The Greens now have 1 MEP, the LDs none, is it not Clegg who should now be arguing for his place in next year's debates rather than Nathalie Bennett? Farage must now clearly also have a spot
LDs leading in...Gibraltar according to BBC, joke?
GeoffM has been spending too much time on his yacht.
It seems so! But I did also say a while back that the local newspaper The Chronic is absolutely in bed with the LibDem pox and has been laying it on thick with a yellow trowel for years.
That's why I am so pleased to see the back of Watson. There will be a black border on the newspaper tomorrow but we'll feel the benefit very soon. Nobody will look back.
Where will the 7% Lib Dem rump go when they collapse in to nothing over the next 10 years?
They've been reduced further than this in previous incarnations and survived to rebuild over many decades. I think it premature to assume they will disappear entirely, they will just have to readjust to being a much less ambitious in scope party.
Not when there have been so many other alternatives around though.
Green and LDs 11% in SW. Must have been close for that last MEP.
6,000 votes.
Commiserations. LDs have to reap the results of the public simply not liking the EU and so not supporting an unequivocal party of In (those unhappily In bettering representing their views), but it is unfortunate to see too many regions become accessible to a few parties only, though SW got on pretty well on that score still.
Dunno but I'll be off to bed soon. I'm beginning to wonder if we need to wait for tomorrow pm and the Western Isles results, delayed because the Lewis and Harris folk are, with true Presbyterian principle, refusing to count polls on a Sunday: a work of neither necessity nor mercy (frustrating as it may be to PBers).
The Greens now have 1 MEP, the LDs none, is it not Clegg who should now be arguing for his place in next year's debates rather than Nathalie Bennett? Farage must now clearly also have a spot
Remind me, are these debates for a European election or General Election?
Indeed. It wasn't a mistake to try it; it was a mistake to cock it up.
The timing was a big mistake (although Clegg may not have have much choice on that). The biggest effect of the debates was to start the Euro campaign several weeks early, giving UKIP a much longer period of dominating the political headlines than would otherwise have been the case,
Wales UKIP, Labour, Tory and PC all win a seat in Wales. Labour and UKIP both on 28%. UKIP swept the Welsh border with England according to Emily Maitlis, UKIP also swept Cornwall, and dividing Devon with Tories, LDs nowhere in their heartlands
The Guardian should be a right laugh this coming week. Owen Jones, Polly, Yasmin et al. will undoubtably go way over the top in their fretting about the election results.
Why's Tim Faroon wearing a purple kipper tie ? Is he about to defect ?
It is one of my pet peeves how often party leaders in particular seem to wear ties in their party colours a lot of the time, as if the only difference between them is literally just their tie choice so we can tell them apart, so quite happy for Farron to wear anything but yellow, frankly.
LDs leading in...Gibralter according to BBC, joke?
No, true. Won 60%+ of the vote I think.
Remember that the SW had a Gibraltarian on the list (even though low down) Lyana is very well known here. Her ex husband is a very good personal friend of mine - and an ex maths teacher so generations have grown up respecting that surname. She'll have hoovered up a lot of the apolitical vote.
Why's Tim Faroon wearing a purple kipper tie ? Is he about to defect ?
It is one of my pet peeves how often party leaders in particular seem to wear ties in their party colours a lot of the time, as if the only difference between them is literally just their tie choice so we can tell them apart, so quite happy for Farron to wear anything but yellow, frankly.
Amen, it's a dull 'tradition' we seem to have developed.
What the hell is wrong with Tower Hamlets. I just read that all of the London boroughs except TH have reported in with their results. Such a basket case.
Tower Hamlets can't even post their counted votes.
That is astonishing. First time a non Labour, non Tory party has won an election since the invention of the motor car.
I wouldn't use that Mr T, it's not true by decades.
If Sean would like to borrow the examples from my thread anticipating this outcome yesterday, he's more than welcome to, with appropriate attribution ;-) :
"The last time any party other than Labour or the Conservatives won a UK-wide election, women didn’t have the vote, the future RMS Titanic was still under construction and the Ottoman Empire stretched to the shores of the Adriatic. That 103-year long shut-out will probably end this week."
Its becoming beyond a joke now. We voted on Thursday, those sealed ballot boxes could have been tucked up safe in Inverness on Friday and counted today with every one else while the good folks of the Western Isles continued to observe the Sabbath.
Dunno but I'll be off to bed soon. I'm beginning to wonder if we need to wait for tomorrow pm and the Western Isles results, delayed because the Lewis and Harris folk are, with true Presbyterian principle, refusing to count polls on a Sunday: a work of neither necessity nor mercy (frustrating as it may be to PBers).
Nick Clegg is going to find it very difficult to stay as leader of the Lib Dems. I expect to see a resignation speech by Clegg middle of next week. Tim Farron should take over in my opinion.
What the hell is wrong with Tower Hamlets. I just read that all of the London boroughs except TH have reported in with their results. Such a basket case.
Tower Hamlets can't even post their counted votes.
The place is a mess, but the same lot get in each year on the back of Bengali solidarity. Reminds me of some of the corrupt Democratic city machines in the US.
Why's Tim Faroon wearing a purple kipper tie ? Is he about to defect ?
It is one of my pet peeves how often party leaders in particular seem to wear ties in their party colours a lot of the time, as if the only difference between them is literally just their tie choice so we can tell them apart, so quite happy for Farron to wear anything but yellow, frankly.
Wearing party colours is fair enough on election night.
Nick Clegg is going to find it very difficult to stay as leader of the Lib Dems. I expect to see a resignation speech by Clegg middle of next week. Tim Farron should take over in my opinion.
If he doesn't go soon in response to the last locals failing to stem the tide of losses, and this near total wipeout (or total wipeout) at the Euros, then not even losing his GE seat could shift him I'd say. No LD would really want the trouble of seeing through the final year of this Coalition, but how can they continue on after a series of results too terrible to even laughable spin as ok?
Christian Democrats 27 seats ahead of Social Democrats in the current predictions, far left 5 seats against of Tory-led EPP. Italy has centre-left on 33 vs Beppo 26 and Berlusconi's Forza Italia way back on 18.
Nick Clegg is going to find it very difficult to stay as leader of the Lib Dems. I expect to see a resignation speech by Clegg middle of next week. Tim Farron should take over in my opinion.
If he doesn't go soon in response to the last locals failing to stem the tide of losses, and this near total wipeout (or total wipeout) at the Euros, then not even losing his GE seat could shift him I'd say. No LD would really want the trouble of seeing through the final year of this Coalition, but how can they continue on after a series of results too terrible to even laughable spin as ok?
If the LD lose all their seats in the euros, Clegg can't stay for long.
Why's Tim Faroon wearing a purple kipper tie ? Is he about to defect ?
It is one of my pet peeves how often party leaders in particular seem to wear ties in their party colours a lot of the time, as if the only difference between them is literally just their tie choice so we can tell them apart, so quite happy for Farron to wear anything but yellow, frankly.
Wearing party colours is fair enough on election night.
I never meant to imply it wasn't, but you see the leaders in particular often colour code throughout the year. It's not something they do universally, but when they have all at once done so it looks bloody silly, as if the cliche of their being no difference between them to the point we need a visual cue to remind us, is true.
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Con 41% (343)
Lab 27% (253)
LD 10% (28)
UKIP 11% (0)
Little parties 11% NI 18 SNP 5 PC 3 (26)
Conservative!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lab 206,332
UKIP 201,983
Con 127,742
PC 111,864
Green 33,275
LD 28,930
BNP 7,655
Britain First 6,633
Soc LP 4,459
N02EU 2,803
SP GB 1,384
Labour hold first place in Wales by 4,349 votes.
They have 12 9 8 1
Implies Con would be ahead on votes in a GE today - with a year still to go.
That's why I am so pleased to see the back of Watson. There will be a black border on the newspaper tomorrow but we'll feel the benefit very soon. Nobody will look back.
Rob Murray @robmurray11 3m
East Renfrewshire council: @ScotTories 8,044, Labour: 7,623, SNP: 6,564 #EPScot
All it may need is a challenge from one of their big guns ..... Ok, Ok, I know there's only Uncle Vince big enough to stand up to him.
This is a truly awful night for the LibDems, the worst in fact for many years.
Lyana is very well known here. Her ex husband is a very good personal friend of mine - and an ex maths teacher so generations have grown up respecting that surname.
She'll have hoovered up a lot of the apolitical vote.
I'll be up all night at this rate - I AM DRUNK -
All PBers please pay no attention from me from now on.
Póg mo thóin!
UKIP 25
Con 19
Lab 20 (third in votes)
LD 0
Grn 3
Lab now 0.4% behind again (on UNS)
How many more LD knives out in the press for Clegg tomorrow?
"The last time any party other than Labour or the Conservatives won a UK-wide election, women didn’t have the vote, the future RMS Titanic was still under construction and the Ottoman Empire stretched to the shores of the Adriatic. That 103-year long shut-out will probably end this week."
I'd go beyond "probably" now.
"This is a truly awful night for...."
Some more Scots results - but not Glasgow.
Not "unlucky" -it is called Democracy -it is when we the people get a chance to tell OUR elected politicians what we think of their performance.
I canna cope!!!!
Euracist, perhaps?
I have just opened a bottle of Crimean champagne from the crate reserved for nights like this.
Are they waiting on Tower Hamlets 7 million votes :> ?
Any port in a storm!
Glasgow result: BF 1219 BNP 1196 Con 10985 Lab 45676 Lib 3830 No2 829 SGP 15359 SNP 37820 UKIP 12638 #EPScot