I really don't like repeating myself, but as many are missing the point, here goes:
Braverman resigned because she admitted breaking the Ministerial Code. She should not be appointed to anything until she has 'served her time'. It is nothing to do with her political positions.
If Sunak gives her a job, it shows that he doesn't care much about breaches of the Ministerial Code.
Remind me, which other recent PM was indifferent to the edicts of the Ministerial Code?
It's kind of cute that people think that's why she resigned.
Well she either did or she lied. Which offence do you want to go for?
In fact, it's looking like one of those IKEA flatpack jobs put up by somebody very enthusiastic but who doesn't know the difference between a drill bit and a screwdriver.
I thought it was the return of Alastair Meek's much vaunted 'dull competence'. Don't tell me Richard will have to put down his champagne glass?
Whatever happens, Sunak is on track to not be as bad a politician as Truss, or as bad a person as Johnson, or as ineffective a PM as May.
The space labelled "much better than his predecessors without being that good" is awfully big.
You missed out not as bad as Cameron in the "prepared to stay around to clear up the mess he caused" category.
In fact, it's looking like one of those IKEA flatpack jobs put up by somebody very enthusiastic but who doesn't know the difference between a drill bit and a screwdriver.
Or an IKEA cabinet being rebuilt out of the remains of two smashed ones.
one or two loose screws. And one odd shaped thingyabit it says should have been in the bag you didn’t get, now it’s altogether you don’t understand what purpose it was supposed to have.
And a few nuts
Always a few too many nuts. I think they do it deliberately to us because they think it’s somehow funny.
When we weren't sure if Suella B had resigned or been sacked, there was lots of chatter about how the issue was about legal immigration. Basically, we could no longer afford a "fewer foreigners" strategy because we really needed people to take our jobs.
How does that circle get squared?
Extend the Australia/NZ working holiday scheme to the EU on reciprocal basis. It's not a difficult question to answer, Rishi just needs the balls to push it through.
Hang on so now we want virtually unlimited immigration from the EU instead of South Asia.
You leavers can't get your story right - last time (ie with Brexit) you were all delighted that we would have fewer EU immigrants and more from eg South Asia.
Make your bleedin' minds up.
Again, this is the make-up-your-mind fallacy. There will be diverse opinons within a group, many of which are consisyent over time. This does not equate to a single un-made-up mimd.
Absolutely. Some of us have been wanting free movement with the EU and more immigration from the rest of the world. But that doesn't seem to fit with Topping's preconceived ideas about Leavers so he would rather pretend we don't exist or that we have had some sort of Damascene conversion.
Bollocks Richard. Max (a leaver) just said he didn't want millions of Indians coming over here and his solution was to give those very same visas to the EU.
I was feeling a bit down about Labour. Tories back in the game, SNP consistently good. But I think Sunak's messed up here.
I agree. Also although I can understand there might have been some bad blood with Mordaunt coming out of the contest not putting her to good use in a senior role is a big mistake too.
In fact, it's looking like one of those IKEA flatpack jobs put up by somebody very enthusiastic but who doesn't know the difference between a drill bit and a screwdriver.
Or an IKEA cabinet being rebuilt out of the remains of two smashed ones.
one or two loose screws. And one odd shaped thingyabit it says should have been in the bag you didn’t get, now it’s altogether you don’t understand what purpose it was supposed to have.
And a few nuts
Always a few too many nuts. I think they do it deliberately to us because they think it’s somehow funny.
Not just IKEA, the Tories too 🤭
At least with IKEA a few spare nuts are genuinely useful, in the sense that if you drop one down the crack between the floorboards all is not lost, and the leftovers can be slung into the instant coffee jar marked 'assorted nuts' in the shed. On the other hand, with the Tories ...
She’s, a bit of a loose cannon, not loyal, not a team player, a bit full of herself, and just not very talented at any government job she has had yet. Yet one of the Tory Party’s Big 3. 🫣
The Suella appointment is very disappointing and I think is the big story of the reshuffle. And not in a good way.
Fumbled it, Rishi…
And yet the alternative was Priti Patel returning under Boris next Monday after he won the members ballot. I'm really not sure how different that would be for the department, but for the nation another two years of Boris would be a disaster. The opportunity cost of not getting Braverman on side was extremely high, Sunak showing he can do grown up politics more than anything else. Purity is for numpties, if he'd refused her offer he'd be losing the membership race right now.
In fact, it's looking like one of those IKEA flatpack jobs put up by somebody very enthusiastic but who doesn't know the difference between a drill bit and a screwdriver.
I thought it was the return of Alastair Meek's much vaunted 'dull competence'. Don't tell me Richard will have to put down his champagne glass?
Whatever happens, Sunak is on track to not be as bad a politician as Truss, or as bad a person as Johnson, or as ineffective a PM as May.
The space labelled "much better than his predecessors without being that good" is awfully big.
If he can also manage the title "slightly better than the LoTO without being that good" he might end up with an 80 seat majority
Blimey, you've changed in a week. Clearly you have read a @williamglenn post on your road to Damascus, and you are converted.
Lol. I was being ironic. Not changed that much, but very happy to see Rishi as PM rather than the last two incompetent clowns. I have always been slightly right of centre, so no emails to the Corinthians, Romans etc. will be issuing forth from my keyboard
Anyone that remembers him constantly interrupting and talking over both Liz Truss and Sophie Raworth with his condescending mansplaining throughout the BBC Tory leadership debate won't be surprised that he's given all the big jobs to men. Rishi Sunak doesn't rate women.
I stand corrected. Rishi Sunak doesn't rate women, except Suella De Vil. I'm not sure that's any better.
Several reasonable people suggested limited Cabinet change might be a sensible way to go, as well as not excluding the Borisite wing completely. So some of the appointments make a degree of sense, like Cleverly.
Braverman though is a specific choice to bring back, not simply not sack. Different kettle of fish.
When we weren't sure if Suella B had resigned or been sacked, there was lots of chatter about how the issue was about legal immigration. Basically, we could no longer afford a "fewer foreigners" strategy because we really needed people to take our jobs.
How does that circle get squared?
Extend the Australia/NZ working holiday scheme to the EU on reciprocal basis. It's not a difficult question to answer, Rishi just needs the balls to push it through.
Hang on so now we want virtually unlimited immigration from the EU instead of South Asia.
You leavers can't get your story right - last time (ie with Brexit) you were all delighted that we would have fewer EU immigrants and more from eg South Asia.
Make your bleedin' minds up.
Again, this is the make-up-your-mind fallacy. There will be diverse opinons within a group, many of which are consisyent over time. This does not equate to a single un-made-up mimd.
Absolutely. Some of us have been wanting free movement with the EU and more immigration from the rest of the world. But that doesn't seem to fit with Topping's preconceived ideas about Leavers so he would rather pretend we don't exist or that we have had some sort of Damascene conversion.
Bollocks Richard. Max (a leaver) just said he didn't want millions of Indians coming over here and his solution was to give those very same visas to the EU.
What's your solution?
Because the numbers are vastly different. It would be millions of Indian young people per year vs maybe a few tens of thousands of European young people per year and there's little issue with EU overstayers vs Indian overstayers which the government has already been dealing with for post higher education visa holders.
Looks to me as if Rishi is scared to death of the membership, and is desperate to portray himself as merely the latest bearer of the Boris/Truss flame. The ghost of Boris will continue to haunt the Tories for some time yet.
She’s, a bit of a loose cannon, not loyal, not a team player, a bit full of herself, and just not very talented at any government job she has had yet. Yet one of the Tory Party’s Big 3. 🫣
Maybe her mum knows his mum.... Welcome to South Asian politics!!!
Several reasonable people suggested limited Cabinet change might be a sensible way to go, as well as not excluding the Borisite wing completely. So some of the appointments make a degree of sense, like Cleverly.
Braverman though is a specific choice to bring back, not simply not sack. Different kettle of fish.
Suella Braverman did not mistakenly leak a meaningless document. She endlessly consulted a maverick. She deliberately emailed a policy doc not yet agreed to her pvt email. Then she sent it to John Hayes and someone she thought was his wife. Then lied to PM about when it was sent
When we weren't sure if Suella B had resigned or been sacked, there was lots of chatter about how the issue was about legal immigration. Basically, we could no longer afford a "fewer foreigners" strategy because we really needed people to take our jobs.
How does that circle get squared?
Extend the Australia/NZ working holiday scheme to the EU on reciprocal basis. It's not a difficult question to answer, Rishi just needs the balls to push it through.
Hang on so now we want virtually unlimited immigration from the EU instead of South Asia.
You leavers can't get your story right - last time (ie with Brexit) you were all delighted that we would have fewer EU immigrants and more from eg South Asia.
Make your bleedin' minds up.
Again, this is the make-up-your-mind fallacy. There will be diverse opinons within a group, many of which are consisyent over time. This does not equate to a single un-made-up mimd.
Absolutely. Some of us have been wanting free movement with the EU and more immigration from the rest of the world. But that doesn't seem to fit with Topping's preconceived ideas about Leavers so he would rather pretend we don't exist or that we have had some sort of Damascene conversion.
Bollocks Richard. Max (a leaver) just said he didn't want millions of Indians coming over here and his solution was to give those very same visas to the EU.
What's your solution?
Max is one person. He does not speak for the whole of the Leave movement any more than I do - or any more than you speak for all Remainers. You don't get to pigeon hole people just to fit your own pre-conceived bias. So I am afraid it is you who are talking bollocks.
Several reasonable people suggested limited Cabinet change might be a sensible way to go, as well as not excluding the Borisite wing completely. So some of the appointments make a degree of sense, like Cleverly.
Braverman though is a specific choice to bring back, not simply not sack. Different kettle of fish.
He could have given her a more junior role - I.e thank you for the support but I can’t give you back this job given the history.
When we weren't sure if Suella B had resigned or been sacked, there was lots of chatter about how the issue was about legal immigration. Basically, we could no longer afford a "fewer foreigners" strategy because we really needed people to take our jobs.
How does that circle get squared?
Extend the Australia/NZ working holiday scheme to the EU on reciprocal basis. It's not a difficult question to answer, Rishi just needs the balls to push it through.
Hang on so now we want virtually unlimited immigration from the EU instead of South Asia.
You leavers can't get your story right - last time (ie with Brexit) you were all delighted that we would have fewer EU immigrants and more from eg South Asia.
Make your bleedin' minds up.
I was never particularly bothered about immigration and the point of the working holiday visa is that it's still a work permit based scheme and comes with no right to welfare for the three years and it then requires sponsorship to renew for a further three years, that's completely different to free movement, the government still has a big lever to pull on if it doesn't think it's good for the economy or a subset of workers are seeing wage deflation.
Max you said yourself that it is virtually unlimited, in the millions, while many over stay their visas. That was what you didn't like, but are suggesting the exact same thing for the EU.
Makes no sense.
And if I had a penny for every time people posted on here "we love immigration we just want to be able to control it why should those from South Asia be discriminated against?" I would be 0.00000000001x as wealthy as Rishi.
It's because Indian nationals already have a higher than average tendency to overstay their visas. Suella Braverman was, fairly, pointing that out.
You're being purposefully obtuse because you know there's no argument to be had here. An Indian person who earns $100/m in India has a huge incentive to get the 3 year visa, overstay and work illegally until they are deported vs a European earning €1500 per month wherever they live and there are, at last count, 1.4bn Indians compared to 300m people in the EU. The pull factor is just hugely different, for most younger Europeans it will be about a cultural exchange, learning English, meeting English and other European young people, for younger Indians it will be a straight up transactional exchange until they are booted out for overstaying their visa. The proposed scheme was a rubbish idea and any trade deal with India which includes it would be a terrible idea.
Just be logical.
To say give all EU citizens the theoretical right to come over here in their millions after voting precisely to curtail just that right is just ridiculous.
Looks to me as if Rishi is scared to death of the membership, and is desperate to portray himself as merely the latest bearer of the Boris/Truss flame. The ghost of Boris will continue to haunt the Tories for some time yet.
Well, you certainly can't describe this Cabinet as a new broom....
When we weren't sure if Suella B had resigned or been sacked, there was lots of chatter about how the issue was about legal immigration. Basically, we could no longer afford a "fewer foreigners" strategy because we really needed people to take our jobs.
How does that circle get squared?
Extend the Australia/NZ working holiday scheme to the EU on reciprocal basis. It's not a difficult question to answer, Rishi just needs the balls to push it through.
Hang on so now we want virtually unlimited immigration from the EU instead of South Asia.
You leavers can't get your story right - last time (ie with Brexit) you were all delighted that we would have fewer EU immigrants and more from eg South Asia.
Make your bleedin' minds up.
Again, this is the make-up-your-mind fallacy. There will be diverse opinons within a group, many of which are consisyent over time. This does not equate to a single un-made-up mimd.
Absolutely. Some of us have been wanting free movement with the EU and more immigration from the rest of the world. But that doesn't seem to fit with Topping's preconceived ideas about Leavers so he would rather pretend we don't exist or that we have had some sort of Damascene conversion.
Bollocks Richard. Max (a leaver) just said he didn't want millions of Indians coming over here and his solution was to give those very same visas to the EU.
What's your solution?
Max is one person. He does not speak for the whole of the Leave movement any more than I do - or any more than you speak for all Remainers. You don't get to pigeon hole people just to fit your own pre-conceived bias. So I am afraid it is you who are talking bollocks.
The Suella appointment is very disappointing and I think is the big story of the reshuffle. And not in a good way.
Fumbled it, Rishi…
And yet the alternative was Priti Patel returning under Boris next Monday after he won the members ballot. I'm really not sure how different that would be for the department, but for the nation another two years of Boris would be a disaster. The opportunity cost of not getting Braverman on side was extremely high, Sunak showing he can do grown up politics more than anything else. Purity is for numpties, if he'd refused her offer he'd be losing the membership race right now.
While deploring Braverman's policy, etc. think her reappointment to Home Dept by RSPM is about the clearest signal he could send to the Red Wall that he is going to be "tough" on immigration.
Also suggests that (alleged) fiscal reasons for SB's resignation last week have been overcome.
As for violation of ministerial code, her's appeared somewhat penny-ante (pun not originally intended) compared to other recent, ridiculously egregious examples?
Difficult to know whether to blame Sunak or just acknowledge the total mess he has been left with from Johnson and Truss. Could he have been more ruthless? The dispossessed never make your life easy. The adults may be back in charge but they're scared of the kids throwing their toys out the pram.
Can Sky News make it through 5 mins without banging on about race and gender of make up of the cabinet.
The Woke takes of the MSM have been excruciating today.
Must embarass and frustrate Rishi enormously.
You'd think Rishi (or someone close to him) would have spotted this at the drafting stage. Was it Stuart Pearce who, on picking his first team, proudly showed it to his wife who perused the 11 names and asked where was the goalkeeper?
She’s, a bit of a loose cannon, not loyal, not a team player, a bit full of herself, and just not very talented at any government job she has had yet. Yet one of the Tory Party’s Big 3. 🫣
Maybe her mum knows his mum.... Welcome to South Asian politics!!!
When we weren't sure if Suella B had resigned or been sacked, there was lots of chatter about how the issue was about legal immigration. Basically, we could no longer afford a "fewer foreigners" strategy because we really needed people to take our jobs.
How does that circle get squared?
Extend the Australia/NZ working holiday scheme to the EU on reciprocal basis. It's not a difficult question to answer, Rishi just needs the balls to push it through.
Hang on so now we want virtually unlimited immigration from the EU instead of South Asia.
You leavers can't get your story right - last time (ie with Brexit) you were all delighted that we would have fewer EU immigrants and more from eg South Asia.
Make your bleedin' minds up.
I was never particularly bothered about immigration and the point of the working holiday visa is that it's still a work permit based scheme and comes with no right to welfare for the three years and it then requires sponsorship to renew for a further three years, that's completely different to free movement, the government still has a big lever to pull on if it doesn't think it's good for the economy or a subset of workers are seeing wage deflation.
Max you said yourself that it is virtually unlimited, in the millions, while many over stay their visas. That was what you didn't like, but are suggesting the exact same thing for the EU.
Makes no sense.
And if I had a penny for every time people posted on here "we love immigration we just want to be able to control it why should those from South Asia be discriminated against?" I would be 0.00000000001x as wealthy as Rishi.
It's because Indian nationals already have a higher than average tendency to overstay their visas. Suella Braverman was, fairly, pointing that out.
You're being purposefully obtuse because you know there's no argument to be had here. An Indian person who earns $100/m in India has a huge incentive to get the 3 year visa, overstay and work illegally until they are deported vs a European earning €1500 per month wherever they live and there are, at last count, 1.4bn Indians compared to 300m people in the EU. The pull factor is just hugely different, for most younger Europeans it will be about a cultural exchange, learning English, meeting English and other European young people, for younger Indians it will be a straight up transactional exchange until they are booted out for overstaying their visa. The proposed scheme was a rubbish idea and any trade deal with India which includes it would be a terrible idea.
Just be logical.
To say give all EU citizens the theoretical right to come over here in their millions after voting precisely to curtail just that right is just ridiculous.
Not really, firstly it's a working holiday visa available to people aged 35 or younger, secondly the visa comes with no right to welfare, thirdly to renew it the person needs a sponsored job at the end of the 3 years or they have to go home. It's completely different to free movement of people. You're trying to draw an equivalence because you think it's some kind of huge gotcha moment, but it isn't and it isn't.
Good presentation, I grant you, but any politician can chuck billions at a massive pandemic/energy bills and make it look good.
I think the idea has been to keep things roughly the same to project stability, rather than a massive shuffle of the deckchairs just as some ministers have been given their new briefs. I can understand the concept. I just think the execution is very poor - Braverman might have been rewarded with a return to cabinet but back in a great office seems reckless and tin-eared. Not giving Penny a bigger role (it looks like) feels a bit peculiar. I’m still not seeing all this talent that was going to be drawn from all wings of the party - but then again perhaps there is so little talent left on the Tory benches that this is what we have to put up with.
Looks to me as if Rishi is scared to death of the membership, and is desperate to portray himself as merely the latest bearer of the Boris/Truss flame. The ghost of Boris will continue to haunt the Tories for some time yet.
He was part of vote leave, linked to Cummings, and was a key part of the 2019 Cabinet and election campaign. What did people expect…?
I think Rishi is having to play safe with most of these appointments. Probably well advised to
I also wouldn’t discount the effect a different leader has in terms of structure, culture and direction.
🤭 . .
Well, the way I’d see it is that Bravermans endorsement prevented any further momentum toward Johnson. So as a political move, probably correct as going to be difficult to turf Sunak out once he was in post
When we weren't sure if Suella B had resigned or been sacked, there was lots of chatter about how the issue was about legal immigration. Basically, we could no longer afford a "fewer foreigners" strategy because we really needed people to take our jobs.
How does that circle get squared?
Extend the Australia/NZ working holiday scheme to the EU on reciprocal basis. It's not a difficult question to answer, Rishi just needs the balls to push it through.
Hang on so now we want virtually unlimited immigration from the EU instead of South Asia.
You leavers can't get your story right - last time (ie with Brexit) you were all delighted that we would have fewer EU immigrants and more from eg South Asia.
Make your bleedin' minds up.
I was never particularly bothered about immigration and the point of the working holiday visa is that it's still a work permit based scheme and comes with no right to welfare for the three years and it then requires sponsorship to renew for a further three years, that's completely different to free movement, the government still has a big lever to pull on if it doesn't think it's good for the economy or a subset of workers are seeing wage deflation.
Max you said yourself that it is virtually unlimited, in the millions, while many over stay their visas. That was what you didn't like, but are suggesting the exact same thing for the EU.
Makes no sense.
And if I had a penny for every time people posted on here "we love immigration we just want to be able to control it why should those from South Asia be discriminated against?" I would be 0.00000000001x as wealthy as Rishi.
It's because Indian nationals already have a higher than average tendency to overstay their visas. Suella Braverman was, fairly, pointing that out.
You're being purposefully obtuse because you know there's no argument to be had here. An Indian person who earns $100/m in India has a huge incentive to get the 3 year visa, overstay and work illegally until they are deported vs a European earning €1500 per month wherever they live and there are, at last count, 1.4bn Indians compared to 300m people in the EU. The pull factor is just hugely different, for most younger Europeans it will be about a cultural exchange, learning English, meeting English and other European young people, for younger Indians it will be a straight up transactional exchange until they are booted out for overstaying their visa. The proposed scheme was a rubbish idea and any trade deal with India which includes it would be a terrible idea.
Just be logical.
To say give all EU citizens the theoretical right to come over here in their millions after voting precisely to curtail just that right is just ridiculous.
I had to check that it was not April 1st when I read this....
Well I think Sunak will find it hard to convince the public that this is a new-look, revitalised government. He is either being surprisingly foolish, or is in a surprisingly weak position - either way I was hoping for a more convincing team.
Fastest reverse ferret (by Sunak) from upholding integrity ever?
Depressing, but not that surprising.
Sunak was happy to be part of the Vote Leave campaign. He was one of the first Boris backers in 2019. He was attending/in Boris's cabinet from the beginning until nearly the end. He was happy to be Dom's sub when Javid was constructively dismissed. He's gone along with all the ghastly stuff.
He may well have more integrity than his predecessors. But not necessarily much more.
The Suella appointment is very disappointing and I think is the big story of the reshuffle. And not in a good way.
Fumbled it, Rishi…
And yet the alternative was Priti Patel returning under Boris next Monday after he won the members ballot. I'm really not sure how different that would be for the department, but for the nation another two years of Boris would be a disaster. The opportunity cost of not getting Braverman on side was extremely high, Sunak showing he can do grown up politics more than anything else. Purity is for numpties, if he'd refused her offer he'd be losing the membership race right now.
The Suella appointment is very disappointing and I think is the big story of the reshuffle. And not in a good way.
Fumbled it, Rishi…
And yet the alternative was Priti Patel returning under Boris next Monday after he won the members ballot. I'm really not sure how different that would be for the department, but for the nation another two years of Boris would be a disaster. The opportunity cost of not getting Braverman on side was extremely high, Sunak showing he can do grown up politics more than anything else. Purity is for numpties, if he'd refused her offer he'd be losing the membership race right now.
While deploring Braverman's policy, etc. think her reappointment to Home Dept by RSPM is about the clearest signal he could send to the Red Wall that he is going to be "tough" on immigration. ...
I wonder if he considered putting on white make up.
Braverman as HS is the one appointment that seems wrong, but I suspect this is part of the politics of attempting to keep all sides of the party together
Sky are commenting that Sunak seems to be wanting continuity whenever possible to hit the ground running but where is Mordaunt
Anyway I continue to be delighted Johnson and Truss are yesterday's news and Sunak and Hunt are the key to the immediate prospects of reassuring the money markets and hopefully seeing downward pressure on mortgage rates
I think it was @Leon who commented that of course Sunak's critics are the ones who would not vote conservative, but the next few weeks and months will be very interesting starting with PMQ's tomorrow
The Suella appointment is very disappointing and I think is the big story of the reshuffle. And not in a good way.
Fumbled it, Rishi…
And yet the alternative was Priti Patel returning under Boris next Monday after he won the members ballot. I'm really not sure how different that would be for the department, but for the nation another two years of Boris would be a disaster. The opportunity cost of not getting Braverman on side was extremely high, Sunak showing he can do grown up politics more than anything else. Purity is for numpties, if he'd refused her offer he'd be losing the membership race right now.
What members ballot?
The one that would have ensued had Braverman backed Boris and taken the right wingers with her. Boris didn't run because he didn't have 101 backers, had he got there he would absolutely have taken it to a ballot and won it.
When we weren't sure if Suella B had resigned or been sacked, there was lots of chatter about how the issue was about legal immigration. Basically, we could no longer afford a "fewer foreigners" strategy because we really needed people to take our jobs.
How does that circle get squared?
Extend the Australia/NZ working holiday scheme to the EU on reciprocal basis. It's not a difficult question to answer, Rishi just needs the balls to push it through.
Hang on so now we want virtually unlimited immigration from the EU instead of South Asia.
You leavers can't get your story right - last time (ie with Brexit) you were all delighted that we would have fewer EU immigrants and more from eg South Asia.
Make your bleedin' minds up.
Again, this is the make-up-your-mind fallacy. There will be diverse opinons within a group, many of which are consisyent over time. This does not equate to a single un-made-up mimd.
Absolutely. Some of us have been wanting free movement with the EU and more immigration from the rest of the world. But that doesn't seem to fit with Topping's preconceived ideas about Leavers so he would rather pretend we don't exist or that we have had some sort of Damascene conversion.
Bollocks Richard. Max (a leaver) just said he didn't want millions of Indians coming over here and his solution was to give those very same visas to the EU.
What's your solution?
Max is one person. He does not speak for the whole of the Leave movement any more than I do - or any more than you speak for all Remainers. You don't get to pigeon hole people just to fit your own pre-conceived bias. So I am afraid it is you who are talking bollocks.
Are you a fan of the visas for India?
I am a fan of both freedom of movement with the EU and more visas for India (and lots of other places). It has been my position - argued against all comers on here, both Leave and Remain supporters - since long before the EU referendum. I think immigration is good for this country and something to be encouraged. Always have done and, I hope, always will.
I think strong control of borders is good in so far as we need to filter those who intend to do us harm or commit criminal acts (one reason I don't like Schengen) but beyond that I would like to see a default position that people are encouraged to come and work and study here rather than pushed away.
On topic: The "Ruthlessness" of the Tory Party - this is the same party that agonised for months over Boris and elected the obviously unsuitable Truss only to bitch incessantly in the background for weeks?
Are you trying to redefine the meaning of "Ruthlessness"?
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 4m The Suella Braverman appointment shows just how significant her intervention backing Rishi Sunak was.
Does it? 😂
Given the choice, the freemarketeers as pretty much a United gang, all chose Rishi as the one more likely closer to their core beliefs - expanding the role of the markets in solving economic and social problems. promote the intellectual case for a free economy, low taxes, freedom in education, health and welfare and lower levels of regulation.
To read anymore than that into why they back Sunak over Boris as Hodges is doing is just getting bloody stupid now.
I was about to write about how he has picked a lot of the worst members of both Boris' and Truss' cabinets. Then I remembered he does have to try and keep this lot of warring idiots together as much as possible over the next 2 years. Some of them will I'm sure be replaced as the inevitable ministerial misdemeanours and resignations happen.
Braverman must be the shortest political redemption in British history?
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Not sure how many seats that saves though.
Not just IKEA, the Tories too 🤭
Fumbled it, Rishi…
They can't all be back.
What's your solution?
Not a good start.
Who does Braverman have photos of, anyway?
What a dimwit.
Braverman was sacked from the job to which he has just appointed her, er, five days ago.
The misery continues, the chaos endures.
This is probably his first time putting a cabinet together.
Braverman Home Sec?
FFS.
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The Suella Braverman appointment shows just how significant her intervention backing Rishi Sunak was.
He couldn't give a flying fuck.
Braverman though is a specific choice to bring back, not simply not sack. Different kettle of fish.
Getting annoyed by the announcement of a stream of non-entities.
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Is there a book on the first minister to resign yet?
If Rishi Sunak were serious about owning the libs he'd appoint Boris Johnson his ethics adviser.
https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1584939423703396352
He had a choice.
He decided he didn’t care.
So much for integrity.
Good presentation, I grant you, but any politician can chuck billions at a massive pandemic/energy bills and make it look good.
Quite impressive return if we are honest.
To say give all EU citizens the theoretical right to come over here in their millions after voting precisely to curtail just that right is just ridiculous.
Also suggests that (alleged) fiscal reasons for SB's resignation last week have been overcome.
As for violation of ministerial code, her's appeared somewhat penny-ante (pun not originally intended) compared to other recent, ridiculously egregious examples?
It looks very @TSE , especially the white leather boots.
Even if she identifies as a Buddhist?
https://twitter.com/andydrewz/status/1584935882129539072?s=61&t=fgX5b1R-hUaRU754AoA5_Q
Mistake.
Sunak was happy to be part of the Vote Leave campaign. He was one of the first Boris backers in 2019. He was attending/in Boris's cabinet from the beginning until nearly the end. He was happy to be Dom's sub when Javid was constructively dismissed. He's gone along with all the ghastly stuff.
He may well have more integrity than his predecessors. But not necessarily much more.
Is he speed-running the "Time to Self Sabotage" achievement or what?
Sky are commenting that Sunak seems to be wanting continuity whenever possible to hit the ground running but where is Mordaunt
Anyway I continue to be delighted Johnson and Truss are yesterday's news and Sunak and Hunt are the key to the immediate prospects of reassuring the money markets and hopefully seeing downward pressure on mortgage rates
I think it was @Leon who commented that of course Sunak's critics are the ones who would not vote conservative, but the next few weeks and months will be very interesting starting with PMQ's tomorrow
I think strong control of borders is good in so far as we need to filter those who intend to do us harm or commit criminal acts (one reason I don't like Schengen) but beyond that I would like to see a default position that people are encouraged to come and work and study here rather than pushed away.
Are you trying to redefine the meaning of "Ruthlessness"?
Given the choice, the freemarketeers as pretty much a United gang, all chose Rishi as the one more likely closer to their core beliefs - expanding the role of the markets in solving economic and social problems. promote the intellectual case for a free economy, low taxes, freedom in education, health and welfare and lower levels of regulation.
To read anymore than that into why they back Sunak over Boris as Hodges is doing is just getting bloody stupid now.
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1584942892489244674
He's destroying Sunak (beta cuck) with that handshake.
Braverman must be the shortest political redemption in British history?