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  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    Coming to PB party today rather late (though it's not yet 8am my time).

    Has Rishi Sunak announced any Cabinet or other ministerial-level appointments yet?

    NOT speculation, but actually announced? And if so, who to do what (to whom)? Thanks!

    You are right on time for the first announcement - Hunt remains.
  • Coming to PB party today rather late (though it's not yet 8am my time).

    Has Rishi Sunak announced any Cabinet or other ministerial-level appointments yet?

    NOT speculation, but actually announced? And if so, who to do what (to whom)? Thanks!

    Happening now with Hunt first to be confirmed as COE
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,015

    Rishi waiting for Modi to tell him who to put in the cabinet?

    If Modi thinks Rishi is going to cut him any favours on account of him being a fellow Hindu and of South Asian origins I think he's in for a big shock.

    Rishi is British through and through and a patriot.

    All Modi is interested one is getting one over on the former colonial power to play to his base.

    Nats gonna Nat.
    Follow the money...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:


    Command & Conquer Red Alert is due for a remake...
  • Nigelb said:

    Fifth education secretary since July...

    Quite the stat.

    Please can it not be Badenoch? Her proposal (in her leadership campaign) to scrap Teaching Assistants showed that she can't have much idea how schools actually function.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,507

    I do wonder just why journalists not least Rigby think it is professional to shout out at politicians

    This morning Penny Mordaunt was walking towards no 10 and she had a number of journalists near screaming at her in an act of straightforward bullying

    It is not just politicians who are poor, journalists also need to be held far more responsible for their own behaviour

    I think they see it as some sort of important journalistic tradition. Maybe like because you can’t do that at Hitler or Putin, so it’s proving how great and liberal our country is.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    DavidL said:

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
    I think he's a professional wanker.
    You can get paid for that? Asking for a friend natch.
    Isn't that OnlyFans?
  • Sunak and Hunt in charge of the nations finance is excellent news and I expect the markets will response positively
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    edited October 2022

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
    He lives off donations, in particular various wealthy (Remain) backers, so is effectively a professional protester.

    Its quite sad in a way, I believe his family life has broken down because of ultra obsession with this.
  • I do wonder just why journalists not least Rigby think it is professional to shout out at politicians

    This morning Penny Mordaunt was walking towards no 10 and she had a number of journalists near screaming at her in an act of straightforward bullying

    It is not just politicians who are poor, journalists also need to be held far more responsible for their own behaviour

    I think they see it as some sort of important journalistic tradition. Maybe like because you can’t do that at Hitler or Putin, so it’s proving how great and liberal our country is.
    Bullying is not great in any circumstances
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,457

    Rishi waiting for Modi to tell him who to put in the cabinet?

    If Modi thinks Rishi is going to cut him any favours on account of him being a fellow Hindu and of South Asian origins I think he's in for a big shock.

    Rishi is British through and through and a patriot.

    All Modi is interested one is getting one over on the former colonial power to play to his base.

    Nats gonna Nat.
    Follow the money...
    I agree that Rishi's wife and her connections will pose a political challenge for him. He's naive if he thinks they won't. It would be much easier if she was fully domestically British and had independent/non-contentious business dealings.

    However, I don't think there's anything untoward there.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    Simon Hart chief whip
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,839
    Not got a huge amount of time for Malthouse but 5 secretaries of state for education since July? Really not good enough. Whoever gets that post now should be there at the next GE.
  • kle4 said:

    I do wonder just why journalists not least Rigby think it is professional to shout out at politicians

    This morning Penny Mordaunt was walking towards no 10 and she had a number of journalists near screaming at her in an act of straightforward bullying

    It is not just politicians who are poor, journalists also need to be held far more responsible for their own behaviour

    It's not bullying, it isn't abusing them (usually), it's just annoying and I don't see the point of it. They're not going to respond, so who is it being done for?
    The hounding of Penny Mordaunt this morning by any definition was bullying
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,723
    Spare a thought for Allegra Straton.

    If she had not taking the calls from Johnson to come and be his on tv press sec for the soon to be launched nightly press conference then she would now be walking into No. 10 with Sunak's team.

  • Dominic Raab enters Downing Street

    sigh.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    DavidL said:

    Not got a huge amount of time for Malthouse but 5 secretaries of state for education since July? Really not good enough. Whoever gets that post now should be there at the next GE.

    I hope none of the cabinet changes until the next GE. Appreciate that’s not likely, but there’s been far much movement to put it mildly.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503

    I do wonder just why journalists not least Rigby think it is professional to shout out at politicians

    This morning Penny Mordaunt was walking towards no 10 and she had a number of journalists near screaming at her in an act of straightforward bullying

    It is not just politicians who are poor, journalists also need to be held far more responsible for their own behaviour

    I think they see it as some sort of important journalistic tradition. Maybe like because you can’t do that at Hitler or Putin, so it’s proving how great and liberal our country is.
    I think it's more to do with the journalists' own ego to be honest.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,839
    kle4 said:

    Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:


    Command & Conquer Red Alert is due for a remake...
    It reminds me a bit of the Hunger Games. But then quite a lot of Ukraine does. Just superb films about the use of propaganda.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    edited October 2022
    YouGov have a wealth of Rishi data out. He's certainly getting a personal bounce, starts on much better figures than Liz but is still a little shy of Starmer/Labour with the Tory party off basement but languishing is the tl;dr
    Expectations of good or great/average/poor or terrible as PM 25/29/29. Liz was 52 poor or terrible
  • Spare a thought for Allegra Straton.

    If she had not taking the calls from Johnson to come and be his on tv press sec for the soon to be launched nightly press conference then she would now be walking into No. 10 with Sunak's team.

    One of many careers that have been torpedoed by associating with Boris.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,839
    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
    I think he's a professional wanker.
    You can get paid for that? Asking for a friend natch.
    Isn't that OnlyFans?
    I'll take your word for it.
  • RH1992RH1992 Posts: 788
    Pro_Rata said:

    Nigelb said:

    Fifth education secretary since July...

    Quite the stat.

    I'm imagining one of those early years maths books where instead of pictures of chickens, houses, cakes and the like, you get to learn all your basic addition and subtraction with pictures of 2022 education secretaries.
    Five Education Secretaries
    Four Chancellors
    Three Prime Ministers
    Two Monarchs
    One COP26 President
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,507

    Hunt remains COE

    🤣 proves me right, they haven’t a clue
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    edited October 2022
    Cleverly. Sigh. Surely staying as FS.
  • RH1992 said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Nigelb said:

    Fifth education secretary since July...

    Quite the stat.

    I'm imagining one of those early years maths books where instead of pictures of chickens, houses, cakes and the like, you get to learn all your basic addition and subtraction with pictures of 2022 education secretaries.
    Five Education Secretaries
    Four Chancellors
    Three Prime Ministers
    Two Monarchs
    One COP26 President
    And Alan Partridge in a pear tree
  • You thought people always taking sodding selfies, especially at tourist locations, was annoying.."Nerfies" are coming to every smart phone.

    https://twitter.com/Frank3_1415926/status/1584914644850061313?s=20&t=CfFvOi34bvofk8t7jsB5VA
  • Hunt remains COE

    🤣 proves me right, they haven’t a clue
    The markets disagree
  • Hunt remains COE

    🤣 proves me right, they haven’t a clue
    The markets may disagree with you.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,568
    AlistairM said:

    alex_ said:

    ydoethur said:

    OGH has interrupted his holiday.

    Has there been any market reaction?
    £ up 1.5%
    How long before someone complains that the strength of the pound is ruining our export competitiveness?
    Somebody will manage to weaken it 5% before then....
  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Posts: 1,293
    James Cleverley walks in. Penny probably won't be getting the Foreign Office then.
  • Oh no! Simon Clarke got the sack :D
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    Oliver Dowden into Downing St
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,507

    Rishi waiting for Modi to tell him who to put in the cabinet?

    If Modi thinks Rishi is going to cut him any favours on account of him being a fellow Hindu and of South Asian origins I think he's in for a big shock.

    Rishi is British through and through and a patriot.

    All Modi is interested one is getting one over on the former colonial power to play to his base.

    Nats gonna Nat.
    “Rishi is British through and through and a patriot”

    🤣

    https://www.nationalworld.com/news/politics/rishi-sunak-tax-scandal-green-card-non-dom-status-controversy-explained-pm-net-worth-3649278
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    Cleverly. Sigh. Surely staying as FS.

    Least objectionable of the dingbats perhaps.
  • IanB2 said:

    Any Three Words is great!

    Try ‘Twat - Paranoid - Conspiracy’ and it will tell you exactly where Leon lives.

    > Twat, Alabama is located on extreme northeast corner of the state, contiguous with sister hamlets:
    Toff, Georgia and Twit, Tennessee.

    > Paranoid, New Mexico is growing community of UFO enthusiasts, conveniently situated undisclosed distanced from Roswell, NM.

    > Conspiracy, Arizona is nearest wide spot in road to Leon's dude's dude ranch, famed resort of professional connectors of widely-spaced dots since the anti-eruption protests at Pompeii in 0079.

    So HOW did Romans skeptical of the "natural" causes of "volcanism" manage to resort to a resort in pre-Columbian (and -Carolingian) North America? Answer is on strictly need to know basis!
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    Interesting pictorial evolution.

    "We will smash it"

    "You did sort of smash it"

    "It is smashed" ~AA https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1584921058024497154/photo/1
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,568

    Spare a thought for Allegra Straton.

    If she had not taking the calls from Johnson to come and be his on tv press sec for the soon to be launched nightly press conference then she would now be walking into No. 10 with Sunak's team.

    One of many careers that have been torpedoed by associating with Boris.
    She had more than a small part in her downfall....
  • RH1992 said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Nigelb said:

    Fifth education secretary since July...

    Quite the stat.

    I'm imagining one of those early years maths books where instead of pictures of chickens, houses, cakes and the like, you get to learn all your basic addition and subtraction with pictures of 2022 education secretaries.
    Five Education Secretaries
    Four Chancellors
    Three Prime Ministers
    Two Monarchs
    One COP26 President
    ♫ ... and a Boris up a gum tree. ♫
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,160
    Selebian said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AlistairM said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's been there a long time. Sorry!
    If you use the Internet Wayback Machine, you can look at the old Google Maps and see it before it was there...
    Showed a GenZ student Wayback Machine a couple of weeks ago. Blew her mind (I remember being similarly in awe of it around fifteen years earlier, when I discovered it, if I remember correctly). She described it as 'sick' which is probably the first time I've heard anyone use that term in a non-ironic (and non-literal) way.

    I was going through a script in which I'd referenced, in comments, a formula to a website, the page for which no longer existed, but was archived. IBM developer website, which I'd thought would be a fairly safe link.

    ETA: Reminds me, another student a couple of years before, on making a silly logic/coding mistake said, of herself "I'm such a nonce". Cue those of us in the room of my age or above doing te whole "I don't think that word means what you think it means routine". Turns out it has a different meaning for the GenZers to that understood by those of us that are older.
    A friend of mine worked for a company building Bitcoin mining chips a few years back: the internal name for their ASIC was "the Golden nonce". And I said "hmmm... you do know what that word means, right?"

    And he said "Sure".

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,015
    RH1992 said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Nigelb said:

    Fifth education secretary since July...

    Quite the stat.

    I'm imagining one of those early years maths books where instead of pictures of chickens, houses, cakes and the like, you get to learn all your basic addition and subtraction with pictures of 2022 education secretaries.
    Five Education Secretaries
    Four Chancellors
    Three Prime Ministers
    Two Monarchs
    One COP26 President
    Stability where it matters.
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    I thought we had?
    Obviously not strong enough.

    Why is he allowed to use a ghettoblaster to blare "I predict a riot" at 120dB into Downing Street?

    How is that legal? Why didn't the police immediately switch it off?

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
    I think he's a professional wanker.
    I'm afraid that you sometimes have a very intolerant, intemperate, and abusive side with anyone with whom you disagree.

    To use your sort of language, I hope you might take a step back from here and reflect on how unpleasant you sometimes sound. I'm not sure you will pay any attention but I hope for your sake that you do.
  • ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    @LostPassword

    The Kyiv Independent
    @KyivIndependent
    However, Sunak has come under fire because his wife owns a stake in Insofys - an Indian IT company that has operations in Moscow and reportedly has links to a major Russian bank. He denied accusations that his family is profiting from Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's regime.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1584889895453347841

    OK...

    Infosys is an enormous company. It has over 250,000 employees, and is one of the world's largest computing services companies.

    It will enter into multi-year outsourcing contracts, particularly with entities such as banks. (Twenty year terms to run old applications on AS400/S360 systems are far from uncommon.)

    Statistically, the chances of it not having a contract with at least one Russian bank are close to zero. But, do Russian banks make up a meaningful percentage of revenues and profits (i.e. more than 1%)? I would be staggered if they did.

    Now I'm having AS400 'nam-style flashbacks. THANKS VERY MUCH.
    I stopped working on the AS400 in 2005 (went over to the dark side - Oracle).
    Does this mean there could be future post-retirement opportunities for me with Infosys?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,160
    Nigelb said:

    Fifth education secretary since July...

    Quite the stat.

    It demonstrates how quickly they learn, no?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,568

    Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:


    Could we swap Ukraine for Scotland in the United Kingdom? Get them in NATO that way. When does the transfer window open?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,073
    Trump has been getting tips from Russian TV.

    https://twitter.com/CREWcrew/status/1584278253287575552
    In this horrifying clip, Donald Trump proposes throwing reporters in jail, where they'll be raped until they give up their sources.

    His crowd laughed.
  • Regardless of views on Hunt professional/personal/ideological clearly smart if obvious move by Sunak to keep in as COE at this juncture.

    Always time for PM to do a "Mac the Knife" as with Selwyn Lloyd in 1962; "Et tu, Haroldus?"
  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Posts: 1,293
    Zahawi walks in.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863
    Dreadful interview by Streeting on last night’s Newsnight - will do Starmer no favours at all.
  • Rishi waiting for Modi to tell him who to put in the cabinet?

    If Modi thinks Rishi is going to cut him any favours on account of him being a fellow Hindu and of South Asian origins I think he's in for a big shock.

    Rishi is British through and through and a patriot.

    All Modi is interested one is getting one over on the former colonial power to play to his base.

    Nats gonna Nat.
    “Rishi is British through and through and a patriot”

    🤣

    https://www.nationalworld.com/news/politics/rishi-sunak-tax-scandal-green-card-non-dom-status-controversy-explained-pm-net-worth-3649278
    Please explain without sounding like a racist why it is hilarious to suggest Rishi is British through and through?
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813

    Zahawi walks in.

    Oh dear
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    Zahawi walks in.

    Sigh. He really should have been one of the sacked. Minister of State was shown to be the appropriate level for him.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,362
    edited October 2022
    Heathener said:

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    I thought we had?
    Obviously not strong enough.

    Why is he allowed to use a ghettoblaster to blare "I predict a riot" at 120dB into Downing Street?

    How is that legal? Why didn't the police immediately switch it off?

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
    I think he's a professional wanker.
    I'm afraid that you sometimes have a very intolerant, intemperate, and abusive side with anyone with whom you disagree.

    To use your sort of language, I hope you might take a step back from here and reflect on how unpleasant you sometimes sound. I'm not sure you will pay any attention but I hope for your sake that you do.
    There is something fascistic about Steve Bray because his mode of operation is to make it impossible for anyone else to be heard. I find it quite hard to defend him.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,839

    Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:


    Could we swap Ukraine for Scotland in the United Kingdom? Get them in NATO that way. When does the transfer window open?
    You know, some might take offence at this.
  • IanB2 said:

    Dreadful interview by Streeting on last night’s Newsnight - will do Starmer no favours at all.

    Streeting is an over promoted lightweight
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,999
    Chuckle: I tried that Bing map to see what they have to say about my neighborhood -- and was amused to see that they did not have a label on the growing Google operation here, though there are small labels on "Buildings A, B, and C". Google's operation in Kirkland is recent, so the map may just not have been updated in the last few years.

    (I haven't decided whether the local Google operation is parasitic or symbiotic. If they have done much for the community here other than building a playground, I haven't heard about it.)

  • Oh no! Simon Clarke got the sack :D

    Too tall and dry....
  • RH1992RH1992 Posts: 788
    edited October 2022
    Bit of continuity Johnson from Sunak for Raab then.

    "The Rt Hon Dominic Raab MP @DominicRaab has been appointed Deputy Prime Minister, Lord Chancellor, and Secretary of State for Justice @MoJGovUK

    #Reshuffle"


    https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1584924178154668033
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    Raab returns as Deputy PM and Justice Secretary https://twitter.com/10downingstreet/status/1584924178154668033
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,269

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    @LostPassword

    The Kyiv Independent
    @KyivIndependent
    However, Sunak has come under fire because his wife owns a stake in Insofys - an Indian IT company that has operations in Moscow and reportedly has links to a major Russian bank. He denied accusations that his family is profiting from Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's regime.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1584889895453347841

    OK...

    Infosys is an enormous company. It has over 250,000 employees, and is one of the world's largest computing services companies.

    It will enter into multi-year outsourcing contracts, particularly with entities such as banks. (Twenty year terms to run old applications on AS400/S360 systems are far from uncommon.)

    Statistically, the chances of it not having a contract with at least one Russian bank are close to zero. But, do Russian banks make up a meaningful percentage of revenues and profits (i.e. more than 1%)? I would be staggered if they did.

    Now I'm having AS400 'nam-style flashbacks. THANKS VERY MUCH.
    I stopped working on the AS400 in 2005 (went over to the dark side - Oracle).
    Does this mean there could be future post-retirement opportunities for me with Infosys?
    There are very good contract rates for people able to deal with vintage ‘tech. COBOL programmers did rather well in recent years - lots of projects rushing to get the last of COBOL out of the businesses before the last COBOL programmer gets The Big Batch Process.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    Raab Deputy and Justice
  • Hunt remains COE

    Religious balance?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    DavidL said:

    Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:


    Could we swap Ukraine for Scotland in the United Kingdom? Get them in NATO that way. When does the transfer window open?
    You know, some might take offence at this.
    Does make for an interesting if improbable "what if" though.

    Pre-war, Ukraine decides to give up its independence and merge with, IDK, Poland, thereby making it a part of NATO without needing to apply.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    RH1992 said:

    Bit of continuity Johnson from Sunak for Raab then.

    "The Rt Hon Dominic Raab MP
    @DominicRaab
    has been appointed Deputy Prime Minister, Lord Chancellor, and Secretary of State for Justice
    @MoJGovUK

    #Reshuffle"


    https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1584924178154668033

    Raab gets Justice.

    Would have preferred to see him get justice...
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,269

    Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:


    Could we swap Ukraine for Scotland in the United Kingdom? Get them in NATO that way. When does the transfer window open?
    Offer them to join the Commonwealth. This might cause the French foreign office to detonate, though.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    BBC already going on the angle that all top jobs look like they are going to be male.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,839
    Raab confirmed as DPM and Justice.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503
    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:


    Could we swap Ukraine for Scotland in the United Kingdom? Get them in NATO that way. When does the transfer window open?
    You know, some might take offence at this.
    Does make for an interesting if improbable "what if" though.

    Pre-war, Ukraine decides to give up its independence and merge with, IDK, Poland, thereby making it a part of NATO without needing to apply.
    What if NATO were to invade Ukraine? On a nudge nudge wink basis obviously and they quickly surrender?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863
    edited October 2022

    IanB2 said:

    Dreadful interview by Streeting on last night’s Newsnight - will do Starmer no favours at all.

    Streeting is an over promoted lightweight
    I know him well - he’s a capable and, away from politics, a likeable guy. But he has little hinterland beyond politics to fall back on, and has been promoted very quickly up the ranks (made easier by the lack of talent inside Labour) and is still relatively untested. And has no principles that he would put before his career.

    As last night’s interview shows, he needs to pay more attention to how he comes across. Shouty student politician doesn’t cut it at the top table.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    Heathener said:

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    I thought we had?
    Obviously not strong enough.

    Why is he allowed to use a ghettoblaster to blare "I predict a riot" at 120dB into Downing Street?

    How is that legal? Why didn't the police immediately switch it off?

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?

    Just caught up on Sunak's inaugural speech outside No.10.

    Why can I hear some sort of loud rock/metal music in the background throughout?

    Steve Bray being a dickhead.
    Oh FFS.

    Why can't we pass a specific law just to ban Steve Bray?
    What does the guy do for a living? Nothing I assume?
    I think he's a professional wanker.
    I'm afraid that you sometimes have a very intolerant, intemperate, and abusive side with anyone with whom you disagree.

    To use your sort of language, I hope you might take a step back from here and reflect on how unpleasant you sometimes sound. I'm not sure you will pay any attention but I hope for your sake that you do.
    There is something fascistic about Steve Bray because his mode of operation is to make it impossible for anyone else to be heard. I find it quite hard to defend him.
    Specific laws just for him is overkill, but on the other hand as you say there is a point here about freedom of speech in general, and would it be unreasonable curtailment of his to say he can only do it 10 hours a day as a random example, or can only blast it over so many other interviews etc?
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,383
    ydoethur said:

    Australia win.

    Even though I tipped them.

    The end times are doubly upon us!

    Fortuitously I was having an afternoon nap when you tipped Australia, so I've saved some money.
  • Braverman walking up Downing Street
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397

    BBC already going on the angle that all top jobs look like they are going to be male.

    Well, that would be good news in one sense because it would mean no Braverman.
  • RH1992RH1992 Posts: 788
    Oh dear, Suella walking up Downing Street....
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,568
    IanB2 said:

    Dreadful interview by Streeting on last night’s Newsnight - will do Starmer no favours at all.

    Labour are going to have start doing far better prep - and have some convincing answers ready. It's not like they weren't obvious questions he was going to be asked.

    At least he was W-A-Y better than James Murray, Shadow Financial Secretary (Treasury), when I saw him on Newsnight recently.

    Yeah, that bad.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    RH1992 said:

    Oh dear, Suella walking up Downing Street....

    Spoke too soon.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    IanB2 said:

    Dreadful interview by Streeting on last night’s Newsnight - will do Starmer no favours at all.

    Streeting is an over promoted lightweight
    He's another one artificially denoted as 'the future' in that he can get though an interview without screaming 'c*nt' and wetting himself.
    Hes not so good at managing his temper on twitter of course
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,362
    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:


    Could we swap Ukraine for Scotland in the United Kingdom? Get them in NATO that way. When does the transfer window open?
    You know, some might take offence at this.
    Does make for an interesting if improbable "what if" though.

    Pre-war, Ukraine decides to give up its independence and merge with, IDK, Poland, thereby making it a part of NATO without needing to apply.
    Could be the easiest way for Britain to re-enter the EU - convince the Irish to take us on as a devolved region with the right to send a few TDs to the Dail.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    Braverman - FFS
  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Posts: 1,293
    Braverman, shit...
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    ydoethur said:

    BBC already going on the angle that all top jobs look like they are going to be male.

    Well, that would be good news in one sense because it would mean no Braverman.
    Spoke too soon….
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503

    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:


    Could we swap Ukraine for Scotland in the United Kingdom? Get them in NATO that way. When does the transfer window open?
    You know, some might take offence at this.
    Does make for an interesting if improbable "what if" though.

    Pre-war, Ukraine decides to give up its independence and merge with, IDK, Poland, thereby making it a part of NATO without needing to apply.
    Could be the easiest way for Britain to re-enter the EU - convince the Irish to take us on as a devolved region with the right to send a few TDs to the Dail.
    Easier to just annex Belgium surely?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    Make her Minister for Prisons.

    On the basis that she should be in one.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,568
    DavidL said:

    Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:


    Could we swap Ukraine for Scotland in the United Kingdom? Get them in NATO that way. When does the transfer window open?
    You know, some might take offence at this.
    Well, there's plenty on here wouldn't!
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,269

    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:


    Could we swap Ukraine for Scotland in the United Kingdom? Get them in NATO that way. When does the transfer window open?
    You know, some might take offence at this.
    Does make for an interesting if improbable "what if" though.

    Pre-war, Ukraine decides to give up its independence and merge with, IDK, Poland, thereby making it a part of NATO without needing to apply.
    Could be the easiest way for Britain to re-enter the EU - convince the Irish to take us on as a devolved region with the right to send a few TDs to the Dail.
    Worth it as a suggestion just to see the steam coming out of the Shinners ears at supersonic velocity.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,568

    Braverman, shit...

    Somebody has to feed Larry....
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 8,727

    Braverman - FFS

    (Seriously) for a moment then I was trying to work out which post was FFS (Farming?! & Foreign Secretary...) or whether it was just a typo for FS.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    kle4 said:

    Braverman - FFS

    Genuinely bizarre. We've seen the arguments about being inclusive to all parts of the party, but she was just sacked for incompetence, which she admitted. It's not a good look for someone who just talked about integrity.
    It's also unnecessary. There are dozens of people on the right of the party you could appoint without bringing her into it. Zahawi. Cleverly. Even Patel at a pinch.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,383
    edited October 2022

    Raab into Number 10

    Deleted due to repetition.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 8,727
    rcs1000 said:

    Selebian said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AlistairM said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I never knew you could look at old images of street view!

    I didn't either. How do you do it?
    Look in the top left corner of the image. There's a drop down under the word google.
    Oh yeah. Is that new or has that been there all the time and I have never noticed?
    It's been there a long time. Sorry!
    If you use the Internet Wayback Machine, you can look at the old Google Maps and see it before it was there...
    Showed a GenZ student Wayback Machine a couple of weeks ago. Blew her mind (I remember being similarly in awe of it around fifteen years earlier, when I discovered it, if I remember correctly). She described it as 'sick' which is probably the first time I've heard anyone use that term in a non-ironic (and non-literal) way.

    I was going through a script in which I'd referenced, in comments, a formula to a website, the page for which no longer existed, but was archived. IBM developer website, which I'd thought would be a fairly safe link.

    ETA: Reminds me, another student a couple of years before, on making a silly logic/coding mistake said, of herself "I'm such a nonce". Cue those of us in the room of my age or above doing te whole "I don't think that word means what you think it means routine". Turns out it has a different meaning for the GenZers to that understood by those of us that are older.
    A friend of mine worked for a company building Bitcoin mining chips a few years back: the internal name for their ASIC was "the Golden nonce". And I said "hmmm... you do know what that word means, right?"

    And he said "Sure".

    Quite apart from anything else, I'm impressed your friend can speak hyperlinks.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,269

    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Zelensky looking increasingly like one of those PC game actors who gives you the pre-mission briefing in a Command & Conquer campaign:


    Could we swap Ukraine for Scotland in the United Kingdom? Get them in NATO that way. When does the transfer window open?
    You know, some might take offence at this.
    Does make for an interesting if improbable "what if" though.

    Pre-war, Ukraine decides to give up its independence and merge with, IDK, Poland, thereby making it a part of NATO without needing to apply.
    Could be the easiest way for Britain to re-enter the EU - convince the Irish to take us on as a devolved region with the right to send a few TDs to the Dail.
    Easier to just annex Belgium surely?
    That would be rude to the Germans - annexing Belgium is a traditional holiday activity.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,839
    Zahawi, Cleverley and Braverman. Trying to be positive he is not repeating Truss's mistake of taking the cabinet from a single clique.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,073
    kle4 said:

    Braverman - FFS

    Genuinely bizarre. We've seen the arguments about being inclusive to all parts of the party, but she was just sacked for incompetence, which she admitted. It's not a good look for someone who just talked about integrity.
    Did anyone really expect Sunak's cabinet to be much more than averagely bad ?
  • Bit underwhelmed by Rishi's Cabinet so far. Seems like the night of the living dead. Sir Keir won't be losing much sleep over this bunch of failed has-beens.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    Nigelb said:

    kle4 said:

    Braverman - FFS

    Genuinely bizarre. We've seen the arguments about being inclusive to all parts of the party, but she was just sacked for incompetence, which she admitted. It's not a good look for someone who just talked about integrity.
    Did anyone really expect Sunak's cabinet to be much more than averagely bad ?
    Perhaps not, but bad is about particular persons whose views some will not like, or who are incompetent. Regardless of whether one likes Braverman or thought she was competent, she just admitted to sackable behaviour. A period out of office would be appropriate, and as ydoethur notes, there are plenty of figures from that wing to appoint.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,073
    DavidL said:

    Zahawi, Cleverley and Braverman. Trying to be positive he is not repeating Truss's mistake of taking the cabinet from a single clique.

    Though repeating her mistake of appointing complete drongos.
  • Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab
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