Clydesdale.

    The Tories.

    Not even making this up.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Clydesdale swing 13% Lab to Con
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited May 2016
    Ogmore

    Lab 52.6
    UKIP 16.2
    Plaid 15.7
    Con 12,.6

    Lab -0.3
    UKIP +0.8
    Plaid +5.6
    Con -3.3
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @britainelects: Clydesdale (Scottish Parliament)
    SNP: 44.0% (-5.9)
    CON: 26.2% (+11.9)
    LAB: 20.7% (-15.0)
    LDEM: 2.4% (+2.4)
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Clydesdale (Scottish Parliament) SNP: 44.0% (-5.9) CON: 26.2% (+11.9) LAB: 20.7% (-15.0) LDEM: 2.4% (+2.4)
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,893
    Not much change in the few declarations we've had from Wales so far.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Scott_P said:

    @JournoStephen: The Tories have come second in Clydesdale.

    Clydesdale.

    The Tories.

    Not even making this up.

    Jimmy Hood eat your heart out!
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @MSmithsonPB: It will be interesting to see serious analysis of LAB performance in wards with big Jewish communities

    @aljwhite: March: Scottish Labour leader visits the Jewish community in Eastwood. April: Scottish Labour loses Eastwood. https://t.co/Y72rNANDqR
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Labour's vote down 5% in Delyn but their majority goes up because of split between Tories and UKIP.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,786

    Stephen Daisley @JournoStephen

    The Tories have come second in Clydesdale.

    Clydesdale.

    The Tories.

    Not even making this up.

    I am starting to believe.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,076
    In Scotland, the trend seems to be very limited progress for the SNP against the Unionist bloc, with a good deal of Labour->Tory tactical voting.

    The Better Together legacy continues to devour SLAB.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Delyn

    Lab 40.9
    Con 25.5
    UKIP 16.4

    Lab -5.2
    Con -8.2
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @annemcelvoy: If Ruth Davidson really has pulled of second place for Tories in Scotland, this is the Lazarus story of the night.

    Scottish Tory Surge KLAXON !!!
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    Artist said:

    Not much change in the few declarations we've had from Wales so far.

    Other than a relatively strong showing from UKIP.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Scott_P said:

    @MSmithsonPB: It will be interesting to see serious analysis of LAB performance in wards with big Jewish communities

    @aljwhite: March: Scottish Labour leader visits the Jewish community in Eastwood. April: Scottish Labour loses Eastwood. https://t.co/Y72rNANDqR

    Eastwood has largest Jewish community in Scotland doesn't it IIRC?
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,765
    Are English councils only electing one third of seats?

    BBC has not said so.

    Yet if that's right it's key to why so few councils are changing hands.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287
    edited May 2016
    Scott_P said:

    @annemcelvoy: If Ruth Davidson really has pulled of second place for Tories in Scotland, this is the Lazarus story of the night.

    Scottish Tory Surge KLAXON !!!

    Looking at the share of the vote the BBC are reporting (18%), and the change of +8%, it looks as though we haven't yet got to "good" Tory territory, since the 2011 constituency result was 14%.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,287
    MikeL said:

    Are English councils only electing one third of seats?

    BBC has not said so.

    Yet if that's right it's key to why so few councils are changing hands.

    Most are, some aren't. Exeter is all up for instance.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,061
    Artist said:

    Why are the BBC talking about Eastwood like it was a big shock

    Because they are turnips?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @alexmassie: A lot of 10-10_seats: Labour down by ten points and the Tories up by ten.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Labour hold vale of Clwyd by around 800 votes
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Labour hold Vale of Clwyd
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited May 2016
    Vale of Clwyd

    Lab 30.5
    Con 36.4
    UKIP 12.3

    Lab -11.2
    Con +3
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,786
    Tories hold Ayr.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Nicola arrives at the Glasgow count
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @ianswansonen: Now seems clear Lib Dems have won Edinburgh Western from the SNP. #jpvote
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    I know this doesn't matter in the slightest - but does Sturgeon wear a wig? Her hair always seems the same and never moves...
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