Bit underwhelmed by Rishi's Cabinet so far. Seems like the night of the living dead. Sir Keir won't be losing much sleep over this bunch of failed has-beens.
Genuinely bizarre. We've seen the arguments about being inclusive to all parts of the party, but she was just sacked for incompetence, which she admitted. It's not a good look for someone who just talked about integrity.
Did anyone really expect Sunak's cabinet to be much more than averagely bad ?
I was hoping for around the same level as when Sunak was last in Cabinet bad, maybe even better. Not Johnson end of days/Truss start and end of days bad
Genuinely bizarre. We've seen the arguments about being inclusive to all parts of the party, but she was just sacked for incompetence, which she admitted. It's not a good look for someone who just talked about integrity.
Did anyone really expect Sunak's cabinet to be much more than averagely bad ?
Perhaps not, but bad is about particular persons whose views some will not like, or who are incompetent. Regardless of whether one likes Braverman or thought she was competent, she just admitted to sackable behaviour. A period out of office would be appropriate, and as ydoethur notes, there are plenty of figures from that wing to appoint.
I agree entirely. I'm just not particularly surprised.
If I have to suffer Conservative Governments for my remaining twenty years, as a compromise, can they at least be devoid of vicious b******* like Braverman?
I never knew you could look at old images of street view!
I didn't either. How do you do it?
Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
It's been there a long time. Sorry!
If you use the Internet Wayback Machine, you can look at the old Google Maps and see it before it was there...
Showed a GenZ student Wayback Machine a couple of weeks ago. Blew her mind (I remember being similarly in awe of it around fifteen years earlier, when I discovered it, if I remember correctly). She described it as 'sick' which is probably the first time I've heard anyone use that term in a non-ironic (and non-literal) way.
I was going through a script in which I'd referenced, in comments, a formula to a website, the page for which no longer existed, but was archived. IBM developer website, which I'd thought would be a fairly safe link.
ETA: Reminds me, another student a couple of years before, on making a silly logic/coding mistake said, of herself "I'm such a nonce". Cue those of us in the room of my age or above doing te whole "I don't think that word means what you think it means routine". Turns out it has a different meaning for the GenZers to that understood by those of us that are older.
A friend of mine worked for a company building Bitcoin mining chips a few years back: the internal name for their ASIC was "the Golden nonce". And I said "hmmm... you do know what that word means, right?"
Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:
Could we swap Ukraine for Scotland in the United Kingdom? Get them in NATO that way. When does the transfer window open?
You know, some might take offence at this.
Does make for an interesting if improbable "what if" though.
Pre-war, Ukraine decides to give up its independence and merge with, IDK, Poland, thereby making it a part of NATO without needing to apply.
Could be the easiest way for Britain to re-enter the EU - convince the Irish to take us on as a devolved region with the right to send a few TDs to the Dail.
Very neat way of keeping Republicans and Unionists happy too. NI remains part of UK. UK becomes part of RoI.
To be fair the Raab appointment is actually quite good. The government had a summer break, with a 3rd rate bunch of clowns appointed in their stead. Raab vs Coffey makes Raab look good.
Bit underwhelmed by Rishi's Cabinet so far. Seems like the night of the living dead. Sir Keir won't be losing much sleep over this bunch of failed has-beens.
Yes, not fantastic so far.
All that matters is that he has Hunt at CoE and him as PM. All the rest is about getting some diversity of talent with a few oddballs in places to keep the oddball factions happy.
Bit underwhelmed by Rishi's Cabinet so far. Seems like the night of the living dead. Sir Keir won't be losing much sleep over this bunch of failed has-beens.
Yes, not fantastic so far.
All that matters is that he has Hunt at CoE and him as PM. All the rest is about getting some diversity of talent with a few oddballs in places to keep the oddball factions happy.
It really isn't. Mrs Braverman- Pierrepoint, really isn't Home Secretary material.
Near anything in Cabinet would be a promotion from Leader of the House, though she will be disappointed not to get a Great Office. Needed a better level of MP support to get that, I reckon Boris being a huge distraction in the race ruined her chances.
This is an interesting Russian TV segment. It is clear that they are massively regretting the mistake they have made. It is openly critical.
Meanwhile in Russia: TV hosts clearly regretted the moment they asked an expert for his opinion regarding the Kremlin's allegations of a so-called "dirty bomb" Ukraine is supposedly planning to detonate. https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1584725196581523456
Bit underwhelmed by Rishi's Cabinet so far. Seems like the night of the living dead. Sir Keir won't be losing much sleep over this bunch of failed has-beens.
Yes, not fantastic so far.
All that matters is that he has Hunt at CoE and him as PM. All the rest is about getting some diversity of talent with a few oddballs in places to keep the oddball factions happy.
It really isn't. Mrs Braverman- Pierrepoint, really isn't Home Secretary material.
Is there anyone competent enough to be Home Secretary who is stupid enough to actually take the job?
Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.
Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?
Steve Bray being a dickhead.
Oh FFS.
Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
I think he's a professional wanker.
I'm afraid that you sometimes have a very intolerant, intemperate, and abusive side with anyone with whom you disagree.
To use your sort of language, I hope you might take a step back from here and reflect on how unpleasant you sometimes sound. I'm not sure you will pay any attention but I hope for your sake that you do.
Nah, there's a cross-party consensus on Steve Bray being a dickhead.
You win a golden hypocrite award for your challenge though: come back to me when you've apologised for calling me a dick and telling me to f-off, as you did the other day 👍
Bit underwhelmed by Rishi's Cabinet so far. Seems like the night of the living dead. Sir Keir won't be losing much sleep over this bunch of failed has-beens.
Yes, not fantastic so far.
All that matters is that he has Hunt at CoE and him as PM. All the rest is about getting some diversity of talent with a few oddballs in places to keep the oddball factions happy.
It really isn't. Mrs Braverman- Pierrepoint, really isn't Home Secretary material.
I am not keen on Braverman, but Labour have had some pretty awful people in government, and continue to have some very lightweight and odious people on the frontbench. It is a sad reality of our politics.
I do wonder just why journalists not least Rigby think it is professional to shout out at politicians
This morning Penny Mordaunt was walking towards no 10 and she had a number of journalists near screaming at her in an act of straightforward bullying
It is not just politicians who are poor, journalists also need to be held far more responsible for their own behaviour
I think they see it as some sort of important journalistic tradition. Maybe like because you can’t do that at Hitler or Putin, so it’s proving how great and liberal our country is.
I think it's more to do with the journalists' own ego to be honest.
I’m not wrong in that they think its an important tradition.
But I agree with Big G. I’m not sure about it personally.
There was a perfectly normal live interview with Sam Coates in Downing Street, where he saw minister coming out of No. 10 and shouted DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THE RENT BOYS WHEN YOU CHANGED NEXT TO HIM FOR THE SQUASH LADDER, MINISTER - or whatever the thing to shout that morning was. And I thought, no. No don’t do that.
Dominic Raab’s return as Justice Secretary is a grim omen for the Sunak premiership. Raab’s pernicious Bill of Rights, discarded as unworkable even by Liz Truss, would cut out the ECHR and shred the Human Rights Act. This sop to the Tory right must not be disinterred. https://twitter.com/MaryRiddell/status/1584928265361584128
Near anything in Cabinet would be a promotion from Leader of the House, though she will be disappointed not to get a Great Office. Needed a better level of MP support to get that, I reckon Boris being a huge distraction in the race ruined her chances.
Penny to DWP maybe. Big job, but pretty low key cf Health or Ed, as Treasury fronts up all the uplifts etc. Put in a rising star MoS in place in case she isn't up to the brief.
Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.
Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?
Steve Bray being a dickhead.
Oh FFS.
Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
I think he's a professional wanker.
I'm afraid that you sometimes have a very intolerant, intemperate, and abusive side with anyone with whom you disagree.
To use your sort of language, I hope you might take a step back from here and reflect on how unpleasant you sometimes sound. I'm not sure you will pay any attention but I hope for your sake that you do.
Nah, there's a cross-party consensus on Steve Bray being a dickhead.
You win a golden hypocrite award for your challenge though: come back to me when you've apologised for calling me a dick and telling me to f-off, as you did the other day 👍
Yes, Bray is a total bellend.
I found her criticism of you to be a bit hypocritical too and she has flounced a couple of times from here with rants about middle aged white men.
US president Joe Biden mispronounced Rishi Sunak’s name as he congratulated him during a Diwali celebration at the White House on Monday.
'Rashi Sanook': Joe Biden mispronounces Sunak's name during Diwali event at White House.
In all fairness, it's pretty hard to keep up with who is UK PM at the moment.
Was talking to a paramedic yesterday, he joked (I think) that they've stopped asking people to name the PM as a test of whether they're alert as it's seen as something even the best of us struggle to keep track of at present.
Mordaunt's career looks like it won't be going anywhere.
She did Sunak a favour by staying in and not backing Johnson so I’d expect something for her .
She hasn’t been sacked so she’ll get something. Given that continuity seems to be key here I wonder if she’ll just keep leader of the HoC. She’ll be very disappointed in that I’d think.
Near anything in Cabinet would be a promotion from Leader of the House, though she will be disappointed not to get a Great Office. Needed a better level of MP support to get that, I reckon Boris being a huge distraction in the race ruined her chances.
So what's the excuse for Braverman ?
Reward for putting the death knell on Boris getting, at best, much beyond 100.
Bit underwhelmed by Rishi's Cabinet so far. Seems like the night of the living dead. Sir Keir won't be losing much sleep over this bunch of failed has-beens.
Yes, not fantastic so far.
All that matters is that he has Hunt at CoE and him as PM. All the rest is about getting some diversity of talent with a few oddballs in places to keep the oddball factions happy.
It really isn't. Mrs Braverman- Pierrepoint, really isn't Home Secretary material.
I am not keen on Braverman, but Labour have had some pretty awful people in government, and continue to have some very lightweight and odious people on the frontbench. It is a sad reality of our politics.
But the main thing is: The. Clown. is. Gone
Yes, that's they key point, if making her HS was the price to keep Boris out then it's a pretty small one.
Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.
Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?
Steve Bray being a dickhead.
Oh FFS.
Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
I think he's a professional wanker.
I'm afraid that you sometimes have a very intolerant, intemperate, and abusive side with anyone with whom you disagree.
To use your sort of language, I hope you might take a step back from here and reflect on how unpleasant you sometimes sound. I'm not sure you will pay any attention but I hope for your sake that you do.
Nah, there's a cross-party consensus on Steve Bray being a dickhead.
You win a golden hypocrite award for your challenge though: come back to me when you've apologised for calling me a dick and telling me to f-off, as you did the other day 👍
👀 Hearing that Gavin Willimson, who has been at Sunak’s side throughout the summer, will make a return to front-line politics as minister without portfolio (in the cabinet office).
Can't we just sanction Steve Bray's benefits and make him get a job?
He will just get more donations from the likes of Pimlico Plumber bloke. He doesn't afford the rent on that luxury flat near Westminster on unemployment and housing benefits.
This is an interesting Russian TV segment. It is clear that they are massively regretting the mistake they have made. It is openly critical.
Meanwhile in Russia: TV hosts clearly regretted the moment they asked an expert for his opinion regarding the Kremlin's allegations of a so-called "dirty bomb" Ukraine is supposedly planning to detonate. https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1584725196581523456
That guy better stay only on ground floor of all buildings.
Is Sunak really not going to give Javid a proper job? That would seem very stupid.
Not sure he has room for him at a level Javid would demand.
Education is up for grabs, what's going on at health? Therese Coffey is not a good health secretary, she can barely put down the pies and fags, why would anyone listen to her?
👀 Hearing that Gavin Willimson, who has been at Sunak’s side throughout the summer, will make a return to front-line politics as minister without portfolio (in the cabinet office).
Bit underwhelmed by Rishi's Cabinet so far. Seems like the night of the living dead. Sir Keir won't be losing much sleep over this bunch of failed has-beens.
Yes, not fantastic so far.
All that matters is that he has Hunt at CoE and him as PM. All the rest is about getting some diversity of talent with a few oddballs in places to keep the oddball factions happy.
It really isn't. Mrs Braverman- Pierrepoint, really isn't Home Secretary material.
I am not keen on Braverman, but Labour have had some pretty awful people in government, and continue to have some very lightweight and odious people on the frontbench. It is a sad reality of our politics.
But the main thing is: The. Clown. is. Gone
Yes, that's they key point, if making her HS was the price to keep Boris out then it's a pretty small one.
She seems to have seamlessly taken over the hate figure mantle from Priti Patel, but people forget that some of her controversial positions were mainstream even from Labour Home Secretaries of the not so distant past.
Is Sunak really not going to give Javid a proper job? That would seem very stupid.
If he doesn't I would assume (hope?) it's because he's indicated he's not interested in a return to cabinet (for now). I can't imagine a world where Coffey remains as health sec if Javid was available. Sunak doesn't need to please the nutters _that_ much, surely?
Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.
Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?
Steve Bray being a dickhead.
Oh FFS.
Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
I think he's a professional wanker.
I'm afraid that you sometimes have a very intolerant, intemperate, and abusive side with anyone with whom you disagree.
To use your sort of language, I hope you might take a step back from here and reflect on how unpleasant you sometimes sound. I'm not sure you will pay any attention but I hope for your sake that you do.
Nah, there's a cross-party consensus on Steve Bray being a dickhead.
You win a golden hypocrite award for your challenge though: come back to me when you've apologised for calling me a dick and telling me to f-off, as you did the other day 👍
Yes, Bray is a total bellend.
I found her criticism of you to be a bit hypocritical too and she has flounced a couple of times from here with rants about middle aged white men.
Bit underwhelmed by Rishi's Cabinet so far. Seems like the night of the living dead. Sir Keir won't be losing much sleep over this bunch of failed has-beens.
Yes, not fantastic so far.
All that matters is that he has Hunt at CoE and him as PM. All the rest is about getting some diversity of talent with a few oddballs in places to keep the oddball factions happy.
It really isn't. Mrs Braverman- Pierrepoint, really isn't Home Secretary material.
I am not keen on Braverman, but Labour have had some pretty awful people in government, and continue to have some very lightweight and odious people on the frontbench. It is a sad reality of our politics.
But the main thing is: The. Clown. is. Gone
Yes, that's they key point, if making her HS was the price to keep Boris out then it's a pretty small one.
She seems to have seamlessly taken over the hate figure mantle from Priti Patel, but people forget that some of her controversial positions were mainstream even from Labour Home Secretaries of the not so distant past.
Yes, overseas asylum processing and shutting down immigrant camps on the French coast aren't controversial, she's just a bit of an idiot.
Braverman at HS is the price of Boris not being PM, to my mind it's a small one.
Not when she tanks trade deals because it might make it easier for foreigners to come to work here, even though we need at least some inwards immigration.
Sunak and Hunt in charge of the nations finance is excellent news and I expect the markets will response positively
🤭
Look at Today’s Telegraph front page “Sunak must put the country before the markets”. Do you know what this argument is - what is the right thing for the country? Is it straightforward as just give the dammed markets whatever they ask for to keep them pacified, and carry on business as usual? Then I tell you, in all candour that that option no longer exists.
BECAUSE. What do the markets want? The bond markets, seeing no plan for growth now, they will perfectly fairly demand a greater return on their investment. The Markets want an era of 2-4% interest rates and higher gilt markets than they have been for much of this century.
BUT From a political and avoiding election wipe out aspect, does the Tory government want the same as the markets, us paying them more because we can’t do growth?
Direction market opinion has clearly shifted, is government shouldn’t now continue to make everything worse by trying to keep gilts and interest rates down - it’s doom loop economics, low interest rates creates debt, coupled with political reluctance to tackle inflation because raising interest rates will make people poorer - Will Hunt and Sunak give the markets this?
Hunt and Sunak calming markets after talking up Truss economic mistakes is itself the UKs and Tory’s BIG problem. Simply put Gilt yields rising above 4 per cent was not high by the standard of the 20th century, nor was living with between 2-4% interest rates and periods of inflation. You agree that BAU is now the problem when it turns into a new era of payback for the last era of cheap credit leading to debt, where every bout of money-printing created an inflationary bubble ready to explode from the housing market and stock exchange - a twenty year orthodoxy that has failed Britain and its people: here we are after it with an insane housing market, negative real interest rates, double digit inflation, taxes at a 70 year high, exponential spending on the worst health service in Europe, £2.4 trillion of debt and lower wages than we had in 2008.
This government and BoE joint policy, this business as usual you are applauding as welcome, is actually killing us as an economy, as a country - like a drunk who can’t kick their existential addiction.
Is Sunak really not going to give Javid a proper job? That would seem very stupid.
I can't say I've ever been bowled over by Javid, to be honest.
That's part of the attraction. He is just boring. All the jobs he has had, it is uninspiring fairly competent management, which is really what the NHS needs at the moment i.e. no new, I have a great idea like reorganise it or hold on a minute, I just need to finish my 20th fag of the day before I get onto my red box.
👀 Hearing that Gavin Willimson, who has been at Sunak’s side throughout the summer, will make a return to front-line politics as minister without portfolio (in the cabinet office).
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I'm just not particularly surprised.
Meta would probably give you funding.
The Daily Star will have us looking for his brain.
Again.
US president Joe Biden mispronounced Rishi Sunak’s name as he congratulated him during a Diwali celebration at the White House on Monday.
'Rashi Sanook': Joe Biden mispronounces Sunak's name during Diwali event at White House.
(Actually, some high profile instances aside, Raab is probably a reasonably steady hand).
Not quite as bad as the old cabinet.
Meanwhile in Russia: TV hosts clearly regretted the moment they asked an expert for his opinion regarding the Kremlin's allegations of a so-called "dirty bomb" Ukraine is supposedly planning to detonate.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1584725196581523456
You win a golden hypocrite award for your challenge though: come back to me when you've apologised for calling me a dick and telling me to f-off, as you did the other day 👍
"are you delighted to keep your job"
"no, I am well f##ked off"
Must embarass and frustrate Rishi enormously.
But the main thing is: The. Clown. is. Gone
But I agree with Big G. I’m not sure about it personally.
There was a perfectly normal live interview with Sam Coates in Downing Street, where he saw minister coming out of No. 10 and shouted DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THE RENT BOYS WHEN YOU CHANGED NEXT TO HIM FOR THE SQUASH LADDER, MINISTER - or whatever the thing to shout that morning was. And I thought, no. No don’t do that.
https://twitter.com/MaryRiddell/status/1584928265361584128
'Replacing Liz Truss would be politically and economically disastrous'
-13 October
'Boris Johnson has learned his lessons. I will be voting for him'
-23 October
'I voted for Rishi Sunak'
-24 October
Reappointed Foreign Secretary
-25 October
I found her criticism of you to be a bit hypocritical too and she has flounced a couple of times from here with rants about middle aged white men.
Was talking to a paramedic yesterday, he joked (I think) that they've stopped asking people to name the PM as a test of whether they're alert as it's seen as something even the best of us struggle to keep track of at present.
At least he hasn't attempted to mount an insurrection and overturn a fair election, which is what your boy attempted, and failed!
He's a Johnsonite but unobjectionable - a rarity - and keeping him as FS is a neat way for Sunak to look broadchurch.
Something along the lines of ‘these are my views and if you don’t like them I have others’
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1584931269452115970
Cleverly as Foreign Secretary?
Sunak is the male Truss.
Hardly inspiring
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1584931875965251585
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Penny Mordaunt has paid the price for dragging it out till the end. She wanted Foreign Secretary.
Look at Today’s Telegraph front page “Sunak must put the country before the markets”. Do you know what this argument is - what is the right thing for the country? Is it straightforward as just give the dammed markets whatever they ask for to keep them pacified, and carry on business as usual?
Then I tell you, in all candour that that option no longer exists.
BECAUSE. What do the markets want? The bond markets, seeing no plan for growth now, they will perfectly fairly demand a greater return on their investment. The Markets want an era of 2-4% interest rates and higher gilt markets than they have been for much of this century.
BUT From a political and avoiding election wipe out aspect, does the Tory government want the same as the markets, us paying them more because we can’t do growth?
Direction market opinion has clearly shifted, is government shouldn’t now continue to make everything worse by trying to keep gilts and interest rates down - it’s doom loop economics, low interest rates creates debt, coupled with political reluctance to tackle inflation because raising interest rates will make people poorer - Will Hunt and Sunak give the markets this?
Hunt and Sunak calming markets after talking up Truss economic mistakes is itself the UKs and Tory’s BIG problem. Simply put Gilt yields rising above 4 per cent was not high by the standard of the 20th century, nor was living with between 2-4% interest rates and periods of inflation. You agree that BAU is now the problem when it turns into a new era of payback for the last era of cheap credit leading to debt, where every bout of money-printing created an inflationary bubble ready to explode from the housing market and stock exchange - a twenty year orthodoxy that has failed Britain and its people: here we are after it with an insane housing market, negative real interest rates, double digit inflation, taxes at a 70 year high, exponential spending on the worst health service in Europe, £2.4 trillion of debt and lower wages than we had in 2008.
This government and BoE joint policy, this business as usual you are applauding as welcome, is actually killing us as an economy, as a country - like a drunk who can’t kick their existential addiction.