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edited November 2022 in General
Truss quits – politicalbetting.com

BREAKING – Liz Truss resigns, leadership election in next week pic.twitter.com/DhJodt3VEP

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  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,123
    edited October 2022
    First like Sunak.
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    1 or 2
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,767
    Time for Rishi to break his silence and ride in on his white horse
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    1 week.
    MPs only?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,255
    Are we to understand that the leadership contest's meat will take place whilst Mike is on holiday.

    Uncanny.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,555
    Who is the stop Rishi candidate?
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 8,609
    edited October 2022
    Lack of a confidence vote makes me (beting wise) a very happy bunny.

    Hat tip to whoever (Stocky?) pointed out the rules would make that hard to organise within the first year.

    Shame for me that Truss didn't hang on until next year, but I'm still up overall.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,513
    C'mon Theresa, hat in the ring.

    (Not happening.)
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,720
    Mordaunt or Sunak I think.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    Slackbladder said:

    Time for Rishi to break his silence and ride in on his white horse

    Tout de suite before a 'statement from the Caribbean'
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,861
    Theresa May matched at 1000. But matched since at 60.
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,027
    If Sunak does win, I hope to god the ERG/ Spartans reel their necks in and allow him to get on. Wishful thinking though
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,664
    Sunak 1.62

    Plummeting
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,798
    Slackbladder said:

    Time for Rishi to break his silence and ride in on his white horse

    White Shetland pony shirly?
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,795
    Leadership contenders
    Sunak
    Mordant
    Braverman
    Chisti
    Ghost of Thatcher

    Who else?
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    Jonathan said:

    Who is the stop Rishi candidate?

    Suella
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,273
    Sunak by coronation now
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,767
    Jonathan said:

    Who is the stop Rishi candidate?

    Holy shit...it's going to be Boris isn't it.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,513
    Sterling up.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,555
    TimS said:

    Mordaunt or Sunak I think.

    Neither is the Daily Mail preferred candidate. Who is the stop Rishi candidate.
  • NemtynakhtNemtynakht Posts: 2,329
    I think this must be the first time since the site started when I haven't commented during the tenure of a prime minister! Hopefully a lesson for all politicians that you need to build a consensus and take people with you. Tories in headless chicken more at the moment spewing out policies like Alan Partridge coming up with TV ideas. Monkey tennis anyone?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,357
    Now we need to hear from the 22.

    Do NOT fuck it up this time.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,861
    Rishi 1.52-1.53
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,774
    Nigelb said:

    C'mon Theresa, hat in the ring.

    (Not happening.)

    She was only ever going to be a caretaker
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,455
    edited October 2022
    RochdalePioneers said:

    Leadership contenders
    Sunak
    Mordant
    Braverman
    Chisti
    Ghost of Thatcher

    Who else?

    I am free...at least I could do a week or two ;-)
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,793
    its for her own good so pleased. Nobody should be being open to such personal abuse when trying to do a difficult job.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,774
    Jonathan said:

    Who is the stop Rishi candidate?

    Penny, surely?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    My post on Monday:

    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/4172946#Comment_4172946

    tl;dr - my source says Rishi.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,255
    We need SGBOL quickly in front of the camera to confirm the timetable.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,586
    How is Sunak, if be him, going to control the ERG mob?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,480
    Theuniondivvie said:

    Slackbladder said:

    Time for Rishi to break his silence and ride in on his white horse

    White Shetland pony shirly?
    Are you suggesting he is a little hoarse?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,357
    RochdalePioneers said:

    Leadership contenders
    Sunak
    Mordant
    Braverman
    Chisti
    Ghost of Thatcher

    Who else?

    Hunt
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    Jonathan said:

    TimS said:

    Mordaunt or Sunak I think.

    Neither is the Daily Mail preferred candidate. Who is the stop Rishi candidate.
    The Daily Mail has a great history of forgetting it's history. They'll go for Penny!
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,772
    I suspect it will be Sunak if he runs.

    Watch Penny - if she steps back she’s done a deal with him.

    If he doesn’t run it will be Penny.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,700
    FPT: So, will it be just Sunak versus Mordaunt?
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,548
    IF you stopped just about anybody on just about any street corner or country crossroad in USA, and asked them, "Who is the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom?" believe that most who could give a name would reply, "Boris Johnson?"

    With the next most frequent response being, "Tony Blair?"
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,555
    IanB2 said:

    Jonathan said:

    Who is the stop Rishi candidate?

    Penny, surely?
    Daily Mail hates her.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,586
    Selebian said:

    Lack of a confidence vote makes me (beting wise) a very happy bunny.

    Hat tip to whoever (Stocky) pointed out the rules would make that hard to organise within the first year.

    Shame for me that Truss didn't hang on until next year, but I'm still up overall.

    Could you sue her maybe?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,153
    There we go then! After 195 years George Canning will no longer be Britain's shortest Prime Minister by tenure!

    Crazy times...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,513
    Foxy said:

    The lettuce wins!

    https://twitter.com/dailystar/status/1583074250990055427?t=CUxzvTLbUgjutEALCFnnAw&s=19

    Past its sell by, though.
    I don't really rate its leadership chances.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    Liz Truss has a great career ahead as an after-dinner speaker in what not to do.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,320
    TimS said:

    Mordaunt or Sunak I think.

    The fact that it's a contest means it's still perhaps more open than it might appear.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,575
    MarqueeMark said:

    RochdalePioneers said:

    Leadership contenders
    Sunak
    Mordant
    Braverman
    Chisti
    Ghost of Thatcher

    Who else?

    Hunt
    Boris?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    A moment of Silence for Pulpstar.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,455
    AlistairM said:

    Liz Truss has a great career ahead as an after-dinner speaker in what not to do.

    Gerald Ratner made a fortune by doing that.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 8,609
    edited October 2022
    This aged well (from all of two days ago).

    I've actually just laid Truss 2022 exit (well, backed the other options as odds were more favourable). I don't see the Cons pulling themselves together and organising a coup, they can't go to the members and they won't manage to orangise a coronation without some loons putting forward another candidate. Hunt as CoE has/will stabilise things a bit and the urgency will go (polls remain terrible, but they will hope something turns up before the GE/a unity candidate will emerge).

    Still, I wasn't betting on last night's fracking disaster.

    Popcorn on hand for the next few days...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,357
    Razedabode said:

    If Sunak does win, I hope to god the ERG/ Spartans reel their necks in and allow him to get on. Wishful thinking though

    The new PM should ban all social media postings by MPs for at least a month. Lose the whip job.

    Number 10 should use it VERY sparingly too.
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,027
    Benpointer said:

    How is Sunak, if be him, going to control the ERG mob?

    You’d have to hope the ERG are looking like total fools after the Truss saga
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,301
    So a nice quiet stint for me as guest editor starting on Saturday.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,123
    GIN1138 said:

    There we go then! After 195 years George Canning will no longer be Britain's shortest Prime Minister by tenure!

    Crazy times...

    Duke of Wellington still holds the record for shortest stint.
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 686
    1922 will vet any possible fringe candidates and lunatics (Sue Ellen) and tell them to shut up and sit down - leaving straight fight between Penny M and Sunak. All over in a couple of days
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    Jeremy Hunt won't stand for the leadership
    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1583076748916187136
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited October 2022
    My hunch is Sunak @1.5 is too short

    I’ve laid
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,788
    Jonathan said:

    IanB2 said:

    Jonathan said:

    Who is the stop Rishi candidate?

    Penny, surely?
    Daily Mail hates her.
    Not relevant if the members don't vote.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,767
    Benpointer said:

    How is Sunak, if be him, going to control the ERG mob?

    Ignore them. They're utterly discredited.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,205
    What I'd like:

    A snap general election.

    Failing that, a Hunt / Mordaunt / Sunak top team (PM / Chancellor / HS). Don't particularly care who is in which role, but I think those three are the only ones at the top of the party who can settle the ship in these times.

    Part of me would quite like May back; she was not as bad as many say (especially if they view events through Brexit! glasses), and it would be worth it to hear Boris's screams. ;)
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,774
    edited October 2022
    Rehman Chishti stands ready for the nation’s call….
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,480
    edited October 2022
    AlistairM said:

    Liz Truss has a great career ahead as an after-dinner speaker in what not to do.

    Ratner can now leave the dictionary of phrase and fable. He has been well and truly Trussed.

  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,586
    Razedabode said:

    Benpointer said:

    How is Sunak, if be him, going to control the ERG mob?

    You’d have to hope the ERG are looking like total fools after the Truss saga
    That's not going to stop them; they always looked like total fools to me.
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,793
    AlistairM said:

    Liz Truss has a great career ahead as an after-dinner speaker in what not to do.

    yes the Nick Leeson route
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,357
    Jonathan said:

    IanB2 said:

    Jonathan said:

    Who is the stop Rishi candidate?

    Penny, surely?
    Daily Mail hates her.
    As good a reason as any to back her.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,599
    If Boris stubbornly stood, he would win wouldnt he......
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,314
    They would be absolutely crazy to go for Mordaunt. Far too much of a gamble - even more so than Truss. Could backfire spectacularly.

    So, probably Mordaunt.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,357
    Hunt NOT standing.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,183
    edited October 2022
    It's a testament to the resilience of our institutions that it's possible within the space of three months to have two monarchs, three PMs and four chancellors without turning a hair. Any other country would be a laughing stock.
  • PaulSimonPaulSimon Posts: 34
    The best option is Mordaunt as PM and Sunak back as Chancellor, but I don't think he'd be interested in anything other than the top job. So it's either PM4PM or get Ready for Rishi, and I think either of them keeps Hunt as Chancellor (sadly).
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,774
    JosiasJessop said:

    What I'd like:

    A snap general election.

    Failing that, a Hunt / Mordaunt / Sunak top team (PM / Chancellor / HS). Don't particularly care who is in which role, but I think those three are the only ones at the top of the party who can settle the ship in these times.

    Part of me would quite like May back; she was not as bad as many say (especially if they view events through Brexit! glasses), and it would be worth it to hear Boris's screams. ;)

    May’s certainly racing up the table - only third or fourth worst now!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,639
    "the mandate on which I was elected by the Conservative party"

    Of course, 98% of the UK population don't count.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,455
    MarqueeMark said:

    Hunt NOT standing.

    Is that because he is already in charge ;-)
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,774
    Hunt says “not me “
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,774
    BBC says online member vote is possible
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    edited October 2022
    GIN1138 said:

    There we go then! After 195 years George Canning will no longer be Britain's shortest Prime Minister by tenure!

    Crazy times...

    Its Goderich's ghost that is most grateful as Canning died in office. Goderichs 143 days is the shortest 'failed' premiership. Intersstingly he apparantly cried when in with HMK but within days was eminently relieved
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,570
    philiph said:

    1 week.
    MPs only?

    philiph said:

    1 week.
    MPs only?

    I think it is just going to be a cage fight next Wednesday; the winner having two days for hospital treatment, before being presented as the new PM.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    edited October 2022
    JRM has become the bellwether for a new Cons administration.

    Get rid instantly? Has a shot at it erring towards being sensible.
    Keep? More of the bonkers.
  • mickydroymickydroy Posts: 316
    AlistairM said:

    Jonathan said:

    TimS said:

    Mordaunt or Sunak I think.

    Neither is the Daily Mail preferred candidate. Who is the stop Rishi candidate.
    The Daily Mail has a great history of forgetting it's history. They'll go for Penny!
    Exactly, Cue, In Penny we trust headlines from the joke that is the Daily Mail
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 4,363
    MarqueeMark said:

    Hunt NOT standing.

    Smart chap. The next one, whoever it is, will likely be out on their ear too after also failing to herd cats and deliver unicorns.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,892
    ping said:

    My hunch is Sunak @1.5 is too short

    I’ve laid

    You might want to reconsider, Rishi loses me a ton.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,320
    Will Badenoch stand or be a kingmaker?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,774
    Alphabet_Soup said:

    It's a testament to the resilience of our institutions that it's possible within the space of three months to have two monarchs, three PMs and four chancellors without turning a hair. Any other country would be a laughing stock.

    We ARE now a laughing stock!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,513
    Hunt rules self out.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,200
    IanB2 said:

    BBC says online member vote is possible

    God no . They could pick Braverman if she made the last two .
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,586
    Alphabet_Soup said:

    It's a testament to the resilience of our institutions that it's possible within the space of three months to have two monarchs, three PMs and four chancellors without turning a hair. Any other country would be a laughing stock.

    That last sentence was unnecessarily cruel.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,994
    Hunt not standing.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,555
    Who is the Boris / Daily Mail's candidate? They will want a winner. I can't see that yet, but its unlikely to be Mordant or Sunak.

    Boris?
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,772
    IanB2 said:

    BBC says online member vote is possible

    Oh sweet Jesus please no.

    That said, good for Penny if so.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Just been told that that election should form the shape of a Papal conclave . Two days limit before white smoke. Sunak. Mordaunt. Hunt. Wallace. Threshold has to reach 75 - the the third place will be ballotted.

    https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/1583076002494042113
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    PaulSimon said:

    The best option is Mordaunt as PM and Sunak back as Chancellor, but I don't think he'd be interested in anything other than the top job. So it's either PM4PM or get Ready for Rishi, and I think either of them keeps Hunt as Chancellor (sadly).

    Tory MPs should think about who gives them the best chance of keeping their seats. They are going to lose the general election come what may. I think Mordaunt is more likely to than Sunak.
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,793
    The bond markets took her down - a lesson for any future pm or government
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,871
    Casino_Royale said:

    Hunt not standing.

    Someone who would change from his economic direction now would be insane though. Back and forth just won't work.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,205
    tlg86 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    There we go then! After 195 years George Canning will no longer be Britain's shortest Prime Minister by tenure!

    Crazy times...

    Duke of Wellington still holds the record for shortest stint.
    Yeah, his caretaker stint - about three weeks, whilst Peel returned from Italy. Peel himself only lasted a few months (but got elected again for a full term)
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,767
    IanB2 said:

    BBC says online member vote is possible

    Do they know how to use computers?
  • NemtynakhtNemtynakht Posts: 2,329
    Really what the Tories need is a Rishi coronation with decent jobs for Mourdant and Badenoch. Braverman can be ignored after the email idiocy. Keep boring hunt at chancellor. They then have a chance of pulling together if Rishi can do something to placate the spartans
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    state_go_away said:

    The bond markets took her down - a lesson for any future pm or government

    No. Her plans took her down. As long as you rely on the kindness of lenders you need to bear them in mind when planning to borrow to cut taxes.
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