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Another demonstration of Tory ruthlessness – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 8,489
edited November 3 in General
imageAnother demonstration of Tory ruthlessness – politicalbetting.com

It is always said that the Tory Party is the most ruthless when it comes to dealing with failing leaders. That reputation will be reinforced by the events of 2022 during which so far has seen Johnson and Truss pushed aside when it became clear they had become electoral liabilities.

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  • First like Rish!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 72,939
    edited October 25
    The Toblerone has to go! Going to break somebodies ankle.

    Edit - No that isn't some racist joke, talking about the cricket.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 2,278
    edited October 25
    Third amongst equals

    Edit: OK. Third.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 23,767
    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,453
    @LostPassword

    The Kyiv Independent
    @KyivIndependent
    However, Sunak has come under fire because his wife owns a stake in Insofys - an Indian IT company that has operations in Moscow and reportedly has links to a major Russian bank. He denied accusations that his family is profiting from Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's regime.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1584889895453347841

    OK...

    Infosys is an enormous company. It has over 250,000 employees, and is one of the world's largest computing services companies.

    It will enter into multi-year outsourcing contracts, particularly with entities such as banks. (Twenty year terms to run old applications on AS400/S360 systems are far from uncommon.)

    Statistically, the chances of it not having a contract with at least one Russian bank are close to zero. But, do Russian banks make up a meaningful percentage of revenues and profits (i.e. more than 1%)? I would be staggered if they did.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 72,939
    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 23,767

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 72,939
    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,465
    The Tory ruthlessness thing is overplayed, but this time they actually were for once.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 1,527

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's been there a long time. Sorry!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,855
    We must be in the end times. OGH has interrupted his holiday.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 72,939
    AlistairM said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's been there a long time. Sorry!
    Learn something new every day.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 23,767

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,321
    Without news on Hunt, Shapps or Cleverly, I am not I would call this ruthless yet.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,855
    Talking of ruthless, Stoinis is smashing Oz to victory here.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,465
    ydoethur said:

    We must be in the end times. OGH has interrupted his holiday.

    The announcement of the holiday did its job already.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 24,450
    Fifth Education Secretary since July.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,855
    dixiedean said:

    Fifth Education Secretary since July.

    Unless of course Donelan, Cleverly or Zahawi goes back to it.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,091
    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It does depend. Woking, plenty of Googlevan visits; other areas, not nearly so much. For iunstance, Wick Pulteneytown:

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@58.4397996,-3.0881562,3a,75y,25.77h,89.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEgMYLoszh38-_pU2TR0kMg!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i13312!8i6656
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 42,977
    ydoethur said:

    OGH has interrupted his holiday.

    Has there been any market reaction?
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 4,121
    That was a lot of deadwood cleared out of cabinet. Lots remaining, of course, but probably about as much as he could dare to do whilst professing to be a unifier.

    Let’s see who gets the jobs…
  • That first speech was a bit of a clunker. However, I'll take Mr Sunak at his word and judge him on his actions rather than his words.

    First up - Appoint a Cabinet. Dumping the woeful Mogg and the serial-sycophant Lewis are good starts. Demoting Sharma is not so encouraging. Neither Smith or Morton were up to handling their positions and so that's good too. Berry, Buckland and Malthouse weren't up to being PPS to Smith or Morton so that's even better. Now he just needs to appoint talented newbies to replace the old tired rubbish.

    Who's that - Suella Braverm...

    It was all going so well.

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,176
    Give me ministers, oh Lord.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,506

    ydoethur said:

    OGH has interrupted his holiday.

    Has there been any market reaction?
    £ up 1.5%
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 30,203
    Jonathan said:

    AlistairM said:

    Media are visiting the pharmacy where Rishi Sunak grew up in Southampton. I know the area fairly well. It is the "Bassett Pharmacy" now but thanks to the wonders of Google StreetView and its history you can see it when it was the "Sunak Pharmacy":


    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.9339043,-1.418412,3a,75y,1.93h,93.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUxJPhjSfDV_0dmdJmVSxIg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

    He's done very well for himself.

    His parents sacrifice will have been enormous to afford those school fees.
    Back in the 80s, school fees at the top private schools were low enough that teachers, university lecturers and nurses could send their children to them, with some sacrifice and hoping for a bursary.

    My old school is now £40k a year.
    I don't want to upset you, but Rishi Rich is only 42. He went to public school in the 1990s.
    Not upset. The mad inflation in school fees really took hold post 2000, I think.

    Interestingly, some schools are pushing back. My youngest daughters school is near to getting 25% of the intake on full scholarships. They’ve created a massive foundation, American style, to pay for it. The explicit reason for this is to broaden the intake again.

    A friend sending children to Harrow remarked that most of the parents in their class have their own Wikipedia pages. And not on a good way, very often.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 1,527
    edited October 25
    Carnyx said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It does depend. Woking, plenty of Googlevan visits; other areas, not nearly so much. For iunstance, Wick Pulteneytown:

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@58.4397996,-3.0881562,3a,75y,25.77h,89.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEgMYLoszh38-_pU2TR0kMg!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i13312!8i6656
    Yes, massive variations in number of visits. Obviously the busier areas get more. Quiet residential streets in the village I live in were last visited by Street View in 2008!

    I also find it fun if you see people you know on Street View. As far as I'm aware I've never been caught by one. My daughter was captured once on the way to her bus stop. My father-in-law has managed to be included on 3 separate occasions in 2 different locations!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,855
    If Malthouse thinks the DfE are committed to the welfare of children, he should actually be sectioned.

    When will somebody in power have the gumption to call these useless mofos out for what they are?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,855
    Australia win.

    Even though I tipped them.

    The end times are doubly upon us!
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,453
    AlistairM said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's been there a long time. Sorry!
    If you use the Internet Wayback Machine, you can look at the old Google Maps and see it before it was there...
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 20,044

    Without news on Hunt, Shapps or Cleverly, I am not I would call this ruthless yet.

    I can't believe he's going to replace Shapps with Braverman after 5 days.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 72,757
    ~3.3 a ball from Stoinis. Impressive stuff.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 72,939
    Kit Malthouse left the Cabinet rather than accept a demotion, The Telegraph understands.

    The former education secretary was offered a minister of state role by Rishi Sunak but turned it down, opting instead to return to the backbenchers.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,855
    Andy_JS said:

    Without news on Hunt, Shapps or Cleverly, I am not I would call this ruthless yet.

    I can't believe he's going to replace Shapps with Braverman after 5 days.
    'And when the music stops, the person in the chair is Home Secretary.'
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 2,278
    Whoever you support, Rees-Mogg really is the depths.

    It's all kicking off in the Commons as Jacob Rees-Mogg accuses fellow Tory MP Richard Graham of never having accepted the result of the Brexit referendum.
    Graham made point of order objecting to that characterisation.


    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1584913112624504833?s=20&t=9KRvG4nlEKxhhAH_TxRDmA
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,453
    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It's rubbish though: nowhere has images older than about twenty years ago. I want to see how a place looked in Victorian times, or Roman times, or when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 637
    rcs1000 said:

    @LostPassword

    The Kyiv Independent
    @KyivIndependent
    However, Sunak has come under fire because his wife owns a stake in Insofys - an Indian IT company that has operations in Moscow and reportedly has links to a major Russian bank. He denied accusations that his family is profiting from Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's regime.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1584889895453347841

    OK...

    Infosys is an enormous company. It has over 250,000 employees, and is one of the world's largest computing services companies.

    It will enter into multi-year outsourcing contracts, particularly with entities such as banks. (Twenty year terms to run old applications on AS400/S360 systems are far from uncommon.)

    Statistically, the chances of it not having a contract with at least one Russian bank are close to zero. But, do Russian banks make up a meaningful percentage of revenues and profits (i.e. more than 1%)? I would be staggered if they did.

    Now I'm having AS400 'nam-style flashbacks. THANKS VERY MUCH.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 1,527
    alex_ said:

    ydoethur said:

    OGH has interrupted his holiday.

    Has there been any market reaction?
    £ up 1.5%
    How long before someone complains that the strength of the pound is ruining our export competitiveness?
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 2,278
    edited October 25
    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It's rubbish though: nowhere has images older than about twenty years ago. I want to see how a place looked in Victorian times, or Roman times, or when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
    I would love Google to license the old OS and Tithe maps. Not least because archaeologists would love them.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 37,446
    rcs1000 said:

    @LostPassword

    The Kyiv Independent
    @KyivIndependent
    However, Sunak has come under fire because his wife owns a stake in Insofys - an Indian IT company that has operations in Moscow and reportedly has links to a major Russian bank. He denied accusations that his family is profiting from Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's regime.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1584889895453347841

    OK...

    Infosys is an enormous company. It has over 250,000 employees, and is one of the world's largest computing services companies.

    It will enter into multi-year outsourcing contracts, particularly with entities such as banks. (Twenty year terms to run old applications on AS400/S360 systems are far from uncommon.)

    Statistically, the chances of it not having a contract with at least one Russian bank are close to zero. But, do Russian banks make up a meaningful percentage of revenues and profits (i.e. more than 1%)? I would be staggered if they did.

    Should have sanctions placed on them for supporting Russia and Russian companies. Typical Tories, always money first.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,546
    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It's rubbish though: nowhere has images older than about twenty years ago. I want to see how a place looked in Victorian times, or Roman times, or when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
    Here you go (well, Victorian times at least, just):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_me3NrPMh8&ab_channel=Yestervid
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 37,446
    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    @LostPassword

    The Kyiv Independent
    @KyivIndependent
    However, Sunak has come under fire because his wife owns a stake in Insofys - an Indian IT company that has operations in Moscow and reportedly has links to a major Russian bank. He denied accusations that his family is profiting from Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's regime.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1584889895453347841

    OK...

    Infosys is an enormous company. It has over 250,000 employees, and is one of the world's largest computing services companies.

    It will enter into multi-year outsourcing contracts, particularly with entities such as banks. (Twenty year terms to run old applications on AS400/S360 systems are far from uncommon.)

    Statistically, the chances of it not having a contract with at least one Russian bank are close to zero. But, do Russian banks make up a meaningful percentage of revenues and profits (i.e. more than 1%)? I would be staggered if they did.

    Now I'm having AS400 'nam-style flashbacks. THANKS VERY MUCH.
    Showing your age right enough
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,091
    AlistairM said:

    Carnyx said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It does depend. Woking, plenty of Googlevan visits; other areas, not nearly so much. For iunstance, Wick Pulteneytown:

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@58.4397996,-3.0881562,3a,75y,25.77h,89.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEgMYLoszh38-_pU2TR0kMg!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i13312!8i6656
    Yes, massive variations in number of visits. Obviously the busier areas get more. Quiet residential streets in the village I live in were last visited by Street View in 2008!

    I also find it fun if you see people you know on Street View. As far as I'm aware I've never been caught by one. My daughter was captured once on the way to her bus stop. My father-in-law has managed to be included on 3 separate occasions in 2 different locations!
    Disappointingly, though, you can't check the date of the aerial ("satellite") views, but perhaps that is cos they are composites anyway, or I have simply not found the bit to twiddle.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 45,286

    Kit Malthouse left the Cabinet rather than accept a demotion, The Telegraph understands.

    The former education secretary was offered a minister of state role by Rishi Sunak but turned it down, opting instead to return to the backbenchers.

    Demonstrating that he overestimates his own worth.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 17,697
    Rishi waiting for Modi to tell him who to put in the cabinet?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 45,286
    Teaser.

    There will be good news soon.

    🗽

    https://twitter.com/AndriyYermak/status/1584903398842826754
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,176
    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 45,286
    ydoethur said:

    Australia win.

    Even though I tipped them.

    The end times are doubly upon us!

    Good effort by you, though.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 1,527
    Carnyx said:

    AlistairM said:

    Carnyx said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It does depend. Woking, plenty of Googlevan visits; other areas, not nearly so much. For iunstance, Wick Pulteneytown:

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@58.4397996,-3.0881562,3a,75y,25.77h,89.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEgMYLoszh38-_pU2TR0kMg!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i13312!8i6656
    Yes, massive variations in number of visits. Obviously the busier areas get more. Quiet residential streets in the village I live in were last visited by Street View in 2008!

    I also find it fun if you see people you know on Street View. As far as I'm aware I've never been caught by one. My daughter was captured once on the way to her bus stop. My father-in-law has managed to be included on 3 separate occasions in 2 different locations!
    Disappointingly, though, you can't check the date of the aerial ("satellite") views, but perhaps that is cos they are composites anyway, or I have simply not found the bit to twiddle.
    Fairly sure there is that option in Google Earth. Can't check currently.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 72,939

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,091
    mwadams said:

    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It's rubbish though: nowhere has images older than about twenty years ago. I want to see how a place looked in Victorian times, or Roman times, or when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
    I would love Google to license the old OS and Tithe maps. Not least because archaeologists would love them.
    Have a look at nls.uk/maps if you haven't - emphasis on Scotland but quite a lot of rUK maps, incl. OS, Admiralty etc.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,091
    AlistairM said:

    Carnyx said:

    AlistairM said:

    Carnyx said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It does depend. Woking, plenty of Googlevan visits; other areas, not nearly so much. For iunstance, Wick Pulteneytown:

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@58.4397996,-3.0881562,3a,75y,25.77h,89.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEgMYLoszh38-_pU2TR0kMg!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i13312!8i6656
    Yes, massive variations in number of visits. Obviously the busier areas get more. Quiet residential streets in the village I live in were last visited by Street View in 2008!

    I also find it fun if you see people you know on Street View. As far as I'm aware I've never been caught by one. My daughter was captured once on the way to her bus stop. My father-in-law has managed to be included on 3 separate occasions in 2 different locations!
    Disappointingly, though, you can't check the date of the aerial ("satellite") views, but perhaps that is cos they are composites anyway, or I have simply not found the bit to twiddle.
    Fairly sure there is that option in Google Earth. Can't check currently.
    Ah, thanks - I failed to upgrade to GE when I last changed PC. Must do that.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 45,286
    I see Mogg is taking his sacking well.

    It's all kicking off in the Commons as Jacob Rees-Mogg accuses fellow Tory MP Richard Graham of never having accepted the result of the Brexit referendum.
    Graham made point of order objecting to that characterisation.

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1584913112624504833
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 2,278
    edited October 25
    Carnyx said:

    mwadams said:

    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It's rubbish though: nowhere has images older than about twenty years ago. I want to see how a place looked in Victorian times, or Roman times, or when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
    I would love Google to license the old OS and Tithe maps. Not least because archaeologists would love them.
    Have a look at nls.uk/maps if you haven't - emphasis on Scotland but quite a lot of rUK maps, incl. OS, Admiralty etc.
    Yes - they are great. One thing I think google could do is the hard yards of registration; getting them all scaled and aligned.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 10,540
    AlistairM said:

    Carnyx said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It does depend. Woking, plenty of Googlevan visits; other areas, not nearly so much. For iunstance, Wick Pulteneytown:

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@58.4397996,-3.0881562,3a,75y,25.77h,89.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEgMYLoszh38-_pU2TR0kMg!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i13312!8i6656
    Yes, massive variations in number of visits. Obviously the busier areas get more. Quiet residential streets in the village I live in were last visited by Street View in 2008!

    I also find it fun if you see people you know on Street View. As far as I'm aware I've never been caught by one. My daughter was captured once on the way to her bus stop. My father-in-law has managed to be included on 3 separate occasions in 2 different locations!
    My daughter is immortalised on Google Street View mowing the lawn. With a push mower.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 4,556
    AlistairM said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's been there a long time. Sorry!
    Was certainly there circa 2015 when we were buying our present house. Previous owner referenced some alterations he and neighbour had made and we were able to check them out on previous street views.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 1,527
    Carnyx said:

    mwadams said:

    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It's rubbish though: nowhere has images older than about twenty years ago. I want to see how a place looked in Victorian times, or Roman times, or when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
    I would love Google to license the old OS and Tithe maps. Not least because archaeologists would love them.
    Have a look at nls.uk/maps if you haven't - emphasis on Scotland but quite a lot of rUK maps, incl. OS, Admiralty etc.
    There is one thing I use Bing for. Bing Maps has OS maps (on desktop only):

    https://www.bing.com/maps/


  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,648
    Nigelb said:

    I see Mogg is taking his sacking well.

    It's all kicking off in the Commons as Jacob Rees-Mogg accuses fellow Tory MP Richard Graham of never having accepted the result of the Brexit referendum.
    Graham made point of order objecting to that characterisation.

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1584913112624504833

    He'll be a Reform/Farage MP by Christmas
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 42,807
    I’m starting to feel ashamed for the relief I am feeling for having a useless Tory PM being replaced by a less useless one. That’s how bad things have got under the Tories.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,176

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 45,286

    Nigelb said:

    I see Mogg is taking his sacking well.

    It's all kicking off in the Commons as Jacob Rees-Mogg accuses fellow Tory MP Richard Graham of never having accepted the result of the Brexit referendum.
    Graham made point of order objecting to that characterisation.

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1584913112624504833

    He'll be a Reform/Farage MP by Christmas
    I fear for the family cat when he gets home tonight.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,091
    mwadams said:

    Carnyx said:

    mwadams said:

    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It's rubbish though: nowhere has images older than about twenty years ago. I want to see how a place looked in Victorian times, or Roman times, or when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
    I would love Google to license the old OS and Tithe maps. Not least because archaeologists would love them.
    Have a look at nls.uk/maps if you haven't - emphasis on Scotland but quite a lot of rUK maps, incl. OS, Admiralty etc.
    Yes - they are great. One thing I think google could do is the hard yards of registration; getting them all scaled and aligned.
    NLS do do that as well (now with lidar as well).
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 8,571
    Nigelb said:

    I see Mogg is taking his sacking well.

    It's all kicking off in the Commons as Jacob Rees-Mogg accuses fellow Tory MP Richard Graham of never having accepted the result of the Brexit referendum.
    Graham made point of order objecting to that characterisation.

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1584913112624504833

    The Tories are a Splatter Movie!
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 4,556
    edited October 25
    rcs1000 said:

    AlistairM said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's been there a long time. Sorry!
    If you use the Internet Wayback Machine, you can look at the old Google Maps and see it before it was there...
    Showed a GenZ student Wayback Machine a couple of weeks ago. Blew her mind (I remember being similarly in awe of it around fifteen years earlier, when I discovered it, if I remember correctly). She described it as 'sick' which is probably the first time I've heard anyone use that term in a non-ironic (and non-literal) way.

    I was going through a script in which I'd referenced, in comments, a formula to a website, the page for which no longer existed, but was archived. IBM developer website, which I'd thought would be a fairly safe link.

    ETA: Reminds me, another student a couple of years before, on making a silly logic/coding mistake said, of herself "I'm such a nonce". Cue those of us in the room of my age or above doing te whole "I don't think that word means what you think it means routine". Turns out it has a different meaning for the GenZers to that understood by those of us that are older.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 12,144

    Nigelb said:

    I see Mogg is taking his sacking well.

    It's all kicking off in the Commons as Jacob Rees-Mogg accuses fellow Tory MP Richard Graham of never having accepted the result of the Brexit referendum.
    Graham made point of order objecting to that characterisation.

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1584913112624504833

    He'll be a Reform/Farage MP by Christmas
    I hope so. The Conservatives can do without a complete wazzock like him.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 4,121
    BBC saying rumours of Shapps to Business
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,546

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    I thought we had?
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,449
    Carnyx said:

    AlistairM said:

    Carnyx said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It does depend. Woking, plenty of Googlevan visits; other areas, not nearly so much. For iunstance, Wick Pulteneytown:

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@58.4397996,-3.0881562,3a,75y,25.77h,89.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEgMYLoszh38-_pU2TR0kMg!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i13312!8i6656
    Yes, massive variations in number of visits. Obviously the busier areas get more. Quiet residential streets in the village I live in were last visited by Street View in 2008!

    I also find it fun if you see people you know on Street View. As far as I'm aware I've never been caught by one. My daughter was captured once on the way to her bus stop. My father-in-law has managed to be included on 3 separate occasions in 2 different locations!
    Disappointingly, though, you can't check the date of the aerial ("satellite") views, but perhaps that is cos they are composites anyway, or I have simply not found the bit to twiddle.
    Are Apple planning something similar? A few weeks ago in the carpark at my gym (also a hotel/business venue) there were about 5 Apple-badged cars with those erectable camera towers on the roofs.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 2,278
    Carnyx said:

    mwadams said:

    Carnyx said:

    mwadams said:

    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It's rubbish though: nowhere has images older than about twenty years ago. I want to see how a place looked in Victorian times, or Roman times, or when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
    I would love Google to license the old OS and Tithe maps. Not least because archaeologists would love them.
    Have a look at nls.uk/maps if you haven't - emphasis on Scotland but quite a lot of rUK maps, incl. OS, Admiralty etc.
    Yes - they are great. One thing I think google could do is the hard yards of registration; getting them all scaled and aligned.
    NLS do do that as well (now with lidar as well).
    I need to have a proper look. Thanks!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,648
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    I see Mogg is taking his sacking well.

    It's all kicking off in the Commons as Jacob Rees-Mogg accuses fellow Tory MP Richard Graham of never having accepted the result of the Brexit referendum.
    Graham made point of order objecting to that characterisation.

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1584913112624504833

    He'll be a Reform/Farage MP by Christmas
    I fear for the family cat when he gets home tonight.
    If he harms a cat i shall hunt him down like a verminous fox
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,502

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 45,328
    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    Its really useful in neighbour and title disputes. I use it a lot.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 4,121
    Raab into Number 10
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 10,540

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    It wouldn't make a difference if the police choose not to enforce it.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,176

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    I thought we had?
    Obviously not strong enough.

    Why is he allowed to use a ghettoblaster to blare "I predict a riot" at 120dB into Downing Street?

    How is that legal? Why didn't the police immediately switch it off?
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 2,278
    mwadams said:

    Carnyx said:

    mwadams said:

    Carnyx said:

    mwadams said:

    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It's rubbish though: nowhere has images older than about twenty years ago. I want to see how a place looked in Victorian times, or Roman times, or when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
    I would love Google to license the old OS and Tithe maps. Not least because archaeologists would love them.
    Have a look at nls.uk/maps if you haven't - emphasis on Scotland but quite a lot of rUK maps, incl. OS, Admiralty etc.
    Yes - they are great. One thing I think google could do is the hard yards of registration; getting them all scaled and aligned.
    NLS do do that as well (now with lidar as well).
    I need to have a proper look. Thanks!
    (For the benefit of anyone else on the lazy web - the url is https://maps.nls.uk/
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 45,286
    Fifth education secretary since July...

    Quite the stat.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 8,571

    Kit Malthouse left the Cabinet rather than accept a demotion, The Telegraph understands.

    The former education secretary was offered a minister of state role by Rishi Sunak but turned it down, opting instead to return to the backbenchers.

    I think he’s good, talented. Impressive when interviewed, knows his onions. I would have him in my cabinet.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 45,286

    Nigelb said:

    I see Mogg is taking his sacking well.

    It's all kicking off in the Commons as Jacob Rees-Mogg accuses fellow Tory MP Richard Graham of never having accepted the result of the Brexit referendum.
    Graham made point of order objecting to that characterisation.

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1584913112624504833

    The Tories are a Splatter Movie!
    Splitter, surely ?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,453
    malcolmg said:

    rcs1000 said:

    @LostPassword

    The Kyiv Independent
    @KyivIndependent
    However, Sunak has come under fire because his wife owns a stake in Insofys - an Indian IT company that has operations in Moscow and reportedly has links to a major Russian bank. He denied accusations that his family is profiting from Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's regime.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1584889895453347841

    OK...

    Infosys is an enormous company. It has over 250,000 employees, and is one of the world's largest computing services companies.

    It will enter into multi-year outsourcing contracts, particularly with entities such as banks. (Twenty year terms to run old applications on AS400/S360 systems are far from uncommon.)

    Statistically, the chances of it not having a contract with at least one Russian bank are close to zero. But, do Russian banks make up a meaningful percentage of revenues and profits (i.e. more than 1%)? I would be staggered if they did.

    Should have sanctions placed on them for supporting Russia and Russian companies. Typical Tories, always money first.
    (1) Infosys is a publicly traded company (worth $75bn), and Ms Sunak owns a minority position. She - I'm sure - receives multimillion dividend cheques every year. But she has no control. Indeed, the board of Infosys is legally and morally obliged to run the business for the benefit of shareholders.

    (2) It's an Indian company. India has imposed no sanctions on Russia.

    (3) Infosys's Russian contracts may well predate even the 2014 invasion of Crimea and annexation of parts of Ukraine. It may well have no right to unilaterally terminate the contract.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,176

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
    I think he's a professional wanker.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 42,807
    Any Three Words is great!

    Try ‘Twat - Paranoid - Conspiracy’ and it will tell you exactly where Leon lives.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 12,144
    malcolmg said:

    rcs1000 said:

    @LostPassword

    The Kyiv Independent
    @KyivIndependent
    However, Sunak has come under fire because his wife owns a stake in Insofys - an Indian IT company that has operations in Moscow and reportedly has links to a major Russian bank. He denied accusations that his family is profiting from Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's regime.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1584889895453347841

    OK...

    Infosys is an enormous company. It has over 250,000 employees, and is one of the world's largest computing services companies.

    It will enter into multi-year outsourcing contracts, particularly with entities such as banks. (Twenty year terms to run old applications on AS400/S360 systems are far from uncommon.)

    Statistically, the chances of it not having a contract with at least one Russian bank are close to zero. But, do Russian banks make up a meaningful percentage of revenues and profits (i.e. more than 1%)? I would be staggered if they did.

    Should have sanctions placed on them for supporting Russia and Russian companies. Typical Tories, always money first.
    Lol. Says the man who is a braindead unquestioning supporter of the man described by his own QC as "a bully and a sex pest" and who is a mouthpiece for the Kremlin by being a presenter on RT. Putin loves Salmond and his supporters
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 45,328
    ydoethur said:

    Australia win.

    Even though I tipped them.

    The end times are doubly upon us!

    Even more remarkable I tipped them too. Stoinis's remarkable innings has allowed them to repair their NRR after a very slow start too.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 4,121
    Rumours Raab is becoming deputy again.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 45,286

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    Aren't Bills of Attainder frowned on in polite circles ?
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,502

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    I thought we had?
    Obviously not strong enough.

    Why is he allowed to use a ghettoblaster to blare "I predict a riot" at 120dB into Downing Street?

    How is that legal? Why didn't the police immediately switch it off?
    Because: a) he wasn't speeding, b) hasn't questioned anyone's gender on social media and c) hadn't committed any other motoring offence. Plod quite reluctant to do anything about anything apart from those limited categories.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,091
    edited October 25
    mwadams said:

    Carnyx said:

    mwadams said:

    Carnyx said:

    mwadams said:

    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's probably been there some time and I've never noticed. It's useful for looking at how areas change. Look at how my home town of Woking has changed since 2008:

    https://tinyurl.com/2p96nz34
    It's rubbish though: nowhere has images older than about twenty years ago. I want to see how a place looked in Victorian times, or Roman times, or when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
    I would love Google to license the old OS and Tithe maps. Not least because archaeologists would love them.
    Have a look at nls.uk/maps if you haven't - emphasis on Scotland but quite a lot of rUK maps, incl. OS, Admiralty etc.
    Yes - they are great. One thing I think google could do is the hard yards of registration; getting them all scaled and aligned.
    NLS do do that as well (now with lidar as well).
    I need to have a proper look. Thanks!
    I think #'georeferenced' is what you want - eg

    https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.1&lat=55.91338&lon=-2.13965&layers=168&b=1

    Edit: twiddle the transparency knob (no wish to return to yesterday's discussion intended).

    Off to sort some boring stuff ...
  • I do wonder just why journalists not least Rigby think it is professional to shout out at politicians

    This morning Penny Mordaunt was walking towards no 10 and she had a number of journalists near screaming at her in an act of straightforward bullying

    It is not just politicians who are poor, journalists also need to be held far more responsible for their own behaviour
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 10,452
    Coming to PB party today rather late (though it's not yet 8am my time).

    Has Rishi Sunak announced any Cabinet or other ministerial-level appointments yet?

    NOT speculation, but actually announced? And if so, who to do what (to whom)? Thanks!
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 45,328

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
    I think he's a professional wanker.
    You can get paid for that? Asking for a friend natch.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 45,328

    Rumours Raab is becoming deputy again.

    Sigh.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,465

    I do wonder just why journalists not least Rigby think it is professional to shout out at politicians

    This morning Penny Mordaunt was walking towards no 10 and she had a number of journalists near screaming at her in an act of straightforward bullying

    It is not just politicians who are poor, journalists also need to be held far more responsible for their own behaviour

    It's not bullying, it isn't abusing them (usually), it's just annoying and I don't see the point of it. They're not going to respond, so who is it being done for?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 72,939

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    "I predict a Riot" I think.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 20,044
  • Hunt remains COE
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 4,121
    Hunt reappointed Chancellor
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 55,103
    Chloe Smith seems a harsh one.

  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 3,841
    Nigelb said:

    Fifth education secretary since July...

    Quite the stat.

    I'm imagining one of those early years maths books where instead of pictures of chickens, houses, cakes and the like, you get to learn all your basic addition and subtraction with pictures of 2022 education secretaries.
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