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  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486

    IshmaelZ said:

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    IshmaelZ said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/04/sandi-toksvig-lives-at-stake-anti-gay-anglican-church-declaration-justin-welby

    Sandi Toksvig:

    “I have had several credible death threats over the years, sometimes requiring the very kind assistance of the police hate crime squad.

    “Each and every one of those threats has come from an evangelical Christian. Inevitably they have wanted to kill me on God’s behalf.”

    And if this gets death threats over here, imagine what it will do in Nigeria.

    Odd stance for a cult based around an overtly homosexual shaman to take.

    Some cult which has 2.8 billion members
    The Christian cult which believes in physically attacking gay people does not have 2.8 billion members.
    He was referring to the whole religion
    I was. Most Anglicans are in Africa thought and the vast majority of African Anglicans are homophobic.
    You should try African Muslims, Catholics and evangelicals who make up the majority of the continent
    Yes, but the edicts of the popes and mullahs are nothing to do with me whereas as an Englishman I have a degree of deeply unwanted vicarious responsibility for the imbecilic maunderings of that drooling arsewipe Welby, who has pretty much guaranteed lynchings and murderings which would not otherwise take place.
    What a load of rubbish, he has said he will not take action against priests who conduct gay weddings, even if the Anglican church overall sticks to the scriptural line held by the majority of the Anglican communion.

    Indeed it is not a million miles away from the compromise over women priests, where churches do not have to have them if they don't wish
    I'm obviously not as well read on the scripture as you but where does it say in the scripture that gay marriage is not allowed.
    There is plenty in the Old Testament and Paul against homosexuality, even if Jesus doesn't mention it
    So as a Christian (Judeo Christian I believe you described yourself) are you against gay marriage?
    Not personally no but many Christians and indeed many Muslims and Jews too are and that also has to be respected
    So how can you be a Christian if you disagree with the Anglican church?
    I don't, the Archbishop made clear he would not punish Anglican ministers who conduct gay marriages.

    There is also a distinction between gay marriage in civil law which I now accept and in religious law which I am not as committed to, although you can still have a blessing
    You said gay marriage (and homosexuality) was against the scriptures and told me various parts of the bible where it was explicitly condemned.

    But as you are against gay marriage in religious law perhaps we are getting to your real thoughts on the matter.
    Personally I always favoured civil unions not marriage as the latter is a religious term but we are where we are
    So.

    You disagree with gay marriage which the Conservative Party is in favour of and the Church of England is against.

    You are compromising your beliefs somewhere. You either belong in one or the other. Or you have wholly malleable beliefs which change depending on what day of the week it is or who happens to have your attention.

    Plus don't get me started on the fact that you voted Remain.

    Enjoy the Elvis show. :smile:
    Actually most Tory MPs voted against gay marriage, Cameron only got it through with Labour and LD votes.

    Even if they haven't bothered to try and
    reverse it
    You think that is something they should be
    proud of ?


    If they were of religious conviction that
    marriage is only between a man and woman for life, yes
    Don't you think your boy Jesus would have been more open minded?
    Jesus was a carpenter from Royal stock. Son of a god. He’d have an old warehouse in Hoxton turning out wooden penny farthings now and nobody would bat an eyelid at his intense relationship with a load of other beardy guys and a prostitue.

    He was the original hipster. Good old family, famous name, major contacts - even went on one of those desert breaks to find himself.

    Basically Viscount Linley crossed with
    Zowie Bowie/Duncan Jones

    If Jesus directed Source Code he's a
    genius.
    Moon really pisses me off. Probably
    very good, but why is there only one of him, not 3 to cover for illness? And something
    makes a sound in a vacuum in the opening 5 minutes. Probably a brilliant film but I can't
    watch it.
    I've not seen Moon.
    I’ve never seen the full moon but was talking to my friend who works for Perrier today, I call him the water boy, and we had this same conversation and unlike us I said “you saw the whole of the moon”.

  • IshmaelZ said:

    How many times has "I'd be far more scared of dying if I believed in heaven and hell" been said on the whole internet?

    As many times as Do not go gentle into that goodnight has been read at yoomanist funerals
    ""Probably a brilliant film but I can't watch it""

    that you posted earlier returns nothing on a google search

    We're establishing original phrases and sentences as we go
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,784
    As a public service, the BOE's latest MPR is available here:

    https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy-report/2022/august-2022#report-august

    Chart 1.4 shows the latest inflation forecast.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447

    BBC piss me off.

    Apparently loads of sport going on but both BBC1 and BBC3 just have talking heads and interviews with members of the public.

    Shut up. No-one cares. Cut to the sport.

    iPlayer of the Red Button has numerous further channels, lots of full, unedited, live feeds: take your pick.

    Yeah, I know, but why do I have to go to that? Two mainstream terrestrial challenges and they're not broadcasting it.

    Why? Don't they realise that people who are interested in the Commonwealth Games might like to see the sport?

    BBC pull the same shit during election coverage as well.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,706
    edited August 2022

    MikeL said:

    Is there a new inflation forecast graph anywhere?

    Can't find one. Is it because that only gets issued when BoE issues new Monetary Policy Report - which didn't happen today.

    Really struck by FT saying inflation over 10% until late 2023.

    That implies cumulative inflation of way over 20% for the two years to late 2023.

    There is a new MPR today, they are issued in Feb, May, Aug and Nov. Inflation is high until September 2023 because of the huge utility price increase in October this year, which will stay in the 12 month inflation rate until next September.
    Thank you!

    Amazing how hard it is to find the actual detailed graph - it's on page 22 of the link below:

    As at the END of 2023 Q3, the central projection for CPI is actually 6%.

    However DURING Q3 it is much higher - it falls from around 9% in June 2023 to 6% in Sept 2023.

    https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/monetary-policy-report/2022/august/monetary-policy-report-august-2022.pdf

    EDIT: Beaten by 2 minutes by @OnlyLivingBoy
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  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,163

    HYUFD said:

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    IshmaelZ said:

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    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/04/sandi-toksvig-lives-at-stake-anti-gay-anglican-church-declaration-justin-welby

    Sandi Toksvig:

    “I have had several credible death threats over the years, sometimes requiring the very kind assistance of the police hate crime squad.

    “Each and every one of those threats has come from an evangelical Christian. Inevitably they have wanted to kill me on God’s behalf.”

    And if this gets death threats over here, imagine what it will do in Nigeria.

    Odd stance for a cult based around an overtly homosexual shaman to take.

    Some cult which has 2.8 billion members
    The Christian cult which believes in physically attacking gay people does not have 2.8 billion members.
    He was referring to the whole religion
    I was. Most Anglicans are in Africa thought and the vast majority of African Anglicans are homophobic.
    You should try African Muslims, Catholics and evangelicals who make up the majority of the continent
    Yes, but the edicts of the popes and mullahs are nothing to do with me whereas as an Englishman I have a degree of deeply unwanted vicarious responsibility for the imbecilic maunderings of that drooling arsewipe Welby, who has pretty much guaranteed lynchings and murderings which would not otherwise take place.
    What a load of rubbish, he has said he will not take action against priests who conduct gay weddings, even if the Anglican church overall sticks to the scriptural line held by the majority of the Anglican communion.

    Indeed it is not a million miles away from the compromise over women priests, where churches do not have to have them if they don't wish
    I'm obviously not as well read on the scripture as you but where does it say in the scripture that gay marriage is not allowed.
    There is plenty in the Old Testament and Paul against homosexuality, even if Jesus doesn't mention it
    So as a Christian (Judeo Christian I believe you described yourself) are you against gay marriage?
    Not personally no but many Christians and indeed many Muslims and Jews too are and that also has to be respected
    So how can you be a Christian if you disagree with the Anglican church?
    I don't, the Archbishop made clear he would not punish Anglican ministers who conduct gay marriages.

    There is also a distinction between gay marriage in civil law which I now accept and in religious law which I am not as committed to, although you can still have a blessing
    You said gay marriage (and homosexuality) was against the scriptures and told me various parts of the bible where it was explicitly condemned.

    But as you are against gay marriage in religious law perhaps we are getting to your real thoughts on the matter.
    Personally I always favoured civil unions not marriage as the latter is a religious term but we are where we are
    So.

    You disagree with gay marriage which the Conservative Party is in favour of and the Church of England is against.

    You are compromising your beliefs somewhere. You either belong in one or the other. Or you have wholly malleable beliefs which change depending on what day of the week it is or who happens to have your attention.

    Plus don't get me started on the fact that you voted Remain.

    Enjoy the Elvis show. :smile:
    Actually most Tory MPs voted against gay marriage, Cameron only got it through with Labour and LD votes.

    Even if they haven't bothered to try and reverse it
    You think that is something they should be proud of ?
    If they were of religious conviction that marriage is only between a man and woman for life, yes
    Never made much sense that. I mean, I presume Christians with this position acknowledge that people get married all around the world, with Muslim weddings, Jewish weddings, Hindu weddings, Buddhist weddings, Sikh weddings, Druze weddings, Mandaean weddings, Shinto weddings, atheist weddings and more. But presumably they don’t recognise any of these as being valid marriages as they’re not in front of (the right) God. So if you’re going to put up with billions of godless marriages anyway, what’s a few more same sex marriages going to do? Clearly marriage is bigger than your religion.

    If you want to police what happens in your religion, sure, decide who your clergy can marry, but you’ve already lost control of marriage in a wider sense, so why stick your nose in one type of godless event and not another?
    Remember that for a lot of religions, the clergy are all male. Homosexuality is a way to short circuit the power hierarchy. Marriage to women only works if they are seen as "lesser" than men and their opinions count for nothing. It still shocks me how many deeply religious women are prepared to be subservient to their husbands.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,064

    BBC piss me off.

    Apparently loads of sport going on but both BBC1 and BBC3 just have talking heads and interviews with members of the public.

    Shut up. No-one cares. Cut to the sport.

    iPlayer of the Red Button has numerous further channels, lots of full, unedited, live feeds: take your pick.

    Yeah, I know, but why do I have to go to that? Two mainstream terrestrial challenges and they're not broadcasting it.

    Why? Don't they realise that people who are interested in the Commonwealth Games might like to see the sport?

    BBC pull the same shit during election coverage as well.
    Red Button channels are terrestrial broadcasts. We’re talking about you having to make a couple of button presses. Why are the Right such snowflakes, always expecting everything to be done for them!

  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,402
    edited August 2022

    As a public service, the BOE's latest MPR is available here:

    https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy-report/2022/august-2022#report-august

    Chart 1.4 shows the latest inflation forecast.

    TL:DR.
    We're f***ed.
    Quite royally and without lube.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,258
    Jonathan said:

    Thanks so much for the sage advice. I really appreciate it.

    As @TOPPING (I think) said once you have seriously considered leaving a job there is no going back to the status quo ante. It’s a question of when, not if.

    But it’s a heck of a risk taking a pay off especially when you will have earn it back in 5 months (although accept that tax treatment could be different if there is a redundancy option which it sounds like there may be.

    I’m personally quite risk adverse but I would suggest take the new job but spent time really thinking about what you want to do with the next phase of your career. Then you can decide how best to implement - either leaving at that point if you need the time or looking for a new job from the vantage of an existing one. That buys you time which is the most important factor
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486

    BBC piss me off.

    Apparently loads of sport going on but both BBC1 and BBC3 just have talking heads and interviews with members of the public.

    Shut up. No-one cares. Cut to the sport.

    iPlayer of the Red Button has numerous further channels, lots of full, unedited, live feeds: take your pick.

    Yeah, I know, but why do I have to go to that? Two mainstream terrestrial challenges and they're not broadcasting it.

    Why? Don't they realise that people who are interested in the Commonwealth Games might like to see the sport?

    BBC pull the same shit during election coverage as well.

    As I suggested earlier - BBC sport is less about the actual sport/competition now than the social context of sport and how it’s “empowering” people.

    I fancy the crap out of Alex Scott but cannot watch football focus because it’s become a social studies programme rather than a preview of the weekend’s football.

    Best thing is to watch sport and get the sport news from elsewhere to save your sanity.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,434
    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    moonshine said:

    I’ve never understood what’s so interesting about a particular dusty book written in the dusty olive groves several millennia ago. Plenty of more interesting books have been written since.

    As it is the book and the guide to Christian life and eternal life
    Perhaps you can help with a first world problem?

    Whenever I stay in a hotel with a bible in the bedside cabinet, I take it out in the evening and drop it in some roadside bin. I’d hang onto it, but nowadays I really don’t light enough fires to need so much spare paper.

    But am I doing the wrong thing? If the hotel simply buys more from whatever publishing house is churning out these things, am I actually fuelling the bible printing industry? Or perhaps the hotel won’t bother to check and the lucky subsequent occupants of my room will be spared the unwanted propaganda?
    The Bible is full of words. Some of them could make a gay person feel bad, some of them could stop a suicidal alcoholic from ending it all. If you want genuine advice, I'd stop being such a high handed prick about it, and leave the choice of reading the Bible or leaving it in the draw to the other occupants using the room as they have left it to you.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,719
    One for @Leon:

    The Summer special of New Statesman has a long piece on Hillbilly JD Vance and his plans for a war on "woke capital".

    As I posted months ago, one day he will almost certainly run for POTUS.

    He might well win.

    Some of the people on alt-right, MAGA wing of GOP that he associates with are plain barking mad. Does he believe their horseshit or is it just a route to power?



  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,064
    dixiedean said:

    As a public service, the BOE's latest MPR is available here:

    https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy-report/2022/august-2022#report-august

    Chart 1.4 shows the latest inflation forecast.

    TL:DR.
    We're f***ed.
    Quote royally and without lube.
    Quote royally and without lube? OK, if you insist.

    “My Government’s priority is to grow and strengthen the economy and help ease the cost of living for families. My Government will level up opportunity in all parts of the country and support more people into work...”
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,154
    MikeL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    MikeL said:

    eek said:

    MikeL said:

    Is there a new inflation forecast graph anywhere?

    Can't find one. Is it because that only gets issued when BoE issues new Monetary Policy Report - which didn't happen today.

    Really struck by FT saying inflation over 10% until late 2023.

    That implies cumulative inflation of way over 20% for the two years to late 2023.

    This help


    Thanks - though that graph shows energy only contributing 1% to inflation by 2023 Q4 (main line) yet FT says inflation still over 10% in 2023 Q4 - implying huge contribution from OTHER sources.
    Eh?
    That's what the graph shows!
    The graph says "percentage points" rather than "percentage of".
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447
    boulay said:

    BBC piss me off.

    Apparently loads of sport going on but both BBC1 and BBC3 just have talking heads and interviews with members of the public.

    Shut up. No-one cares. Cut to the sport.

    iPlayer of the Red Button has numerous further channels, lots of full, unedited, live feeds: take your pick.

    Yeah, I know, but why do I have to go to that? Two mainstream terrestrial challenges and they're not broadcasting it.

    Why? Don't they realise that people who are interested in the Commonwealth Games might like to see the sport?

    BBC pull the same shit during election coverage as well.

    As I suggested earlier - BBC sport is less about the actual sport/competition now than the social context of sport and how it’s “empowering” people.

    I fancy the crap out of Alex Scott but cannot watch football focus because it’s become a social studies programme rather than a preview of the weekend’s football.

    Best thing is to watch sport and get the sport news from elsewhere to save your sanity.
    Good analysis and, sadly, probably accurate.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,635
    edited August 2022

    The UK has a linear city, sort of.

    Liverpool - Manchester - Leeds - Hull.

    You could even add the north Wales resorts.

    Perhaps we could turn the M1 into a city. Have continuous services providing shopping and leisure, and have elevated housing overlooking the adjacent fields for the country lifestyle experience.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,784
    MikeL said:

    MikeL said:

    Is there a new inflation forecast graph anywhere?

    Can't find one. Is it because that only gets issued when BoE issues new Monetary Policy Report - which didn't happen today.

    Really struck by FT saying inflation over 10% until late 2023.

    That implies cumulative inflation of way over 20% for the two years to late 2023.

    There is a new MPR today, they are issued in Feb, May, Aug and Nov. Inflation is high until September 2023 because of the huge utility price increase in October this year, which will stay in the 12 month inflation rate until next September.
    Thank you!

    Amazing how hard it is to find the actual detailed graph - it's on page 22 of the link below:

    As at the END of 2023 Q3, the central projection for CPI is actually 6%.

    However DURING Q3 it is much higher - it falls from around 9% in June 2023 to 6% in Sept 2023.

    https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/monetary-policy-report/2022/august/monetary-policy-report-august-2022.pdf
    The forecast is quarterly actually, so the 9.5% shown for Q3 23 is for the whole of the quarter not for Sep alone. I think the BOE anticipates another increase in utility prices in Jan 23 so inflation is still quite high in Q4 23, too.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    OMG!

    Kay and Liz have both rocked up in a red dress!
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486

    OMG!

    Kay and Liz have both rocked up in a red dress!

    Chris de Burgh shoots himself.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639
    Liz does like wearing that necklace...
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,163

    BBC piss me off.

    Apparently loads of sport going on but both BBC1 and BBC3 just have talking heads and interviews with members of the public.

    Shut up. No-one cares. Cut to the sport.

    iPlayer of the Red Button has numerous further channels, lots of full, unedited, live feeds: take your pick.

    Yeah, I know, but why do I have to go to that? Two mainstream terrestrial challenges and they're not broadcasting it.

    Why? Don't they realise that people who are interested in the Commonwealth Games might like to see the sport?

    BBC pull the same shit during election coverage as well.
    Red Button channels are terrestrial broadcasts. We’re talking about you having to make a couple of button presses. Why are the Right such snowflakes, always expecting everything to be done for them!

    Thus "Leavers"? :wink: Perhaps if the button was Blue rather than Red it would be less socialist and more pressable?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,064

    BBC piss me off.

    Apparently loads of sport going on but both BBC1 and BBC3 just have talking heads and interviews with members of the public.

    Shut up. No-one cares. Cut to the sport.

    iPlayer of the Red Button has numerous further channels, lots of full, unedited, live feeds: take your pick.

    Yeah, I know, but why do I have to go to that? Two mainstream terrestrial challenges and they're not broadcasting it.

    Why? Don't they realise that people who are interested in the Commonwealth Games might like to see the sport?

    BBC pull the same shit during election coverage as well.
    Red Button channels are terrestrial broadcasts. We’re talking about you having to make a couple of button presses. Why are the Right such snowflakes, always expecting everything to be done for them!

    I have just turned on the TV. BBC1 has a medal ceremony (English gold). BBC3 has a Commonwealth Games cricket match. What’s the problem?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,220
    edited August 2022

    dixiedean said:

    As a public service, the BOE's latest MPR is available here:

    https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy-report/2022/august-2022#report-august

    Chart 1.4 shows the latest inflation forecast.

    TL:DR.
    We're f***ed.
    Quote royally and without lube.
    Quote royally and without lube? OK, if you insist.

    “My Government’s priority is to grow and strengthen the economy and help ease the cost of living for families. My Government will level up opportunity in all parts of the country and support more people into work...”

    Always been this...

  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,813
    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    moonshine said:

    I’ve never understood what’s so interesting about a particular dusty book written in the dusty olive groves several millennia ago. Plenty of more interesting books have been written since.

    As it is the book and the guide to Christian life and eternal life
    Perhaps you can help with a first world problem?

    Whenever I stay in a hotel with a bible in the bedside cabinet, I take it out in the evening and drop it in some roadside bin. I’d hang onto it, but nowadays I really don’t light enough fires to need so much spare paper.

    But am I doing the wrong thing? If the hotel simply buys more from whatever publishing house is churning out these things, am I actually fuelling the bible printing industry? Or perhaps the hotel won’t bother to check and the lucky subsequent occupants of my room will be spared the unwanted propaganda?
    I think what you do is a shame - I dont believe in God either but woudl never dream of doing this for a number of reasons

    a) Its fundamentally bad form for a start
    b) Its the same as burning books
    c) Most importantly though you deny a potential guest of the hotel some possible comfort in perhaps an hour of need - hotels can be lonely places (many a suicide takes place there) and the bible can be of help to some some of the time
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    Liz can avert the recession!

    Where do I sign?

    Should I be bored already? I am.

  • boulay said:

    BBC piss me off.

    Apparently loads of sport going on but both BBC1 and BBC3 just have talking heads and interviews with members of the public.

    Shut up. No-one cares. Cut to the sport.

    iPlayer of the Red Button has numerous further channels, lots of full, unedited, live feeds: take your pick.

    Yeah, I know, but why do I have to go to that? Two mainstream terrestrial challenges and they're not broadcasting it.

    Why? Don't they realise that people who are interested in the Commonwealth Games might like to see the sport?

    BBC pull the same shit during election coverage as well.

    As I suggested earlier - BBC sport is less about the actual sport/competition now than the social context of sport and how it’s “empowering” people.

    I fancy the crap out of Alex Scott but cannot watch football focus because it’s become a social studies programme rather than a preview of the weekend’s football.

    Best thing is to watch sport and get the sport news from elsewhere to save your sanity.
    British "human interest" coverage of sport was copied from America a couple of decades ago; also the partisan coverage of international sporting events.
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,163

    Sandpit said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Phil said:

    So, odds on Truss calling an immediate GE?

    Whoever wins the leadership contest, they may well be thinking: better to go to the country with the excuse of needing a mandate for a new direction /now/ before the winter hits hard followed up by a year or more of grinding recession.

    Alternatively, two years is a long time. Maybe something will turn up & it’s better to have the guarantee of two years of power to steer the narrative?

    Thoughts?

    She would be mad to call a GE because she would lose it and become a byword for loserdom for the rest of time. if she sticks it out she gets 2 years vs 2 months as PM and the chance to hang on as LOTO, whereas if she goes early and loses she is toast.

    Ask again if the Tories have a 15% vi lead in September.
    What would be the point of electing Labour when they have nothing to say on the col? I'd be happy to give them a go, goodness knows the Tories seem tired, but what for? I cannot think of a single policy they have that would make the country better.
    They would find plenty to say in a snap GE campaign. Windfall taxes and nationalisations and wealth taxes.

    What Truss policy would make the country better
    Truss has signalled that she would prefer fields to be used for growing food rather than for solar panels - I realise her passion for BRITISH CHEESE and PORK MARKETS has been mocked, but I would very much support a pro-food security policy from her. We'll see what materialises. I also agree with amending the NIP unilaterally if other methods prove unfruitful - this is a fundamental issue of the integrity of the Kingdom for me. I don't see Labour sorting that one out. I also favour her pro-energy security agenda - greenlighting new North Sea Oil projects and looking at fracking again. That's again something we won't see from Labour.

    Obviously this is all leadership election fluff, but those things are at least a bit encouraging.
    "looking at fracking again"

    Fracking will only lose the Tories votes. Those fracking sites are nearly all Tory seats, a lot of them not very safe Tory seats.
    How’s about if they got a cheque every year, instead of a council tax bill?

    That’s the way you deal with fracking, allow local authorities to tax the output.
    But does that work economically? Is there enough profit to keep all the householders happy? And what do you do with householders unhappy with the mini-earthquakes before the money starts coming in?
    You do not have to worry about them - they can heat their housing by igniting the methane that will come out of their water taps.

    Everyone is a winner :+1:
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,592
    "Canada has authorized the deployment of Canadian Armed Forces personnel to train new recruits from the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    Up to 225 personnel will be deployed to the UK to conduct the training. "

    https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1555227959530627072

    Wasn't one of our ex-military people characteristically negative about the UK's training when it was announced? I wonder if he's changed his mind...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,719
    Truss says she will appoint Cabinet on merit.

    That would make a fecking massive change on last PM.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486

    Truss says she will appoint Cabinet on merit.

    That would make a fecking massive change on last PM.

    She’s going to need a time machine
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639

    Liz can avert the recession!

    Where do I sign?

    Should I be bored already? I am.

    I might turn back to the Commonwealth Games in a minute...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388

    "Canada has authorized the deployment of Canadian Armed Forces personnel to train new recruits from the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    Up to 225 personnel will be deployed to the UK to conduct the training. "

    https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1555227959530627072

    Wasn't one of our ex-military people characteristically negative about the UK's training when it was announced? I wonder if he's changed his mind...

    Better to put trainers than boots on the ground.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388
    boulay said:

    Truss says she will appoint Cabinet on merit.

    That would make a fecking massive change on last PM.

    She’s going to need a time machine
    She would also need people of merit to appoint, which requires more than a time machine.
  • Liz does like wearing that necklace...

    Help a poor innocent provincial physics master here.

    Is there really some serious kink significance?

    An expectant nation really ought to know, even if there's naff all we can do about it.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,747

    Truss says she will appoint Cabinet on merit.

    That would make a fecking massive change on last PM.

    It’s silly that they don’t disclose ahead of time who their chancellor is going to be.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    OMG!

    Kay and Liz have both rocked up in a red dress!

    Poor Otis, dead and gone
  • Liz Truss on NHS. Good on doctors' pensions. Empowering front line workers sounds dangerously like yet another management reorganisation.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,076
    Truss comes across better than I would have thought in this format.

    Much of it is fantasy politics. But sounds plausible and broadly on top of her brief.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,652

    Liz can avert the recession!

    Where do I sign?

    Should I be bored already? I am.

    To be fair her tax cuts and borrowto spend spend spend plan is probably the best chance of that.

    Mugabe level inflation is the hitch.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368

    Liz can avert the recession!

    Where do I sign?

    Should I be bored already? I am.

    I might turn back to the Commonwealth Games in a minute...
    Imagine 90 minutes plus Fergie time of the Hornets versus the Baggies. That f*****' boring!
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,163
    Later!
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,064

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    moonshine said:

    I’ve never understood what’s so interesting about a particular dusty book written in the dusty olive groves several millennia ago. Plenty of more interesting books have been written since.

    As it is the book and the guide to Christian life and eternal life
    Perhaps you can help with a first world problem?

    Whenever I stay in a hotel with a bible in the bedside cabinet, I take it out in the evening and drop it in some roadside bin. I’d hang onto it, but nowadays I really don’t light enough fires to need so much spare paper.

    But am I doing the wrong thing? If the hotel simply buys more from whatever publishing house is churning out these things, am I actually fuelling the bible printing industry? Or perhaps the hotel won’t bother to check and the lucky subsequent occupants of my room will be spared the unwanted propaganda?
    I think what you do is a shame - I dont believe in God either but woudl never dream of doing this for a number of reasons

    a) Its fundamentally bad form for a start
    b) Its the same as burning books
    c) Most importantly though you deny a potential guest of the hotel some possible comfort in perhaps an hour of need - hotels can be lonely places (many a suicide takes place there) and the bible can be of help to some some of the time
    Is it the most useful thing to leave in a hotel draw to reduce suicide? A leaflet from the Samaritans? A self-directed cognitive-behaviour therapy manual? An amusing novel?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,592

    Truss says she will appoint Cabinet on merit.

    That would make a fecking massive change on last PM.

    No PM ever appoints a Cabinet on merit. If they are lucky, they will get to appoint people who ae at least moderately capable into suitable positions. But the politics matters much more. Even Blair's first cabinet in 1997 was stuffed with appointments that only made sense from a political viewpoint. I mean, Prescott's massive ministry and his role as DPM.

    Unless you define 'merit' as 'working well with me, and unlikely to stab me in the back in the next year..."
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    Ratters said:

    Truss comes across better than I would have thought in this format.

    Much of it is fantasy politics. But sounds plausible and broadly on top of her brief.

    She’s on top of her brief too? Is there nobody immune to her charms?
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639

    Liz does like wearing that necklace...

    Help a poor innocent provincial physics master here.

    Is there really some serious kink significance?

    An expectant nation really ought to know, even if there's naff all we can do about it.
    I shall leave it to others to comment on 'some serious kink significance' as I have no knowledge of such areas.

    I have simply noticed that she has worn it several times during these debates!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,565
    Jonathan,

    Good luck with your choice. It really depends on he obligations you have to others.

    When I was 28, I was out of a long-term relationship and in a short-term relationship with somebody who gave me the confidence to make the leap. I handed in my notice, having no idea what I wanted to do other than "not this".

    It turned out fabulously for me. I had glibly said, when asked what my perfect job would be "a cross between the travel of a photographer on the James Bond movies and the consigliere in The Godfather". Which is pretty much what I ended up doing for 25 years.

    Or I could have stayed in Brum, where everybody I knew was shagging everybody else I knew - and nothing much else would have happened.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,064

    Truss says she will appoint Cabinet on merit.

    That would make a fecking massive change on last PM.

    So the rumours of Braverman must be false!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447
    Is Kay Burley going to pun her way through this?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,831

    biggles said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Been reading Judge Dredd.
    Or Asimov's "Caves of Steel" :wink:
    His best books, much better than The Foundation series for me.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited August 2022
    God that BoE report is miserable.

    Table 1:E

    UK GDP growth (ha! “Growth” in the Gordon Brown sense) to be worse than even the Euro area in 2023 & 2024.

    We’re really in the shitter.

  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,813
    edited August 2022

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    moonshine said:

    I’ve never understood what’s so interesting about a particular dusty book written in the dusty olive groves several millennia ago. Plenty of more interesting books have been written since.

    As it is the book and the guide to Christian life and eternal life
    Perhaps you can help with a first world problem?

    Whenever I stay in a hotel with a bible in the bedside cabinet, I take it out in the evening and drop it in some roadside bin. I’d hang onto it, but nowadays I really don’t light enough fires to need so much spare paper.

    But am I doing the wrong thing? If the hotel simply buys more from whatever publishing house is churning out these things, am I actually fuelling the bible printing industry? Or perhaps the hotel won’t bother to check and the lucky subsequent occupants of my room will be spared the unwanted propaganda?
    I think what you do is a shame - I dont believe in God either but woudl never dream of doing this for a number of reasons

    a) Its fundamentally bad form for a start
    b) Its the same as burning books
    c) Most importantly though you deny a potential guest of the hotel some possible comfort in perhaps an hour of need - hotels can be lonely places (many a suicide takes place there) and the bible can be of help to some some of the time
    Is it the most useful thing to leave in a hotel draw to reduce suicide? A leaflet from the Samaritans? A self-directed cognitive-behaviour therapy manual? An amusing novel?
    I dont know but for some the bible will provide comfort when hurting - If there was a Samaritan leaflet in a drawer (or indeed a funny novel) woudl you throw it out in a fit of spite? - I hope not as well
  • I can't believe that they've made cricket that I don't care about at all
  • I've said this before but Liz Truss sounds like she is speaking French: her sentences are broken into short phrases with the emphasis at the end and a pause before the next phrase.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,076
    boulay said:

    Ratters said:

    Truss comes across better than I would have thought in this format.

    Much of it is fantasy politics. But sounds plausible and broadly on top of her brief.

    She’s on top of her brief too? Is there nobody immune to her charms?
    Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the vast majority of what she says, but compared to Boris it's not just constant bluster and nonsense.

    My previous impression was she would be a walkover for Starmer, but that might not be the case.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388

    I've said this before but Liz Truss sounds like she is speaking French: her sentences are broken into short phrases with the emphasis at the end and a pause before the next phrase.

    She's talking like a Frenchwoman?

    That. Is. A. Disgrace.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368

    Is Kay Burley going to pun her way through this?

    By the look of it, yes. Two more since you wrote your post.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,064

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    moonshine said:

    I’ve never understood what’s so interesting about a particular dusty book written in the dusty olive groves several millennia ago. Plenty of more interesting books have been written since.

    As it is the book and the guide to Christian life and eternal life
    Perhaps you can help with a first world problem?

    Whenever I stay in a hotel with a bible in the bedside cabinet, I take it out in the evening and drop it in some roadside bin. I’d hang onto it, but nowadays I really don’t light enough fires to need so much spare paper.

    But am I doing the wrong thing? If the hotel simply buys more from whatever publishing house is churning out these things, am I actually fuelling the bible printing industry? Or perhaps the hotel won’t bother to check and the lucky subsequent occupants of my room will be spared the unwanted propaganda?
    I think what you do is a shame - I dont believe in God either but woudl never dream of doing this for a number of reasons

    a) Its fundamentally bad form for a start
    b) Its the same as burning books
    c) Most importantly though you deny a potential guest of the hotel some possible comfort in perhaps an hour of need - hotels can be lonely places (many a suicide takes place there) and the bible can be of help to some some of the time
    Is it the most useful thing to leave in a hotel draw to reduce suicide? A leaflet from the Samaritans? A self-directed cognitive-behaviour therapy manual? An amusing novel?
    I dont know but for some the bible will provide comfort when hurting - If there was a Samaritan leaflet in a drawer (or indeed a funny novel) woudl you throw it out in a fit of spite? - I hope not as well
    I’m not the one throwing out Bibles. If I encounter a Gideon Bible, they have a section where you can write notes, so I put in a note on the bit of the Bible that says abortion is not murder.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863

    HYUFD said:

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    moonshine said:

    I’ve never understood what’s so interesting about a particular dusty book written in the dusty olive groves several millennia ago. Plenty of more interesting books have been written since.

    As it is the book and the guide to Christian life and eternal life
    Perhaps you can help with a first world problem?

    Whenever I stay in a hotel with a bible in the bedside cabinet, I take it out in the evening and drop it in some roadside bin. I’d hang onto it, but nowadays I really don’t light enough fires to need so much spare paper.

    But am I doing the wrong thing? If the hotel simply buys more from whatever publishing house is churning out these things, am I actually fuelling the bible printing industry? Or perhaps the hotel won’t bother to check and the lucky subsequent occupants of my room will be spared the unwanted propaganda?
    Yes you are doing the wrong thing and you could be reported for theft
    Well, that’s a left field answer that I wasn’t expecting!

    I thought the idea was that some gullible dolt would actually take it away, and that the deluded ramblings of some first century shepherds, as recollected and carefully edited hundreds of years later, might convert them into an extra Christian?

    If the idea is to take it away, how can taking it away be theft?
    It was property belonging to another, the hotel, taken away. They are meant to be read on site
    In all seriousness, I am not sure that this is correct.
    It is, the Gideons may not be that bothered if you took it away to read but certainly would be if you binned it. The hotel could certainly seek to get you prosecuted for theft from its property
    There are worse fates for a Gideons Bible. When I was a first year at QMW, my halls was in a tower block in South Woodford. Midway through the year, a strange thing started happening in our tower: deposits would be left. Sometimes in the lift. Sometimes in the stairwell. Sometimes right in the entranceway. The unknown culprit became referred to as "The phantom shi**er of Old London Town."

    One night, he did a dump in the Gideons Bible in the communal area, and closed it hard, causing a spray of filth.

    He was apparently caught when a rugger player was with his GF, and the lift doors opened to reveal the culprit with his trousers and pants around his ankles, mid-dump.

    Some people are weird.
    The Two Ronnies have a lot to answer for.

    Probably around the same time, as a young manager in the city of London sorting office, we had a postman who would regularly take (or, at least, leave) a dump outside the head postmaster’s office. This went on for ages and the lengths the post office went, unsuccessfully, to capture the guy is an amazing tale in itself, which would take too long to tell now but captures a true picture of 1980s British management. Meetings were held where catching the guy was the main item on the agenda, and they even went to the trouble of drilling a spyhole in the door of the office opposite and having a guy sitting there all day watching and waiting….
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388

    Is Kay Burley going to pun her way through this?

    By the look of it, yes. Two more since you wrote your post.
    And she's burley started.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639
    ping said:

    God that BoE report is miserable.

    UK GDP growth (ha! “Growth” in the Gordon Brown sense) to be worse than even the Euro area in 2023 & 2024.

    We’re really in the shitter.

    Soon the only thing that we will be able to afford is to post on PB!

    The whole economic situation is complete meltdown. No ideas, no plans, no hope.
  • OMG!

    Kay and Liz have both rocked up in a red dress!

    You'd have thought one or both would have had an away strip available.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,161
    I'm immune based on her Planning question.

    Terrible, terrible answer.

    Stopping setting targets for housebuilding in the SE will make more houses get built?

    Which is the choice hallucinogen du jour?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447
    Balancing the books is Liz's real weak point.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,434

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    moonshine said:

    I’ve never understood what’s so interesting about a particular dusty book written in the dusty olive groves several millennia ago. Plenty of more interesting books have been written since.

    As it is the book and the guide to Christian life and eternal life
    Perhaps you can help with a first world problem?

    Whenever I stay in a hotel with a bible in the bedside cabinet, I take it out in the evening and drop it in some roadside bin. I’d hang onto it, but nowadays I really don’t light enough fires to need so much spare paper.

    But am I doing the wrong thing? If the hotel simply buys more from whatever publishing house is churning out these things, am I actually fuelling the bible printing industry? Or perhaps the hotel won’t bother to check and the lucky subsequent occupants of my room will be spared the unwanted propaganda?
    I think what you do is a shame - I dont believe in God either but woudl never dream of doing this for a number of reasons

    a) Its fundamentally bad form for a start
    b) Its the same as burning books
    c) Most importantly though you deny a potential guest of the hotel some possible comfort in perhaps an hour of need - hotels can be lonely places (many a suicide takes place there) and the bible can be of help to some some of the time
    Is it the most useful thing to leave in a hotel draw to reduce suicide? A leaflet from the Samaritans? A self-directed cognitive-behaviour therapy manual? An amusing novel?
    Yes, it appears it is very useful in that regard. Perhaps you feel a copy of The Selfish Gene would work just as well.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,883
    ydoethur said:

    I've said this before but Liz Truss sounds like she is speaking French: her sentences are broken into short phrases with the emphasis at the end and a pause before the next phrase.

    She's talking like a Frenchwoman?

    That. Is. A. Disgrace.
    Fromage.......
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    A woman has just disagreed with Truss. The daggers and the rolling eyes from Lizzie was a bit of a shock .
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447

    I've said this before but Liz Truss sounds like she is speaking French: her sentences are broken into short phrases with the emphasis at the end and a pause before the next phrase.

    Training.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388

    ydoethur said:

    I've said this before but Liz Truss sounds like she is speaking French: her sentences are broken into short phrases with the emphasis at the end and a pause before the next phrase.

    She's talking like a Frenchwoman?

    That. Is. A. Disgrace.
    Fromage.......
    Welcome to the frais.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,883

    Truss says she will appoint Cabinet on merit.

    That would make a fecking massive change on last PM.

    So the rumours of Braverman must be false!
    She will find it difficult to locate any merit in the present crowd.

  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,785
    edited August 2022

    I've said this before but Liz Truss sounds like she is speaking French: her sentences are broken into short phrases with the emphasis at the end and a pause before the next phrase.

    I admit, if she had a French accent I'd be more tempted to vote for her. If she sounded like Marlene Dietrich I'd be a voter-shaped puddle on the floor.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,154

    One for @Leon:

    The Summer special of New Statesman has a long piece on Hillbilly JD Vance and his plans for a war on "woke capital".

    As I posted months ago, one day he will almost certainly run for POTUS.

    He might well win.

    Some of the people on alt-right, MAGA wing of GOP that he associates with are plain barking mad. Does he believe their horseshit or is it just a route to power?



    He might also lose the Ohio Senate race: the latest polls have him trailing badly

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/2022/ohio/
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447
    Just got interesting: Liz Truss had to get involved to break up two audience members who were having a go at each other.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    Liz isn't so sure footed under pressure. She's very good when she's allowed to go "blah, blah, blah, blah, blah" a lot
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388

    Just got interesting: Liz Truss had to get involved to break up two audience members who were having a go at each other.

    Did she whip them back into line?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,719
    These two are even wearing identical shoes?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,064
    ohnotnow said:

    I've said this before but Liz Truss sounds like she is speaking French: her sentences are broken into short phrases with the emphasis at the end and a pause before the next phrase.

    I admit, if she had a French accent I'd be more tempted to vote for her. If she sounded like Marlene Dietrich I'd be a voter-shaped puddle on the floor.
    https://youtu.be/N6QUFqiJx9k as John Cleese put it
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,883
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    I've said this before but Liz Truss sounds like she is speaking French: her sentences are broken into short phrases with the emphasis at the end and a pause before the next phrase.

    She's talking like a Frenchwoman?

    That. Is. A. Disgrace.
    Fromage.......
    Welcome to the frais.
    Would Fishi need to be on Stiltons as he is so short?
  • A woman has just disagreed with Truss. The daggers and the rolling eyes from Lizzie was a bit of a shock .

    If la Truss gets the job she wants, she has two years of people disagreeing with her to look forward to.

    She needs to find a classier way of coping with that than she has shown this week.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,883

    Liz isn't so sure footed under pressure. She's very good when she's allowed to go "blah, blah, blah, blah, blah" a lot

    Channelling Greta?
  • ohnotnow said:

    I've said this before but Liz Truss sounds like she is speaking French: her sentences are broken into short phrases with the emphasis at the end and a pause before the next phrase.

    I admit, if she had a French accent I'd be more tempted to vote for her. If she sounded like Marlene Dietrich I'd be a voter-shaped puddle on the floor.
    I hate to break it to you but Marlene Dietrich was not necessarily French.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,719
    rcs1000 said:

    One for @Leon:

    The Summer special of New Statesman has a long piece on Hillbilly JD Vance and his plans for a war on "woke capital".

    As I posted months ago, one day he will almost certainly run for POTUS.

    He might well win.

    Some of the people on alt-right, MAGA wing of GOP that he associates with are plain barking mad. Does he believe their horseshit or is it just a route to power?



    He might also lose the Ohio Senate race: the latest polls have him trailing badly

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/2022/ohio/
    Indeed. Could set back his plans dramatically. Maybe even permanently. But if he wins...
  • Liz Truss's regional pay policy is getting boring now. She's ditched it. Move on.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    When danger rears its ugly head
    I will bravely and immediately and honestly run away straight away
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,076
    On the other hand, she does terribly under any kind of proper interrogation.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,719

    Truss says she will appoint Cabinet on merit.

    That would make a fecking massive change on last PM.

    So the rumours of Braverman must be false!
    She will find it difficult to locate any merit in the present crowd.

    More chance of finding cheese on the moon frankly.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,635

    Just got interesting: Liz Truss had to get involved to break up two audience members who were having a go at each other.

    Mr Offended wasn't having it.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    She's got a bit of a face in her now. Kay is being a real b****!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,719
    Truss being hammered on energy costs by Sky's Kay.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,719

    She's got a bit of a face in her now. Kay is being a real b****!

    That's her job.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639
    I don't think Liz is going to be the 'Super Trouper' to sort out the 'Return to 1980' levels of inflation 😡
  • ohnotnow said:

    I've said this before but Liz Truss sounds like she is speaking French: her sentences are broken into short phrases with the emphasis at the end and a pause before the next phrase.

    I admit, if she had a French accent I'd be more tempted to vote for her. If she sounded like Marlene Dietrich I'd be a voter-shaped puddle on the floor.
    I hate to break it to you but Marlene Dietrich was not necessarily French.
    Neither was Michelle form the Resistance in 'Allo 'Allo! Even stil...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,719
    Truss drowning on energy.

    How has her team not thought this through?

  • OldBasingOldBasing Posts: 173
    Enjoyable watching Kay Burley ripping Truss to pieces.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,434

    I don't think Liz is going to be the 'Super Trouper' to sort out the 'Return to 1980' levels of inflation 😡

    Better than the man who got us here.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,719
    OldBasing said:

    Enjoyable watching Kay Burley ripping Truss to pieces.

    Pass the popcorn, Jeeves.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,883

    Truss says she will appoint Cabinet on merit.

    That would make a fecking massive change on last PM.

    So the rumours of Braverman must be false!
    She will find it difficult to locate any merit in the present crowd.

    More chance of finding cheese on the moon frankly.
    Wensleydale Gromit?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,719
    Ratters said:

    On the other hand, she does terribly under any kind of proper interrogation.

    Hence not facing one Andrew Neil of France.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    Kay has chopped Liz's legs from under her with the windfall tax question. She's struggling.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,719
    Christ, she is going down faster than a lift.
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