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  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,025
    Cicero said:

    DavidL said:

    Sky News showing an animated Larry the Cat

    Which is fine but they are also showing Kate Burley which is considerably more tedious.
    The cat has a higher IQ
    And that's the animation.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,749
    P.S. hope everyone has a good Genny Lec regardless of result, I do enjoy the discussion here even if mostly I am not smart enough to contribute to it with any level of insight :smiley:
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,126

    ,,,

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @Steven_Swinford
    Breaking:

    Rishi Sunak has given a peerage to his chief of staff Liam Booth-Smith

    Oliver Dowden, Julian Smith, Ben Wallace and Alister Jack all get knighthoods

    Sunak's other peerages include:

    Sir Graham Brady, former chairman of the 1922 committee
    Chris Grayling, former transport secretary
    Dame Eleanor Laing, deputy speaker of Commons
    Craig Mackinley
    Theresa May
    Alok Sharma

    Starmer has nominated Margaret Beckett, John Cryer, Harriet Harman, Margaret Hodge, Kevan Jones, Barbara Keeley, John Spellar and Rosie Winterton

    No undeserving or dodgy bastards in that lot.

    *puts on Sheldon voice*

    That, FYI, was sarcasm.
    The Graham Brady one is dodgy as all get out. That one for the running total of letters?
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dissolution-peerages-2024
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,706
    rcs1000 said:

    I would like to point out that I called 2019 exactly right.

    I would like to point out that I never get anything right, and I consistently wet the bet.

    However, I do tend to make a little bit of money.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,606
    edited July 4
    SteveS said:

    SteveS said:

    So as we move into the last hours of the Con government, I can't help but think how disappointing it has been. Love them or loathe them but Thatcher and Blair transformed the UK.

    This iteration of the Cons have not achieved that much, if you think about it. For me, the problem has been the rotating cast of PMs and cabinet ministers, which has led to constant change. Great for the political journos but this has led to a loss of focus and long-term planning.

    I think it was the purge of half the party post Brexit. A party that can include Hammond, Saj, Gauke, even Rory Stewart is a very different proposition to the current party.

    But post election I suspect the Conservatives will go right not centre.

    Quick q, but who is the most One Nation Tory likely to be eligible for the upcoming leadership race?
    By half the party you mean about eight MPs ?

    And are you aware that Saj was appointed Chancellor and then Health Sec by Boris ?
    Yes. He was still screwed over by Boris / Dom



    By half the party you mean about eight MPs ?

    I think there were at least eight (former) cabinet members. From memory the September purge included:
    Hammond
    Ken Clarke
    Letwin
    David Gauke
    Justine
    Caroline noakes
    Rory Stuart
    Nick soames

    When the Conservatives expel a grandson of Churchill you know the heart and soul has gone.

    It’s up there with when the Corbynistas shouted “Tory” at anyone who thought Tony Blair had achieved one or two good things

    The conservatives need someone who can drag them back to the centre, as Starmer has with Labour. But I’m not confident.




    Nick Soames is a fat, ugly, arrogant, misogynistic, tiny-dicked tit of a man. And a raging snob

    It would have helped the Tory/Remainer cause if they hadn't beem such raging snobs, sneering and angry at the disobedient plebs, But they were. And so we have Brexited, and it will not be reversed
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,706

    Just over 30 minutes to either the biggest election anti-climax or the greatest polling disaster in opinion polling history.

    It's going to be a really long 30 minutes.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,132

    source close to CCHQ now says they believe Reform will win as many as 15 seats

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1808952989618516365

    Rats. I laid 7 or more about an hour ago.

    :disappointed:
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084

    Right - my first election on PB, and I know the best value bets are often to be had after the first results have started trickling in.

    Who are we following on here for tips?

    Be careful, okay?

    People try to work / spook the markets. Not on here, or not really, but they sure do elsewhere.

    Pretty safe if you stay on this site.
  • TweedledeeTweedledee Posts: 1,405

    Sean_F said:

    DougSeal said:

    Another observation. I have a reasonably average sized friendship group and I don't know (although I can guess in most cases) how any of them are voting. It strikes me as weird the number of people on internet message boards whose friends breathlessly tell them exactly what they are going to plump for in the privacy of the voting booth. Maybe my acquaintances are unusually reticent with me.

    I don’t even know how my wife voted.
    My other half has voted Labour, she's a life long socialist.

    She's not keen on Starmer and she was thinking of voting Green but then she asked why I was a Tory.

    I replied 'Because taxes are like your knickers, I always want to see them lower.'

    Her reply was unprintable but said she's voting Labour now.
    If only you'd been a part of the Tory campaign.
    Maybe he's the mole...?
    As if I'd ever sabotage a government with David Cameron in it.
    That would be gilding the lily.
    Painting the lily or gilding refinèd gold
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,041

    Just over 30 minutes to either the biggest election anti-climax or the greatest polling disaster in opinion polling history.

    It's going to be a really long 30 minutes.
    28 now
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,154
    edited July 4

    Just over 30 minutes to either the biggest election anti-climax or the greatest polling disaster in opinion polling history.

    That doesn’t really compute. The ‘or’, that is.

    Anyway it’s just over thirty minutes until a new thread.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,132

    Just over 30 minutes to either the biggest election anti-climax or the greatest polling disaster in opinion polling history.

    It's going to be a really long 30 minutes.
    Not half. I am struggling to sit still.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,706

    Right - my first election on PB, and I know the best value bets are often to be had after the first results have started trickling in.

    Who are we following on here for tips?

    @AndyJS and @Pulpstar
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860

    P.S. hope everyone has a good Genny Lec regardless of result, I do enjoy the discussion here even if mostly I am not smart enough to contribute to it with any level of insight :smiley:

    This really doesn’t stop most people (myself included).
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,684

    I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.

    Why just EU citizens? Should be anyone who is living here long enough and paying taxes. Not taxation without representation etc.
  • ChristopherChristopher Posts: 91

    source close to CCHQ now says they believe Reform will win as many as 15 seats

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1808952989618516365

    Rats. I laid 7 or more about an hour ago.

    :disappointed:
    Goodwin has it correct.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 23,156

    source close to CCHQ now says they believe Reform will win as many as 15 seats

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1808952989618516365

    Well we already know they can read oddschecker....
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,025

    source close to CCHQ now says they believe Reform will win as many as 15 seats

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1808952989618516365

    I hope that is no more accurate than most of the things they say.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,915
    ydoethur said:

    FF43 said:

    I have just heard that several people I know are voting Reform. The last people I would have expected to. Fuck me.

    Anecdote. No-one I know is voting Reform. I do accept they must exist, although I don't expect to meet them.
    I saw a Reform poster today in Halfpenny Green near Wombourne.

    That's the only sign of life from them around here.
    I've got Reform posters all over the place.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,706

    source close to CCHQ now says they believe Reform will win as many as 15 seats

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1808952989618516365

    Rats. I laid 7 or more about an hour ago.

    :disappointed:
    One source. So one voice.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,926
    oh well, thanks Tories. It was an… interesting ride for the past 14 years. I’ll say that much.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,319

    Right - my first election on PB, and I know the best value bets are often to be had after the first results have started trickling in.

    Who are we following on here for tips?

    Certainly not me. I have £5 on NOM at 32. It's currently trading at 70. I can cash out now for minus £3 or wait for the inevitable. Parting is such sweet sorrow, especially when it comes to money.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,476
    Not long now until we split into two groups:

    - those who like what the exit poll shows and are convinced it's accurate
    - those who dislike what the exit poll shows and cast doubt on its accuracy
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541

    I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.

    After 11 years she can naturalise as a British citizen. Assuming Denmark allows dual nationality of course. It's also not cheap.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    RobD said:

    Just over 30 minutes to either the biggest election anti-climax or the greatest polling disaster in opinion polling history.

    It's going to be a really long 30 minutes.
    28 now
    Inglorious Basterds on Film 4
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    BBC reporting that along with dogs & other critters showing up at UK polling places, is at least one snake.

    I'm puzzled . . . because Beeb also reporting that Nigel Farage reportedly voted via postal ballot.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    source close to CCHQ now says they believe Reform will win as many as 15 seats

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1808952989618516365

    Rats. I laid 7 or more about an hour ago.

    :disappointed:
    One source. So one voice.
    I need them to knock Barnsley South off Labour lol. Probably all be ex Tory seats :D
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Back from my outing in time! Sounds like things about to heat up :smile:
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,132
    £30 up already. BF just settled. July election date.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,905
    Leon said:

    SteveS said:

    SteveS said:

    So as we move into the last hours of the Con government, I can't help but think how disappointing it has been. Love them or loathe them but Thatcher and Blair transformed the UK.

    This iteration of the Cons have not achieved that much, if you think about it. For me, the problem has been the rotating cast of PMs and cabinet ministers, which has led to constant change. Great for the political journos but this has led to a loss of focus and long-term planning.

    I think it was the purge of half the party post Brexit. A party that can include Hammond, Saj, Gauke, even Rory Stewart is a very different proposition to the current party.

    But post election I suspect the Conservatives will go right not centre.

    Quick q, but who is the most One Nation Tory likely to be eligible for the upcoming leadership race?
    By half the party you mean about eight MPs ?

    And are you aware that Saj was appointed Chancellor and then Health Sec by Boris ?
    Yes. He was still screwed over by Boris / Dom



    By half the party you mean about eight MPs ?

    I think there were at least eight (former) cabinet members. From memory the September purge included:
    Hammond
    Ken Clarke
    Letwin
    David Gauke
    Justine
    Caroline noakes
    Rory Stuart
    Nick soames

    When the Conservatives expel a grandson of Churchill you know the heart and soul has gone.

    It’s up there with when the Corbynistas shouted “Tory” at anyone who thought Tony Blair had achieved one or two good things

    The conservatives need someone who can drag them back to the centre, as Starmer has with Labour. But I’m not confident.




    Nick Soames is a fat, ugly, arrogant, misogynistic, tiny-dicked tit of a man. And a raging snob

    It would have helped the Tory/Remainer cause if they hadn't beem such raging snobs, sneering and angry at the disobedient plebs, But they were. And so we have Brexited, and it will not be reversed
    Not fat any more.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,476

    source close to CCHQ now says they believe Reform will win as many as 15 seats

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1808952989618516365

    Given how CCHQ has performed over the last six weeks, a pinch of salt is in order.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,538

    source close to CCHQ now says they believe Reform will win as many as 15 seats

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1808952989618516365

    My Reform friend, however, says they think 15 seats is ridiculous.
  • TweedledeeTweedledee Posts: 1,405
    Ghedebrav said:

    I have only just realised on my 87th viewing of Terminator that bill Paxton is the blue haired punk at the beginning

    I’m one of the few who prefer the first film to the (also excellent) second.
    Absolutely with you. Second is over long and I detest the way that woke and liberal Hollywood laughs at second amendmenters but happily makes films suggesting that automatic weapons are fun and cool and virtually harmless
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,706

    RobD said:

    Just over 30 minutes to either the biggest election anti-climax or the greatest polling disaster in opinion polling history.

    It's going to be a really long 30 minutes.
    28 now
    Inglorious Basterds on Film 4
    Also on BBC News 24 all night, I think
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    Right - my first election on PB, and I know the best value bets are often to be had after the first results have started trickling in.

    Who are we following on here for tips?

    @AndyJS and @Pulpstar
    My in play betting is terrible lol. My spreadsheets might show patterns though
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,858
    Rishi nominates Dr Cass for a peerage.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639

    Not long now until we split into two groups:

    - those who like what the exit poll shows and are convinced it's accurate
    - those who dislike what the exit poll shows and cast doubt on its accuracy

    I probably won't like what the exit poll says but recent history says it will be accurate
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,963

    £30 up already. BF just settled. July election date.

    Hurrah.

    Who was that PBer that tipped a July election at 20s back in March?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,905

    source close to CCHQ now says they believe Reform will win as many as 15 seats

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1808952989618516365

    Surely most of those will be red wall Labour targets
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Is the Exit Poll only on BBC?
  • Simon_PeachSimon_Peach Posts: 424

    I remember the hour before the GE2017 exit poll when everyone was saying all the signs were Theresa May had won a stonking majority.

    I posted mid-evening that a senior Tory had just told a local activist that the best case expectation was c. 330 seats… I was chastised for potentially winding up those with a lot to lose on the spreads…
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,538

    I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.

    Why just EU citizens? Should be anyone who is living here long enough and paying taxes. Not taxation without representation etc.
    Paying taxes is what you do in return for getting services.

    Voting should be open to UK citizens only.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,606
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I would like to point out that I called 2019 exactly right.

    Which I grant was all luck. But it did result in a memorable, and wildly off base, retort from @Leon .
    Which was? I'm sure it's true, I say loads of mad things, I'm just glad they're memorable. What was it?
  • MisterBedfordshireMisterBedfordshire Posts: 2,252
    edited July 4

    rcs1000 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Which broadcaster do we think will have the best coverage?

    BBC for reliability and analysis, Sky for speed, ITV and C4 for conversation
    It's the modern version of a woman for babies, a boy for love and a goat for pleasure.
    goat??
    Not in Wales
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639

    Is the Exit Poll only on BBC?

    It will be the same exit poll on BBC ITV and Sky
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,963
    edited July 4

    Is the Exit Poll only on BBC?

    No, shared with ITV and Sky News.

    However only the Beeb has Sir John Curtice.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,641
    Heathener said:

    Right - my first election on PB, and I know the best value bets are often to be had after the first results have started trickling in.

    Who are we following on here for tips?

    Be careful, okay?

    People try to work / spook the markets. Not on here, or not really, but they sure do elsewhere.

    Pretty safe if you stay on this site.
    Good evening @Heathener

    May I just send you my congratulations as the person who predicted this conservative collapse so long-ago

    You do deserve the credit
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 22,375
    Sean_F said:

    I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.

    Why just EU citizens? Should be anyone who is living here long enough and paying taxes. Not taxation without representation etc.
    Paying taxes is what you do in return for getting services.

    Voting should be open to UK citizens only.
    Other countries citizens who have lived here for years should be welcome to apply for citizenship - and if they get it, then they get the vote.

    If they don't want citizenship, that's their choice.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,154
    edited July 4

    source close to CCHQ now says they believe Reform will win as many as 15 seats

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1808952989618516365

    The beauty - and the horror - of polling day is that the parties really have next to no more useful information than the rest of us.

    Yes, a shit hot polling day computerised operation, with all the tellers numbers entered, can give you some stats about the relative turnout of the various canvass types, and if you’ve fought the patch before an agent can use that data to inform their guess. But those sorts of operations across a whole constituency are not as common as you’d think, and what tends to happen is that around tea time someone runs the figures, then once the evening rush starts it’s far too chaotic and ‘all hands on deck’ for someone to be sitting about pulling in data from dozens of Committee rooms, and running lots of stats. Differential turnouts are more marked, and more useful as a guide, in a local election, anyway. Plus there are enough PVs offline to cloud the picture.

    Almost all of what comes out of the parties or sources close to the parties or journalists who’ve spoken to someone who spoke to someone else, until the exit poll and for a while after, will be expectations management, nothing more.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,363

    Yep. I like LBC. Andrew Marr, Jon Sopel, Lewis Goodall, Sheilagh Fogarty

    Thanks. I thought you meant you'd be interviewed by them or something ...
  • DumbosaurusDumbosaurus Posts: 813

    Right - my first election on PB, and I know the best value bets are often to be had after the first results have started trickling in.

    Who are we following on here for tips?

    Have you got the spreadsheets yet?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046

    £30 up already. BF just settled. July election date.

    Hurrah.

    Who was that PBer that tipped a July election at 20s back in March?
    Not me. I am still large on January. Then Reform is going to get 25% and I it's all over for me.
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084
    Sky News panel has Ruth Davidson and Andy Burnham.

    Like it
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 7,168
    Scott_xP said:

    @Steven_Swinford
    Breaking:

    Rishi Sunak has given a peerage to his chief of staff Liam Booth-Smith

    Oliver Dowden, Julian Smith, Ben Wallace and Alister Jack all get knighthoods

    Sunak's other peerages include:

    Sir Graham Brady, former chairman of the 1922 committee
    Chris Grayling, former transport secretary
    Dame Eleanor Laing, deputy speaker of Commons
    Craig Mackinley
    Theresa May
    Alok Sharma

    Starmer has nominated Margaret Beckett, John Cryer, Harriet Harman, Margaret Hodge, Kevan Jones, Barbara Keeley, John Spellar and Rosie Winterton

    A penny for the thoughts of Nadine Dorries' and Nigel Adams' thoughts on Alok Sharma getting the gong. They were the three who weren't allowed to defer Johnson's wheeze of deferring the honour until the election. Those two threw their toys out of the pram. Sharma said not one word.
  • ManOfGwentManOfGwent Posts: 108

    rcs1000 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Which broadcaster do we think will have the best coverage?

    BBC for reliability and analysis, Sky for speed, ITV and C4 for conversation
    It's the modern version of a woman for babies, a boy for love and a goat for pleasure.
    goat??
    Not in Wales
    Careful now 😜
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,905

    Heathener said:

    Right - my first election on PB, and I know the best value bets are often to be had after the first results have started trickling in.

    Who are we following on here for tips?

    Be careful, okay?

    People try to work / spook the markets. Not on here, or not really, but they sure do elsewhere.

    Pretty safe if you stay on this site.
    Good evening @Heathener

    May I just send you my congratulations as the person who predicted this conservative collapse so long-ago

    You do deserve the credit
    They haven't collapsed....yet.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,025
    My wife has just has just voted. Told voting had been "steady" with just over 400 votes made in the village. I may be wrong but I do think that's down a bit.
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084

    Heathener said:

    Right - my first election on PB, and I know the best value bets are often to be had after the first results have started trickling in.

    Who are we following on here for tips?

    Be careful, okay?

    People try to work / spook the markets. Not on here, or not really, but they sure do elsewhere.

    Pretty safe if you stay on this site.
    Good evening @Heathener

    May I just send you my congratulations as the person who predicted this conservative collapse so long-ago

    You do deserve the credit
    That’s very sweet of you Big G.

    xx
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,538

    Sean_F said:

    I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.

    Why just EU citizens? Should be anyone who is living here long enough and paying taxes. Not taxation without representation etc.
    Paying taxes is what you do in return for getting services.

    Voting should be open to UK citizens only.
    Other countries citizens who have lived here for years should be welcome to apply for citizenship - and if they get it, then they get the vote.

    If they don't want citizenship, that's their choice.
    Exactly so. You make that commitment, you get the vote.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,363

    BBC reporting that along with dogs & other critters showing up at UK polling places, is at least one snake.

    I'm puzzled . . . because Beeb also reporting that Nigel Farage reportedly voted via postal ballot.

    No tortoises? Summer, after all.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    @mods

    any chance of superimposing a huge countdown clock on the site so that we can track second by second the time to the EP.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,006
    SteveS said:

    So as we move into the last hours of the Con government, I can't help but think how disappointing it has been. Love them or loathe them but Thatcher and Blair transformed the UK.

    This iteration of the Cons have not achieved that much, if you think about it. For me, the problem has been the rotating cast of PMs and cabinet ministers, which has led to constant change. Great for the political journos but this has led to a loss of focus and long-term planning.

    I think it was the purge of half the party post Brexit. A party that can include Hammond, Saj, Gauke, even Rory Stewart is a very different proposition to the current party.

    But post election I suspect the Conservatives will go right not centre.

    Quick q, but who is the most One Nation Tory likely to be eligible for the upcoming leadership race?
    Agreed. Putting aside Brexit itself it is the dismal amount of talent among the Brexit wing of the Tory Party that has been the root cause of the debacle that followed on from the 2019 GE.

    However the Tories will lurch further to the right after tonight particularly if Reform do as well as many are expecting.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    Is the Exit Poll only on BBC?

    No, shared with ITV and Sky News.

    However on the Beeb has Sir John Curtice.
    Sir John Curtice is brilliant.

    Love the guy
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,606
    Heathener said:

    Sky News panel has Ruth Davidson and Andy Burnham.

    Like it

    Yes, they;re both quite likeable, and charming. Ordinary while being clever and empathetic

    I'd be quite happy if Burnham was about to be PM. Much more than Starmer
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541

    source close to CCHQ now says they believe Reform will win as many as 15 seats

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1808952989618516365

    Given how CCHQ has performed over the last six weeks, a pinch of salt is in order.
    They don’t have enough people on the ground to tell them what’s going on.
  • CleitophonCleitophon Posts: 489
    DougSeal said:

    I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.

    After 11 years she can naturalise as a British citizen. Assuming Denmark allows dual nationality of course. It's also not cheap.
    I am a danish british dual.... so yes it is permitted
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,133

    £30 up already. BF just settled. July election date.

    Hurrah.

    Who was that PBer that tipped a July election at 20s back in March?
    Me. Just kiddin'.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,963

    Is the Exit Poll only on BBC?

    No, shared with ITV and Sky News.

    However on the Beeb has Sir John Curtice.
    Sir John Curtice is brilliant.

    Love the guy
    I love him as much as I love Dave and Jürgen.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,684
    Back in 2015 I was just about recovering from watching the epic Swindon vs Sheff Utd 5-5 classic when the exit poll dropped. An amazing night. If only I had known that it was sowing the seeds of Brexit and all that followed. Cameron wanted and expected another coalition. Would have saved a lot of pain.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,137

    £30 up already. BF just settled. July election date.

    That's £190 for my in match betting.

    My accounts were getting a bit threadbare.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,706
    Paying the bill: waitress asked me what I'm doing next.

    I almost said I'm off to get my arse spanked.
  • LloydBanksLloydBanks Posts: 45
    My wife's just back from canvassing for Labour in Croydon South and they reckon it's neck and neck there. Labour are strong bookies favourites though
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,915
    Ashfield Pheasant Report.

    Real pheasant; just found a pellet.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Ben Bradshaw doing his gotv bit by saying loads of shy Tories turning out
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    edited July 4

    I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.

    Everyone should be able to vote in one country or another but I kind of feel like it's Denmark that's wrong here. Hardly any country lets non-nationals vote in national elections. The system everyone goes for is to go by nationality. I'm not nationalistic and I think a better system would be to go by tax residence, but basically the entire world disagrees with me, and voting is done by nationality. This isn't strictly an international agreement, but it's clearly the standard.

    Occasionally a country will get a government that cynically decides it will do better if it disfranchizes some of its nationals. For a long time I couldn't vote in British elections because Labour under Blair thought I might vote Conservative. To their credit the Tories finally fixed this. It sounds like the same thing happened in Denmark, and the Danes should fix it.
  • MisterBedfordshireMisterBedfordshire Posts: 2,252

    source close to CCHQ now says they believe Reform will win as many as 15 seats

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1808952989618516365

    Rats. I laid 7 or more about an hour ago.

    :disappointed:


    Hmmm...
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,606
    TOPPING said:

    £30 up already. BF just settled. July election date.

    Hurrah.

    Who was that PBer that tipped a July election at 20s back in March?
    Not me. I am still large on January. Then Reform is going to get 25% and I it's all over for me.
    Haven't you predicted Reform down on 10% or below? I suspect you are about to be embarrassed. But feel free to merciless torment me if you're right?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,386
    edited July 4

    oh well, thanks Tories. It was an… interesting ride for the past 14 years. I’ll say that much.

    Five general elections (including three in four years) and five Prime Ministers (including five in six years and three in one year!!!) as well as three referendums the later of which resulted in Brexit.

    What a time to have been alive... 😂
  • DumbosaurusDumbosaurus Posts: 813

    My wife's just back from canvassing for Labour in Croydon South and they reckon it's neck and neck there. Labour are strong bookies favourites though

    If anyone wants to let me out of a drunken bet I made last night I'm laying £50 for you at 3 on Betfair right now
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,126

    Paying the bill: waitress asked me what I'm doing next.

    I almost said I'm off to get my arse spanked.

    Now now. you´re not Leon... Lie back, and think of the large cash returns
  • TweedledeeTweedledee Posts: 1,405

    Not long now until we split into two groups:

    - those who like what the exit poll shows and are convinced it's accurate
    - those who dislike what the exit poll shows and cast doubt on its accuracy

    I am Yeats's Irish Airman: No likely end could bring me loss Or leave me happier than before.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,915
    Scott_xP said:

    @Steven_Swinford
    Breaking:

    Rishi Sunak has given a peerage to his chief of staff Liam Booth-Smith

    Oliver Dowden, Julian Smith, Ben Wallace and Alister Jack all get knighthoods

    Sunak's other peerages include:

    Sir Graham Brady, former chairman of the 1922 committee
    Chris Grayling, former transport secretary
    Dame Eleanor Laing, deputy speaker of Commons
    Craig Mackinley
    Theresa May
    Alok Sharma

    Starmer has nominated Margaret Beckett, John Cryer, Harriet Harman, Margaret Hodge, Kevan Jones, Barbara Keeley, John Spellar and Rosie Winterton

    To praise Sunak before we bury him, that - Grayling aside - is a decent list.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,963
    Weird to think that last time we had a General Election, the WEF, Gates and Soros hadn't formally announced the plandemic yet, let alone fitted us with their 5G mind-control chips.

    https://x.com/BristOliver/status/1808964693769228513
  • johntjohnt Posts: 166
    The clock is running down slower than injury time in a football match England are winning one nil. It’s torture. .
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,684

    BBC reporting that along with dogs & other critters showing up at UK polling places, is at least one snake.

    I'm puzzled . . . because Beeb also reporting that Nigel Farage reportedly voted via postal ballot.

    I read that as repeatedly…
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,154

    £30 up already. BF just settled. July election date.

    Yes, I suddenly have £50 in my account, I don’t remember backing July so there must be other settles.

    Clever, as they know many of us will gamble the money again.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,386

    Ben Bradshaw doing his gotv bit by saying loads of shy Tories turning out

    Isn't it a bit late in the day to be doing GOTV?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,706
    Leon said:

    Heathener said:

    Sky News panel has Ruth Davidson and Andy Burnham.

    Like it

    Yes, they;re both quite likeable, and charming. Ordinary while being clever and empathetic

    I'd be quite happy if Burnham was about to be PM. Much more than Starmer
    I've got Sky on now.
  • Nunu5Nunu5 Posts: 976

    My wife's just back from canvassing for Labour in Croydon South and they reckon it's neck and neck there. Labour are strong bookies favourites though

    Labour should take that easily. But they seem to have reached a peak in London
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    My wife's just back from canvassing for Labour in Croydon South and they reckon it's neck and neck there. Labour are strong bookies favourites though

    Croydon South is a 'in the 100 to 175' bracket hold
  • TheGreenMachineTheGreenMachine Posts: 1,097
    edited July 4
    Northern Ireland Update :

    Claire Hanna [SDLP] expected to win with a huge majority.

    North Down still too close to call.

    Robin Swann [UUP] have an early lead in South Antrim.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,808

    I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.

    Fine, but bear in mind they might not all vote Met, as many on the centre-left assume.

    Look at how Europe is voting atm.
    I’m not assuming how they vote. I just think taxation should enable representation. After 5 years perhaps.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    edited July 4
    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    £30 up already. BF just settled. July election date.

    Hurrah.

    Who was that PBer that tipped a July election at 20s back in March?
    Not me. I am still large on January. Then Reform is going to get 25% and I it's all over for me.
    Haven't you predicted Reform down on 10% or below? I suspect you are about to be embarrassed. But feel free to merciless torment me if you're right?
    I have. I've backed them from 14% downwards. As I said earlier, I topped up an hour ago at below 14% and will live with the error of my judgement for some time if, as appears to be the case, they roof it.
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,187
    edited July 4
    OK - I am calling it.

    New PM ... Larry the Cat.

    The only true survivor in Downing St
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,132

    Is the Exit Poll only on BBC?

    No, shared with ITV and Sky News.

    However on the Beeb has Sir John Curtice.
    Sir John Curtice is brilliant.

    Love the guy
    Depends what he says at 10:01 to be honest.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,684
    Sean_F said:

    I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.

    Why just EU citizens? Should be anyone who is living here long enough and paying taxes. Not taxation without representation etc.
    Paying taxes is what you do in return for getting services.

    Voting should be open to UK citizens only.
    I don’t really agree. If you live somewhere, pay taxes, take part in a society, you should have a say.
  • Nunu5Nunu5 Posts: 976
    REFORM. REFORM REFORM!!!!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,606
    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    £30 up already. BF just settled. July election date.

    Hurrah.

    Who was that PBer that tipped a July election at 20s back in March?
    Not me. I am still large on January. Then Reform is going to get 25% and I it's all over for me.
    Haven't you predicted Reform down on 10% or below? I suspect you are about to be embarrassed. But feel free to merciless torment me if you're right?
    I have. I've backed them from 14% downwards. As I said earlier, I topped up an hour ago at below 14% and will live with the error of my judgement for some time if, as appears to be the case, they roof it.
    TBF it's very hard to call

    I reckon they will get 15-17%
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    edited July 4
    GIN1138 said:

    Ben Bradshaw doing his gotv bit by saying loads of shy Tories turning out

    Isn't it a bit late in the day to be doing GOTV?
    It's from an hour or two ago, sorry, I've been out
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,137
    Sean_F said:

    I spoke to a colleague in the office today. An EU Citizen who has lived in the UK since 2013, paid taxes etc, PhD from a UK university and a specialist in her field. She can’t vote here. She also noted she can no longer vote in her own country Denmark, as she doesn’t pay tax there. This to me is wrong and I sincerely hope Starmer will rectify to allow resident EU citizens to vote at GE after a qualifying period of paying UK tax.

    Why just EU citizens? Should be anyone who is living here long enough and paying taxes. Not taxation without representation etc.
    Paying taxes is what you do in return for getting services.

    Voting should be open to UK citizens only.
    It has never been.

    Someone just a month off the plane from Rwanda can vote, but not a Dane.
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