Any odds on how long his marriage will last if he goes or is that tasteless?
Being booed in public, in a very high-profile situation, which she was probably really looking forward to, must have been a watershed moment for Mrs Johnson. Her colossal oaf of a husband is a figure of scorn and contempt. That is very trying on any relationship. How many marriages survive, for example, a husband imprisoned for fraud or theft? Can you still respect and love someone after they have been publicly humiliated and exposed. Perhaps. But it would take enormous effort. Does Carrie have the stamina?
Memo circulating amongst Tory MPs listing 13 reasons why Johnson should be ditched.
"One reason given for removing him is that he was booed outside the thanksgiving service for the Queen at St Paul’s Cathedral. The memo says this “tells us nothing that data does not”, citing polling that “no social group trusts him, with even 55 per cent of current Conservatives calling him untrustworthy”.
A Tory MP said: “A Conservative prime minister being booed by people who turned up to witness people arriving for a service in honour of the Queen is pretty dire. When you’ve lost the royalists, and a lot of them will be former service personnel, that’s our core vote.” Johnson was also booed while dining at Morito, a restaurant in east London where his son Theo worked. The Mail on Sunday said the prime minister responded with a “dismissive hand gesture and left”.
I've just seen the snippet that Johnson was booed at Morito.
I've been there, it's very good, but definitely a hangout of the liberal well-to-do. What possessed him to think of eating there? He was bound to come a cropper.
Did they refuse his credit card or something?
His son was working there - so I suspect he was making use of a friends and family discount...
Never mind Sunak shocking us by quitting today, is there the prospect of someone on the far right doing so? Perhaps because Brexit isn't being done hard and fast enough?
How about Rees-Mogg - he likes things hard and fast doesn't he? Or cosplay Thatcher Liz Truss? OK so they have been the cheerleaders for government policies they would then be resigning to condemn.
But why not? Raaaaaab resigned as Brexit Secretary in protest at his own work in the role...
Memo circulating amongst Tory MPs listing 13 reasons why Johnson should be ditched.
"One reason given for removing him is that he was booed outside the thanksgiving service for the Queen at St Paul’s Cathedral. The memo says this “tells us nothing that data does not”, citing polling that “no social group trusts him, with even 55 per cent of current Conservatives calling him untrustworthy”.
A Tory MP said: “A Conservative prime minister being booed by people who turned up to witness people arriving for a service in honour of the Queen is pretty dire. When you’ve lost the royalists, and a lot of them will be former service personnel, that’s our core vote.” Johnson was also booed while dining at Morito, a restaurant in east London where his son Theo worked. The Mail on Sunday said the prime minister responded with a “dismissive hand gesture and left”.
I've just seen the snippet that Johnson was booed at Morito.
I've been there, it's very good, but definitely a hangout of the liberal well-to-do. What possessed him to think of eating there? He was bound to come a cropper.
Did they refuse his credit card or something?
Don't be silly, Johnson doesn't actually pay for anything.
Never mind Sunak shocking us by quitting today, is there the prospect of someone on the far right doing so? Perhaps because Brexit isn't being done hard and fast enough?
How about Rees-Mogg - he likes things hard and fast doesn't he? Or cosplay Thatcher Liz Truss? OK so they have been the cheerleaders for government policies they would then be resigning to condemn.
But why not? Raaaaaab resigned as Brexit Secretary in protest at his own work in the role...
See, here’s you - @Scott_xP - a wanky Remoaner, cutting and pasting another wanky Remoaner on Twitter, and he in turn is retweeted by the FBPE wankers
All the greatest anger against him is driven by the imbecile Remoaners
It’s almost enough to get me to support Boris again, but…. Not quite enough. Not this time
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
I wonder what effect Ukraine has had on them.
For years they eulogised Germany's political leadership as the 'true leaders of the western world'.
And now Germany's political leadership is utterly discredited with Boris being shown to have been right.
The governments continuation and reinforcement of the long standing policy on Ukraine - arming them and backing them since 2014 - has earned a grudging respect. On that issue, alone. Even among some very anti-BJ people.
To put it another way - if he was merely muddling along in the middle in the rest of politics, his reputation and polls would probably be stratospheric from Ukraine.
See, here’s you - @Scott_xP - a wanky Remoaner, cutting and pasting another wanky Remoaner on Twitter, and he in turn is retweeted by the FBPE wankers
All the greatest anger against him is driven by the imbecile Remoaners
It’s almost enough to get me to support Boris again, but…. Not quite enough. Not this time
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
Yes yes yes, whatever you need to say, whomever you need to blame to justify your support for Boris. We get it. It's not you, it's us. Thoughts and prayers for you at this difficult time. You'll get through it.
@Leon's had a difficult run tbf - in February he had to ditch his support for Putin.
Anyone else remember the short-lived account that appeared when the "Leon" account was temporarily banned? Went by the name of "Vlad". Still, mid-January. Who could possibly have known the hundreds of thousands of troops put on the Ukraine border by the real-life "Vlad" would be up to no good?
All Cabinet Members backed May openly according to wiki, even though their actions not helping her re the Brexit deal indicate they didnt really back her.
I presume its because they both have to show the leader they are loyal if they win, and because even some who want him gone would want serving cabinet members to show loyalty.
I agree.
Certainly for non-leadership candidates, the phrase "a traitor to one king is a traitor to all" springs to mind.
Well the describes pretty well the entire cabinet including Johnson.
All Cabinet Members backed May openly according to wiki, even though their actions not helping her re the Brexit deal indicate they didnt really back her.
I presume its because they both have to show the leader they are loyal if they win, and because even some who want him gone would want serving cabinet members to show loyalty.
I agree.
Certainly for non-leadership candidates, the phrase "a traitor to one king is a traitor to all" springs to mind.
Well the describes pretty well the entire cabinet including Johnson.
Well Nigel if you're asking me if I would put Boris in my Cabinet, if I were made leader, then I think the answer is obvious...
See, here’s you - @Scott_xP - a wanky Remoaner, cutting and pasting another wanky Remoaner on Twitter, and he in turn is retweeted by the FBPE wankers
All the greatest anger against him is driven by the imbecile Remoaners
It’s almost enough to get me to support Boris again, but…. Not quite enough. Not this time
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
See, here’s you - @Scott_xP - a wanky Remoaner, cutting and pasting another wanky Remoaner on Twitter, and he in turn is retweeted by the FBPE wankers
All the greatest anger against him is driven by the imbecile Remoaners
It’s almost enough to get me to support Boris again, but…. Not quite enough. Not this time
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
I think the desire to get rid of Boris comes from all sides of the party.
Sure. But the frothiest rage and fiercest glee can be found at Remoaner Central
God Leon, I think your obsession with "remoaners" whether wanky or imbecilic or not is getting a bit over the top here. Are you drunk at 9am? Surely a visit to the psychiatrist is in order here, assuming you can get an appointment.
Graun feed, specially for "Mr J will be safe for a year if he wins" folk:
"Brady says no further no confidence vote allowed for another year if PM wins - but admits that rule could be changed Brady will not say whether he has submitted a letter to himself calling a no confidence vote, but he says it would be an odd thing to do.
And he says that, while technically it would be possible to change the rules, as they stand now if Boris Johnson wins there will be a year-long “period of grace” during which a further leadership contest cannot take place."
R4 - contrasting views between Fraser Nelson “rebels have moved too soon” and Sebastian Payne “unless it’s a big win Johnson is not out of danger as 1922 can change rules”. If there is contest, coronation may be preferred.
One thought. If Boris goes, that puts a lot more pressure on Sir Beer Korma. Any hint of police disapproval of Beergate and he probably has to resign, even if he doesn’t actually get a FPN
Ironic that, at the end of the Platinum Jubilee, the Conservatives might finish off the Queen's 16th Prime Minister.
Perfect end to the celebrations, as I said last night
This is definitely the highlight of the jubilee. It is The Biggie that everyone will remember. Just as the Sex Pistols hitting Number One was the clear highlight of the silver jubilee.
God save the Queen A fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb
God save the Queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming
Don't be told about what you want Don't be told about what you need No future, no future, no future for you
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen Tourists are money But our figurehead Is not what she seems
God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord, have mercy! All crimes are paid
When there's no future, how can there be sin? We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in the human machine We're the future, we're the future
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future
No future, no future No future, no future No future for you
Songwriting and delivery at its very best. John Lydon is one of England’s national treasures.
See, here’s you - @Scott_xP - a wanky Remoaner, cutting and pasting another wanky Remoaner on Twitter, and he in turn is retweeted by the FBPE wankers
All the greatest anger against him is driven by the imbecile Remoaners
It’s almost enough to get me to support Boris again, but…. Not quite enough. Not this time
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
See, here’s you - @Scott_xP - a wanky Remoaner, cutting and pasting another wanky Remoaner on Twitter, and he in turn is retweeted by the FBPE wankers
All the greatest anger against him is driven by the imbecile Remoaners
It’s almost enough to get me to support Boris again, but…. Not quite enough. Not this time
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
I think the desire to get rid of Boris comes from all sides of the party.
Sure. But the frothiest rage and fiercest glee can be found at Remoaner Central
God Leon, I think your obsession with "remoaners" whether wanky or imbecilic or not is getting a bit over the top here. Are you drunk at 9am? Surely a visit to the psychiatrist is in order here, assuming you can get an appointment.
The pubs have just opened in Tbilisi ... it;s 1202 there.
One thought. If Boris goes, that puts a lot more pressure on Sir Beer Korma. Any hint of police disapproval of Beergate and he probably has to resign, even if he doesn’t actually get a FPN
Straws clutched. Starmers situation is simple. If he gets nicked he’s gone. Otherwise he’s fine.
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
You would think seeing the PM removed by MPs writing letters would disabuse people of the idea that we have a fascist government, but I'm not hopeful.
A ludicrous list with appalling formatting. Instead of underlining whole sentences which are hard to remember simply bold the key points you want to stick in the memory.
It's just amazing how little the Tories learned from Labour's Corbyn years. The idea that the electorate will shrug its shoulders and forget that it detests Johnson because he has won a leadership vote of confidence is for the fairies.
Corbyn VONC was 2016
In GE2017 Labour under Corbyn achieved the biggest increase in its vote share since WW2.
You as usual are mixing up your wish with the reality of what the electorate actually did.
See, here’s you - @Scott_xP - a wanky Remoaner, cutting and pasting another wanky Remoaner on Twitter, and he in turn is retweeted by the FBPE wankers
All the greatest anger against him is driven by the imbecile Remoaners
It’s almost enough to get me to support Boris again, but…. Not quite enough. Not this time
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
I think the desire to get rid of Boris comes from all sides of the party.
Sure. But the frothiest rage and fiercest glee can be found at Remoaner Central
No, it is not Brexit. It is Partygate wot dunnit. All over the country, people made sacrifices large and small in order to comply with regulations promulgated from 10 Downing Street. Celebrations were cancelled; dying relatives went unvisited. People might well feel personally insulted that those at the very top of government exempted themselves, and angered at Boris's apparent lack of contrition.
In the words of Aaron Bell, MP, Does the Prime Minister think I am a fool?
It's just amazing how little the Tories learned from Labour's Corbyn years. The idea that the electorate will shrug its shoulders and forget that it detests Johnson because he has won a leadership vote of confidence is for the fairies.
Corbyn VONC was 2016
In GE2017 Labour under Corbyn achieved the biggest increase in its vote share since WW2.
You as usual are mixing up your wish with the reality of what the electorate actually did.
See, here’s you - @Scott_xP - a wanky Remoaner, cutting and pasting another wanky Remoaner on Twitter, and he in turn is retweeted by the FBPE wankers
All the greatest anger against him is driven by the imbecile Remoaners
It’s almost enough to get me to support Boris again, but…. Not quite enough. Not this time
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
I wonder what effect Ukraine has had on them.
For years they eulogised Germany's political leadership as the 'true leaders of the western world'.
And now Germany's political leadership is utterly discredited with Boris being shown to have been right.
The governments continuation and reinforcement of the long standing policy on Ukraine - arming them and backing them since 2014 - has earned a grudging respect. On that issue, alone. Even among some very anti-BJ people.
To put it another way - if he was merely muddling along in the middle in the rest of politics, his reputation and polls would probably be stratospheric from Ukraine.
However, he is toast stuck in the toaster.
An interesting 'what if' is how things might have been different if Boris was still married to Marina Wheeler.
There would surely have been less immaturity in Downing Street.
One thought. If Boris goes, that puts a lot more pressure on Sir Beer Korma. Any hint of police disapproval of Beergate and he probably has to resign, even if he doesn’t actually get a FPN
Sir Korma's job is harder if he's not facing Boris. The country would vote in a chicken Korma if it faced Boris at the next election such is the feverish mood against him. Against say HCunt (Or Wallace or whoever) Beer has to actually present an alternative plan for the country - it's a much higher bar.
Any odds on how long his marriage will last if he goes or is that tasteless?
You answered your own question - you cannot help yourself
It's fairy nuff in this case, Big G. Neither of them can be accused of overrespecting the institution of marriage. For one it seems a mere convenience, for the other a career opportunity.
Well I called this one wrong. Didn't think we would have a VoNC.
Still feel like Johnson survives, but am less certain.
Odds of us getting someone better than Johnson, I would guess at 75%+.
Probably the only people worse would be JRM, Priti Patel...? I suppose there are a few national security risks who would be worse too.
JRM and Patel have nil chance so I wouldn't worry. Many are concerned about Truss (maybe a tad unfairly) and I expect MPs to organise so that she isn't in the final two. My best guess, still, is Hunt and Wallace.
Don't share your optimism, JRM or someone like him may well stand on tax-cutting, do brexit properly, bonfire of red tape etc. There's a big market for that.
One thought. If Boris goes, that puts a lot more pressure on Sir Beer Korma. Any hint of police disapproval of Beergate and he probably has to resign, even if he doesn’t actually get a FPN
Straws clutched. Starmers situation is simple. If he gets nicked he’s gone. Otherwise he’s fine.
It’s not a clutched straw. It’s a fact
If Starmer is completely exonerated, yes he’s fine
But if he gets a Dom Cummings-like ticking-off, minus a FNP, then the stench of hypocrisy will be real, if he clings on. And it will definitely be underlined by the fact he will then - if Boris quits - be facing a squeaky-clean new Tory PM
Future generations will now expect the defenestration of a PM as the ceremonial climax of a jubilee celebration.
Salutary fact - future generations will be lucky to ever see a jubilee celebration.
Wouldn't be such a rush to be PM if the sacrifice of the PM was made the highlight. The Royalists are always, at their syrupiest, sayings oh look how the RF can invent 500 year old ceremonial overnight ... so just as well there won't be more jubilees.
Now we have an actual VONC, and before the by-elections, I'd expect to see some movement - particularly since there are strong rumours it could be close.
Ironic that, at the end of the Platinum Jubilee, the Conservatives might finish off the Queen's 16th Prime Minister.
Perfect end to the celebrations, as I said last night
This is definitely the highlight of the jubilee. It is The Biggie that everyone will remember. Just as the Sex Pistols hitting Number One was the clear highlight of the silver jubilee.
God save the Queen A fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb
God save the Queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming
Don't be told about what you want Don't be told about what you need No future, no future, no future for you
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen Tourists are money But our figurehead Is not what she seems
God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord, have mercy! All crimes are paid
When there's no future, how can there be sin? We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in the human machine We're the future, we're the future
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future
No future, no future No future, no future No future for you
Songwriting and delivery at its very best. John Lydon is one of England’s national treasures.
The joke was on the punks.
John Lydon is now an establishment figure. The song is on plenty of playlists - it's lyrics utterly ignored.
Any odds on how long his marriage will last if he goes or is that tasteless?
You answered your own question - you cannot help yourself
I don't know why you are so precious about Johnson's current marriage. Wedding vows from what is clearly already in the public domain mean nothing whatsoever to Mr Johnson. He is just a serial philanderer.
One thought. If Boris goes, that puts a lot more pressure on Sir Beer Korma. Any hint of police disapproval of Beergate and he probably has to resign, even if he doesn’t actually get a FPN
Straws clutched. Starmers situation is simple. If he gets nicked he’s gone. Otherwise he’s fine.
It’s not a clutched straw. It’s a fact
If Starmer is completely exonerated, yes he’s fine
But if he gets a Dom Cummings-like ticking-off, minus a FNP, then the stench of hypocrisy will be real, if he clings on. And it will definitely be underlined by the fact he will then - if Boris quits - be facing a squeaky-clean new Tory PM
One thought. If Boris goes, that puts a lot more pressure on Sir Beer Korma. Any hint of police disapproval of Beergate and he probably has to resign, even if he doesn’t actually get a FPN
Straws clutched. Starmers situation is simple. If he gets nicked he’s gone. Otherwise he’s fine.
It’s not a clutched straw. It’s a fact
If Starmer is completely exonerated, yes he’s fine
But if he gets a Dom Cummings-like ticking-off, minus a FNP, then the stench of hypocrisy will be real, if he clings on. And it will definitely be underlined by the fact he will then - if Boris quits - be facing a squeaky-clean new Tory PM
See, here’s you - @Scott_xP - a wanky Remoaner, cutting and pasting another wanky Remoaner on Twitter, and he in turn is retweeted by the FBPE wankers
All the greatest anger against him is driven by the imbecile Remoaners
It’s almost enough to get me to support Boris again, but…. Not quite enough. Not this time
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
I think the desire to get rid of Boris comes from all sides of the party.
Sure. But the frothiest rage and fiercest glee can be found at Remoaner Central
No, it is not Brexit. It is Partygate wot dunnit. All over the country, people made sacrifices large and small in order to comply with regulations promulgated from 10 Downing Street. Celebrations were cancelled; dying relatives went unvisited. People might well feel personally insulted that those at the very top of government exempted themselves, and angered at Boris's apparent lack of contrition.
In the words of Aaron Bell, MP, Does the Prime Minister think I am a fool?
Yes. It's the sort of people who follow rules even when they know nobody is watching who are most enraged by the failure to do so by Johnson and Number 10.
Ironic that, at the end of the Platinum Jubilee, the Conservatives might finish off the Queen's 16th Prime Minister.
Perfect end to the celebrations, as I said last night
This is definitely the highlight of the jubilee. It is The Biggie that everyone will remember. Just as the Sex Pistols hitting Number One was the clear highlight of the silver jubilee.
God save the Queen A fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb
God save the Queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming
Don't be told about what you want Don't be told about what you need No future, no future, no future for you
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen Tourists are money But our figurehead Is not what she seems
God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord, have mercy! All crimes are paid
When there's no future, how can there be sin? We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in the human machine We're the future, we're the future
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future
No future, no future No future, no future No future for you
Songwriting and delivery at its very best. John Lydon is one of England’s national treasures.
The joke was on the punks.
John Lydon is now an establishment figure. The song is on plenty of playlists - it's lyrics utterly ignored.
"I never thought I'd live to see the day when the right wing would become the cool ones giving the middle finger to the establishment, and the left wing becoming the sniveling self-righteous twatty ones going around shaming everyone." - John Lydon
Ironic that, at the end of the Platinum Jubilee, the Conservatives might finish off the Queen's 16th Prime Minister.
Perfect end to the celebrations, as I said last night
This is definitely the highlight of the jubilee. It is The Biggie that everyone will remember. Just as the Sex Pistols hitting Number One was the clear highlight of the silver jubilee.
God save the Queen A fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb
God save the Queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming
Don't be told about what you want Don't be told about what you need No future, no future, no future for you
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen Tourists are money But our figurehead Is not what she seems
God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord, have mercy! All crimes are paid
When there's no future, how can there be sin? We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in the human machine We're the future, we're the future
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future
No future, no future No future, no future No future for you
Songwriting and delivery at its very best. John Lydon is one of England’s national treasures.
The irony being that the Queen continued on and the Sex Pistols imploded.
I suppose Jim Callaghan's 'fascist regime' did lose power less than two years later.
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
You would think seeing the PM removed by MPs writing letters would disabuse people of the idea that we have a fascist government, but I'm not hopeful.
Me neither. If Boris goes I reckon the Remoaners might feel a moment of triumph, then a weird bit of depression. Post coitum omne animal tiriste est
Then they will resume normal service, attacking some other figure or institution. Because theirs is a pathology, not a passion
Any odds on how long his marriage will last if he goes or is that tasteless?
You answered your own question - you cannot help yourself
I don't know why you are so precious about Johnson's current marriage. Wedding vows from what is clearly already in the public domain mean nothing whatsoever to Mr Johnson. He is just a serial philanderer.
Maybe I am old fashioned but I am uncomfortable with attacking a marriage especially with 2 young children
Brown's time in office includes the time after he lost the election but before he was replaced by Cameron.
When Iain Duncan Smith lost the VONC he remained Leader of the Opposition until his replacement, Howard, was chosen.
If Boris loses tonight, as he should, then he can and probably should remain in office until he is able to advise the Queen on who should replace him and that would take him past Brown and Wellington, and possibly Chamberlain too, but not May.
If he flounces immediately that would be going against precedent and shirking his responsibilities. I wouldn't put it past him.
Ironic that, at the end of the Platinum Jubilee, the Conservatives might finish off the Queen's 16th Prime Minister.
Perfect end to the celebrations, as I said last night
This is definitely the highlight of the jubilee. It is The Biggie that everyone will remember. Just as the Sex Pistols hitting Number One was the clear highlight of the silver jubilee.
God save the Queen A fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb
God save the Queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming
Don't be told about what you want Don't be told about what you need No future, no future, no future for you
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen Tourists are money But our figurehead Is not what she seems
God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord, have mercy! All crimes are paid
When there's no future, how can there be sin? We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in the human machine We're the future, we're the future
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future
No future, no future No future, no future No future for you
Songwriting and delivery at its very best. John Lydon is one of England’s national treasures.
The joke was on the punks.
John Lydon is now an establishment figure. The song is on plenty of playlists - it's lyrics utterly ignored.
Johnny Rotten is now, apparently, a full time carer for his ailing wife
When I heard that it made me existentially sad, partly because it is sad for them, but also because it made me feel about 128 years old
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
You would think seeing the PM removed by MPs writing letters would disabuse people of the idea that we have a fascist government, but I'm not hopeful.
Me neither. If Boris goes I reckon the Remoaners might feel a moment of triumph, then a weird bit of depression. Post coitum omne animal tiriste est
Then they will resume normal service, attacking some other figure or institution. Because theirs is a pathology, not a passion
Such is Boris's unpopularity he's now probably a drag on political support for Brexit.
See, here’s you - @Scott_xP - a wanky Remoaner, cutting and pasting another wanky Remoaner on Twitter, and he in turn is retweeted by the FBPE wankers
All the greatest anger against him is driven by the imbecile Remoaners
It’s almost enough to get me to support Boris again, but…. Not quite enough. Not this time
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
That, I think is at the heart of it. Intelligent Brexiteers will recognize that the job now is to focus on un-fucking the things that Johnson's version of Brexit has fucked; and that will necessarily take the wind out of the sails of most Remainers. It's hard to look coherent if you are protesting someone doing more or less what you would recommend yourself; only the ultra-hard-line "pretend it never happened and imagine everyone will agree to us proceeding as if it were still 2016" fruit loops will be left on that particular island.
I'm not for a minute suggesting that there is such as a species as the Intelligent Brexiteer on the Tory benches, but you never know.
It's just amazing how little the Tories learned from Labour's Corbyn years. The idea that the electorate will shrug its shoulders and forget that it detests Johnson because he has won a leadership vote of confidence is for the fairies.
Corbyn VONC was 2016
In GE2017 Labour under Corbyn achieved the biggest increase in its vote share since WW2.
You as usual are mixing up your wish with the reality of what the electorate actually did.
Corbyn lost and then went on to lose again.
Gained seats and votes in 2017
SO says so
Reality the electorate detested him so much an extra 4 million voted for his party than at the previous GE
One thought. If Boris goes, that puts a lot more pressure on Sir Beer Korma. Any hint of police disapproval of Beergate and he probably has to resign, even if he doesn’t actually get a FPN
Straws clutched. Starmers situation is simple. If he gets nicked he’s gone. Otherwise he’s fine.
It’s not a clutched straw. It’s a fact
If Starmer is completely exonerated, yes he’s fine
But if he gets a Dom Cummings-like ticking-off, minus a FNP, then the stench of hypocrisy will be real, if he clings on. And it will definitely be underlined by the fact he will then - if Boris quits - be facing a squeaky-clean new Tory PM
Damaging comparison
So you reckon the one rule for the Party of Government and one rule for them is extinguished with Johnson's demise. Hmm.
Well there will be an undoubted honeymoon for whoever takes over, although I will suggest, that while Partygate has done for Johnson, unless they get a grip, the economy will do for the Conservatives. You saw how quickly Sunak's reputation was flushed down the toilet. It may all be circumstances out of their control, but those are the rules of incumbency, the rough with the smooth.
Ironic that, at the end of the Platinum Jubilee, the Conservatives might finish off the Queen's 16th Prime Minister.
Perfect end to the celebrations, as I said last night
This is definitely the highlight of the jubilee. It is The Biggie that everyone will remember. Just as the Sex Pistols hitting Number One was the clear highlight of the silver jubilee.
God save the Queen A fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb
God save the Queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming
Don't be told about what you want Don't be told about what you need No future, no future, no future for you
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen Tourists are money But our figurehead Is not what she seems
God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord, have mercy! All crimes are paid
When there's no future, how can there be sin? We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in the human machine We're the future, we're the future
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future
No future, no future No future, no future No future for you
Songwriting and delivery at its very best. John Lydon is one of England’s national treasures.
The irony being that the Queen continued on and the Sex Pistols imploded.
I suppose Jim Callaghan's 'fascist regime' did lose power less than two years later.
You say imploded but they are back on the telly. Sex Pistols: banned by the BBC; dramatised by Netflix.
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
You would think seeing the PM removed by MPs writing letters would disabuse people of the idea that we have a fascist government, but I'm not hopeful.
Me neither. If Boris goes I reckon the Remoaners might feel a moment of triumph, then a weird bit of depression. Post coitum omne animal tiriste est
Then they will resume normal service, attacking some other figure or institution. Because theirs is a pathology, not a passion
You’re the one that can’t move on from Brexit given your continual droning on about Remoaners ! There is no moment of triumph for Remainers given the UK is out and won’t be going back anytime soon.
Never mind Sunak shocking us by quitting today, is there the prospect of someone on the far right doing so? Perhaps because Brexit isn't being done hard and fast enough?
How about Rees-Mogg - he likes things hard and fast doesn't he? Or cosplay Thatcher Liz Truss? OK so they have been the cheerleaders for government policies they would then be resigning to condemn.
But why not? Raaaaaab resigned as Brexit Secretary in protest at his own work in the role...
Is 'far right' the correct description for anyone in the Conservative party? Surely Nazism is far right. Simply being in favour of not being in Europe does not make one a Nazi.
The Norman resignation is definitely more interesting than most, for laying out a variety of policy reasons behind it as well well as personal. Not just one but several, and quite bullish about endangering the union, trying to be presidential etc.
Its interesting as I've no real idea how the party might change under a different leader, andche gives hints of what he at least wants besides just Boris gone.
Jesse Norman's savaging of current government policies is more withering and effective than anything Labour has come up with. Sadly.
It is also a pretty good manifesto for what the next leader should be doing and how he or she should be conducting themselves.
The fact that his wife, Kate Bingham, is the author of Boris's main domestic success, makes it more delicious.
It's just amazing how little the Tories learned from Labour's Corbyn years. The idea that the electorate will shrug its shoulders and forget that it detests Johnson because he has won a leadership vote of confidence is for the fairies.
Corbyn VONC was 2016
In GE2017 Labour under Corbyn achieved the biggest increase in its vote share since WW2.
You as usual are mixing up your wish with the reality of what the electorate actually did.
The electorate told the Labour party for 18 months that it did not want Jeremy Corbyn anywhere near Downing Street. The Labour party refused to listen and ended up with its worst electoral result since 1935. The electorate is currently telling the Tories exactly the same thing about Boris Johnson. We'll see if the Tories also decide that they know better.
It's just amazing how little the Tories learned from Labour's Corbyn years. The idea that the electorate will shrug its shoulders and forget that it detests Johnson because he has won a leadership vote of confidence is for the fairies.
Corbyn VONC was 2016
In GE2017 Labour under Corbyn achieved the biggest increase in its vote share since WW2.
You as usual are mixing up your wish with the reality of what the electorate actually did.
Corbyn lost and then went on to lose again.
Gained seats and votes in 2017
SO says electorate detested him
Reality the electorate detested him so much an extra 4 million voted for his party than at the previous GE
VERY unconvincing. Read the first paragraph or two. Now is the perfect time for a VoNC it seems to me. Ukraine can't be used as an excuse anymore (that war is going to run and run I'm afraid) and the two By-Elections are only going to deliver bad news if Johnson stays. The Jubilee is over, half term over and people back to work. Time for a clear out before the summer recess!
Future generations will now expect the defenestration of a PM as the ceremonial climax of a jubilee celebration.
Salutary fact - future generations will be lucky to ever see a jubilee celebration.
William will very probably get at least a silver.
Charles was nearly 34 when William was born, who was 31 when George was born, so silver jubilees will be more likely than not with such a generation length.
“Liz Truss has the gravitas and temperament to navigate the Ukraine situation “
Words nobody said ever.
Johnsons been fine on Ukraine, as I say let him continue to be a representative on it.
Good point. The Ukes love BJ and it would have the benefit of his defenestration not being seen as a total rejection of his Govt's record, which it shoudn't be as it is quite defensible. Would also help to suppress some of the bitterness of the fall-out. However not sure Boris would go for it. Would depend on who the successor is.
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
You would think seeing the PM removed by MPs writing letters would disabuse people of the idea that we have a fascist government, but I'm not hopeful.
Me neither. If Boris goes I reckon the Remoaners might feel a moment of triumph, then a weird bit of depression. Post coitum omne animal tiriste est
Then they will resume normal service, attacking some other figure or institution. Because theirs is a pathology, not a passion
Have you read Jesse Norman's excoriating letter? No mention of Brexit (other than law-breaking on the NI protocol). Just an attack on Boris's useless government, where serious issues are responded to with crap policies like Rwanda, banning noisy protests, privatising Channel 4, a nuclear power station in every town, and so on. He basically says the government has neither mission nor vision, just empty rhetoric.
The MPs turned to Boris only when things got very desperate and they felt he was the only option to recover position and win a GE. They were right.
It would be very on brand for them to then junk him unceremoniously once they felt he was no longer needed.
I dont expect it, but it has logic.
Boris did what he was put there to do.
But its done now. That's not a reason to keep him.
If a team fighting against relegation sacks the Manager and brings in a specialist Manager that knows how to win relegation scraps manages to avoid relegation, then that's job done - but if you then want to go on to do well in the League you might look to move on from that Manager and find a new one afterwards.
Strange that they appear to think a new leader would be unable to focus on the problems facing the country. Are they saying Boris will sabotage a new leader?
Ironic that, at the end of the Platinum Jubilee, the Conservatives might finish off the Queen's 16th Prime Minister.
Perfect end to the celebrations, as I said last night
This is definitely the highlight of the jubilee. It is The Biggie that everyone will remember. Just as the Sex Pistols hitting Number One was the clear highlight of the silver jubilee.
God save the Queen A fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb
God save the Queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming
Don't be told about what you want Don't be told about what you need No future, no future, no future for you
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen Tourists are money But our figurehead Is not what she seems
God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord, have mercy! All crimes are paid
When there's no future, how can there be sin? We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in the human machine We're the future, we're the future
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future
No future, no future No future, no future No future for you
Songwriting and delivery at its very best. John Lydon is one of England’s national treasures.
The joke was on the punks.
John Lydon is now an establishment figure. The song is on plenty of playlists - it's lyrics utterly ignored.
"I never thought I'd live to see the day when the right wing would become the cool ones giving the middle finger to the establishment, and the left wing becoming the sniveling self-righteous twatty ones going around shaming everyone." - John Lydon
Future generations will now expect the defenestration of a PM as the ceremonial climax of a jubilee celebration.
Salutary fact - future generations will be lucky to ever see a jubilee celebration.
William will very probably get at least a silver.
Charles was nearly 34 when William was born, who was 31 when George was born, so silver jubilees will be more likely than not with such a generation length.
... assuming the monarchy survives another 25 years.
Ironic that, at the end of the Platinum Jubilee, the Conservatives might finish off the Queen's 16th Prime Minister.
Perfect end to the celebrations, as I said last night
This is definitely the highlight of the jubilee. It is The Biggie that everyone will remember. Just as the Sex Pistols hitting Number One was the clear highlight of the silver jubilee.
God save the Queen A fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb
God save the Queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming
Don't be told about what you want Don't be told about what you need No future, no future, no future for you
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen Tourists are money But our figurehead Is not what she seems
God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord, have mercy! All crimes are paid
When there's no future, how can there be sin? We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in the human machine We're the future, we're the future
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future
No future, no future No future, no future No future for you
Songwriting and delivery at its very best. John Lydon is one of England’s national treasures.
The joke was on the punks.
John Lydon is now an establishment figure. The song is on plenty of playlists - it's lyrics utterly ignored.
Johnny Rotten is now, apparently, a full time carer for his ailing wife
When I heard that it made me existentially sad, partly because it is sad for them, but also because it made me feel about 128 years old
There was a fantastic interview with Lydon on BBC Radio Scotland ‘Off the Ball’ last weekend (I think it was the Saturday show). He talked about Arsenal and Highbury obviously (it is after all a football show), but also very movingly about his wife and the role sport and music play for people suffering her illness. Huge respect to the man.
Ironic that, at the end of the Platinum Jubilee, the Conservatives might finish off the Queen's 16th Prime Minister.
Perfect end to the celebrations, as I said last night
This is definitely the highlight of the jubilee. It is The Biggie that everyone will remember. Just as the Sex Pistols hitting Number One was the clear highlight of the silver jubilee.
God save the Queen A fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb
God save the Queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming
Don't be told about what you want Don't be told about what you need No future, no future, no future for you
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen Tourists are money But our figurehead Is not what she seems
God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord, have mercy! All crimes are paid
When there's no future, how can there be sin? We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in the human machine We're the future, we're the future
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future
No future, no future No future, no future No future for you
Songwriting and delivery at its very best. John Lydon is one of England’s national treasures.
The irony being that the Queen continued on and the Sex Pistols imploded.
I suppose Jim Callaghan's 'fascist regime' did lose power less than two years later.
You say imploded but they are back on the telly. Sex Pistols: banned by the BBC; dramatised by Netflix.
To be watched by the middle aged middle class.
The Sex Pistols are now part of the establishment.
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
You would think seeing the PM removed by MPs writing letters would disabuse people of the idea that we have a fascist government, but I'm not hopeful.
Me neither. If Boris goes I reckon the Remoaners might feel a moment of triumph, then a weird bit of depression. Post coitum omne animal tiriste est
Then they will resume normal service, attacking some other figure or institution. Because theirs is a pathology, not a passion
You’re the one that can’t move on from Brexit given your continual droning on about Remoaners ! There is no moment of triumph for Remainers given the UK is out and won’t be going back anytime soon.
There are genuinely lots of people who think Boris is the only thing holding Brexit up and that if he goes, we'll swiftly start rejoining.
See, here’s you - @Scott_xP - a wanky Remoaner, cutting and pasting another wanky Remoaner on Twitter, and he in turn is retweeted by the FBPE wankers
All the greatest anger against him is driven by the imbecile Remoaners
It’s almost enough to get me to support Boris again, but…. Not quite enough. Not this time
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
That, I think is at the heart of it. Intelligent Brexiteers will recognize that the job now is to focus on un-fucking the things that Johnson's version of Brexit has fucked; and that will necessarily take the wind out of the sails of most Remainers. It's hard to look coherent if you are protesting someone doing more or less what you would recommend yourself; only the ultra-hard-line "pretend it never happened and imagine everyone will agree to us proceeding as if it were still 2016" fruit loops will be left on that particular island.
I'm not for a minute suggesting that there is such as a species as the Intelligent Brexiteer on the Tory benches, but you never know.
I noticed Dan Hannah - an intelligent Brexiteer - was talking about the Single Market at the weekend. He wasn’t suggesting we should rejoin, but the mere fact he used the words is intriguing
With Boris gone it will be easier to have that much-delayed debate as to what Brexit should do, and what it can’t do. Tho whether the Tories are capable of that debate is a different matter
R4 - contrasting views between Fraser Nelson “rebels have moved too soon” and Sebastian Payne “unless it’s a big win Johnson is not out of danger as 1922 can change rules”. If there is contest, coronation may be preferred.
I dont get the 'moved too soon' argument. If someone is still for him the by elections wont change their minds. It might not succeed, but it's been rumbling for months, it was time to put up.
Ironic that, at the end of the Platinum Jubilee, the Conservatives might finish off the Queen's 16th Prime Minister.
Perfect end to the celebrations, as I said last night
This is definitely the highlight of the jubilee. It is The Biggie that everyone will remember. Just as the Sex Pistols hitting Number One was the clear highlight of the silver jubilee.
God save the Queen A fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb
God save the Queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming
Don't be told about what you want Don't be told about what you need No future, no future, no future for you
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen Tourists are money But our figurehead Is not what she seems
God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord, have mercy! All crimes are paid
When there's no future, how can there be sin? We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in the human machine We're the future, we're the future
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future
No future, no future No future, no future No future for you
Songwriting and delivery at its very best. John Lydon is one of England’s national treasures.
The joke was on the punks.
John Lydon is now an establishment figure. The song is on plenty of playlists - it's lyrics utterly ignored.
"I never thought I'd live to see the day when the right wing would become the cool ones giving the middle finger to the establishment, and the left wing becoming the sniveling self-righteous twatty ones going around shaming everyone." - John Lydon
Ironic that, at the end of the Platinum Jubilee, the Conservatives might finish off the Queen's 16th Prime Minister.
Perfect end to the celebrations, as I said last night
This is definitely the highlight of the jubilee. It is The Biggie that everyone will remember. Just as the Sex Pistols hitting Number One was the clear highlight of the silver jubilee.
God save the Queen A fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb
God save the Queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming
Don't be told about what you want Don't be told about what you need No future, no future, no future for you
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen Tourists are money But our figurehead Is not what she seems
God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord, have mercy! All crimes are paid
When there's no future, how can there be sin? We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in the human machine We're the future, we're the future
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
God save the Queen We mean it, man We love our Queen God saves
No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future No future, no future
No future, no future No future, no future No future for you
Songwriting and delivery at its very best. John Lydon is one of England’s national treasures.
The irony being that the Queen continued on and the Sex Pistols imploded.
I suppose Jim Callaghan's 'fascist regime' did lose power less than two years later.
You say imploded but they are back on the telly. Sex Pistols: banned by the BBC; dramatised by Netflix.
Pistol is on Disney not Netflix (well technically 20th Century Fox but it was owned by Disney when they commissioned it).
And I'm only correcting it because the irony that over the 50 years the Pistols have gone from being banned on the BBC / ITV to a corporate fairy tale.
Tho I do wonder what will happen to the blind rage of the Remoaners, when and if Boris goes. Will it finally dissipate, or will they simply move on to the next target for their angst?
You would think seeing the PM removed by MPs writing letters would disabuse people of the idea that we have a fascist government, but I'm not hopeful.
Me neither. If Boris goes I reckon the Remoaners might feel a moment of triumph, then a weird bit of depression. Post coitum omne animal tiriste est
Then they will resume normal service, attacking some other figure or institution. Because theirs is a pathology, not a passion
You’re the one that can’t move on from Brexit given your continual droning on about Remoaners ! There is no moment of triumph for Remainers given the UK is out and won’t be going back anytime soon.
There are genuinely lots of people who think Boris is the only thing holding Brexit up and that if he goes, we'll swiftly start rejoining.
R4 - contrasting views between Fraser Nelson “rebels have moved too soon” and Sebastian Payne “unless it’s a big win Johnson is not out of danger as 1922 can change rules”. If there is contest, coronation may be preferred.
I don't see how a coronation is possible. After IDS a coronation was possible because Howard was the "old cardinal" who could be the Leader of the Opposition who'd take the forthcoming election defeat allowing the "young cardinals" to step forwards and have their own time afterwards.
Whoever replaces Boris is Prime Minister. No way will every contender step aside from that.
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Been out walking the dog for an hour. Anything much happened?
Is TSE still in charge?
How about Rees-Mogg - he likes things hard and fast doesn't he? Or cosplay Thatcher Liz Truss? OK so they have been the cheerleaders for government policies they would then be resigning to condemn.
But why not? Raaaaaab resigned as Brexit Secretary in protest at his own work in the role...
To put it another way - if he was merely muddling along in the middle in the rest of politics, his reputation and polls would probably be stratospheric from Ukraine.
However, he is toast stuck in the toaster.
God save the Queen
A fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb
God save the Queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming
Don't be told about what you want
Don't be told about what you need
No future, no future, no future for you
God save the Queen
We mean it, man
We love our Queen
God saves
God save the Queen
Tourists are money
But our figurehead
Is not what she seems
God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord, have mercy!
All crimes are paid
When there's no future, how can there be sin?
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in the human machine
We're the future, we're the future
God save the Queen
We mean it, man
We love our Queen
God saves
God save the Queen
We mean it, man
We love our Queen
God saves
No future, no future
No future, no future
No future, no future
No future, no future
No future, no future
No future, no future
No future for you
Songwriting and delivery at its very best. John Lydon is one of England’s national treasures.
What are they - amateurs?
In GE2017 Labour under Corbyn achieved the biggest increase in its vote share since WW2.
You as usual are mixing up your wish with the reality of what the electorate actually did.
In the words of Aaron Bell, MP, Does the Prime Minister think I am a fool?
"How lucrative is this "ambassador thingy"? How does it compare with the lecture circuit?"
There would surely have been less immaturity in Downing Street.
You have to call these things out sometimes.
If Starmer is completely exonerated, yes he’s fine
But if he gets a Dom Cummings-like ticking-off, minus a FNP, then the stench of hypocrisy will be real, if he clings on. And it will definitely be underlined by the fact he will then - if Boris quits - be facing a squeaky-clean new Tory PM
Damaging comparison
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midvinterblot#/media/File:Midvinterblot_(Carl_Larsson)_-_Nationalmuseum_-_edited.jpg
“Do you think somebody should tell him about the bunting?” https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1533716606781640705/photo/1
John Lydon is now an establishment figure. The song is on plenty of playlists - it's lyrics utterly ignored.
Boris will want to win tonight. Throw everything at it.
He can resign on Wednesday.... he's 'better' than Brown then.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom_by_length_of_tenure
So he wins tonight and gets crushed in the by elections...
I suppose Jim Callaghan's 'fascist regime' did lose power less than two years later.
Then they will resume normal service, attacking some other figure or institution. Because theirs is a pathology, not a passion
When Iain Duncan Smith lost the VONC he remained Leader of the Opposition until his replacement, Howard, was chosen.
If Boris loses tonight, as he should, then he can and probably should remain in office until he is able to advise the Queen on who should replace him and that would take him past Brown and Wellington, and possibly Chamberlain too, but not May.
If he flounces immediately that would be going against precedent and shirking his responsibilities. I wouldn't put it past him.
When I heard that it made me existentially sad, partly because it is sad for them, but also because it made me feel about 128 years old
I'm not for a minute suggesting that there is such as a species as the Intelligent Brexiteer on the Tory benches, but you never know.
It would be very on brand for them to then junk him unceremoniously once they felt he was no longer needed.
I dont expect it, but it has logic.
SO says so
Reality the electorate detested him so much an extra 4 million voted for his party than at the previous GE
Well there will be an undoubted honeymoon for whoever takes over, although I will suggest, that while Partygate has done for Johnson, unless they get a grip, the economy will do for the Conservatives. You saw how quickly Sunak's reputation was flushed down the toilet. It may all be circumstances out of their control, but those are the rules of incumbency, the rough with the smooth.
The fact that his wife, Kate Bingham, is the author of Boris's main domestic success, makes it more delicious.
Read the first paragraph or two.
Now is the perfect time for a VoNC it seems to me. Ukraine can't be used as an excuse anymore (that war is going to run and run I'm afraid) and the two By-Elections are only going to deliver bad news if Johnson stays.
The Jubilee is over, half term over and people back to work. Time for a clear out before the summer recess!
But its done now. That's not a reason to keep him.
If a team fighting against relegation sacks the Manager and brings in a specialist Manager that knows how to win relegation scraps manages to avoid relegation, then that's job done - but if you then want to go on to do well in the League you might look to move on from that Manager and find a new one afterwards.
The Sex Pistols are now part of the establishment.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/04/should-have-stayed-single-market-rejoining-now-would-madness/
With Boris gone it will be easier to have that much-delayed debate as to what Brexit should do, and what it can’t do. Tho whether the Tories are capable of that debate is a different matter
And I'm only correcting it because the irony that over the 50 years the Pistols have gone from being banned on the BBC / ITV to a corporate fairy tale.
Whoever replaces Boris is Prime Minister. No way will every contender step aside from that.