So final 2 to be Rishi and a Stop Rishi candidate - Mordaunt or Truss presumably?
Its looking ever more the Rishi Liz show to me. The two names foremost over the last few months. I dont think the ERG have enough to get Braverman close, Badenoch is a better fit for them. Her copybook is most blotted by being another fox hunting fan. Let it go! She would however delight brexiteers and the moral majority types and is the red wall solution imo
Nobody is mentioning Gove. Will his endorsement be critical? If he and Wallace were to line up behind someone like Truss/Sunak/Mordaunt that could be massive.
Wallace wanted to cut Goves dick off in 2016...
Did he give any reason for wanting to do that?
It's Gove. Did he need a reason?
The funniest thing about the Boris coup was when the rolling news solemnly proclaimed:
'Gove to tell Johnson that his time is up and he has no option but to resign.'
I did warn @HYUFD that Wallace was not certain to stand and I have no idea how he will come to terms with the news
He'll go with whatever he thinks CCHQ wants him to think now.
For now, that'll mean whichever leading anti Sunak candidate there is. But if Sunak wins then we'll have always been at war with Eastasia and Sunak will be the greatest leader of all time, obviously.
I did warn @HYUFD that Wallace was not certain to stand and I have no idea how he will come to terms with the news
He'll go with whatever he thinks CCHQ wants him to think now.
For now, that'll mean whichever leading anti Sunak candidate there is. But if Sunak wins then we'll have always been at war with Eastasia and Sunak will be the greatest leader of all time, obviously.
Indeed but the interesting question now is who will Wallace endorse
On a walk decided to look at BF re the rugby. BF said Aus were only 5 points down with 8 mins to go so I put a fiver on at 34. Tossers hadn’t updates the live score to 17-25, a different proposition
Nobody is mentioning Gove. Will his endorsement be critical? If he and Wallace were to line up behind someone like Truss/Sunak/Mordaunt that could be massive.
Wallace wanted to cut Goves dick off in 2016...
Did he give any reason for wanting to do that?
It's Gove. Did he need a reason?
The funniest thing about the Boris coup was when the rolling news solemnly proclaimed:
'Gove to tell Johnson that his time is up and he has no option but to resign.'
Then, about twenty minutes later, we had:
'Gove sacked.'
It was hilarious imaging how all that played out.
Gove went to Boris to offer him the whisky and revolver.
Boris downed the whisky and shot Gove with the revolver.
Nobody is mentioning Gove. Will his endorsement be critical? If he and Wallace were to line up behind someone like Truss/Sunak/Mordaunt that could be massive.
Wallace wanted to cut Goves dick off in 2016...
Did he give any reason for wanting to do that?
It's Gove. Did he need a reason?
The funniest thing about the Boris coup was when the rolling news solemnly proclaimed:
'Gove to tell Johnson that his time is up and he has no option but to resign.'
Then, about twenty minutes later, we had:
'Gove sacked.'
It was hilarious imaging how all that played out.
Will make an interesting chapter in Volume 1 of the Boris memoir I'm sure...
I did warn @HYUFD that Wallace was not certain to stand and I have no idea how he will come to terms with the news
Its partly about image and Wallace would be compartmentalised too easily by the left. You could imagine the nasty insults. Male/stale/pale 'gammon' etc.
In less febrile times his appointment as Chancellor would have kept this site going for a few weeks on its own. As it is the priority for any new leader is to get him out of the Chancery ASAP.
In less febrile times his appointment as Chancellor would have kept this site going for a few weeks on its own. As it is the priority for any new leader is to get him out of the Chancery ASAP.
He should be ruled out purely on the riduculousness of Wednesday's events. Go to backbenches, go Straight to backbenches, do not collect PPE contract, do not pass Go
Nobody is mentioning Gove. Will his endorsement be critical? If he and Wallace were to line up behind someone like Truss/Sunak/Mordaunt that could be massive.
Wallace wanted to cut Goves dick off in 2016...
Did he give any reason for wanting to do that?
It's Gove. Did he need a reason?
The funniest thing about the Boris coup was when the rolling news solemnly proclaimed:
'Gove to tell Johnson that his time is up and he has no option but to resign.'
Then, about twenty minutes later, we had:
'Gove sacked.'
It was hilarious imaging how all that played out.
Gove went to Boris to offer him the whisky and revolver.
Boris downed the whisky and shot Gove with the revolver.
As everyone knew Boris would do.
Though soberly shooting Gove first, then drinking the whisky in triumph would be more practical, wouldn't it?
Nobody is mentioning Gove. Will his endorsement be critical? If he and Wallace were to line up behind someone like Truss/Sunak/Mordaunt that could be massive.
Wallace wanted to cut Goves dick off in 2016...
Did he give any reason for wanting to do that?
It's Gove. Did he need a reason?
The funniest thing about the Boris coup was when the rolling news solemnly proclaimed:
'Gove to tell Johnson that his time is up and he has no option but to resign.'
Then, about twenty minutes later, we had:
'Gove sacked.'
It was hilarious imaging how all that played out.
Gove went to Boris to offer him the whisky and revolver.
Boris downed the whisky and shot Gove with the revolver.
Just shows how Boris had been harbouring a grudge for many years and finally got to exact his revenge.
Nobody is mentioning Gove. Will his endorsement be critical? If he and Wallace were to line up behind someone like Truss/Sunak/Mordaunt that could be massive.
RU surprise of the day for me is Japan 15 - 20 France. Would have thought the Blues would have run away with that rather than win by less than a converted score.
After 1990 you could never find a single person who would admit to voting for the blessed lady Margaret (PBUH), which makes you wonder how she ever won three elections at a gallop.
In less febrile times his appointment as Chancellor would have kept this site going for a few weeks on its own. As it is the priority for any new leader is to get him out of the Chancery ASAP.
He should be ruled out purely on the riduculousness of Wednesday's events. Go to backbenches, go Straight to backbenches, do not collect PPE contract, do not pass Go
Indeed. In the chaos his appointment to the post has really slipped under the radar but he is a ticking time bomb for the Tories.
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
What I take from that is the ip until Partygate he was no more unpopular than he was when he won a majority of 80. That suggests to me that the net figure is less relevant than the absolute favourable score.
I did warn @HYUFD that Wallace was not certain to stand and I have no idea how he will come to terms with the news
He'll go with whatever he thinks CCHQ wants him to think now.
For now, that'll mean whichever leading anti Sunak candidate there is. But if Sunak wins then we'll have always been at war with Eastasia and Sunak will be the greatest leader of all time, obviously.
Indeed but the interesting question now is who will Wallace endorse
The Guardian, via Jonathan Freedland, wants to reverse Brexit, now Boris is gone
“The dots are all there. Voters are already beginning to join them, even as Starmer insists that the subject is essentially closed. The politicians might not want to say it, but this week is a milestone in the fate of Brexit. The prime author of Britain’s exit from the EU has fallen: the standing of his calamitous project is heading the same way.”
See that phrase and feel the chills in your blood
“A milestone in the fate of Brexit”
What fate? It’s done. Isn’t it?
They want to reverse it and they will try to reverse it and Starmer won’t be able to resist the pressure to have a go
Wrong question. Is anyone polling on whether people want to rejoin, via a referendum”? We’re out now - the question is about joining and on what terms.
Whilst I don't think there is an appetite for a rejoining referendum right now, anyone who believes that the Brexit issue is done and dusted when only 36% (and dropping) believe it was the right decision is delusional.
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
What I take from that is the ip until Partygate he was no more unpopular than he was when he won a majority of 80. That suggests to me that the net figure is less relevant than the absolute favourable score.
Nobody is mentioning Gove. Will his endorsement be critical? If he and Wallace were to line up behind someone like Truss/Sunak/Mordaunt that could be massive.
Wallace wanted to cut Goves dick off in 2016...
Did he give any reason for wanting to do that?
It's Gove. Did he need a reason?
The funniest thing about the Boris coup was when the rolling news solemnly proclaimed:
'Gove to tell Johnson that his time is up and he has no option but to resign.'
Then, about twenty minutes later, we had:
'Gove sacked.'
It was hilarious imaging how all that played out.
Gove went to Boris to offer him the whisky and revolver.
Boris downed the whisky and shot Gove with the revolver.
Just shows how Boris had been harbouring a grudge for many years and finally got to exact his revenge.
Petty little man
I think once the transfer of power completes, the generally accepted view will be what a petty, pathetic, spiteful, desperate end it was. An adult's tantrum. Like the regrettable petty bitterness at the end of some relationships. He needs Stanley to rock up and say 'what an extraordinary performance. Go to your room'
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
The Guardian, via Jonathan Freedland, wants to reverse Brexit, now Boris is gone
“The dots are all there. Voters are already beginning to join them, even as Starmer insists that the subject is essentially closed. The politicians might not want to say it, but this week is a milestone in the fate of Brexit. The prime author of Britain’s exit from the EU has fallen: the standing of his calamitous project is heading the same way.”
See that phrase and feel the chills in your blood
“A milestone in the fate of Brexit”
What fate? It’s done. Isn’t it?
They want to reverse it and they will try to reverse it and Starmer won’t be able to resist the pressure to have a go
Wrong question. Is anyone polling on whether people want to rejoin, via a referendum”? We’re out now - the question is about joining and on what terms.
Whilst I don't think there is an appetite for a rejoining referendum right now, anyone who believes that the Brexit issue is done and dusted when only 36% (and dropping) believe it was the right decision is delusional.
People who are advocating rejoining really need to actually take a look across the channel and see what is happening in Europe.
I wouldn't rule out a Sri Lanka type event in one or more countries there in the next 12 months. At least the UK and US can raise rates to counter inflation.
The ECB by contrast is powerless. Prices are already rising at double digit rates in some member states and interest rates are still sub-zero.
RU surprise of the day for me is Japan 15 - 20 France. Would have thought the Blues would have run away with that rather than win by less than a converted score.
It should be a really exciting and open World Cup, any of six teams could win
NZ Oz SA Eng Fra Ire
There really isn’t much between any of them
And you can see Japan, Scotland, Arg reaching the semis. Game on!
What I take from that is the ip until Partygate he was no more unpopular than he was when he won a majority of 80. That suggests to me that the net figure is less relevant than the absolute favourable score.
Patterson not Partygate was the catalyst.
Agreed. Paterson was the main scales from the eyes moment. He went from slightly chaotic, bumbling, rule blunderer to out and out low rent crook
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
RU surprise of the day for me is Japan 15 - 20 France. Would have thought the Blues would have run away with that rather than win by less than a converted score.
It should be a really exciting and open World Cup, any of six teams could win
NZ Oz SA Eng Fra Ire
There really isn’t much between any of them
And you can see Japan, Scotland, Arg reaching the semis. Game on!
Wales and Fiji are also well capable of an upset. Italy are getting stronger.
RU surprise of the day for me is Japan 15 - 20 France. Would have thought the Blues would have run away with that rather than win by less than a converted score.
It should be a really exciting and open World Cup, any of six teams could win
NZ Oz SA Eng Fra Ire
There really isn’t much between any of them
And you can see Japan, Scotland, Arg reaching the semis. Game on!
Whole Autumn series and 6N to come. I always think that England have a better chance in odd numbered years to win the 6N because we have three home games (against the three teams that play in blue trivia fans) but statistics doesn’t bear that out.
The Guardian, via Jonathan Freedland, wants to reverse Brexit, now Boris is gone
“The dots are all there. Voters are already beginning to join them, even as Starmer insists that the subject is essentially closed. The politicians might not want to say it, but this week is a milestone in the fate of Brexit. The prime author of Britain’s exit from the EU has fallen: the standing of his calamitous project is heading the same way.”
See that phrase and feel the chills in your blood
“A milestone in the fate of Brexit”
What fate? It’s done. Isn’t it?
They want to reverse it and they will try to reverse it and Starmer won’t be able to resist the pressure to have a go
Wrong question. Is anyone polling on whether people want to rejoin, via a referendum”? We’re out now - the question is about joining and on what terms.
Whilst I don't think there is an appetite for a rejoining referendum right now, anyone who believes that the Brexit issue is done and dusted when only 36% (and dropping) believe it was the right decision is delusional.
People who are advocating rejoining really need to actually take a look across the channel and see what is happening in Europe.
I wouldn't rule out a Sri Lanka type event in one or more countries there in the next 12 months. At least the UK and US can raise rates to counter inflation.
The ECB by contrast is powerless. Prices are already rising at double digit rates in some member states and interest rates are still sub-zero.
Also who are the big leaders in Europe now? Merkel is gone. Macron has been neutered by his assembly election failures.
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
Nobody is mentioning Gove. Will his endorsement be critical? If he and Wallace were to line up behind someone like Truss/Sunak/Mordaunt that could be massive.
Wallace wanted to cut Goves dick off in 2016...
Did he give any reason for wanting to do that?
It's Gove. Did he need a reason?
The funniest thing about the Boris coup was when the rolling news solemnly proclaimed:
'Gove to tell Johnson that his time is up and he has no option but to resign.'
Then, about twenty minutes later, we had:
'Gove sacked.'
It was hilarious imaging how all that played out.
Gove went to Boris to offer him the whisky and revolver.
Boris downed the whisky and shot Gove with the revolver.
Just shows how Boris had been harbouring a grudge for many years and finally got to exact his revenge.
Petty little man
I think once the transfer of power completes, the generally accepted view will be what a petty, pathetic, spiteful, desperate end it was. An adult's tantrum. Like the regrettable petty bitterness at the end of some relationships. He needs Stanley to rock up and say 'what an extraordinary performance. Go to your room'
Caroline Nokes Reddened Bottom says ground both of them. Two cheeks of the same arse.
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
It is noticeable that the so-called progressive party hasn't even come close to electing anything that a white male leader.
Quotas and so-called 'affirmative action' do not seem to work in attracting potential leaders.
Having a billion quid must help.
Do either Suella or Kemi have a billion quid?
No, but mostly comments were talking about Sunak, for the very good reason that he has scads of money for his campaign, senior ministerial experience and (unlike one of your names) isn't in a fringe religious movement.
The Guardian, via Jonathan Freedland, wants to reverse Brexit, now Boris is gone
“The dots are all there. Voters are already beginning to join them, even as Starmer insists that the subject is essentially closed. The politicians might not want to say it, but this week is a milestone in the fate of Brexit. The prime author of Britain’s exit from the EU has fallen: the standing of his calamitous project is heading the same way.”
See that phrase and feel the chills in your blood
“A milestone in the fate of Brexit”
What fate? It’s done. Isn’t it?
They want to reverse it and they will try to reverse it and Starmer won’t be able to resist the pressure to have a go
Wrong question. Is anyone polling on whether people want to rejoin, via a referendum”? We’re out now - the question is about joining and on what terms.
Whilst I don't think there is an appetite for a rejoining referendum right now, anyone who believes that the Brexit issue is done and dusted when only 36% (and dropping) believe it was the right decision is delusional.
People who are advocating rejoining really need to actually take a look across the channel and see what is happening in Europe.
I wouldn't rule out a Sri Lanka type event in one or more countries there in the next 12 months. At least the UK and US can raise rates to counter inflation.
The ECB by contrast is powerless. Prices are already rising at double digit rates in some member states and interest rates are still sub-zero.
Without wanting to reopen a tiresome argument that is as a result of Euro membership, not EU or SM membership.
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
Nobody is mentioning Gove. Will his endorsement be critical? If he and Wallace were to line up behind someone like Truss/Sunak/Mordaunt that could be massive.
Wallace wanted to cut Goves dick off in 2016...
Did he give any reason for wanting to do that?
It's Gove. Did he need a reason?
The funniest thing about the Boris coup was when the rolling news solemnly proclaimed:
'Gove to tell Johnson that his time is up and he has no option but to resign.'
Then, about twenty minutes later, we had:
'Gove sacked.'
It was hilarious imaging how all that played out.
Gove went to Boris to offer him the whisky and revolver.
Boris downed the whisky and shot Gove with the revolver.
Just shows how Boris had been harbouring a grudge for many years and finally got to exact his revenge.
Petty little man
I think once the transfer of power completes, the generally accepted view will be what a petty, pathetic, spiteful, desperate end it was. An adult's tantrum. Like the regrettable petty bitterness at the end of some relationships. He needs Stanley to rock up and say 'what an extraordinary performance. Go to your room'
Caroline Nokes Reddened Bottom says ground both of them. Two cheeks of the same arse.
Yes, indeed. But i needed to use him in his position as father, not role model
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
The Guardian, via Jonathan Freedland, wants to reverse Brexit, now Boris is gone
“The dots are all there. Voters are already beginning to join them, even as Starmer insists that the subject is essentially closed. The politicians might not want to say it, but this week is a milestone in the fate of Brexit. The prime author of Britain’s exit from the EU has fallen: the standing of his calamitous project is heading the same way.”
See that phrase and feel the chills in your blood
“A milestone in the fate of Brexit”
What fate? It’s done. Isn’t it?
They want to reverse it and they will try to reverse it and Starmer won’t be able to resist the pressure to have a go
Wrong question. Is anyone polling on whether people want to rejoin, via a referendum”? We’re out now - the question is about joining and on what terms.
Whilst I don't think there is an appetite for a rejoining referendum right now, anyone who believes that the Brexit issue is done and dusted when only 36% (and dropping) believe it was the right decision is delusional.
The Max Hastings analysis- we're stuck with it, but the next generation will likely revisit it- seems sound. It's an unwanted gift from a distant relative, but it's rude to put it in eBay just yet.
Trouble is twofold. How do we reduce the harm in the meantime, and what if the best path is to dilute Brexit to a homeopathic degree?
Louise Mensch is taking the Ben Wallace decision badly.
"Louise Mensch 🇺🇸🇺🇦 @LouiseMensch Replying to @BWallaceMP Ben, duty calls. There is absolutely nobody better for this job than you, and moreover there is nobody who will do it nearly as well, I really hope you will change your mind you are by far and away the most likely person to win and you would be easily the best at the job. 12:57 PM · Jul 9, 2022"
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
The Guardian, via Jonathan Freedland, wants to reverse Brexit, now Boris is gone
“The dots are all there. Voters are already beginning to join them, even as Starmer insists that the subject is essentially closed. The politicians might not want to say it, but this week is a milestone in the fate of Brexit. The prime author of Britain’s exit from the EU has fallen: the standing of his calamitous project is heading the same way.”
See that phrase and feel the chills in your blood
“A milestone in the fate of Brexit”
What fate? It’s done. Isn’t it?
They want to reverse it and they will try to reverse it and Starmer won’t be able to resist the pressure to have a go
Wrong question. Is anyone polling on whether people want to rejoin, via a referendum”? We’re out now - the question is about joining and on what terms.
Whilst I don't think there is an appetite for a rejoining referendum right now, anyone who believes that the Brexit issue is done and dusted when only 36% (and dropping) believe it was the right decision is delusional.
People who are advocating rejoining really need to actually take a look across the channel and see what is happening in Europe.
I wouldn't rule out a Sri Lanka type event in one or more countries there in the next 12 months. At least the UK and US can raise rates to counter inflation.
The ECB by contrast is powerless. Prices are already rising at double digit rates in some member states and interest rates are still sub-zero.
Without wanting to reopen a tiresome argument that is as a result of Euro membership, not EU or SM membership.
Well fair enough but don;t tell me that once you are a member you won't be on the hook for what is going on there.
My point is that Europe used to be an easy sell. Now not so much. In 12 months, not at all.
The Guardian, via Jonathan Freedland, wants to reverse Brexit, now Boris is gone
“The dots are all there. Voters are already beginning to join them, even as Starmer insists that the subject is essentially closed. The politicians might not want to say it, but this week is a milestone in the fate of Brexit. The prime author of Britain’s exit from the EU has fallen: the standing of his calamitous project is heading the same way.”
See that phrase and feel the chills in your blood
“A milestone in the fate of Brexit”
What fate? It’s done. Isn’t it?
They want to reverse it and they will try to reverse it and Starmer won’t be able to resist the pressure to have a go
Wrong question. Is anyone polling on whether people want to rejoin, via a referendum”? We’re out now - the question is about joining and on what terms.
Whilst I don't think there is an appetite for a rejoining referendum right now, anyone who believes that the Brexit issue is done and dusted when only 36% (and dropping) believe it was the right decision is delusional.
People who are advocating rejoining really need to actually take a look across the channel and see what is happening in Europe.
I wouldn't rule out a Sri Lanka type event in one or more countries there in the next 12 months. At least the UK and US can raise rates to counter inflation.
The ECB by contrast is powerless. Prices are already rising at double digit rates in some member states and interest rates are still sub-zero.
Without wanting to reopen a tiresome argument that is as a result of Euro membership, not EU or SM membership.
Well yes. But I don't fancy the chances of EU members who do not use the Euro of escaping getting sting for the costs.
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
The new education minister Andrea Jenkyns MP has released a statement after she was caught on camera appearing to make a rude gesture while entering Downing Street ahead of Boris Johnson's resignation speech.
Louise Mensch is taking the Ben Wallace decision badly.
"Louise Mensch 🇺🇸🇺🇦 @LouiseMensch Replying to @BWallaceMP Ben, duty calls. There is absolutely nobody better for this job than you, and moreover there is nobody who will do it nearly as well, I really hope you will change your mind you are by far and away the most likely person to win and you would be easily the best at the job. 12:57 PM · Jul 9, 2022"
Louise Mensch is taking the Ben Wallace decision badly.
"Louise Mensch 🇺🇸🇺🇦 @LouiseMensch Replying to @BWallaceMP Ben, duty calls. There is absolutely nobody better for this job than you, and moreover there is nobody who will do it nearly as well, I really hope you will change your mind you are by far and away the most likely person to win and you would be easily the best at the job. 12:57 PM · Jul 9, 2022"
Louise Mensch is taking the Ben Wallace decision badly.
"Louise Mensch 🇺🇸🇺🇦 @LouiseMensch Replying to @BWallaceMP Ben, duty calls. There is absolutely nobody better for this job than you, and moreover there is nobody who will do it nearly as well, I really hope you will change your mind you are by far and away the most likely person to win and you would be easily the best at the job. 12:57 PM · Jul 9, 2022"
The Guardian, via Jonathan Freedland, wants to reverse Brexit, now Boris is gone
“The dots are all there. Voters are already beginning to join them, even as Starmer insists that the subject is essentially closed. The politicians might not want to say it, but this week is a milestone in the fate of Brexit. The prime author of Britain’s exit from the EU has fallen: the standing of his calamitous project is heading the same way.”
See that phrase and feel the chills in your blood
“A milestone in the fate of Brexit”
What fate? It’s done. Isn’t it?
They want to reverse it and they will try to reverse it and Starmer won’t be able to resist the pressure to have a go
Wrong question. Is anyone polling on whether people want to rejoin, via a referendum”? We’re out now - the question is about joining and on what terms.
Whilst I don't think there is an appetite for a rejoining referendum right now, anyone who believes that the Brexit issue is done and dusted when only 36% (and dropping) believe it was the right decision is delusional.
The Max Hastings analysis- we're stuck with it, but the next generation will likely revisit it- seems sound. It's an unwanted gift from a distant relative, but it's rude to put it in eBay just yet.
Trouble is twofold. How do we reduce the harm in the meantime, and what if the best path is to dilute Brexit to a homeopathic degree?
I guess I am that next generation, but UK hasn’t fallen apart since coming out.
What is the harm? At very worst we just get poorer and poorer as a nation year and year?
Louise Mensch is taking the Ben Wallace decision badly.
"Louise Mensch 🇺🇸🇺🇦 @LouiseMensch Replying to @BWallaceMP Ben, duty calls. There is absolutely nobody better for this job than you, and moreover there is nobody who will do it nearly as well, I really hope you will change your mind you are by far and away the most likely person to win and you would be easily the best at the job. 12:57 PM · Jul 9, 2022"
So final 2 to be Rishi and a Stop Rishi candidate - Mordaunt or Truss presumably?
It’s a Tory leadership contest. One or more of the above is getting knifed.
Co-ordinated by Boris sat in Downing Street....
You were once big Rishi fan Mark? what actually did change everyone’s opinion? News of all the forty billion pounds of fraud on his watch?
I am involved in a case at the moment that would make a smash and grab effort at the local jewellers by a chap who had just come out of his local, drunk, and been inspired by too many shorts look like the height of sophistication. The lack of the most elementary checks for the cheques is just jaw dropping. £50k bounce back loans for a company that only had dormant accounts, as an example.
But, for me, the big mistakes was giving everyone in the country £400 off the heating bills instead of focusing that money on those who will be genuinely choosing between heating and eating and the idiotic increase in NI followed by giving much of it back again whilst increasing the differential between earned and unearned income for the better off.
So I have some reservations. But that does not mean he is not the best of field.
Louise Mensch is taking the Ben Wallace decision badly.
"Louise Mensch 🇺🇸🇺🇦 @LouiseMensch Replying to @BWallaceMP Ben, duty calls. There is absolutely nobody better for this job than you, and moreover there is nobody who will do it nearly as well, I really hope you will change your mind you are by far and away the most likely person to win and you would be easily the best at the job. 12:57 PM · Jul 9, 2022"
The Guardian, via Jonathan Freedland, wants to reverse Brexit, now Boris is gone
“The dots are all there. Voters are already beginning to join them, even as Starmer insists that the subject is essentially closed. The politicians might not want to say it, but this week is a milestone in the fate of Brexit. The prime author of Britain’s exit from the EU has fallen: the standing of his calamitous project is heading the same way.”
See that phrase and feel the chills in your blood
“A milestone in the fate of Brexit”
What fate? It’s done. Isn’t it?
They want to reverse it and they will try to reverse it and Starmer won’t be able to resist the pressure to have a go
Wrong question. Is anyone polling on whether people want to rejoin, via a referendum”? We’re out now - the question is about joining and on what terms.
Whilst I don't think there is an appetite for a rejoining referendum right now, anyone who believes that the Brexit issue is done and dusted when only 36% (and dropping) believe it was the right decision is delusional.
The Max Hastings analysis- we're stuck with it, but the next generation will likely revisit it- seems sound. It's an unwanted gift from a distant relative, but it's rude to put it in eBay just yet.
Trouble is twofold. How do we reduce the harm in the meantime, and what if the best path is to dilute Brexit to a homeopathic degree?
I think you have to allow for the fact that the EU in 20 years will be a different beast. If the Macron “outer ring” for Ukraine was done in the right way, even I might want to join it.
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
It is noticeable that the so-called progressive party hasn't even come close to electing anything that a white male leader.
Quotas and so-called 'affirmative action' do not seem to work in attracting potential leaders.
Having a billion quid must help.
Do either Suella or Kemi have a billion quid?
No, but mostly comments were talking about Sunak, for the very good reason that he has scads of money for his campaign, senior ministerial experience and (unlike one of your names) isn't in a fringe religious movement.
That latter point hasn't been really picked up on yet.
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
The Guardian, via Jonathan Freedland, wants to reverse Brexit, now Boris is gone
“The dots are all there. Voters are already beginning to join them, even as Starmer insists that the subject is essentially closed. The politicians might not want to say it, but this week is a milestone in the fate of Brexit. The prime author of Britain’s exit from the EU has fallen: the standing of his calamitous project is heading the same way.”
See that phrase and feel the chills in your blood
“A milestone in the fate of Brexit”
What fate? It’s done. Isn’t it?
They want to reverse it and they will try to reverse it and Starmer won’t be able to resist the pressure to have a go
Wrong question. Is anyone polling on whether people want to rejoin, via a referendum”? We’re out now - the question is about joining and on what terms.
Whilst I don't think there is an appetite for a rejoining referendum right now, anyone who believes that the Brexit issue is done and dusted when only 36% (and dropping) believe it was the right decision is delusional.
People who are advocating rejoining really need to actually take a look across the channel and see what is happening in Europe.
I wouldn't rule out a Sri Lanka type event in one or more countries there in the next 12 months. At least the UK and US can raise rates to counter inflation.
The ECB by contrast is powerless. Prices are already rising at double digit rates in some member states and interest rates are still sub-zero.
Eurosceptics have been making similar predictions since time began.
Remember all those fevered posts about who would be first to follow us out of the EU after Brexit? Would it be France, or Italy or Ireland. Who has followed in our footsteps- precisely nobody.
Meanwhile in the only country that did leave the EU only 36% of voters think it was a good move, and that figure is declining. Go figure.
What I take from that is the ip until Partygate he was no more unpopular than he was when he won a majority of 80. That suggests to me that the net figure is less relevant than the absolute favourable score.
Patterson not Partygate was the catalyst.
I disagree. I'd say Partygate was when the public fell out with him. Patterson was when other Tories started to fall out with him.
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
Louise Mensch is taking the Ben Wallace decision badly.
"Louise Mensch 🇺🇸🇺🇦 @LouiseMensch Replying to @BWallaceMP Ben, duty calls. There is absolutely nobody better for this job than you, and moreover there is nobody who will do it nearly as well, I really hope you will change your mind you are by far and away the most likely person to win and you would be easily the best at the job. 12:57 PM · Jul 9, 2022"
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
It is noticeable that the so-called progressive party hasn't even come close to electing anything that a white male leader.
And we are already starting to hear that Wes is an exceptional talent ... so maybe the next leader may have to be another white guy
Quite unlikely, I think the party and/or Beer Korma are clearly setting up the contest to be between a range of (white) woman leader aspirants.
It is tricky.
I would tend to agree that Wes does look exceptional. So, why should he not stand in a leadership election ?
OTH, it is getting very embarrassing for Labour to be talking the talk, and never actually doing anything.
I think Labour would have been well advised not to have chosen the very average SKS, but one of the female candidates -- and the quid pro quo may turn out be Labour can't have Wes next time.
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
Louise Mensch is taking the Ben Wallace decision badly.
"Louise Mensch 🇺🇸🇺🇦 @LouiseMensch Replying to @BWallaceMP Ben, duty calls. There is absolutely nobody better for this job than you, and moreover there is nobody who will do it nearly as well, I really hope you will change your mind you are by far and away the most likely person to win and you would be easily the best at the job. 12:57 PM · Jul 9, 2022"
Terrible news, he was the only candidate who could have united the party.
My preference is now for Tugendhat
What will you do when he eventually backs Rishi
He won't and after today's Telegraph article that Sunak refuses to cut taxes, Truss, Mordaunt, Braverman, even Hunt as well as Tugendhat will all fancy their chances as that will go down like a lead balloon with the party membership and many Tory MPs
Shame about Wallace. Seemed more human than the rest.
The Alan Johnson of the Conservatives? Who basically said I have seen the top job right up close and no sane human would want it.
This sounds about right. There is a massive, and flawed, assumption that everyone in politics is angling for the top job.
As the last two incumbents have particularly painfully demonstrated, it's enormously exposing and can leave a reputation in tatters. There is no hiding place as there is even for a senior cabinet minister. That was an horrendous discovery for May, who had previously made a career out of perceived competence and masterful silence (there's a possible parallel with Wallace). For Johnson, it meant relentless focus on his widely recognised character flaw of factually questionable bluster and desire to please the audience he was talking to, even if it left unresolvable contradictions.
The other risk for Wallace is that he'd flop when it came to talking about issues outside his brief (which he is clearly on top of, whether or not you agree with him on everything). It's not like Tugendhat or Badenoch for whom there is no shame in losing and they could well come out of honourable defeat with their position significantly strengthened. Given Tory member polling, expectations would be high, and he'd therefore be at real risk of emerging weakened. Standing would have meant gambling a lot of hard won capital with every possibility the gamble would fail.
As it is, his approval among members remains high, his endorsement is sought-after, and his ability to achieve high position and/or policy objectives with the new leader is strong.
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'Gove to tell Johnson that his time is up and he has no option but to resign.'
Then, about twenty minutes later, we had:
'Gove sacked.'
It was hilarious imaging how all that played out.
For now, that'll mean whichever leading anti Sunak candidate there is. But if Sunak wins then we'll have always been at war with Eastasia and Sunak will be the greatest leader of all time, obviously.
Boris downed the whisky and shot Gove with the revolver.
In this case he is sensible and I applaud him.
Well done England. Showed some mettle at last
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nadhim-zahawi-greensill-loans-gupta-b2002276.html
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/840b3b32-feed-11ec-88db-ae1b6b9bdd3e?shareToken=84f7ff2b56d6f7f450ecca96d557dce9
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9497839/Government-owned-firm-handed-1m-contracts-firm-Tory-MP-shareholder-pandemic.html
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/nadhim-zahawi-kurdish-leaders-access-parliament-oil-drilling-rights-1726221?ito=social_itw_theipaper
In less febrile times his appointment as Chancellor would have kept this site going for a few weeks on its own. As it is the priority for any new leader is to get him out of the Chancery ASAP.
Though soberly shooting Gove first, then drinking the whisky in triumph would be more practical, wouldn't it?
Petty little man
After 1990 you could never find a single person who would admit to voting for the blessed lady Margaret (PBUH), which makes you wonder how she ever won three elections at a gallop.
1. Matt Hancock
Seeing as there's quite a bit of chat going around the Tories choosing someone from a visible ethnic minority as their new leader, here are some quick thoughts from focus groups where I've asked Tory *voters* - not members - this question in focus groups recently...
So could a black or brown Tory win a general election? Emphatically yes.
https://twitter.com/gabrielmilland/status/1545700462896218113
HY will now root for Mourdant.
Has Gavin Williamson endorsed anyone yet?
That would save us some time in identifying the most unsuitable & incompetent.
Quotas and so-called 'affirmative action' do not seem to work in attracting potential leaders.
He needs Stanley to rock up and say 'what an extraordinary performance. Go to your room'
I wouldn't rule out a Sri Lanka type event in one or more countries there in the next 12 months. At least the UK and US can raise rates to counter inflation.
The ECB by contrast is powerless. Prices are already rising at double digit rates in some member states and interest rates are still sub-zero.
NZ
Oz
SA
Eng
Fra
Ire
There really isn’t much between any of them
And you can see Japan, Scotland, Arg reaching the semis. Game on!
Has 3/10 Apocalypse on monoliths sparked a national concern?
I saw your questions to me. I am about to travel,somewhere so can't answer now but will do so.
Thoughtful and interesting question so I will try and give a (I hope) thoughtful answer later.
BoZo sacked him at 8:59pm
https://enormo-haddock.blogspot.com/2022/07/austria-pre-sprint-race-2022.html
What’s the closest UK have come to a gay prime minister before - mostly including the days they were in the closet?
Trouble is twofold. How do we reduce the harm in the meantime, and what if the best path is to dilute Brexit to a homeopathic degree?
"Louise Mensch 🇺🇸🇺🇦
@LouiseMensch
Replying to
@BWallaceMP
Ben, duty calls. There is absolutely nobody better for this job than you, and moreover there is nobody who will do it nearly as well, I really hope you will change your mind you are by far and away the most likely person to win and you would be easily the best at the job.
12:57 PM · Jul 9, 2022"
https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch/status/1545738855042670594
Truss will do it before the end of the day I would imagine to try to get some headlines
Shapps might as well not bother. He should be preparing to spend more time with his family.
Hunt is likely to try but I can't see him getting to top 2 this time. He might not even bother.
My point is that Europe used to be an easy sell. Now not so much. In 12 months, not at all.
@cesigno
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People liked it when he nearly died
https://trib.al/dwvcRFT
📺 Sky 501, Freeview 233 and YouTube https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1545748543306178561/video/1
Snowflake.
My preference is now for Tugendhat
What is the harm? At very worst we just get poorer and poorer as a nation year and year?
But, for me, the big mistakes was giving everyone in the country £400 off the heating bills instead of focusing that money on those who will be genuinely choosing between heating and eating and the idiotic increase in NI followed by giving much of it back again whilst increasing the differential between earned and unearned income for the better off.
So I have some reservations. But that does not mean he is not the best of field.
Scotland had both Ruth and Kezia in role and out at the same time?
Remember all those fevered posts about who would be first to follow us out of the EU after Brexit? Would it be France, or Italy or Ireland. Who has followed in our footsteps- precisely nobody.
Meanwhile in the only country that did leave the EU only 36% of voters think it was a good move, and that figure is declining. Go figure.
This is what Jolyon said, then deleted:
😂 😂 😂
I would tend to agree that Wes does look exceptional. So, why should he not stand in a leadership election ?
OTH, it is getting very embarrassing for Labour to be talking the talk, and never actually doing anything.
I think Labour would have been well advised not to have chosen the very average SKS, but one of the female candidates -- and the quid pro quo may turn out be Labour can't have Wes next time.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/456bcd60-feed-11ec-88db-ae1b6b9bdd3e?shareToken=c2063f86d5c69c765b1890f239e3e37c https://twitter.com/lara_spirit/status/1545655366582689792/photo/1
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/07/08/tax-cuts-must-wait-says-rishi-sunak-serious-tory-leadership/
As the last two incumbents have particularly painfully demonstrated, it's enormously exposing and can leave a reputation in tatters. There is no hiding place as there is even for a senior cabinet minister. That was an horrendous discovery for May, who had previously made a career out of perceived competence and masterful silence (there's a possible parallel with Wallace). For Johnson, it meant relentless focus on his widely recognised character flaw of factually questionable bluster and desire to please the audience he was talking to, even if it left unresolvable contradictions.
The other risk for Wallace is that he'd flop when it came to talking about issues outside his brief (which he is clearly on top of, whether or not you agree with him on everything). It's not like Tugendhat or Badenoch for whom there is no shame in losing and they could well come out of honourable defeat with their position significantly strengthened. Given Tory member polling, expectations would be high, and he'd therefore be at real risk of emerging weakened. Standing would have meant gambling a lot of hard won capital with every possibility the gamble would fail.
As it is, his approval among members remains high, his endorsement is sought-after, and his ability to achieve high position and/or policy objectives with the new leader is strong.