I think we need to provide some sort of military backstop to Ukraine now. There must be a chance the whole edifice collapses - just imagine what morale is like on the front line.
Ukraine is being sold out before our eyes. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything so grossly unedifying in international relations in my lifetime.
With every day that goes by the case for a strong European defence policy becomes more urgent.
And yet since Saturday how many of the ' coalition of the willing' have come out with concrete measures or Indeed anything? I can only think of Denmark so far. It's sad, but also so predictable.
Everything that's taking place in the USA is a reminder of what happens when around 50% of the voting public lose confidence in orthodox government as we've understood it since about 1945. I hope it doesn't happen in other western countries, but it could if the same mistakes are made.
They didn’t lose confidence. Their confidence was undermined by propaganda and lies.
Sorry but that is just stupid. Look at the way the Middle Class has collapsed in the US since the 1970s. Or the red wall in the UK. Yes there were lies about the cause but all they did was hide the fact that the people in power simply didn't care about huge swathes of the electorate and thought that they were stupid enough to keep voting for them no matter what shit they piled on them. Give them no alternative and it didn't matter that things were getting steadily worse.
Successive governments in many Western countries created the conditions for people like Trump to thrive because they put their ideology ahead of the good of the people they were elected to serve. If it hadn't been Trump it would have been someone else equally bad because Governments, Corporations and the whole system was designed as a great big Fuck You to working people.
Everything that's taking place in the USA is a reminder of what happens when around 50% of the voting public lose confidence in orthodox government as we've understood it since about 1945. I hope it doesn't happen in other western countries, but it could if the same mistakes are made.
They didn’t lose confidence. Their confidence was undermined by propaganda and lies.
Sorry but that is just stupid. Look at the way the Middle Class has collapsed in the US since the 1970s. Or the red wall in the UK. Yes there were lies about the cause but all they did was hide the fact that the people in power simply didn't care about huge swathes of the electorate and thought that they were stupid enough to keep voting for them no matter what shit they piled on them. Give them no alternative and it didn't matter that things were getting steadily worse.
Successive governments in many Western countries created the conditions for people like Trump to thrive because they put their ideology ahead of the good of the people they were elected to serve. If it hadn't been Trump it would have been someone else equally bad because Governments, Corporations and the whole system was designed as a great big Fuck You to working people.
Absolutely?
This is something investor Jeremy Grantham expands on in the Merry Talks Money podcast this week.
Really since about 1975 when the benefits of growth stopped being shared equally but went more and more towards those at the top.
Jan 24: +8.2% Feb 7: +4.8% Feb 21: +1.5% Today: +0.1%
That he remains at +0.1% is a horrifying indictment of America.
That puts the bed the idea that those who voted for him have been betrayed.
You can't coddle Reform/MAGA out of existence. Their behaviour is more cult than politics. Debate and challenge often embeds their views further. There might be something in levelling up, in lower immigration in the long run - but you get the sense nothing will ever suffice.
They need an enemy to blame everything on. Once trans people are legislated out of official existence, they will start on homosexuals. And they've already started removing women's rights.
There will always be an enemy. When things go wrong, it's *their* fault.
@rcs1000 Just got an net::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID message saying that the SSL certificate for .politicalbetting.com expired at 23:59:59 last night.
What does that mean in plain English to a non-tesh ?
Websites can use certificates to authenticate (say they are who they say they are), and this is done via a process called SSL. Such 'secure' websites used to have a padlock symbol on the address bar.
No certificate, or an invalid one, means the browser considers that the website may be insecure.
Everything that's taking place in the USA is a reminder of what happens when around 50% of the voting public lose confidence in orthodox government as we've understood it since about 1945. I hope it doesn't happen in other western countries, but it could if the same mistakes are made.
They didn’t lose confidence. Their confidence was undermined by propaganda and lies.
Sorry but that is just stupid. Look at the way the Middle Class has collapsed in the US since the 1970s. Or the red wall in the UK. Yes there were lies about the cause but all they did was hide the fact that the people in power simply didn't care about huge swathes of the electorate and thought that they were stupid enough to keep voting for them no matter what shit they piled on them. Give them no alternative and it didn't matter that things were getting steadily worse.
Successive governments in many Western countries created the conditions for people like Trump to thrive because they put their ideology ahead of the good of the people they were elected to serve. If it hadn't been Trump it would have been someone else equally bad because Governments, Corporations and the whole system was designed as a great big Fuck You to working people.
Absolutely?
This is something investor Jeremy Grantham expands on in the Merry Talks Money podcast this week.
Really since about 1975 when the benefits of growth stopped being shared equally but went more and more towards those at the top.
Income inequality in the UK is only just a little better than in US. But that's not the real story, because overall income inequality has been stable for decades.
It's wealth where there has been such a dramatic change. The top 10% are about £300,000 better off than they were 10 years ago, while there has been no change for the bottom 10%. Almost all of that is from differences in passive income.
Trump is a mad bully. I hope all Companies refuse to trade with the USA to.make him see sense.. the only way to deal wilth a bully is to give him.some of his own medecine. I am sure the King can be indisposed at the time of Trumps visit.. if it now takes place.. let him stay in a Premier Inn
Isn’t there a Twattish Petty Dictator Inn that he can be stuck in?
Where did Pinochet stay a few years ago? He could have his suite. Failing that Turnbury.
Would that bring him in range of @malcolmg and his ballistic turnips?
@ydoethur I was looking at a house in Turnberry the other week but dodgy neighbours up the road
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This is something investor Jeremy Grantham expands on in the Merry Talks Money podcast this week.
Really since about 1975 when the benefits of growth stopped being shared equally but went more and more towards those at the top.
There will always be an enemy. When things go wrong, it's *their* fault.
No certificate, or an invalid one, means the browser considers that the website may be insecure.
You need to periodically renew the certificate.
It's wealth where there has been such a dramatic change. The top 10% are about £300,000 better off than they were 10 years ago, while there has been no change for the bottom 10%. Almost all of that is from differences in passive income.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eys2yCOZOYo
TLDR: USA should abandon Europe totally. Europe be fucked unless it federates