Yesterday I was all in for my best bottle of Malbec for tonight.
But I’ve had a change of mind. I’ve opened a 2015 Pecharmant which I bought at the Chateau in 2019. The Elixir of Chateau les Farcies du Pech. Pecharmant for me is one of France’s more underrated apellations, on the north side of Bergerac.
A bittersweet one because my good friend who we were with on that occasion passed away last year at a criminally young age. A scientist who led a notable body of research into the ecological consequences of Chernobyl. I shall remember him as I watch these results.
Ah, sad. Sympathies
I've gone for an Amarone to acoompany the (sensational) laksa, and for the results - a 2001 Chateau Musar. Yes, 2001
It feels fitting for the fall of a very overripe governing party. A wine that is probably quite a few years past its peak. Needs to be drunk. End
Bloody hell, I hope you're going to decant that Chateau Musar first. I mean, it's sediment-y enough at the best of times...
I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.
Why EU citizens?
Why should a Danish citizen who pays taxes here be treated any different to an American citizen who pays taxes here?
Sure, I wouldn’t discriminate. If you contribute for long enough you should get a vote.
I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.
Fine, but bear in mind they might not all vote Met, as many on the centre-left assume.
Look at how Europe is voting atm.
I’m not assuming how they vote. I just think taxation should enable representation. After 5 years perhaps.
For all people from anywhere who live here? Or specifically for EU citizens and discriminating against others?
And why not have them get citizenship if they want the vote?
If it's close for which party will be His Majesty's loyal opposition, I wonder if the UUP could be in play to take the Tory Whip if the Lib Dems play the same trick with Alliance.
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Sky News panel has Ruth Davidson and Andy Burnham.
Like it
Yes, they;re both quite likeable, and charming. Ordinary while being clever and empathetic
I'd be quite happy if Burnham was about to be PM. Much more than Starmer
I've got Sky on now.
Burnham has the charm that Starmer lacks, and has gained gravitas whereas Stamer is just pompous. Also Burnham has a natural optimism, he's like a nothern Blair, Starmer is weirdly dour - like Brown
It's a damn shame he's not the Labour leader and PM manque
£30 up already. BF just settled. July election date.
Hurrah.
Who was that PBer that tipped a July election at 20s back in March?
Not me. I am still large on January. Then Reform is going to get 25% and I it's all over for me.
Haven't you predicted Reform down on 10% or below? I suspect you are about to be embarrassed. But feel free to merciless torment me if you're right?
I have. I've backed them from 14% downwards. As I said earlier, I topped up an hour ago at below 14% and will live with the error of my judgement for some time if, as appears to be the case, they roof it.
TBF it's very hard to call
I reckon they will get 15-17%
14-18% is around 4s (bf). If that's what you think then that's a huge price.
My wife has just has just voted. Told voting had been "steady" with just over 400 votes made in the village. I may be wrong but I do think that's down a bit.
It will be interesting to see whether the Scottish and Northern Irish school holidays reduce turnout compared to England and Wales.
Yesterday I was all in for my best bottle of Malbec for tonight.
But I’ve had a change of mind. I’ve opened a 2015 Pecharmant which I bought at the Chateau in 2019. The Elixir of Chateau les Farcies du Pech. Pecharmant for me is one of France’s more underrated apellations, on the north side of Bergerac.
A bittersweet one because my good friend who we were with on that occasion passed away last year at a criminally young age. A scientist who led a notable body of research into the ecological consequences of Chernobyl. I shall remember him as I watch these results.
Ah, sad. Sympathies
I've gone for an Amarone to acoompany the (sensational) laksa, and for the results - a 2001 Chateau Musar. Yes, 2001
It feels fitting for the fall of a very overripe governing party. A wine that is probably quite a few years past its peak. Needs to be drunk. End
Bloody hell, I hope you're going to decant that Chateau Musar first. I mean, it's sediment-y enough at the best of times...
I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.
Why EU citizens?
Why should a Danish citizen who pays taxes here be treated any different to an American citizen who pays taxes here?
Sure, I wouldn’t discriminate. If you contribute for long enough you should get a vote.
if you want the benefits of being British including voting then become a British citizen
I will go into the Exit Poll showing my naivety by saying I can't believe Reform are going to get a high teen voteshare. How will politics have failed so many people such that they need to vote Reform to express their discontent. The country in such circumstances really would be f****d.
Are we waiting for the poll on analogue or digital? It is a matter of seconds and maybe someone can make some money out of it. Who watches/listens to anything on analogue any more.
@Big_G_NorthWales before this all kicks off I want to wish you and Mrs Big G all the very, very, best. I know from what you’ve posted that this is a really tough time for you health-wise. You’re good people and I hope for things to improve as far as that’s possible.
I will go into the Exit Poll showing my naivety by saying I can't believe Reform are going to get a high teen voteshare. How will politics have failed so many people such that they need to vote Reform to express their discontent. The country in such circumstances really would be f****d.
We know nothing. My agent - best friends with Sarah Vine - has just said she knows nothing. I think the the Exit Poll insiders are keeping it well under wraps, otherwise the risk of betting and fraud is so huge, it makes sense
If Vine has heard a rumour it is just the usual in-the-place count
I will go into the Exit Poll showing my naivety by saying I can't believe Reform are going to get a high teen voteshare. How will politics have failed so many people such that they need to vote Reform to express their discontent. The country in such circumstances really would be f****d.
We know nothing. My agent - best friends with Sarah Vine - has just said she knows nothing. I think the the Exit Poll insiders are keeping it well under wraps, otherwise the risk of betting and fraud is so huge, it makes sense
If Vine has heard a rumour it is just the usual in-the-place count
I’ve had £15 on the Tories to get at least 100 seats. I’ve backed Labour in Exmouth, LibDems in Tewkesbury and a quid on RochdalePioneers in Aberdeenshire North.
I will go into the Exit Poll showing my naivety by saying I can't believe Reform are going to get a high teen voteshare. How will politics have failed so many people such that they need to vote Reform to express their discontent. The country in such circumstances really would be f****d.
couple of my sons tell me Reform are really popular amongst their peers.
These people were Labour supporters in the main previously
Whether that translates into votes or not .... shrugs .....
5 minutes! Thanks to OGH and everyone else for making PB the best place on the internet for UK politics. For those of us who have placed bets - here we go!
Sky News panel has Ruth Davidson and Andy Burnham.
Like it
Yes, they;re both quite likeable, and charming. Ordinary while being clever and empathetic
I'd be quite happy if Burnham was about to be PM. Much more than Starmer
I've got Sky on now.
Burnham has the charm that Starmer lacks, and has gained gravitas whereas Stamer is just pompous. Also Burnham has a natural optimism, he's like a nothern Blair, Starmer is weirdly dour - like Brown
It's a damn shame he's not the Labour leader and PM manque
I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.
Why just EU citizens? Should be anyone who is living here long enough and paying taxes. Not taxation without representation etc.
Paying taxes is what you do in return for getting services.
Voting should be open to UK citizens only.
It has never been.
Someone just a month off the plane from Rwanda can vote, but not a Dane.
Which is wrong. There’s no good reason why Commonwealth citizens should have the vote.
Judging by their normal output something about Trans.
A rig I was on last year showed it in the mess every fecking morning and evening whilst we were eating. In spite of loads of complaints. Apparently the Camp Boss was a devotee. And every fecking day it was the same. Trans this, Trans that. It was relentless. I don't care which side of the debate you are on, GB news managed to piss off everybody.
They could have had Lee Anderson and Gloria de Piero tonight.
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And why not have them get citizenship if they want the vote?
It's a damn shame he's not the Labour leader and PM manque
So that's 3 of the last 4 elections where the pollsters were a fair way out.
Have greened nicely in a number of markets and now just playing with house money thankfully - but shall certainly try and keep my wits about me!
Are we waiting for the poll on analogue or digital? It is a matter of seconds and maybe someone can make some money out of it. Who watches/listens to anything on analogue any more.
That said 8/1 on the Tories to get over 150 seats feels like it's worth a punt.
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If Vine has heard a rumour it is just the usual in-the-place count
Have a horrible feeling about this yet I’m surrounded by partying London mums and dads who are looking forward to a landslide.
Five minutes to go...
And a little bet on Labour in Norfolk SW.
People might confuse with the exit.
These people were Labour supporters in the main previously
Whether that translates into votes or not .... shrugs .....
Jesus.
Totally relaxed about whatever the results prove to be in the morning.
Three mins to exit poll.
Good luck to Starmer, Reeves, Streeting and the others.
I lose 25% of the screen with a berk gesticulating in the foreground.
It says 140 until exit poll
If the Lib Dems plus SNP get more seats than the Tories could they keep them out of opposition?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iFyVLRnJG_7HD1BrN6BQMzU_n2Vl-BjJEIz5H3qq6XA/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Sheet 1: alphabetical.
Sheet 2: according to anticipated declaration order.