In lighter news, it looks like the one judge Trump never attacks online, in his Mar-a-Lago case, has gotten a bit smarter with things, by not delaying his May trial date, but reassessing it come March. She can then make a fair decision to delay (it's possible) or an unfair decision to delay, without showing her hand too soon.
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
All the venting about the protests from grifting tommeh and co on Twitter, or whatever it is called, from left of centre posters totally ignoring the equally sinister anti semitic undertones of some of the marchers on the other side.
Increasingly social media debates seem to comprise one group of people accusing another group of hypocrisy. I’d say at least 40% of all “takes” on Twitter on Israel-Palestine and a reasonable proportion on Ukraine (or Brexit on here) are some form of pointing out of hypocrisy.
The fact is we are all hypocrites in one way or another. Human nature.
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
Not sure what he would add to the online discussion.
That's not even a slam on Jones, in his area he's a man to be noticed, I just mean that I am fairly sure twitter's general atmosphere would mean there will be countless pics and comments from the event.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
Ironically, many on the Israeli right would agree and urge all Jews to come and live in Israel. Fortunately for Britain and the Jews, it is melodramatic nonsense.
Melodramatic perhaps, but I do think the last month has shown there is still a considerable amount of anti-semitism in this country, just waiting beneath the surface.
That partly depends on conflating Jews and Israel, and for that matter there is a degree of anti-everything. Today we have tens of thousands marching in London. Are they all antisemites? Is everyone not marching Islamophobic? Thankfully we do not see the Thames or Tiber foaming with much blood.
I think he'd have a good chance with Tory members. But I think finding him a seat in Parliament would be tricky, so it's probably a no.
Also, how would he get in the top two for Tory MPs?
Not. Happening.
Why would the MPs necessarily object? Rees-Mogg, for example, stated a few years ago that UKIP were members of the wider conservative family and the Tories should grasp them to their bosom.
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
All the venting about the protests from grifting tommeh and co on Twitter, or whatever it is called, from left of centre posters totally ignoring the equally sinister anti semitic undertones of some of the marchers on the other side.
When you hear 300,000 people absolutely SHRIEKING “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” as they are addressed by alleged anti-Semite Piers Corbyn, I suggest we have a tiny problem with anti Semitism, yes
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
As far as I can see Israel are going to keep on pounding gaza on the basis that it is 'fighting terrorists' and those on the 'free palestine' left will carry on alienating themselves from mainstream public opinion by doing things like having marches on rememberence day when asked not to. I don't see how any of this helps the cause of freeing palestine.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
I was just pondering the irony that they don't also find common cause with their far right fellow travellers in Hamas.
I mean, Netanyahu has. They're very useful to him. Or were.
I think he'd have a good chance with Tory members. But I think finding him a seat in Parliament would be tricky, so it's probably a no.
Also, how would he get in the top two for Tory MPs?
Not. Happening.
Why would the MPs necessarily object? Rees-Mogg, for example, stated a few years ago that UKIP were members of the wider conservative family and the Tories should grasp them to their bosom.
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
I was just pondering the irony that they don't also find common cause with their far right fellow travellers in Hamas.
I mean, Netanyahu has. They're very useful to him. Or were.
"For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces "The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from"
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
All the venting about the protests from grifting tommeh and co on Twitter, or whatever it is called, from left of centre posters totally ignoring the equally sinister anti semitic undertones of some of the marchers on the other side.
When you hear 300,000 people absolutely SHRIEKING “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” as they are addressed by alleged anti-Semite Piers Corbyn, I suggest we have a tiny problem with anti Semitism, yes
You reckon that the well-being of the Jewish people requires Palestine to be oppressed? What a bizarre take.
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
All the venting about the protests from grifting tommeh and co on Twitter, or whatever it is called, from left of centre posters totally ignoring the equally sinister anti semitic undertones of some of the marchers on the other side.
When you hear 300,000 people absolutely SHRIEKING “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” as they are addressed by alleged anti-Semite Piers Corbyn, I suggest we have a tiny problem with anti Semitism, yes
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
All the venting about the protests from grifting tommeh and co on Twitter, or whatever it is called, from left of centre posters totally ignoring the equally sinister anti semitic undertones of some of the marchers on the other side.
When you hear 300,000 people absolutely SHRIEKING “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” as they are addressed by alleged anti-Semite Piers Corbyn, I suggest we have a tiny problem with anti Semitism, yes
Based on the pictures, there are not 300,000 marchers and only a couple of dozen are in danger of hearing anything Piers Corbyn says.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
By the same Double Standards token there is no shortage of 'muscular liberals' normally most keen to say there is no right to be protected from offence who strike a different tone when confronted with this one.
Why? Well my more than tentative explanation is that said muscular liberals when they talked about there being no right to be protected from offence meant specifically Muslims..
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
As far as I can see Israel are going to keep on pounding gaza on the basis that it is 'fighting terrorists' and those on the 'free palestine' left will carry on alienating themselves from mainstream public opinion by doing things like having marches on rememberence day when asked not to. I don't see how any of this helps the cause of freeing palestine.
I hope they all have a nice day out and shopkeepers and pubs have lots of business.
But in the end it wont achieve much except to highlight our irrelevance.
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
Ironically, many on the Israeli right would agree and urge all Jews to come and live in Israel. Fortunately for Britain and the Jews, it is melodramatic nonsense.
Melodramatic perhaps, but I do think the last month has shown there is still a considerable amount of anti-semitism in this country, just waiting beneath the surface.
That partly depends on conflating Jews and Israel, and for that matter there is a degree of anti-everything. Today we have tens of thousands marching in London. Are they all antisemites? Is everyone not marching Islamophobic? Thankfully we do not see the Thames or Tiber foaming with much blood.
I couldn't put a number on how many of the marchers (or counter marchers) are antisemites. I don't doubt it is a very small percentage.
But I do think we've seen enough overtly anti-semitic examples in protests around the globe and some here, with people very open and honest about it in their imagery or words, to be confident that small percentage is a big big problem. The counter-marchers is a good case in point - they may be small in number, but their motivations and actions will be taken very seriously nonetheless, as it should.
I am confident anyone who tears down pictures of captured israelis is motivated by anti-semitism (even where not all the captured will be jewish).
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
Ironically, many on the Israeli right would agree and urge all Jews to come and live in Israel. Fortunately for Britain and the Jews, it is melodramatic nonsense.
Melodramatic perhaps, but I do think the last month has shown there is still a considerable amount of anti-semitism in this country, just waiting beneath the surface.
That partly depends on conflating Jews and Israel, and for that matter there is a degree of anti-everything. Today we have tens of thousands marching in London. Are they all antisemites? Is everyone not marching Islamophobic? Thankfully we do not see the Thames or Tiber foaming with much blood.
I couldn't put a number on how many of the marchers (or counter marchers) are antisemites. I don't doubt it is a very small percentage.
But I do think we've seen enough overtly anti-semitic examples in protests around the globe and some here, with people very open and honest about it in their imagery or words, to be confident that small percentage is a big big problem. The counter-marchers is a good case in point - they may be small in number, but their motivations and actions will be taken very seriously nonetheless, as it should.
I am confident anyone who tears down pictures of captured israelis is motivated by anti-semitism (even where not all the captured will be jewish).
I'm not at all confident that only a small proportion of the marchers are anti-semites. I've seldom seen such a hate-filled mob. (Granted, I'm not there - only seeing what the media are showing me.)
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
As far as I can see Israel are going to keep on pounding gaza on the basis that it is 'fighting terrorists' and those on the 'free palestine' left will carry on alienating themselves from mainstream public opinion by doing things like having marches on rememberence day when asked not to. I don't see how any of this helps the cause of freeing palestine.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
By the same Double Standards token there is no shortage of 'muscular liberals' normally most keen to say there is no right to be protected from offence who strike a different tone when confronted with this one.
Why? Well my more than tentative explanation is that said muscular liberals when they talked about there being no right to be protected from offence meant specifically Muslims..
It is certainly true that some of the biggest snowflakes can be found on the right, and the right can be just as keen on banning things and people as the left. It's no surprise people are more keen on drawing a line on offensive content when it approaches their own personal bugbears.
Liberal is just a misused term generally, I'd not be confident in anyone's self assessment as such.
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
No surprise the UK far left find common cause with Gaza's terroristic, anti-Semitic government.
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
No surprise the UK far left find common cause with Gaza's terroristic, anti-Semitic government.
And yet it's Israel's far-right government that have killed over 11,000 people in just five weeks...
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
As far as I can see Israel are going to keep on pounding gaza on the basis that it is 'fighting terrorists' and those on the 'free palestine' left will carry on alienating themselves from mainstream public opinion by doing things like having marches on rememberence day when asked not to. I don't see how any of this helps the cause of freeing palestine.
Er, they didn't have their march when asked not to on Remembrance Day. Remembrance Day is tomorrow. The big march is today.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Good times - a government administrative reorganisation that, whilst not perfect or complete, has been positive and effective for many areas.
'Cheshire West and Cheshire' still remains one of the stupidest and clumsiest names imaginable for a county.
Why didn't they just call them 'Chester' and 'Crewe?'
Yes, it's a tautology. Chester is in West Cheshire. West Cheshire is tge western half of the county of Chester. Either half of the name would have done. Though 'Crewe' is more of a stretch. My main complaint about Cheshire East is that East Cheshire would have been better.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Good times - a government administrative reorganisation that, whilst not perfect or complete, has been positive and effective for many areas.
'Cheshire West and Cheshire' still remains one of the stupidest and clumsiest names imaginable for a county.
Why didn't they just call them 'Chester' and 'Crewe?'
Yes, it's a tautology. Chester is in West Cheshire. West Cheshire is tge western half of the county of Chester. Either half of the name would have done. Though 'Crewe' is more of a stretch. My main complaint about Cheshire East is that East Cheshire would have been better.
Anyway, 'From the Pennines to the Dee' would work better.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Good times - a government administrative reorganisation that, whilst not perfect or complete, has been positive and effective for many areas.
'Cheshire West and Cheshire' still remains one of the stupidest and clumsiest names imaginable for a county.
Why didn't they just call them 'Chester' and 'Crewe?'
You can't just call it (Greater) Chester without annoying everyone outside the city, terrified of a takeover.
You can't leave Chester out of the name, proud ancient city yada yada.
Naming new council areas is a pain. So you get Romford+Hornchurch called Havering and Redbridge named after... a Red Bridge which doesn't even exist any more.
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
Ironically, many on the Israeli right would agree and urge all Jews to come and live in Israel. Fortunately for Britain and the Jews, it is melodramatic nonsense.
Melodramatic perhaps, but I do think the last month has shown there is still a considerable amount of anti-semitism in this country, just waiting beneath the surface.
That partly depends on conflating Jews and Israel, and for that matter there is a degree of anti-everything. Today we have tens of thousands marching in London. Are they all antisemites? Is everyone not marching Islamophobic? Thankfully we do not see the Thames or Tiber foaming with much blood.
I couldn't put a number on how many of the marchers (or counter marchers) are antisemites. I don't doubt it is a very small percentage.
But I do think we've seen enough overtly anti-semitic examples in protests around the globe and some here, with people very open and honest about it in their imagery or words, to be confident that small percentage is a big big problem. The counter-marchers is a good case in point - they may be small in number, but their motivations and actions will be taken very seriously nonetheless, as it should.
I am confident anyone who tears down pictures of captured israelis is motivated by anti-semitism (even where not all the captured will be jewish).
I'd say the (few) people tearing down pictures are more likely to be opposed to Israel than to Jews. Of course, it might be that when they get to court it turns out they have a long and inglorious history of hostility to British Jews but until then, I remain unconvinced. Of course, taking the view that because Israel is the Jewish state, any opposition to it is probably antisemitic, then yes, they are.
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
Ironically, many on the Israeli right would agree and urge all Jews to come and live in Israel. Fortunately for Britain and the Jews, it is melodramatic nonsense.
Melodramatic perhaps, but I do think the last month has shown there is still a considerable amount of anti-semitism in this country, just waiting beneath the surface.
That partly depends on conflating Jews and Israel, and for that matter there is a degree of anti-everything. Today we have tens of thousands marching in London. Are they all antisemites? Is everyone not marching Islamophobic? Thankfully we do not see the Thames or Tiber foaming with much blood.
I couldn't put a number on how many of the marchers (or counter marchers) are antisemites. I don't doubt it is a very small percentage.
But I do think we've seen enough overtly anti-semitic examples in protests around the globe and some here, with people very open and honest about it in their imagery or words, to be confident that small percentage is a big big problem. The counter-marchers is a good case in point - they may be small in number, but their motivations and actions will be taken very seriously nonetheless, as it should.
I am confident anyone who tears down pictures of captured israelis is motivated by anti-semitism (even where not all the captured will be jewish).
I'm not at all confident that only a small proportion of the marchers are anti-semites. I've seldom seen such a hate-filled mob. (Granted, I'm not there - only seeing what the media are showing me.)
Well, I'm trying desperately to maintain my optimism over the numbers openly motivated by such.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Good times - a government administrative reorganisation that, whilst not perfect or complete, has been positive and effective for many areas.
'Cheshire West and Cheshire' still remains one of the stupidest and clumsiest names imaginable for a county.
Why didn't they just call them 'Chester' and 'Crewe?'
You can't just call it (Greater) Chester without annoying everyone outside the city, terrified of a takeover.
You can't leave Chester out of the name, proud ancient city yada yada.
Naming new council areas is a pain. So you get Romford+Hornchurch called Havering and Redbridge named after... a Red Bridge which doesn't even exist any more.
There are some others. Bath and North East a Somerset. Blackburn with Darwen. Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole is a bad one.
But - 'Chester' managed to not be named separately in the county name for over nine hundred years. I think it could have survived not being precisely named.
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
All the venting about the protests from grifting tommeh and co on Twitter, or whatever it is called, from left of centre posters totally ignoring the equally sinister anti semitic undertones of some of the marchers on the other side.
When you hear 300,000 people absolutely SHRIEKING “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” as they are addressed by alleged anti-Semite Piers Corbyn, I suggest we have a tiny problem with anti Semitism, yes
I find it quite amazing how that chant has been normalised....if I walked around London chanting about demanding the UK is freed by removing all non-white people from the country, I would quite rightly be arrested for racism.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
Ironically, many on the Israeli right would agree and urge all Jews to come and live in Israel. Fortunately for Britain and the Jews, it is melodramatic nonsense.
Melodramatic perhaps, but I do think the last month has shown there is still a considerable amount of anti-semitism in this country, just waiting beneath the surface.
That partly depends on conflating Jews and Israel, and for that matter there is a degree of anti-everything. Today we have tens of thousands marching in London. Are they all antisemites? Is everyone not marching Islamophobic? Thankfully we do not see the Thames or Tiber foaming with much blood.
I couldn't put a number on how many of the marchers (or counter marchers) are antisemites. I don't doubt it is a very small percentage.
But I do think we've seen enough overtly anti-semitic examples in protests around the globe and some here, with people very open and honest about it in their imagery or words, to be confident that small percentage is a big big problem. The counter-marchers is a good case in point - they may be small in number, but their motivations and actions will be taken very seriously nonetheless, as it should.
I am confident anyone who tears down pictures of captured israelis is motivated by anti-semitism (even where not all the captured will be jewish).
I'd say the (few) people tearing down pictures are more likely to be opposed to Israel than to Jews. Of course, it might be that when they get to court it turns out they have a long and inglorious history of hostility to British Jews but until then, I remain unconvinced. Of course, taking the view that because Israel is the Jewish state, any opposition to it is probably antisemitic, then yes, they are.
I don't take the view that any opposition to the Israeli state is antisemitic. But because I see it as very easy to side with the Palestinians against Israeli overreaction without downplaying the atrocities of Hamas, I see no reason to seek to deny or disguise those atrocities by removing the pictures of the captured or dead, unless motivated by a much more visceral hatred of the (mostly) jewish victims.
People may not have a 'solution' to this whole crisis because, well, it's beyond all of us, but they could still oppose the current Israeli action without celebrating or denying what happened. Some do just that, and those people I condemn. Others, it is much more complicated.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Good times - a government administrative reorganisation that, whilst not perfect or complete, has been positive and effective for many areas.
'Cheshire West and Cheshire' still remains one of the stupidest and clumsiest names imaginable for a county.
Why didn't they just call them 'Chester' and 'Crewe?'
Yes, it's a tautology. Chester is in West Cheshire. West Cheshire is tge western half of the county of Chester. Either half of the name would have done. Though 'Crewe' is more of a stretch. My main complaint about Cheshire East is that East Cheshire would have been better.
Anyway, 'From the Pennines to the Dee' would work better.
The Mersey does flow through Stockport, you know!
Anyway:
From the Roding to Lea, Newham will be free!
From the Sara-Jane to the Mee, Sky News will be free!
From the flower to the bee, Manuka Honey will be free!
And we’re shut. £556.13 in takings, which looks like c £94 of profit. A decent start.
You posted a link on Facebook earlier but I got this message "This content isn't available at the moment When this happens, it's usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people or changed who can see it, or it's been deleted.".
Knuckle draggers have a bust up with the plod, they are treated robustly and arrested. The Tw@tterati say its Braverman's fault, sack her now, they wouldn't have come without what she said. The knuckle draggers will claim see the plod don't treat everybody equally and play the martyr. While the march has people advocating for global interfada, chanting for removal of all Jews from Israel under the cover of a ditty chant, some small groups are openly antisemitic, while the police film them and perhaps arrest a couple in a weeks time.
And tomorrow / next week it will all be about the dangers of right wing racists and that Braverman is the new Donald Trump.
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
No surprise the UK far left find common cause with Gaza's terroristic, anti-Semitic government.
And yet it's Israel's far-right government that have killed over 11,000 people in just five weeks...
In the context of what Hamas did last month.
And does what Israel does mean that supporting a terroristic, anti-Semitic government is fine and dandy?
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Good times - a government administrative reorganisation that, whilst not perfect or complete, has been positive and effective for many areas.
'Cheshire West and Cheshire' still remains one of the stupidest and clumsiest names imaginable for a county.
Why didn't they just call them 'Chester' and 'Crewe?'
Yes, it's a tautology. Chester is in West Cheshire. West Cheshire is tge western half of the county of Chester. Either half of the name would have done. Though 'Crewe' is more of a stretch. My main complaint about Cheshire East is that East Cheshire would have been better.
Anyway, 'From the Pennines to the Dee' would work better.
From the Pennines to the Dee Let's stop and have a cup of tea
An absolutely openly anti semitic rally here (Piers Corbyn is present of course)
A guy just spoke on the megaphone and said “Zionism is taking over the world” - and got very loud cheers
You can believe me or not
I'm sure they have in their minds a very good reason for including it, but if I had to give advice to the banner holders, including 'boycott McDonalds' in between one about respecting armistices and one about genocide in Gaza may have visually been a mistake.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Lewis Gooddall says that when he questions people on the march about the phrase 'from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free' they say it is misunderstood. Just waiting for someone to explain the true meaning then.
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
All the venting about the protests from grifting tommeh and co on Twitter, or whatever it is called, from left of centre posters totally ignoring the equally sinister anti semitic undertones of some of the marchers on the other side.
When you hear 300,000 people absolutely SHRIEKING “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” as they are addressed by alleged anti-Semite Piers Corbyn, I suggest we have a tiny problem with anti Semitism, yes
You reckon that the well-being of the Jewish people requires Palestine to be oppressed? What a bizarre take.
These people - the whole lot of them, had sensible British rule and they chose this nonsense.
I think it's clear that the French are at base, responsible for any and all unrest.
The US is almost as bad. They've meddled in the Med for centuries, and they're as unwelcome now as when they started.
I sometimes if the big mistake with unitaries was to call them counties rather than districts.
You can have counties - purely ceremonial and people could decide to use the pre-1973 names if they wished - and districts, as a unit of local government, named after the town where the district council meets, which people are generally already used to.
So you could still have 'Cheshire' but 'Chester District' and 'Sandbach district.'
And still Northamptonshire, but divided into Corby District and Northampton District.
Lewis Gooddall says that when he questions people on the march about the phrase 'from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free' they say it is misunderstood. Just waiting for someone to explain the true meaning then.
Nick Ferrari gave Ben Jamal 5 chances to explain it.
If a slogan or chant is frequently misunderstood (by more than just your political opponents), then it is time to change it, as indeed some have attempted.
If you stick with it even when it is frequently misunderstood, to the undermining of your cause, you're just being stupidly stubborn and for what? A slogan.
See also Defund the Cops, although more people might actually be on board with that on its own merits now.
Lewis Gooddall says that when he questions people on the march about the phrase 'from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free' they say it is misunderstood. Just waiting for someone to explain the true meaning then.
Nick Ferrari gave Ben Jamal 5 chances to explain it.
Its because the meaning is absolutely clear.
Again, you can absolutely go on a march saying that Israel is overstepping the mark here, that there needs to be restraint, there needs to be more done to get aid into Gaza...when you start chanting a terrorist slogan that advocating for the elimination of Jews from Israel, that in my mind isn't a peace march protesting for both sides to come together to find a two state solution.
Lewis Gooddall says that when he questions people on the march about the phrase 'from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free' they say it is misunderstood. Just waiting for someone to explain the true meaning then.
Nick Ferrari gave Ben Jamal 5 chances to explain it.
If a slogan or chant is frequently misunderstood (by more than just your political opponents), then it is time to change it, as indeed some have attempted.
If you stick with it even when it is frequently misunderstood, to the undermining of your cause, you're just being stupidly stubborn and for what? A slogan.
See also Defund the Cops, although more people might actually be on board with that on its own merits now.
It's a bit like the time a Senator said the 29 allegations of sexual harassment against him were 'like car crashes - a matter of perception.' To which the interviewer replied, 'Senator, if you have 29 car crashes, you shouldn't be driving.'
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
All the venting about the protests from grifting tommeh and co on Twitter, or whatever it is called, from left of centre posters totally ignoring the equally sinister anti semitic undertones of some of the marchers on the other side.
When you hear 300,000 people absolutely SHRIEKING “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” as they are addressed by alleged anti-Semite Piers Corbyn, I suggest we have a tiny problem with anti Semitism, yes
Nutter.
Why is he ?
We do have a problem with anti semitism.
The left and the media will focus on r tommeh but the anti semitism from a small minority of the pro Palestine marchers is deeply unpleasant.
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
No surprise the UK far left find common cause with Gaza's terroristic, anti-Semitic government.
And yet it's Israel's far-right government that have killed over 11,000 people in just five weeks...
In the context of what Hamas did last month.
And does what Israel does mean that supporting a terroristic, anti-Semitic government is fine and dandy?
Who are the terrorists bombing civilians right now?
Lewis Gooddall says that when he questions people on the march about the phrase 'from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free' they say it is misunderstood. Just waiting for someone to explain the true meaning then.
Nick Ferrari gave Ben Jamal 5 chances to explain it.
I saw him interviewed on C4 News recently. Krishnan GM asked him several times whether Israel had a right to exist. He just could not bring himself to say it did - for fear of falling out with his friends in Hamas, I guess.
Lewis Gooddall says that when he questions people on the march about the phrase 'from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free' they say it is misunderstood. Just waiting for someone to explain the true meaning then.
Nick Ferrari gave Ben Jamal 5 chances to explain it.
If a slogan or chant is frequently misunderstood (by more than just your political opponents), then it is time to change it, as indeed some have attempted.
If you stick with it even when it is frequently misunderstood, to the undermining of your cause, you're just being stupidly stubborn and for what? A slogan.
See also Defund the Cops, although more people might actually be on board with that on its own merits now.
Maybe its just me. The same way as it really isn't hard to criticise Israel without incorporating Jewish tropes, perhaps if you don't want to be perceived on the side of terrorists or that you advocating for the elimination of Israel, you might be better off staying well clear.
Its a bit like people going to Halloween in black face, then saying yeah but, its not racist, because its a homage to Jay-Z, who is an incredible rapper and brilliant businessman....
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Good times - a government administrative reorganisation that, whilst not perfect or complete, has been positive and effective for many areas.
'Cheshire West and Cheshire' still remains one of the stupidest and clumsiest names imaginable for a county.
Why didn't they just call them 'Chester' and 'Crewe?'
Yes, it's a tautology. Chester is in West Cheshire. West Cheshire is tge western half of the county of Chester. Either half of the name would have done. Though 'Crewe' is more of a stretch. My main complaint about Cheshire East is that East Cheshire would have been better.
Anyway, 'From the Pennines to the Dee' would work better.
The Mersey does flow through Stockport, you know!
Anyway:
From the Roding to Lea, Newham will be free!
From the Sara-Jane to the Mee, Sky News will be free!
From the flower to the bee, Manuka Honey will be free!
Well yes. But the Mersey is Cheshire's northern boundary, and the Dee its western. Normally we would go North to South or East to West.
While we're complaining about that sort of thing, I always wondered why Kim Wilde bounded the Kids in America "New York to East California". Missing out New England in orderto make things scan I can understand, but why not West California? I can only assume she got her easts and wests muddled.
I sometimes if the big mistake with unitaries was to call them counties rather than districts.
You can have counties - purely ceremonial and people could decide to use the pre-1973 names if they wished - and districts, as a unit of local government, named after the town where the district council meets, which people are generally already used to.
So you could still have 'Cheshire' but 'Chester District' and 'Sandbach district.'
And still Northamptonshire, but divided into Corby District and Northampton District.
Seems neater, anyway.
I'm not sure that is the issue. Plenty of Unitaries are not called counties, and it seems relatively common to drop the county label when forming the unitary, (Wiltshire, Cornwall, Somerset), with some matching the ceremonial county area and some not.
Surely the problem is we have ceremonial, administrative, and historic counties.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Good times - a government administrative reorganisation that, whilst not perfect or complete, has been positive and effective for many areas.
'Cheshire West and Cheshire' still remains one of the stupidest and clumsiest names imaginable for a county.
Why didn't they just call them 'Chester' and 'Crewe?'
Yes, it's a tautology. Chester is in West Cheshire. West Cheshire is tge western half of the county of Chester. Either half of the name would have done. Though 'Crewe' is more of a stretch. My main complaint about Cheshire East is that East Cheshire would have been better.
Anyway, 'From the Pennines to the Dee' would work better.
The Mersey does flow through Stockport, you know!
Anyway:
From the Roding to Lea, Newham will be free!
From the Sara-Jane to the Mee, Sky News will be free!
From the flower to the bee, Manuka Honey will be free!
Well yes. But the Mersey is Cheshire's northern boundary, and the Dee its western. Normally we would go North to South or East to West.
While we're complaining about that sort of thing, I always wondered why Kim Wilde bounded the Kids in America "New York to East California". Missing out New England in orderto make things scan I can understand, but why not West California? I can only assume she got her easts and wests muddled.
Pity the poor folks of East Virginia, and let's not forget the miserable sods down in South Macedonia!
I sometimes if the big mistake with unitaries was to call them counties rather than districts.
You can have counties - purely ceremonial and people could decide to use the pre-1973 names if they wished - and districts, as a unit of local government, named after the town where the district council meets, which people are generally already used to.
So you could still have 'Cheshire' but 'Chester District' and 'Sandbach district.'
And still Northamptonshire, but divided into Corby District and Northampton District.
Seems neater, anyway.
That was also the big mistake withe the 1974 reorganisation. Have a council for the area of Lancaster and Preston and Blackpool and Burnley and Chorleyand Blackburn - but don't call it Lancashire. Or even a county.Would have got far fewer backs up.
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
No surprise the UK far left find common cause with Gaza's terroristic, anti-Semitic government.
And yet it's Israel's far-right government that have killed over 11,000 people in just five weeks...
In the context of what Hamas did last month.
And does what Israel does mean that supporting a terroristic, anti-Semitic government is fine and dandy?
Who are the terrorists bombing civilians right now?
Are Hamas still firing rockets?
You cannot look at what's happening and put all the ire on Israel. Hamas have a massive responsibility for what is going on, at a number of different levels.
If Hamas wanted peace then they should release all the hostages. It'd be simple for them too do that, and if they did, Israel would have much less reason to do what they're doing now. But Hamas won't.
In Swindon they had a reorginsation a number of years ago by parishing the borough.
Perfectly possible to do with a mostly urban area of course, but it has resulted in some less than catchy names, such as Central Swindon North Parish Council.
Police say faked audio purporting to capture the Mayor of London calling for Armistice Day to be re-scheduled for a pro-Palestinian march "does not constitute a criminal offence". A Met spokesperson said specialist officers had reviewed the content.
If that is the case, and not the MET being thick as pig shit in regards to powers they have (because we all know how great the "specialist officers" are), the government need to get on this ASAP.
You should be able to make parodies, but it should be clearly labelled as such. Attempts to spend such material maliciously should be an offense. ML-based dubbing of video with the new audio that includes adjusting the lip sync is also getting extremely good.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
From the Mersey to the Dee, Cheshire will be free!
Good times - a government administrative reorganisation that, whilst not perfect or complete, has been positive and effective for many areas.
'Cheshire West and Cheshire' still remains one of the stupidest and clumsiest names imaginable for a county.
Why didn't they just call them 'Chester' and 'Crewe?'
Yes, it's a tautology. Chester is in West Cheshire. West Cheshire is tge western half of the county of Chester. Either half of the name would have done. Though 'Crewe' is more of a stretch. My main complaint about Cheshire East is that East Cheshire would have been better.
Anyway, 'From the Pennines to the Dee' would work better.
From the Pennines to the Dee Let's stop and have a cup of tea
By the way, Cheshire is absolutely heartbreakingly beautiful today. I've been to Lymm. You can see why people take to religion on a day like this: you need something to thank for such beauty.
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
No surprise the UK far left find common cause with Gaza's terroristic, anti-Semitic government.
And yet it's Israel's far-right government that have killed over 11,000 people in just five weeks...
In the context of what Hamas did last month.
And does what Israel does mean that supporting a terroristic, anti-Semitic government is fine and dandy?
Who are the terrorists bombing civilians right now?
Are Hamas still firing rockets?
You cannot look at what's happening and put all the ire on Israel. Hamas have a massive responsibility for what is going on, at a number of different levels.
If Hamas wanted peace then they should release all the hostages. It'd be simple for them too do that, and if they did, Israel would have much less reason to do what they're doing now. But Hamas won't.
For all we know the hostages are probably dead under all that rubble resulting from the IDF airstrikes. Probably.
Sums things up in a nutshell... (((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 1h In any other context the Left say “if a minority community say they find something offensive or oppressive we must respect that and listen to their lived experience”. Then we have “From the River to the Sea”. At which point it becomes “shut up, we’ll decide what it means”.
I don't agree with the view that just because a group finds something offensive it automatically should be accepted as such (though it should be reasonably considered when deciding it), but it is a fair point that those who do adopt that approach cannot reasonably reject it for one specific area or group.
For me the key indicator it is an offensive slogan is the attempts made to modulate it, the 'between the river and the sea' variant seen a bit recently. It's a tacit admission the original being seen as problematic has some acceptance behind it, so best to adjust.
By the same Double Standards token there is no shortage of 'muscular liberals' normally most keen to say there is no right to be protected from offence who strike a different tone when confronted with this one.
Why? Well my more than tentative explanation is that said muscular liberals when they talked about there being no right to be protected from offence meant specifically Muslims..
It is certainly true that some of the biggest snowflakes can be found on the right, and the right can be just as keen on banning things and people as the left. It's no surprise people are more keen on drawing a line on offensive content when it approaches their own personal bugbears.
Liberal is just a misused term generally, I'd not be confident in anyone's self assessment as such.
You're accurate and reasonable with your parsing as you often are. It's a bit sterile to trade examples of double standards but I felt I should since we're hearing so much about those on the left. And yes, the right are unbelievable snowflakes, total cry-babies, but here I'm thinking of a less soft and obvious target, people who make big play of their liberalism yet lose it on this issue. But anyway, all of this type of discourse is trivial and self-indulgent compared to what's actually happening in Gaza.
No. It’s hilarious. The crowd turned on him because one guy with a megaphone denounced him as a Marxist and a thief and a Freemason and everyone looked confused
True story
One of the more bizarre aspects of Hamas is they blame Freemasonry for spreading ideas of gender equality.
Because obviously, an organisation open in its key areas only to men is an organisation that's dedicated to improving the lot of women and stopping them from understanding they are (in Hamas' words) 'the makers of men.'
This is the Judeo-Masonic conspiracy thing I guess. They are in cahoots you know to take over the world etc etc...
Originally, the Freemasons and the real non-conspiracy Illuminati were about separation of church and state. They advocated politics and society being driven by science, not theology.
This is long gone, of course, but it explains the animus against them from various religions.
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
No surprise the UK far left find common cause with Gaza's terroristic, anti-Semitic government.
And yet it's Israel's far-right government that have killed over 11,000 people in just five weeks...
In the context of what Hamas did last month.
And does what Israel does mean that supporting a terroristic, anti-Semitic government is fine and dandy?
Who are the terrorists bombing civilians right now?
It is true that Hamas are hiding behind the civil population. I'm pretty sure it's also true that the IDF are doing whatever they can to keep civilian casualties as small as they can, but that amounts to a big, and unacceptable, number (One is unacceptable). The Israelis are definitely not terrorists.
If the other opponents of Israel had come out and condemned Hamas and helped the Israelis track down and call these terrorists to justice then far fewer civilians would have died. They didn't do so because they don't care about Palestinian lives, and it's ridiculous that they chose to march about claiming they do.
Nonetheless the average protestor has a very good point.
And we’re shut. £556.13 in takings, which looks like c £94 of profit. A decent start.
You posted a link on Facebook earlier but I got this message "This content isn't available at the moment When this happens, it's usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people or changed who can see it, or it's been deleted.".
No. It’s hilarious. The crowd turned on him because one guy with a megaphone denounced him as a Marxist and a thief and a Freemason and everyone looked confused
True story
One of the more bizarre aspects of Hamas is they blame Freemasonry for spreading ideas of gender equality.
Because obviously, an organisation open in its key areas only to men is an organisation that's dedicated to improving the lot of women and stopping them from understanding they are (in Hamas' words) 'the makers of men.'
This is the Judeo-Masonic conspiracy thing I guess. They are in cahoots you know to take over the world etc etc...
Originally, the Freemasons and the real non-conspiracy Illuminati were about separation of church and state. They advocated politics and society being driven by science, not theology.
This is long gone, of course, but it explains the animus against them from various religions.
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
No surprise the UK far left find common cause with Gaza's terroristic, anti-Semitic government.
And yet it's Israel's far-right government that have killed over 11,000 people in just five weeks...
In the context of what Hamas did last month.
And does what Israel does mean that supporting a terroristic, anti-Semitic government is fine and dandy?
Who are the terrorists bombing civilians right now?
Are Hamas still firing rockets?
You cannot look at what's happening and put all the ire on Israel. Hamas have a massive responsibility for what is going on, at a number of different levels.
If Hamas wanted peace then they should release all the hostages. It'd be simple for them too do that, and if they did, Israel would have much less reason to do what they're doing now. But Hamas won't.
For all we know the hostages are probably dead under all that rubble resulting from the IDF airstrikes. Probably.
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
No surprise the UK far left find common cause with Gaza's terroristic, anti-Semitic government.
And yet it's Israel's far-right government that have killed over 11,000 people in just five weeks...
In the context of what Hamas did last month.
And does what Israel does mean that supporting a terroristic, anti-Semitic government is fine and dandy?
Who are the terrorists bombing civilians right now?
Are Hamas still firing rockets?
You cannot look at what's happening and put all the ire on Israel. Hamas have a massive responsibility for what is going on, at a number of different levels.
If Hamas wanted peace then they should release all the hostages. It'd be simple for them too do that, and if they did, Israel would have much less reason to do what they're doing now. But Hamas won't.
For all we know the hostages are probably dead under all that rubble resulting from the IDF airstrikes. Probably.
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
No surprise the UK far left find common cause with Gaza's terroristic, anti-Semitic government.
And yet it's Israel's far-right government that have killed over 11,000 people in just five weeks...
In the context of what Hamas did last month.
And does what Israel does mean that supporting a terroristic, anti-Semitic government is fine and dandy?
Who are the terrorists bombing civilians right now?
Are Hamas still firing rockets?
You cannot look at what's happening and put all the ire on Israel. Hamas have a massive responsibility for what is going on, at a number of different levels.
If Hamas wanted peace then they should release all the hostages. It'd be simple for them too do that, and if they did, Israel would have much less reason to do what they're doing now. But Hamas won't.
For all we know the hostages are probably dead under all that rubble resulting from the IDF airstrikes. Probably.
And we’re shut. £556.13 in takings, which looks like c £94 of profit. A decent start.
You posted a link on Facebook earlier but I got this message "This content isn't available at the moment When this happens, it's usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people or changed who can see it, or it's been deleted.".
Nick Lowles @lowles_nick · 10m About 200 far right protesters are heading for Vauxhall Bridge Road in an attempt to confront pro-Palestinian supporters. This is getting highly dangerous
No surprise the UK far right find common cause with Israel's far right government.
No surprise the UK far left find common cause with Gaza's terroristic, anti-Semitic government.
And yet it's Israel's far-right government that have killed over 11,000 people in just five weeks...
In the context of what Hamas did last month.
And does what Israel does mean that supporting a terroristic, anti-Semitic government is fine and dandy?
Who are the terrorists bombing civilians right now?
Are Hamas still firing rockets?
You cannot look at what's happening and put all the ire on Israel. Hamas have a massive responsibility for what is going on, at a number of different levels.
If Hamas wanted peace then they should release all the hostages. It'd be simple for them too do that, and if they did, Israel would have much less reason to do what they're doing now. But Hamas won't.
For all we know the hostages are probably dead under all that rubble resulting from the IDF airstrikes. Probably.
So what would you have Israel do?
Bombing children is NOT self-defence.
No it isn't. But we have the Hamas lunatics desperate to be martyred. And they are surrounded by children. Hell, they've built a base underneath a hospital. Which is a war crime and means that the hospital is no longer protected under the convention btw.
Police say faked audio purporting to capture the Mayor of London calling for Armistice Day to be re-scheduled for a pro-Palestinian march "does not constitute a criminal offence". A Met spokesperson said specialist officers had reviewed the content.
If that is the case, and not the MET being thick as pig shit in regards to powers they have (because we all know how great the "specialist officers" are), the government need to get on this ASAP.
You should be able to make parodies, but it should be clearly labelled as such. Attempts to spend such material maliciously should be an offense. ML-based dubbing of video with the new audio that includes adjusting the lip sync is also getting extremely good.
There was a lawyer on WATO this week talking about AI and fakes and there is some law which covers fake things that make you look bad. I’m really really annoyed however as I cannot remember what it was called but his example was a set of fake photos of someone showing them up to no good would be considered against this law as even though they can be shown to be fake they still cause damage.
At some point in the next two years I will remember what the law was called.
In Swindon they had a reorginsation a number of years ago by parishing the borough.
Perfectly possible to do with a mostly urban area of course, but it has resulted in some less than catchy names, such as Central Swindon North Parish Council.
That's poor. There must be something nice- a park, a parish church, a local.worthy- they could have used. Even in Swindon.
(That may be the way to go. Unitary districts to do boring sensible stuff best done at scale, and urban parishes with independent budgets to do nice things like flower boxes, Christmas lights and so on. And regional somethings with powers in the range of Metro mayors to First Ministers- not necessarily the same everywhere.)
I genuinely don’t think there is much future for Jews in the UK
All the venting about the protests from grifting tommeh and co on Twitter, or whatever it is called, from left of centre posters totally ignoring the equally sinister anti semitic undertones of some of the marchers on the other side.
Increasingly social media debates seem to comprise one group of people accusing another group of hypocrisy. I’d say at least 40% of all “takes” on Twitter on Israel-Palestine and a reasonable proportion on Ukraine (or Brexit on here) are some form of pointing out of hypocrisy.
The fact is we are all hypocrites in one way or another. Human nature.
Yes the 'debate' is massively meta in that sense. People get more animated about the opposing punditry on the conflict than about the conflict itself.
Didn't Britain wage two long, hard-fought wars against the Far-right? Now we have Tommy Robinson at the Cenotaph?
Two? Not sure WWI was against a far right led country, more a Kaiser Willhelm one.
Unless you are referring to napoleon.
Kaiser Bill and chums were hard core right reactionaries, trying to prevent real parliamentary democracy.
You should read up on their agenda - War is good, War is God…
Weimar was everything they hated and feared.
As Prof Tolkien put it, the Nazis were “a combination of the worst elements of Kaiserism and Bolshevism”.
Kaiser Bill marched his troops almost as far east as Hitler did, just that the November 1918 Ceasefire got in the way. He also controlled Georgia briefly.
Comments
The fact is we are all hypocrites in one way or another. Human nature.
That's not even a slam on Jones, in his area he's a man to be noticed, I just mean that I am fairly sure twitter's general atmosphere would mean there will be countless pics and comments from the event.
Unless you are referring to napoleon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_structural_changes_to_local_government_in_England
I mean, Netanyahu has. They're very useful to him. Or were.
Works for me...
"The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from"
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
Why didn't they just call them 'Chester' and 'Crewe?'
Why? Well my more than tentative explanation is that said muscular liberals when they talked about there being no right to be protected from offence meant specifically Muslims..
But in the end it wont achieve much except to highlight our irrelevance.
But I do think we've seen enough overtly anti-semitic examples in protests around the globe and some here, with people very open and honest about it in their imagery or words, to be confident that small percentage is a big big problem. The counter-marchers is a good case in point - they may be small in number, but their motivations and actions will be taken very seriously nonetheless, as it should.
I am confident anyone who tears down pictures of captured israelis is motivated by anti-semitism (even where not all the captured will be jewish).
Woakes also surely bowling for the last time in ODIs. Along with Ali, Wood, possibly Rashid.
Truly a fin de siecle feel to these last few overs.
Liberal is just a misused term generally, I'd not be confident in anyone's self assessment as such.
Just can't keep him down, can you?
Though 'Crewe' is more of a stretch. My main complaint about Cheshire East is that East Cheshire would have been better.
A guy just spoke on the megaphone and said “Zionism is taking over the world” - and got very loud cheers
You can believe me or not
You can't leave Chester out of the name, proud ancient city yada yada.
Naming new council areas is a pain. So you get Romford+Hornchurch called Havering and Redbridge named after... a Red Bridge which doesn't even exist any more.
But - 'Chester' managed to not be named separately in the county name for over nine hundred years. I think it could have survived not being precisely named.
People may not have a 'solution' to this whole crisis because, well, it's beyond all of us, but they could still oppose the current Israeli action without celebrating or denying what happened. Some do just that, and those people I condemn. Others, it is much more complicated.
Anyway:
From the Roding to Lea, Newham will be free!
From the Sara-Jane to the Mee, Sky News will be free!
From the flower to the bee, Manuka Honey will be free!
When this happens, it's usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people or changed who can see it, or it's been deleted.".
Knuckle draggers have a bust up with the plod, they are treated robustly and arrested. The Tw@tterati say its Braverman's fault, sack her now, they wouldn't have come without what she said. The knuckle draggers will claim see the plod don't treat everybody equally and play the martyr. While the march has people advocating for global interfada, chanting for removal of all Jews from Israel under the cover of a ditty chant, some small groups are openly antisemitic, while the police film them and perhaps arrest a couple in a weeks time.
And tomorrow / next week it will all be about the dangers of right wing racists and that Braverman is the new Donald Trump.
And does what Israel does mean that supporting a terroristic, anti-Semitic government is fine and dandy?
Let's stop and have a cup of tea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35C-YGOKdqg&t=7s
Nick Ferrari gave Ben Jamal 5 chances to explain it.
I think it's clear that the French are at base, responsible for any and all unrest.
The US is almost as bad. They've meddled in the Med for centuries, and they're as unwelcome now as when they started.
(Only marginally tongue-in-cheek)
You can have counties - purely ceremonial and people could decide to use the pre-1973 names if they wished - and districts, as a unit of local government, named after the town where the district council meets, which people are generally already used to.
So you could still have 'Cheshire' but 'Chester District' and 'Sandbach district.'
And still Northamptonshire, but divided into Corby District and Northampton District.
Seems neater, anyway.
If you stick with it even when it is frequently misunderstood, to the undermining of your cause, you're just being stupidly stubborn and for what? A slogan.
See also Defund the Cops, although more people might actually be on board with that on its own merits now.
Again, you can absolutely go on a march saying that Israel is overstepping the mark here, that there needs to be restraint, there needs to be more done to get aid into Gaza...when you start chanting a terrorist slogan that advocating for the elimination of Jews from Israel, that in my mind isn't a peace march protesting for both sides to come together to find a two state solution.
We do have a problem with anti semitism.
The left and the media will focus on r tommeh but the anti semitism from a small minority of the pro Palestine marchers is deeply unpleasant.
Its a bit like people going to Halloween in black face, then saying yeah but, its not racist, because its a homage to Jay-Z, who is an incredible rapper and brilliant businessman....
While we're complaining about that sort of thing, I always wondered why Kim Wilde bounded the Kids in America "New York to East California". Missing out New England in orderto make things scan I can understand, but why not West California? I can only assume she got her easts and wests muddled.
Surely the problem is we have ceremonial, administrative, and historic counties.
You cannot look at what's happening and put all the ire on Israel. Hamas have a massive responsibility for what is going on, at a number of different levels.
If Hamas wanted peace then they should release all the hostages. It'd be simple for them too do that, and if they did, Israel would have much less reason to do what they're doing now. But Hamas won't.
Perfectly possible to do with a mostly urban area of course, but it has resulted in some less than catchy names, such as Central Swindon North Parish Council.
If that is the case, and not the MET being thick as pig shit in regards to powers they have (because we all know how great the "specialist officers" are), the government need to get on this ASAP.
You should be able to make parodies, but it should be clearly labelled as such. Attempts to spend such material maliciously should be an offense. ML-based dubbing of video with the new audio that includes adjusting the lip sync is also getting extremely good.
For all we know the hostages are probably dead under all that rubble resulting from the IDF airstrikes. Probably.
This is long gone, of course, but it explains the animus against them from various religions.
If the other opponents of Israel had come out and condemned Hamas and helped the Israelis track down and call these terrorists to justice then far fewer civilians would have died. They didn't do so because they don't care about Palestinian lives, and it's ridiculous that they chose to march about claiming they do.
Nonetheless the average protestor has a very good point.
You should read up on their agenda - War is good, War is God…
Weimar was everything they hated and feared.
As Prof Tolkien put it, the Nazis were “a combination of the worst elements of Kaiserism and Bolshevism”.
Can’t see why you’d lie
The voice of balance and reason
At some point in the next two years I will remember what the law was called.
(That may be the way to go. Unitary districts to do boring sensible stuff best done at scale, and urban parishes with independent budgets to do nice things like flower boxes, Christmas lights and so on. And regional somethings with powers in the range of Metro mayors to First Ministers- not necessarily the same everywhere.)
What is it?