Dr John Campbell thinks the government is being heavily influenced by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine model that was based on omicron being as severe as delta. Does anyone now believe that?
What's the point in an 8pm closure for cinemas? Pubs will just not bother opening
Siri, give me a list of things that don't really help stop the virus but also don't really help the affected businesses.
Hilariously half-assed, either lock it down or don't.
All the politicians have got an eye on the inquiries and the inevitable question "and what, Prime Mister/President/Chancellor did you do when you were first told about how devastating Omicron would be?"
What's the point in an 8pm closure for cinemas? Pubs will just not bother opening
Their boffins wanted a 5pm close time. An absolute killer for pubs and restaurants, and 8pm is not much better (and seems pointless).
Not only that, their curfew is set to last until January 30th!
"Also agreed at Cabinet: * 8pm curfew for pubs, rests and indoor venues including cinemas and theatres * Until Jan 30 but kept under review * Exception for weddings - midnight and 100 people * Sport - spectators limited to 5,000 people or 50% @rtenews"
Ireland has already experienced one of the longest most severe lockdowns in the world. And now this. 6 weeks of an Irish winter and no pubs or restaurants in the evening. Many will close for the duration entirely - an 8pm curfew means you have to start kicking people out at 7-7.30. Utterly miserable
Lockdowns breed lockdowns - the more you do, the less you remember how shit it is.
The only phrase of note on that is “No data on severe disease” in the immunity escape row. Which we all here know is Billy Bullshit. Relax. It will be fine.
Well we know that not to be the case now with three dose immunity providing between a 93% and 95% reduction in severe symptoms.
They're gonna lock us down, tho
FUCK
That may be the plan, but the virus has not been spreading as fast as projected in the last two days, and the numbers in hospital with COVID are not rising much at the moment. Case numbers could level off, and if so how will the scientists and modellers explain this after all the frightening forecasts of the last week? By the New Year things could look different.
What's the point in an 8pm closure for cinemas? Pubs will just not bother opening
Their boffins wanted a 5pm close time. An absolute killer for pubs and restaurants, and 8pm is not much better (and seems pointless).
Why would pubs and restaurants even bother opening if they have to close at 5pm, as you say 8pm is rubbish as well.
I think the whole of Europe should stop fannying about with restrictions and get boosting.
They are boosting. Could be quicker, of course, but they're moving at quite a rate now:
Germany is at the same level the UK was at on November 30, so they're about two and a half weeks behind. Of course, they should have started earlier, but at least they're moving now.
What's the point in an 8pm closure for cinemas? Pubs will just not bother opening
Their boffins wanted a 5pm close time. An absolute killer for pubs and restaurants, and 8pm is not much better (and seems pointless).
Not only that, their curfew is set to last until January 30th!
"Also agreed at Cabinet: * 8pm curfew for pubs, rests and indoor venues including cinemas and theatres * Until Jan 30 but kept under review * Exception for weddings - midnight and 100 people * Sport - spectators limited to 5,000 people or 50% @rtenews"
Ireland has already experienced one of the longest most severe lockdowns in the world. And now this. 6 weeks of an Irish winter and no pubs or restaurants in the evening. Many will close for the duration entirely - an 8pm curfew means you have to start kicking people out at 7-7.30. Utterly miserable
Lockdowns breed lockdowns - the more you do, the less you remember how shit it is.
Once a nation is on the lockdown path they will keep ratcheting up until something works. Look at the Netherlands, in a lockdown, cases rising again and now talk of further extensions and measures.
However it's happened here the unelected scientists have had their power taken off them, across Europe they still churn out the same garbage as they do here.
What's the point in an 8pm closure for cinemas? Pubs will just not bother opening
Their boffins wanted a 5pm close time. An absolute killer for pubs and restaurants, and 8pm is not much better (and seems pointless).
Why would pubs and restaurants even bother opening if they have to close at 5pm, as you say 8pm is rubbish as well.
I think the whole of Europe should stop fannying about with restrictions and get boosting.
To be fair the Irish are trying hard to do the boosters as fast as possible, and they already have particularly good two-dose takeup on the over 60s (better than ours). They're a bit behind us on boosters, but doing better than most European countries.
The latest restrictions do seem half-baked. If they are worried about the spread of Omicron in the short term, they should lock down properly until Xmas, to buy themselves some time to get the boosters done. I doubt if pubs and restaurants can operate profitably with those restrictions.
So with Omicron Vs Delta 60 days after booster: 90 -> 61% efficacy against mild -> 4x as many people will get it
98.7% -> 92.8% efficacy against severe disease -> 5.5x as many people will end up in hospital
So, if everyone were 60 day boosted and case rates increased 10x with Omicron, hospitalisation rates would be expected to increase about 13.5x (although that is walking in through the door not occupying a bed).
That's situation in a static boosted population.
How are they 'calculating' the efficiency ageist Omicron 90 days after infection when Omicron was first identified 25 days ago?
These must be projections or estimates? and they may tern out to be accurate but but surly there should be a 'health warning with them'?
What's the point in an 8pm closure for cinemas? Pubs will just not bother opening
Siri, give me a list of things that don't really help stop the virus but also don't really help the affected businesses.
Hilariously half-assed, either lock it down or don't.
All the politicians have got an eye on the inquiries and the inevitable question "and what, Prime Mister/President/Chancellor did you do when you were first told about how devastating Omicron would be?"
Assuming big Omi leaves any of us alive.
The problem is that people have treated Covid for two years like a league sport where all that matters is minimising cases, hospitalisations and deaths - instead of minimising restrictions and economic damage.
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
"Johnson really is in cloud cuckoo land. Until he recognises that it is his sleaze and lying that is the real message of this defeat then there is no hope for this party"
"Is Brexit sustainable? It was voted in by the elderly years ago. There is no economic good news from it. Nothing for Brits to look forward to. More unnecessary pain."
"News about Downing Street Christmas Parties in Lockdown London, the video of Allegra Stratton laughing about it, Parties in Lockdown at Conservative Central HQ and Boris Johnson, Wallpaper and the Conservative donor and the barbecue Party in May 2020 - all this filled the masses with rage at the Government and at Boris Johnson in particular."
"As a Conservative voter the message I wish to leave with the Parliamentary Party is that you and Johnson between you have lost the North Shropshire bye election. You have done as you usually managed to do and that is to indulge your own preferences over the best interests of the country."
"The government needs to manage the country competently and stop being so sleazy and lying in the process. There seems only one cure for that."
"I would commend the Sam Coates Sky TV journalist interview today with Boris. As a Boris supporter his responses were dire. NOT what was needed right now. He doesn’t appear to * get it* !"
"The shine seems to be coming off Brexit here in North Shropshire, or at least it is much less of a tribal issue. "
"Boris Johnson's personal qualities make him unfit to hold any responsible job whatsoever."
"Unless there is major change the Party won't win the next GE. The shambles Johnston has made of Covid (first round of Vaccines excepted) will not count by then but high taxes, big state, high inflation and loss of civil liberties etc will."
"My local drinking group is fairly straightforward - they will tolerate a lot but hate with a passion being lied to. And that's the PM's modus operandi: lie, cheat and deceive when he was been found out about the parties last Christmas. Plus they greatly dislike the whiff of double-standards and downright corruption associated with attempting to get Paterson off the hook when he was clearly bang to rights."
"Conservatives in places like North Shropshire voted for Brexit because they believed Boris's promises that they would benefit. However, this largely rural constituency- especially its farmers - now realise they were lied to."
"Time for Bojo to go. Not only has he become a political joke he is in danger of single-handedly pushing the Conservative Party into oblivion."
"I'm pleased we lost, it may get rid of Johnson"
"This all comes back to Brexit. The way in which this was handled means that the party has lost the support of a substantial block of its traditional voters."
"This is clearly a protest vote against Johnson and his bunch of incompetents."
Err, why did they all vote for him then? I struggle to believe people can be politically aware enough to join conhome but not have known who Boris really was in 2019.
The truth is they did not mind the corruption or lies when they thought he was on their side. If he can re-frame it so he is on their side again, he will be fine.
Because all politics is relative. In 2019 you voted for a government led by Boris or one led by Jezza.
And in 2019 no other way was available (except Labour unicorns) out of the Brexit mire.
Nah, Con Home is where Boris fever took hold and brought down the existing Tory government. They choose Boris over Cameron, May, Javid, Gove, Stewart and Hunt, not just over Corbyn.
Thank God that Mark Drakeford is bringing back the ‘one way system’ in Welsh shops and supermarkets
That’s surely a gamechanger. No way OMICRON - which is 70 times quicker at spreading than Delta - will be able to get past that mighty wall of Welsh logic. Ok yes, 1 infected person in a room with 100 people can infect half of them in about 6 minutes BUT NOT IF THEY ARE WALKING SLOWLY, STARING DOWN AT ARROWS ON A FLOOR, BUMPING INTO EACH OTHER
There must come a time when Drakeford - THE DRAKE - will rightly be summoned to head a government of national unity and hand-washing protocols
Oven gloves sales banned again...
I don't get why anyone is bringing back the rules that were devised for Wuhan coronavirus when people were mainly concerned about droplets spreading it. Surely at the very least such rules need to be examined again?
Why is there such EXTREME RESISTANCE by @WHO , @CDCGov and IPC(*) to clearly state that COVID-19 is a dominantly AIRBORNE disease?
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
The Buffalo one is rubbish. You invariably have to explain the verb form of the word to people. Nobody here uses that word.
Of course it's rubbish. The important thing is that it is grammatically correct and makes a coherent assertion
English is a brilliantly mad language
I just wish there was something using a more commonplace word. But we're always hampered having to use the plural form to get the s-less verb, or vice versa.
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
So with Omicron Vs Delta 60 days after booster: 90 -> 61% efficacy against mild -> 4x as many people will get it
98.7% -> 92.8% efficacy against severe disease -> 5.5x as many people will end up in hospital
So, if everyone were 60 day boosted and case rates increased 10x with Omicron, hospitalisation rates would be expected to increase about 13.5x (although that is walking in through the door not occupying a bed).
That's situation in a static boosted population.
How are they 'calculating' the efficiency ageist Omicron 90 days after infection when Omicron was first identified 25 days ago?
These must be projections or estimates? and they may tern out to be accurate but but surly there should be a 'health warning with them'?
It's 90 days after booster jab, not after infection. But I do agree that it seems odd that they think they already have enough data to produce those figures.
So with Omicron Vs Delta 60 days after booster: 90 -> 61% efficacy against mild -> 4x as many people will get it
98.7% -> 92.8% efficacy against severe disease -> 5.5x as many people will end up in hospital
So, if everyone were 60 day boosted and case rates increased 10x with Omicron, hospitalisation rates would be expected to increase about 13.5x (although that is walking in through the door not occupying a bed).
That's situation in a static boosted population.
How are they 'calculating' the efficiency ageist Omicron 90 days after infection when Omicron was first identified 25 days ago?
These must be projections or estimates? and they may tern out to be accurate but but surly there should be a 'health warning with them'?
What's the point in an 8pm closure for cinemas? Pubs will just not bother opening
Siri, give me a list of things that don't really help stop the virus but also don't really help the affected businesses.
Hilariously half-assed, either lock it down or don't.
All the politicians have got an eye on the inquiries and the inevitable question "and what, Prime Mister/President/Chancellor did you do when you were first told about how devastating Omicron would be?"
Assuming big Omi leaves any of us alive.
The problem is that people have treated Covid for two years like a league sport where all that matters is minimising cases, hospitalisations and deaths - instead of minimising restrictions and economic damage.
Yes, it's the international dick waving contest on death statistics. It's extremely tiresome, the same as all the "plague island" stuff from the global liberal class, it's ultimately self defeating because we can't have an economy if we're all locked up in our houses all day to protect healthcare services.
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
I don't understand, doesn't she have tax raising powers?
Sturgeon does - she put up the higher rate and raised less revenue - also borrowing powers - not sure Drakeford has as may financial levers. The only time either appear interested in business is when its a stick to beat Westminster with.
The Buffalo one is rubbish. You invariably have to explain the verb form of the word to people. Nobody here uses that word.
Of course it's rubbish. The important thing is that it is grammatically correct and makes a coherent assertion
English is a brilliantly mad language
I just wish there was something using a more commonplace word. But we're always hampered having to use the plural form to get the s-less verb, or vice versa.
"Johnson really is in cloud cuckoo land. Until he recognises that it is his sleaze and lying that is the real message of this defeat then there is no hope for this party"
"Is Brexit sustainable? It was voted in by the elderly years ago. There is no economic good news from it. Nothing for Brits to look forward to. More unnecessary pain."
"News about Downing Street Christmas Parties in Lockdown London, the video of Allegra Stratton laughing about it, Parties in Lockdown at Conservative Central HQ and Boris Johnson, Wallpaper and the Conservative donor and the barbecue Party in May 2020 - all this filled the masses with rage at the Government and at Boris Johnson in particular."
"As a Conservative voter the message I wish to leave with the Parliamentary Party is that you and Johnson between you have lost the North Shropshire bye election. You have done as you usually managed to do and that is to indulge your own preferences over the best interests of the country."
"The government needs to manage the country competently and stop being so sleazy and lying in the process. There seems only one cure for that."
"I would commend the Sam Coates Sky TV journalist interview today with Boris. As a Boris supporter his responses were dire. NOT what was needed right now. He doesn’t appear to * get it* !"
"The shine seems to be coming off Brexit here in North Shropshire, or at least it is much less of a tribal issue. "
"Boris Johnson's personal qualities make him unfit to hold any responsible job whatsoever."
"Unless there is major change the Party won't win the next GE. The shambles Johnston has made of Covid (first round of Vaccines excepted) will not count by then but high taxes, big state, high inflation and loss of civil liberties etc will."
"My local drinking group is fairly straightforward - they will tolerate a lot but hate with a passion being lied to. And that's the PM's modus operandi: lie, cheat and deceive when he was been found out about the parties last Christmas. Plus they greatly dislike the whiff of double-standards and downright corruption associated with attempting to get Paterson off the hook when he was clearly bang to rights."
"Conservatives in places like North Shropshire voted for Brexit because they believed Boris's promises that they would benefit. However, this largely rural constituency- especially its farmers - now realise they were lied to."
"Time for Bojo to go. Not only has he become a political joke he is in danger of single-handedly pushing the Conservative Party into oblivion."
"I'm pleased we lost, it may get rid of Johnson"
"This all comes back to Brexit. The way in which this was handled means that the party has lost the support of a substantial block of its traditional voters."
"This is clearly a protest vote against Johnson and his bunch of incompetents."
Err, why did they all vote for him then? I struggle to believe people can be politically aware enough to join conhome but not have known who Boris really was in 2019.
The truth is they did not mind the corruption or lies when they thought he was on their side. If he can re-frame it so he is on their side again, he will be fine.
Because all politics is relative. In 2019 you voted for a government led by Boris or one led by Jezza.
And in 2019 no other way was available (except Labour unicorns) out of the Brexit mire.
Nah, Con Home is where Boris fever took hold and brought down the existing Tory government. They choose Boris over Cameron, May, Javid, Gove, Stewart and Hunt, not just over Corbyn.
Quite right too, he was by far the best candidate at the time. He got the country out of the Brexit morass and saw off Corbyn with an 80 seat majority. Mission accomplished!
The problem is that voters don't (and shouldn't) do gratitude. That's done now, he's served his purpose, the question is who's best for the future and right now it seems hard to think that Boris is the answer.
The Buffalo one is rubbish. You invariably have to explain the verb form of the word to people. Nobody here uses that word.
Of course it's rubbish. The important thing is that it is grammatically correct and makes a coherent assertion
English is a brilliantly mad language
I just wish there was something using a more commonplace word. But we're always hampered having to use the plural form to get the s-less verb, or vice versa.
God that's horrible. Quite a depressing day, today
That Imperial study on vaccine efficacy was very welcome, a 93-95% reduction in severe symptoms is absolutely brilliant.
Yes. Much needed
I have a horrible sense of inevitability about lockdown 4. Paradoxically, the total weakness of Boris Johnson might just be the thing that stops it happening. The rebellion over Plan B was huge, and now the PM is even more imperilled
Mail: Flustered Boris Johnson desperately complained that voters and the media have been focusing on sleaze and 'Partygate' rather than Omicron today as he faces Tory meltdown over the staggering by-election defeat.
The astonishing result immediately fuelled a seething uprising against Mr Johnson, who suffered one of the biggest Commons rebellions ever over Covid measures this week, and has been battling allegations of sleaze and lockdown-busting parties in Downing Street.
Revealing that he has already sent a letter of no confidence to the Tory 1922 committee chairman, veteran MP Roger Gale said the defeat was a 'referendum on the PM's performance' and he is at 'last orders time'. A normally loyal northern MP warned that Mr Johnson is 'finished' and it is 'just a matter of time' before he goes.
Election guru Professor John Curtice said he rated the result as 8.5 out of 10 on a scale of political 'earthquakes'.
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
"Johnson really is in cloud cuckoo land. Until he recognises that it is his sleaze and lying that is the real message of this defeat then there is no hope for this party"
"Is Brexit sustainable? It was voted in by the elderly years ago. There is no economic good news from it. Nothing for Brits to look forward to. More unnecessary pain."
"News about Downing Street Christmas Parties in Lockdown London, the video of Allegra Stratton laughing about it, Parties in Lockdown at Conservative Central HQ and Boris Johnson, Wallpaper and the Conservative donor and the barbecue Party in May 2020 - all this filled the masses with rage at the Government and at Boris Johnson in particular."
"As a Conservative voter the message I wish to leave with the Parliamentary Party is that you and Johnson between you have lost the North Shropshire bye election. You have done as you usually managed to do and that is to indulge your own preferences over the best interests of the country."
"The government needs to manage the country competently and stop being so sleazy and lying in the process. There seems only one cure for that."
"I would commend the Sam Coates Sky TV journalist interview today with Boris. As a Boris supporter his responses were dire. NOT what was needed right now. He doesn’t appear to * get it* !"
"The shine seems to be coming off Brexit here in North Shropshire, or at least it is much less of a tribal issue. "
"Boris Johnson's personal qualities make him unfit to hold any responsible job whatsoever."
"Unless there is major change the Party won't win the next GE. The shambles Johnston has made of Covid (first round of Vaccines excepted) will not count by then but high taxes, big state, high inflation and loss of civil liberties etc will."
"My local drinking group is fairly straightforward - they will tolerate a lot but hate with a passion being lied to. And that's the PM's modus operandi: lie, cheat and deceive when he was been found out about the parties last Christmas. Plus they greatly dislike the whiff of double-standards and downright corruption associated with attempting to get Paterson off the hook when he was clearly bang to rights."
"Conservatives in places like North Shropshire voted for Brexit because they believed Boris's promises that they would benefit. However, this largely rural constituency- especially its farmers - now realise they were lied to."
"Time for Bojo to go. Not only has he become a political joke he is in danger of single-handedly pushing the Conservative Party into oblivion."
"I'm pleased we lost, it may get rid of Johnson"
"This all comes back to Brexit. The way in which this was handled means that the party has lost the support of a substantial block of its traditional voters."
"This is clearly a protest vote against Johnson and his bunch of incompetents."
Err, why did they all vote for him then? I struggle to believe people can be politically aware enough to join conhome but not have known who Boris really was in 2019.
The truth is they did not mind the corruption or lies when they thought he was on their side. If he can re-frame it so he is on their side again, he will be fine.
Because all politics is relative. In 2019 you voted for a government led by Boris or one led by Jezza.
And in 2019 no other way was available (except Labour unicorns) out of the Brexit mire.
Nah, Con Home is where Boris fever took hold and brought down the existing Tory government. They choose Boris over Cameron, May, Javid, Gove, Stewart and Hunt, not just over Corbyn.
Quite right too, he was by far the best candidate at the time. He got the country out of the Brexit morass and saw off Corbyn with an 80 seat majority. Mission accomplished!
The problem is that voters don't (and shouldn't) do gratitude. That's done now, he's served his purpose, the question is who's best for the future and right now it seems hard to think that Boris is the answer.
Out of the morass? Bit early to claim that. UK split legally and economically as well as geographically, inward customs still not implemented, and so on. But it's Friday evening and dinner calls. Night all.
EXCL: Simon Case and team had a Christmas party on Dec 17 2020 at 5.30 pm in room 103 of the Cabinet Office. The digital calendar invites sent in advance called it "Christmas party!"
Raises serious questions about his investigation into No 10 parties
Hmm, PB's a politics-mad community, and what are we doing the day after the by-election? Debating Covid. Out there, I think it'll be almost completely forgotten by January.
Not by Conservative MPs, which is what counts. It's in their hands now.
Thank God that Mark Drakeford is bringing back the ‘one way system’ in Welsh shops and supermarkets
That’s surely a gamechanger. No way OMICRON - which is 70 times quicker at spreading than Delta - will be able to get past that mighty wall of Welsh logic. Ok yes, 1 infected person in a room with 100 people can infect half of them in about 6 minutes BUT NOT IF THEY ARE WALKING SLOWLY, STARING DOWN AT ARROWS ON A FLOOR, BUMPING INTO EACH OTHER
There must come a time when Drakeford - THE DRAKE - will rightly be summoned to head a government of national unity and hand-washing protocols
Oven gloves sales banned again...
I don't get why anyone is bringing back the rules that were devised for Wuhan coronavirus when people were mainly concerned about droplets spreading it. Surely at the very least such rules need to be examined again?
Why is there such EXTREME RESISTANCE by @WHO , @CDCGov and IPC(*) to clearly state that COVID-19 is a dominantly AIRBORNE disease?
Thank you. That's great, but I thought it was common knowledge now, I hadn't realised how entrenched the droplet spread belief still is. It seems absolutely crazy when you consider that there are numerous documented cases that would be impossible to explain by anything other than airborne transmission.
So we are still using mitigation measures where there is a fair chance that we will one day have a consensus that they were a total waste of effort.
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
God that's horrible. Quite a depressing day, today
That Imperial study on vaccine efficacy was very welcome, a 93-95% reduction in severe symptoms is absolutely brilliant.
Yes. Much needed
I have a horrible sense of inevitability about lockdown 4. Paradoxically, the total weakness of Boris Johnson might just be the thing that stops it happening. The rebellion over Plan B was huge, and now the PM is even more imperilled
VIVE LA RESISTANCE
Indeed, by my calculation we may end up with far, far few hospitalisations per day than is currently predicted despite how fast Omicron spreads. We may get to the end of the year, the original calcs on severe disease were made at ~60% for these models reality at 93-95% is way better than that. I mean 5k deaths per day is just laughable.
What's the point in an 8pm closure for cinemas? Pubs will just not bother opening
Their boffins wanted a 5pm close time. An absolute killer for pubs and restaurants, and 8pm is not much better (and seems pointless).
Why would pubs and restaurants even bother opening if they have to close at 5pm, as you say 8pm is rubbish as well.
I think the whole of Europe should stop fannying about with restrictions and get boosting.
To be fair the Irish are trying hard to do the boosters as fast as possible, and they already have particularly good two-dose takeup on the over 60s (better than ours). They're a bit behind us on boosters, but doing better than most European countries.
The latest restrictions do seem half-baked. If they are worried about the spread of Omicron in the short term, they should lock down properly until Xmas, to buy themselves some time to get the boosters done. I doubt if pubs and restaurants can operate profitably with those restrictions.
The Buffalo one is rubbish. You invariably have to explain the verb form of the word to people. Nobody here uses that word.
Of course it's rubbish. The important thing is that it is grammatically correct and makes a coherent assertion
English is a brilliantly mad language
I just wish there was something using a more commonplace word. But we're always hampered having to use the plural form to get the s-less verb, or vice versa.
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
Usual jingo Colonial mumbo jumbo. We more than pay our way, Westminster control hte purse an dwhat an arse they are making of it. Pretending that Scotland borrows all the money is pathetic and only a senile halfwitted cretin or someone with the intelligence of a 3 year old would try to pretend it was. GIRUY
"Council leaders said they were preparing for lockdowns in the new year unless the booster jabs rollout can be escalated in areas with some of the lowest vaccine uptake in the country.
"Hammersmith and Fulham, where cases have risen by 45 per cent in a week, is recruiting residents to administer booster vaccines and volunteers to deliver food if there is another lockdown.
Council leader Stephen Cowen told the Standard: "We are preparing for a lockdown and are back on civic emergency guidelines.”"
Great. Volunteers to DELIVER FOOD. CIVIC EMERGENCY GUIDELINES
"Johnson really is in cloud cuckoo land. Until he recognises that it is his sleaze and lying that is the real message of this defeat then there is no hope for this party"
"Is Brexit sustainable? It was voted in by the elderly years ago. There is no economic good news from it. Nothing for Brits to look forward to. More unnecessary pain."
"News about Downing Street Christmas Parties in Lockdown London, the video of Allegra Stratton laughing about it, Parties in Lockdown at Conservative Central HQ and Boris Johnson, Wallpaper and the Conservative donor and the barbecue Party in May 2020 - all this filled the masses with rage at the Government and at Boris Johnson in particular."
"As a Conservative voter the message I wish to leave with the Parliamentary Party is that you and Johnson between you have lost the North Shropshire bye election. You have done as you usually managed to do and that is to indulge your own preferences over the best interests of the country."
"The government needs to manage the country competently and stop being so sleazy and lying in the process. There seems only one cure for that."
"I would commend the Sam Coates Sky TV journalist interview today with Boris. As a Boris supporter his responses were dire. NOT what was needed right now. He doesn’t appear to * get it* !"
"The shine seems to be coming off Brexit here in North Shropshire, or at least it is much less of a tribal issue. "
"Boris Johnson's personal qualities make him unfit to hold any responsible job whatsoever."
"Unless there is major change the Party won't win the next GE. The shambles Johnston has made of Covid (first round of Vaccines excepted) will not count by then but high taxes, big state, high inflation and loss of civil liberties etc will."
"My local drinking group is fairly straightforward - they will tolerate a lot but hate with a passion being lied to. And that's the PM's modus operandi: lie, cheat and deceive when he was been found out about the parties last Christmas. Plus they greatly dislike the whiff of double-standards and downright corruption associated with attempting to get Paterson off the hook when he was clearly bang to rights."
"Conservatives in places like North Shropshire voted for Brexit because they believed Boris's promises that they would benefit. However, this largely rural constituency- especially its farmers - now realise they were lied to."
"Time for Bojo to go. Not only has he become a political joke he is in danger of single-handedly pushing the Conservative Party into oblivion."
"I'm pleased we lost, it may get rid of Johnson"
"This all comes back to Brexit. The way in which this was handled means that the party has lost the support of a substantial block of its traditional voters."
"This is clearly a protest vote against Johnson and his bunch of incompetents."
Err, why did they all vote for him then? I struggle to believe people can be politically aware enough to join conhome but not have known who Boris really was in 2019.
The truth is they did not mind the corruption or lies when they thought he was on their side. If he can re-frame it so he is on their side again, he will be fine.
Because all politics is relative. In 2019 you voted for a government led by Boris or one led by Jezza.
And in 2019 no other way was available (except Labour unicorns) out of the Brexit mire.
Nah, Con Home is where Boris fever took hold and brought down the existing Tory government. They choose Boris over Cameron, May, Javid, Gove, Stewart and Hunt, not just over Corbyn.
Quite right too, he was by far the best candidate at the time. He got the country out of the Brexit morass and saw off Corbyn with an 80 seat majority. Mission accomplished!
The problem is that voters don't (and shouldn't) do gratitude. That's done now, he's served his purpose, the question is who's best for the future and right now it seems hard to think that Boris is the answer.
Out of the morass? Bit early to claim that. UK split legally and economically as well as geographically, inward customs still not implemented, and so on. But it's Friday evening and dinner calls. Night all.
Yes we are out of the morass. We were in a mess with an agreement with a backstop that Parliament quite rightly wouldn't back, but nor would they back anything else. Article 50 just kept being extended and there were no viable alternatives.
Boris had a solution for that, Hunt and May didn't. So the members made the right choice.
Yes there may be issues going forwards, but that's the future's problem. That's not the same as the problems of the past. As I said, Boris dealt with the problems we had then, that's not the same thing as saying he'll be best for the problems of the future.
It doesn't seem to matter to many people who have a grip on our politics and media. I will enjoy the egg on face humiliation of some of them if we get through this largely unscathed.
I wonder if politicians do believe it will be that serious or if they're largely worried about being blamed for avoidable deaths because they were too slow with boosters?
Have we discussed the possibility that the result in North Salop was entirely down to Owen Paterson's personal vote not transferring over?
Perhaps the voters of North Salop thought Boris Johnson and the wider Tory party treated O-Patz very shabbily ?
In all fairness to the Conservative Party, had Owen Paterson bent over and taken his spanking like a Conservative MP, quite a number of Johnson's travails would never have been noted, and Paterson would still be an MP.
No sympathy for the conceited old fool from me.
His spanking would have triggered a recall petition. There have been 3 recall petitions to date. The threshold required was reached easily in two of them. The third, Ian Paisley Jnr. in North Antrim, was only 0.6% off. It seems likely that Paterson would have lost a recall petition, particularly with Partygate motivating people. So, Paterson would still be an MP, but he'd be facing a by-election soon.
Which he would quite likely have won. My point is Paterson started the ball rolling. If he had been contrite he might have been fine.
My takeaways from today. BBC morning radio bulletins consigned B. Shropshire to an also ran story which was surprisingly. From the later bulletins, Sunak has sold himself as the knight to the rescue amidst the chaos (cleverly diverting from having taken his holidays early-crafty!). Johnson on the other hand is more or less grumbling that he would have gotten away with it were it not for those pesky journalists and opposition politicians, he clearly needs to clip their wings!
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
And how about the £30million on external affairs.....
Better than billions in Tory crooks pockets, how about the circa 200 billion minimum that went to Tories pals, they even had direct lines for their day old companies to get huge contracts. You really are nasty piece of work. Obviously ran out of Scotland and cannot get over it.
God that's horrible. Quite a depressing day, today
That Imperial study on vaccine efficacy was very welcome, a 93-95% reduction in severe symptoms is absolutely brilliant.
Yes. Much needed
I have a horrible sense of inevitability about lockdown 4. Paradoxically, the total weakness of Boris Johnson might just be the thing that stops it happening. The rebellion over Plan B was huge, and now the PM is even more imperilled
VIVE LA RESISTANCE
Indeed, by my calculation we may end up with far, far few hospitalisations per day than is currently predicted despite how fast Omicron spreads. We may get to the end of the year, the original calcs on severe disease were made at ~60% for these models reality at 93-95% is way better than that. I mean 5k deaths per day is just laughable.
Ferguson is now predicting 5,000 deaths a day within weeks.
God that's horrible. Quite a depressing day, today
That Imperial study on vaccine efficacy was very welcome, a 93-95% reduction in severe symptoms is absolutely brilliant.
Yes. Much needed
I have a horrible sense of inevitability about lockdown 4. Paradoxically, the total weakness of Boris Johnson might just be the thing that stops it happening. The rebellion over Plan B was huge, and now the PM is even more imperilled
VIVE LA RESISTANCE
Indeed, by my calculation we may end up with far, far few hospitalisations per day than is currently predicted despite how fast Omicron spreads. We may get to the end of the year, the original calcs on severe disease were made at ~60% for these models reality at 93-95% is way better than that. I mean 5k deaths per day is just laughable.
It'd be awful if we hit 5k hospitalisations a day - the idea we'll get there on deaths is just nonsense on stick.
If their serious modelling was saying that, Mitchie and some other muppets would be resigning from SAGE calling Boris a mass murderer.
The landlord of the Dog and Duck commissioned a new sign. When it arrived he berated the sign maker saying the gaps were too big between the words Dog and and and and and Duck.
God that's horrible. Quite a depressing day, today
That Imperial study on vaccine efficacy was very welcome, a 93-95% reduction in severe symptoms is absolutely brilliant.
Yes. Much needed
I have a horrible sense of inevitability about lockdown 4. Paradoxically, the total weakness of Boris Johnson might just be the thing that stops it happening. The rebellion over Plan B was huge, and now the PM is even more imperilled
VIVE LA RESISTANCE
Indeed, by my calculation we may end up with far, far few hospitalisations per day than is currently predicted despite how fast Omicron spreads. We may get to the end of the year, the original calcs on severe disease were made at ~60% for these models reality at 93-95% is way better than that. I mean 5k deaths per day is just laughable.
Ferguson is now predicting 5,000 deaths a day within weeks.
So I suspect everything will be absolutely fine.
Doesn't matter how often they are wildly out, next variant they will be back again...
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
"Johnson really is in cloud cuckoo land. Until he recognises that it is his sleaze and lying that is the real message of this defeat then there is no hope for this party"
"Is Brexit sustainable? It was voted in by the elderly years ago. There is no economic good news from it. Nothing for Brits to look forward to. More unnecessary pain."
"News about Downing Street Christmas Parties in Lockdown London, the video of Allegra Stratton laughing about it, Parties in Lockdown at Conservative Central HQ and Boris Johnson, Wallpaper and the Conservative donor and the barbecue Party in May 2020 - all this filled the masses with rage at the Government and at Boris Johnson in particular."
"As a Conservative voter the message I wish to leave with the Parliamentary Party is that you and Johnson between you have lost the North Shropshire bye election. You have done as you usually managed to do and that is to indulge your own preferences over the best interests of the country."
"The government needs to manage the country competently and stop being so sleazy and lying in the process. There seems only one cure for that."
"I would commend the Sam Coates Sky TV journalist interview today with Boris. As a Boris supporter his responses were dire. NOT what was needed right now. He doesn’t appear to * get it* !"
"The shine seems to be coming off Brexit here in North Shropshire, or at least it is much less of a tribal issue. "
"Boris Johnson's personal qualities make him unfit to hold any responsible job whatsoever."
"Unless there is major change the Party won't win the next GE. The shambles Johnston has made of Covid (first round of Vaccines excepted) will not count by then but high taxes, big state, high inflation and loss of civil liberties etc will."
"My local drinking group is fairly straightforward - they will tolerate a lot but hate with a passion being lied to. And that's the PM's modus operandi: lie, cheat and deceive when he was been found out about the parties last Christmas. Plus they greatly dislike the whiff of double-standards and downright corruption associated with attempting to get Paterson off the hook when he was clearly bang to rights."
"Conservatives in places like North Shropshire voted for Brexit because they believed Boris's promises that they would benefit. However, this largely rural constituency- especially its farmers - now realise they were lied to."
"Time for Bojo to go. Not only has he become a political joke he is in danger of single-handedly pushing the Conservative Party into oblivion."
"I'm pleased we lost, it may get rid of Johnson"
"This all comes back to Brexit. The way in which this was handled means that the party has lost the support of a substantial block of its traditional voters."
"This is clearly a protest vote against Johnson and his bunch of incompetents."
Err, why did they all vote for him then? I struggle to believe people can be politically aware enough to join conhome but not have known who Boris really was in 2019.
The truth is they did not mind the corruption or lies when they thought he was on their side. If he can re-frame it so he is on their side again, he will be fine.
Because all politics is relative. In 2019 you voted for a government led by Boris or one led by Jezza.
And in 2019 no other way was available (except Labour unicorns) out of the Brexit mire.
Nah, Con Home is where Boris fever took hold and brought down the existing Tory government. They choose Boris over Cameron, May, Javid, Gove, Stewart and Hunt, not just over Corbyn.
Quite right too, he was by far the best candidate at the time. He got the country out of the Brexit morass and saw off Corbyn with an 80 seat majority. Mission accomplished!
The problem is that voters don't (and shouldn't) do gratitude. That's done now, he's served his purpose, the question is who's best for the future and right now it seems hard to think that Boris is the answer.
Out of the morass? Bit early to claim that. UK split legally and economically as well as geographically, inward customs still not implemented, and so on. But it's Friday evening and dinner calls. Night all.
Yes we are out of the morass. We were in a mess with an agreement with a backstop that Parliament quite rightly wouldn't back, but nor would they back anything else. Article 50 just kept being extended and there were no viable alternatives.
Boris had a solution for that, Hunt and May didn't. So the members made the right choice.
Yes there may be issues going forwards, but that's the future's problem. That's not the same as the problems of the past. As I said, Boris dealt with the problems we had then, that's not the same thing as saying he'll be best for the problems of the future.
The landlord of the Dog and Duck commissioned a new sign. When it arrived he berated the sign maker saying the gaps were too big between the words Dog and and and and and Duck.
I won't have that signwriter put your post on a sign. The gaps between dog and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and duck will probably also be too big.
God that's horrible. Quite a depressing day, today
That Imperial study on vaccine efficacy was very welcome, a 93-95% reduction in severe symptoms is absolutely brilliant.
Yes. Much needed
I have a horrible sense of inevitability about lockdown 4. Paradoxically, the total weakness of Boris Johnson might just be the thing that stops it happening. The rebellion over Plan B was huge, and now the PM is even more imperilled
VIVE LA RESISTANCE
Indeed, by my calculation we may end up with far, far few hospitalisations per day than is currently predicted despite how fast Omicron spreads. We may get to the end of the year, the original calcs on severe disease were made at ~60% for these models reality at 93-95% is way better than that. I mean 5k deaths per day is just laughable.
Ferguson is now predicting 5,000 deaths a day within weeks.
So I suspect everything will be absolutely fine.
Except they really are gonna try and lock us down
"BREAKING: COBRA over the weekend will discuss whether new restrictions are needed"
I stand by my melancholy prediction. They know they are gonna lock down hard after Xmas, but they will do a lot to avoid anything much before then, because it is so unpopular. Expect a modest tightening, masks in pubs and restaurants, blah blah, then the "full fat fuck off and stay in your homes forever" a few days after Chrimbo
"Johnson really is in cloud cuckoo land. Until he recognises that it is his sleaze and lying that is the real message of this defeat then there is no hope for this party"
"Is Brexit sustainable? It was voted in by the elderly years ago. There is no economic good news from it. Nothing for Brits to look forward to. More unnecessary pain."
"News about Downing Street Christmas Parties in Lockdown London, the video of Allegra Stratton laughing about it, Parties in Lockdown at Conservative Central HQ and Boris Johnson, Wallpaper and the Conservative donor and the barbecue Party in May 2020 - all this filled the masses with rage at the Government and at Boris Johnson in particular."
"As a Conservative voter the message I wish to leave with the Parliamentary Party is that you and Johnson between you have lost the North Shropshire bye election. You have done as you usually managed to do and that is to indulge your own preferences over the best interests of the country."
"The government needs to manage the country competently and stop being so sleazy and lying in the process. There seems only one cure for that."
"I would commend the Sam Coates Sky TV journalist interview today with Boris. As a Boris supporter his responses were dire. NOT what was needed right now. He doesn’t appear to * get it* !"
"The shine seems to be coming off Brexit here in North Shropshire, or at least it is much less of a tribal issue. "
"Boris Johnson's personal qualities make him unfit to hold any responsible job whatsoever."
"Unless there is major change the Party won't win the next GE. The shambles Johnston has made of Covid (first round of Vaccines excepted) will not count by then but high taxes, big state, high inflation and loss of civil liberties etc will."
"My local drinking group is fairly straightforward - they will tolerate a lot but hate with a passion being lied to. And that's the PM's modus operandi: lie, cheat and deceive when he was been found out about the parties last Christmas. Plus they greatly dislike the whiff of double-standards and downright corruption associated with attempting to get Paterson off the hook when he was clearly bang to rights."
"Conservatives in places like North Shropshire voted for Brexit because they believed Boris's promises that they would benefit. However, this largely rural constituency- especially its farmers - now realise they were lied to."
"Time for Bojo to go. Not only has he become a political joke he is in danger of single-handedly pushing the Conservative Party into oblivion."
"I'm pleased we lost, it may get rid of Johnson"
"This all comes back to Brexit. The way in which this was handled means that the party has lost the support of a substantial block of its traditional voters."
"This is clearly a protest vote against Johnson and his bunch of incompetents."
Err, why did they all vote for him then? I struggle to believe people can be politically aware enough to join conhome but not have known who Boris really was in 2019.
The truth is they did not mind the corruption or lies when they thought he was on their side. If he can re-frame it so he is on their side again, he will be fine.
Because all politics is relative. In 2019 you voted for a government led by Boris or one led by Jezza.
And in 2019 no other way was available (except Labour unicorns) out of the Brexit mire.
Nah, Con Home is where Boris fever took hold and brought down the existing Tory government. They choose Boris over Cameron, May, Javid, Gove, Stewart and Hunt, not just over Corbyn.
Quite right too, he was by far the best candidate at the time. He got the country out of the Brexit morass and saw off Corbyn with an 80 seat majority. Mission accomplished!
The problem is that voters don't (and shouldn't) do gratitude. That's done now, he's served his purpose, the question is who's best for the future and right now it seems hard to think that Boris is the answer.
Out of the morass? Bit early to claim that. UK split legally and economically as well as geographically, inward customs still not implemented, and so on. But it's Friday evening and dinner calls. Night all.
Yes we are out of the morass. We were in a mess with an agreement with a backstop that Parliament quite rightly wouldn't back, but nor would they back anything else. Article 50 just kept being extended and there were no viable alternatives.
Boris had a solution for that, Hunt and May didn't. So the members made the right choice.
Yes there may be issues going forwards, but that's the future's problem. That's not the same as the problems of the past. As I said, Boris dealt with the problems we had then, that's not the same thing as saying he'll be best for the problems of the future.
La La La La La
Why don't you regale us all with the one about how the UK Treasury will be paying an independent Scotland's pensions?
God that's horrible. Quite a depressing day, today
That Imperial study on vaccine efficacy was very welcome, a 93-95% reduction in severe symptoms is absolutely brilliant.
Yes. Much needed
I have a horrible sense of inevitability about lockdown 4. Paradoxically, the total weakness of Boris Johnson might just be the thing that stops it happening. The rebellion over Plan B was huge, and now the PM is even more imperilled
VIVE LA RESISTANCE
Indeed, by my calculation we may end up with far, far few hospitalisations per day than is currently predicted despite how fast Omicron spreads. We may get to the end of the year, the original calcs on severe disease were made at ~60% for these models reality at 93-95% is way better than that. I mean 5k deaths per day is just laughable.
Ferguson is now predicting 5,000 deaths a day within weeks.
So I suspect everything will be absolutely fine.
Except they really are gonna try and lock us down
"BREAKING: COBRA over the weekend will discuss whether new restrictions are needed"
I stand by my melancholy prediction. They know they are gonna lock down hard after Xmas, but they will do a lot to avoid anything much before then, because it is so unpopular. Expect a modest tightening, masks in pubs and restaurants, blah blah, then the "full fat fuck off and stay in your homes forever" a few days after Chrimbo
What's the point?
If its that transmissible then everyone will have already had it by Christmas? So why bother doing anything afterwards, its going to be closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
God that's horrible. Quite a depressing day, today
That Imperial study on vaccine efficacy was very welcome, a 93-95% reduction in severe symptoms is absolutely brilliant.
Yes. Much needed
I have a horrible sense of inevitability about lockdown 4. Paradoxically, the total weakness of Boris Johnson might just be the thing that stops it happening. The rebellion over Plan B was huge, and now the PM is even more imperilled
VIVE LA RESISTANCE
Indeed, by my calculation we may end up with far, far few hospitalisations per day than is currently predicted despite how fast Omicron spreads. We may get to the end of the year, the original calcs on severe disease were made at ~60% for these models reality at 93-95% is way better than that. I mean 5k deaths per day is just laughable.
Ferguson is now predicting 5,000 deaths a day within weeks.
So I suspect everything will be absolutely fine.
It's the same nonsense as always except the numbers keep having to get bigger because people have stopped believing them. The calculation is that "well if we say 500 people will just shrug their shoulders because it's not much higher than what we had recently" so they make it 5000 and what they think is impossible to ignore. But it just makes them look stupid for suggesting it. At 5000 deaths we'd need for Omicron to attack something like 10m people per day in a largely vaccinated or immunised population. 1m infections with a 100% attack rate among the unvaccinated would result in ~10k deaths, vaccines plus prior infections bring that down to ~500 per day with the same attack rate, which means Omicron would have to be exposed to 10m people per day, every day. It's completely ridiculous.
"Johnson really is in cloud cuckoo land. Until he recognises that it is his sleaze and lying that is the real message of this defeat then there is no hope for this party"
"Is Brexit sustainable? It was voted in by the elderly years ago. There is no economic good news from it. Nothing for Brits to look forward to. More unnecessary pain."
"News about Downing Street Christmas Parties in Lockdown London, the video of Allegra Stratton laughing about it, Parties in Lockdown at Conservative Central HQ and Boris Johnson, Wallpaper and the Conservative donor and the barbecue Party in May 2020 - all this filled the masses with rage at the Government and at Boris Johnson in particular."
"As a Conservative voter the message I wish to leave with the Parliamentary Party is that you and Johnson between you have lost the North Shropshire bye election. You have done as you usually managed to do and that is to indulge your own preferences over the best interests of the country."
"The government needs to manage the country competently and stop being so sleazy and lying in the process. There seems only one cure for that."
"I would commend the Sam Coates Sky TV journalist interview today with Boris. As a Boris supporter his responses were dire. NOT what was needed right now. He doesn’t appear to * get it* !"
"The shine seems to be coming off Brexit here in North Shropshire, or at least it is much less of a tribal issue. "
"Boris Johnson's personal qualities make him unfit to hold any responsible job whatsoever."
"Unless there is major change the Party won't win the next GE. The shambles Johnston has made of Covid (first round of Vaccines excepted) will not count by then but high taxes, big state, high inflation and loss of civil liberties etc will."
"My local drinking group is fairly straightforward - they will tolerate a lot but hate with a passion being lied to. And that's the PM's modus operandi: lie, cheat and deceive when he was been found out about the parties last Christmas. Plus they greatly dislike the whiff of double-standards and downright corruption associated with attempting to get Paterson off the hook when he was clearly bang to rights."
"Conservatives in places like North Shropshire voted for Brexit because they believed Boris's promises that they would benefit. However, this largely rural constituency- especially its farmers - now realise they were lied to."
"Time for Bojo to go. Not only has he become a political joke he is in danger of single-handedly pushing the Conservative Party into oblivion."
"I'm pleased we lost, it may get rid of Johnson"
"This all comes back to Brexit. The way in which this was handled means that the party has lost the support of a substantial block of its traditional voters."
"This is clearly a protest vote against Johnson and his bunch of incompetents."
Err, why did they all vote for him then? I struggle to believe people can be politically aware enough to join conhome but not have known who Boris really was in 2019.
The truth is they did not mind the corruption or lies when they thought he was on their side. If he can re-frame it so he is on their side again, he will be fine.
Because all politics is relative. In 2019 you voted for a government led by Boris or one led by Jezza.
And in 2019 no other way was available (except Labour unicorns) out of the Brexit mire.
Nah, Con Home is where Boris fever took hold and brought down the existing Tory government. They choose Boris over Cameron, May, Javid, Gove, Stewart and Hunt, not just over Corbyn.
Quite right too, he was by far the best candidate at the time. He got the country out of the Brexit morass and saw off Corbyn with an 80 seat majority. Mission accomplished!
The problem is that voters don't (and shouldn't) do gratitude. That's done now, he's served his purpose, the question is who's best for the future and right now it seems hard to think that Boris is the answer.
Out of the morass? Bit early to claim that. UK split legally and economically as well as geographically, inward customs still not implemented, and so on. But it's Friday evening and dinner calls. Night all.
Yes we are out of the morass. We were in a mess with an agreement with a backstop that Parliament quite rightly wouldn't back, but nor would they back anything else. Article 50 just kept being extended and there were no viable alternatives.
Boris had a solution for that, Hunt and May didn't. So the members made the right choice.
Yes there may be issues going forwards, but that's the future's problem. That's not the same as the problems of the past. As I said, Boris dealt with the problems we had then, that's not the same thing as saying he'll be best for the problems of the future.
La La La La La
Why don't you regale us all with the one about how the UK Treasury will be paying an independent Scotland's pensions?
Away you cretin , losers always whine when found out , typical lying Tory. I said they would hav eto pay up as part of teh settlement and that would cover the pension payments Scots had made. Another snivelling little Tory jessie boy, GIRUY.
The Buffalo one is rubbish. You invariably have to explain the verb form of the word to people. Nobody here uses that word.
Of course it's rubbish. The important thing is that it is grammatically correct and makes a coherent assertion
English is a brilliantly mad language
I just wish there was something using a more commonplace word. But we're always hampered having to use the plural form to get the s-less verb, or vice versa.
"Johnson really is in cloud cuckoo land. Until he recognises that it is his sleaze and lying that is the real message of this defeat then there is no hope for this party"
"Is Brexit sustainable? It was voted in by the elderly years ago. There is no economic good news from it. Nothing for Brits to look forward to. More unnecessary pain."
"News about Downing Street Christmas Parties in Lockdown London, the video of Allegra Stratton laughing about it, Parties in Lockdown at Conservative Central HQ and Boris Johnson, Wallpaper and the Conservative donor and the barbecue Party in May 2020 - all this filled the masses with rage at the Government and at Boris Johnson in particular."
"As a Conservative voter the message I wish to leave with the Parliamentary Party is that you and Johnson between you have lost the North Shropshire bye election. You have done as you usually managed to do and that is to indulge your own preferences over the best interests of the country."
"The government needs to manage the country competently and stop being so sleazy and lying in the process. There seems only one cure for that."
"I would commend the Sam Coates Sky TV journalist interview today with Boris. As a Boris supporter his responses were dire. NOT what was needed right now. He doesn’t appear to * get it* !"
"The shine seems to be coming off Brexit here in North Shropshire, or at least it is much less of a tribal issue. "
"Boris Johnson's personal qualities make him unfit to hold any responsible job whatsoever."
"Unless there is major change the Party won't win the next GE. The shambles Johnston has made of Covid (first round of Vaccines excepted) will not count by then but high taxes, big state, high inflation and loss of civil liberties etc will."
"My local drinking group is fairly straightforward - they will tolerate a lot but hate with a passion being lied to. And that's the PM's modus operandi: lie, cheat and deceive when he was been found out about the parties last Christmas. Plus they greatly dislike the whiff of double-standards and downright corruption associated with attempting to get Paterson off the hook when he was clearly bang to rights."
"Conservatives in places like North Shropshire voted for Brexit because they believed Boris's promises that they would benefit. However, this largely rural constituency- especially its farmers - now realise they were lied to."
"Time for Bojo to go. Not only has he become a political joke he is in danger of single-handedly pushing the Conservative Party into oblivion."
"I'm pleased we lost, it may get rid of Johnson"
"This all comes back to Brexit. The way in which this was handled means that the party has lost the support of a substantial block of its traditional voters."
"This is clearly a protest vote against Johnson and his bunch of incompetents."
Err, why did they all vote for him then? I struggle to believe people can be politically aware enough to join conhome but not have known who Boris really was in 2019.
The truth is they did not mind the corruption or lies when they thought he was on their side. If he can re-frame it so he is on their side again, he will be fine.
Because all politics is relative. In 2019 you voted for a government led by Boris or one led by Jezza.
And in 2019 no other way was available (except Labour unicorns) out of the Brexit mire.
Nah, Con Home is where Boris fever took hold and brought down the existing Tory government. They choose Boris over Cameron, May, Javid, Gove, Stewart and Hunt, not just over Corbyn.
Quite right too, he was by far the best candidate at the time. He got the country out of the Brexit morass and saw off Corbyn with an 80 seat majority. Mission accomplished!
The problem is that voters don't (and shouldn't) do gratitude. That's done now, he's served his purpose, the question is who's best for the future and right now it seems hard to think that Boris is the answer.
Out of the morass? Bit early to claim that. UK split legally and economically as well as geographically, inward customs still not implemented, and so on. But it's Friday evening and dinner calls. Night all.
Yes we are out of the morass. We were in a mess with an agreement with a backstop that Parliament quite rightly wouldn't back, but nor would they back anything else. Article 50 just kept being extended and there were no viable alternatives.
Boris had a solution for that, Hunt and May didn't. So the members made the right choice.
Yes there may be issues going forwards, but that's the future's problem. That's not the same as the problems of the past. As I said, Boris dealt with the problems we had then, that's not the same thing as saying he'll be best for the problems of the future.
La La La La La
Why don't you regale us all with the one about how the UK Treasury will be paying an independent Scotland's pensions?
Away you cretin , losers always whine when found out , typical lying Tory. I said they would hav eto pay up as part of teh settlement and that would cover the pension payments Scots had made. Another snivelling little Tory jessie boy, GIRUY.
You haven't made any pension payments. Your generation never bothered saving anything for pensions, you instead accrued pension liabilities instead.
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
Usual jingo Colonial mumbo jumbo. We more than pay our way, Westminster control hte purse an dwhat an arse they are making of it. Pretending that Scotland borrows all the money is pathetic and only a senile halfwitted cretin or someone with the intelligence of a 3 year old would try to pretend it was. GIRUY
Off the cask strength turnip juice, for you. Back on the 40%.
Is that the same clown who has lost in 7 elections yet has stiffed taxpayers for millions. An extreme loser but knows how to crawl, Turdo is your usual Tory slimeball and as much use as one.
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
Usual jingo Colonial mumbo jumbo. We more than pay our way, Westminster control hte purse and what an arse they are making of it. Pretending that Scotland borrows all the money is pathetic and only a senile halfwitted cretin or someone with the intelligence of a 3 year old would try to pretend it was. GIRUY
Off the cask strength turnip juice, for you. Back on the 40%.
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
Usual jingo Colonial mumbo jumbo. We more than pay our way, Westminster control hte purse and what an arse they are making of it. Pretending that Scotland borrows all the money is pathetic and only a senile halfwitted cretin or someone with the intelligence of a 3 year old would try to pretend it was. GIRUY
Off the cask strength turnip juice, for you. Back on the 40%.
So you agree with me then.
Definitely too much of the cask strength there....
God that's horrible. Quite a depressing day, today
That Imperial study on vaccine efficacy was very welcome, a 93-95% reduction in severe symptoms is absolutely brilliant.
Yes. Much needed
I have a horrible sense of inevitability about lockdown 4. Paradoxically, the total weakness of Boris Johnson might just be the thing that stops it happening. The rebellion over Plan B was huge, and now the PM is even more imperilled
VIVE LA RESISTANCE
Indeed, by my calculation we may end up with far, far few hospitalisations per day than is currently predicted despite how fast Omicron spreads. We may get to the end of the year, the original calcs on severe disease were made at ~60% for these models reality at 93-95% is way better than that. I mean 5k deaths per day is just laughable.
Ferguson is now predicting 5,000 deaths a day within weeks.
So I suspect everything will be absolutely fine.
Except they really are gonna try and lock us down
"BREAKING: COBRA over the weekend will discuss whether new restrictions are needed"
I stand by my melancholy prediction. They know they are gonna lock down hard after Xmas, but they will do a lot to avoid anything much before then, because it is so unpopular. Expect a modest tightening, masks in pubs and restaurants, blah blah, then the "full fat fuck off and stay in your homes forever" a few days after Chrimbo
What's the point?
If its that transmissible then everyone will have already had it by Christmas? So why bother doing anything afterwards, its going to be closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
The old politicans' fallacy, I'm afraid.
"Something must be done" "This is something" "Therefore we must do it."
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
I don't understand, doesn't she have tax raising powers?
Sturgeon does - she put up the higher rate and raised less revenue - also borrowing powers - not sure Drakeford has as may financial levers. The only time either appear interested in business is when its a stick to beat Westminster with.
Wales Government gave higher levels of financial support to businesses than in England during the lockdowns.
"Johnson really is in cloud cuckoo land. Until he recognises that it is his sleaze and lying that is the real message of this defeat then there is no hope for this party"
"Is Brexit sustainable? It was voted in by the elderly years ago. There is no economic good news from it. Nothing for Brits to look forward to. More unnecessary pain."
"News about Downing Street Christmas Parties in Lockdown London, the video of Allegra Stratton laughing about it, Parties in Lockdown at Conservative Central HQ and Boris Johnson, Wallpaper and the Conservative donor and the barbecue Party in May 2020 - all this filled the masses with rage at the Government and at Boris Johnson in particular."
"As a Conservative voter the message I wish to leave with the Parliamentary Party is that you and Johnson between you have lost the North Shropshire bye election. You have done as you usually managed to do and that is to indulge your own preferences over the best interests of the country."
"The government needs to manage the country competently and stop being so sleazy and lying in the process. There seems only one cure for that."
"I would commend the Sam Coates Sky TV journalist interview today with Boris. As a Boris supporter his responses were dire. NOT what was needed right now. He doesn’t appear to * get it* !"
"The shine seems to be coming off Brexit here in North Shropshire, or at least it is much less of a tribal issue. "
"Boris Johnson's personal qualities make him unfit to hold any responsible job whatsoever."
"Unless there is major change the Party won't win the next GE. The shambles Johnston has made of Covid (first round of Vaccines excepted) will not count by then but high taxes, big state, high inflation and loss of civil liberties etc will."
"My local drinking group is fairly straightforward - they will tolerate a lot but hate with a passion being lied to. And that's the PM's modus operandi: lie, cheat and deceive when he was been found out about the parties last Christmas. Plus they greatly dislike the whiff of double-standards and downright corruption associated with attempting to get Paterson off the hook when he was clearly bang to rights."
"Conservatives in places like North Shropshire voted for Brexit because they believed Boris's promises that they would benefit. However, this largely rural constituency- especially its farmers - now realise they were lied to."
"Time for Bojo to go. Not only has he become a political joke he is in danger of single-handedly pushing the Conservative Party into oblivion."
"I'm pleased we lost, it may get rid of Johnson"
"This all comes back to Brexit. The way in which this was handled means that the party has lost the support of a substantial block of its traditional voters."
"This is clearly a protest vote against Johnson and his bunch of incompetents."
Err, why did they all vote for him then? I struggle to believe people can be politically aware enough to join conhome but not have known who Boris really was in 2019.
The truth is they did not mind the corruption or lies when they thought he was on their side. If he can re-frame it so he is on their side again, he will be fine.
Because all politics is relative. In 2019 you voted for a government led by Boris or one led by Jezza.
And in 2019 no other way was available (except Labour unicorns) out of the Brexit mire.
Nah, Con Home is where Boris fever took hold and brought down the existing Tory government. They choose Boris over Cameron, May, Javid, Gove, Stewart and Hunt, not just over Corbyn.
Quite right too, he was by far the best candidate at the time. He got the country out of the Brexit morass and saw off Corbyn with an 80 seat majority. Mission accomplished!
The problem is that voters don't (and shouldn't) do gratitude. That's done now, he's served his purpose, the question is who's best for the future and right now it seems hard to think that Boris is the answer.
Out of the morass? Bit early to claim that. UK split legally and economically as well as geographically, inward customs still not implemented, and so on. But it's Friday evening and dinner calls. Night all.
Yes we are out of the morass. We were in a mess with an agreement with a backstop that Parliament quite rightly wouldn't back, but nor would they back anything else. Article 50 just kept being extended and there were no viable alternatives.
Boris had a solution for that, Hunt and May didn't. So the members made the right choice.
Yes there may be issues going forwards, but that's the future's problem. That's not the same as the problems of the past. As I said, Boris dealt with the problems we had then, that's not the same thing as saying he'll be best for the problems of the future.
La La La La La
Why don't you regale us all with the one about how the UK Treasury will be paying an independent Scotland's pensions?
Away you cretin , losers always whine when found out , typical lying Tory. I said they would hav eto pay up as part of teh settlement and that would cover the pension payments Scots had made. Another snivelling little Tory jessie boy, GIRUY.
You haven't made any pension payments. Your generation never bothered saving anything for pensions, you instead accrued pension liabilities instead.
You really are thick, I am getting the state pension I contributed to for 50 years and I also have a shedload in personal pension and I don't pay NI. You on the other hand will hopefully get F all , your just desserts for being such a bellend.
Shropshire Star: Voters on the streets of Oswestry have laid the blame for the Tories’ defeat in the heartland seat of North Shropshire squarely at the door of Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
The constituency has been Tory for nearly 200 years, but many of those happy to speak to reporters in Oswestry laid the blame for the defeat at the Prime Minister’s door, with one calling him “lazy” and another saying he behaved with “complete disregard”.
I thought it would be a very much reduced majority for the Tories, but I am very pleased the message has been sent,” said Tony Parnell, with his wife Jill Parnell. “This leadership, I think, displays the worst in humanity, he (Boris Johnson) displays a complete disregard and no care for anybody other than himself,” he said. “He doesn’t even care that he’s been caught out about the parties. All he wanted to be, in my opinion, was Prime Minister.”
Fine, as long as you don't expect the tax payers of England to pick up the bill:
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
Usual jingo Colonial mumbo jumbo. We more than pay our way, Westminster control hte purse and what an arse they are making of it. Pretending that Scotland borrows all the money is pathetic and only a senile halfwitted cretin or someone with the intelligence of a 3 year old would try to pretend it was. GIRUY
Off the cask strength turnip juice, for you. Back on the 40%.
So you agree with me then.
Definitely too much of the cask strength there....
Unfortunately one 330ml craft ale only. Some people have to work and pay tax to keep the slackers in the style they are accustomed too.
This scenario from Imperial, for a hypothetical LMIC "with substantial prior transmission and low vaccine access", says a country like South Africa will see 6,000 Omicron deaths *a day* (current 7-day average: 31)
Sorry, I'm not a maths-brain, but this can't possibly be right.
"Johnson really is in cloud cuckoo land. Until he recognises that it is his sleaze and lying that is the real message of this defeat then there is no hope for this party"
"Is Brexit sustainable? It was voted in by the elderly years ago. There is no economic good news from it. Nothing for Brits to look forward to. More unnecessary pain."
"News about Downing Street Christmas Parties in Lockdown London, the video of Allegra Stratton laughing about it, Parties in Lockdown at Conservative Central HQ and Boris Johnson, Wallpaper and the Conservative donor and the barbecue Party in May 2020 - all this filled the masses with rage at the Government and at Boris Johnson in particular."
"As a Conservative voter the message I wish to leave with the Parliamentary Party is that you and Johnson between you have lost the North Shropshire bye election. You have done as you usually managed to do and that is to indulge your own preferences over the best interests of the country."
"The government needs to manage the country competently and stop being so sleazy and lying in the process. There seems only one cure for that."
"I would commend the Sam Coates Sky TV journalist interview today with Boris. As a Boris supporter his responses were dire. NOT what was needed right now. He doesn’t appear to * get it* !"
"The shine seems to be coming off Brexit here in North Shropshire, or at least it is much less of a tribal issue. "
"Boris Johnson's personal qualities make him unfit to hold any responsible job whatsoever."
"Unless there is major change the Party won't win the next GE. The shambles Johnston has made of Covid (first round of Vaccines excepted) will not count by then but high taxes, big state, high inflation and loss of civil liberties etc will."
"My local drinking group is fairly straightforward - they will tolerate a lot but hate with a passion being lied to. And that's the PM's modus operandi: lie, cheat and deceive when he was been found out about the parties last Christmas. Plus they greatly dislike the whiff of double-standards and downright corruption associated with attempting to get Paterson off the hook when he was clearly bang to rights."
"Conservatives in places like North Shropshire voted for Brexit because they believed Boris's promises that they would benefit. However, this largely rural constituency- especially its farmers - now realise they were lied to."
"Time for Bojo to go. Not only has he become a political joke he is in danger of single-handedly pushing the Conservative Party into oblivion."
"I'm pleased we lost, it may get rid of Johnson"
"This all comes back to Brexit. The way in which this was handled means that the party has lost the support of a substantial block of its traditional voters."
"This is clearly a protest vote against Johnson and his bunch of incompetents."
Err, why did they all vote for him then? I struggle to believe people can be politically aware enough to join conhome but not have known who Boris really was in 2019.
The truth is they did not mind the corruption or lies when they thought he was on their side. If he can re-frame it so he is on their side again, he will be fine.
Because all politics is relative. In 2019 you voted for a government led by Boris or one led by Jezza.
And in 2019 no other way was available (except Labour unicorns) out of the Brexit mire.
Nah, Con Home is where Boris fever took hold and brought down the existing Tory government. They choose Boris over Cameron, May, Javid, Gove, Stewart and Hunt, not just over Corbyn.
Quite right too, he was by far the best candidate at the time. He got the country out of the Brexit morass and saw off Corbyn with an 80 seat majority. Mission accomplished!
The problem is that voters don't (and shouldn't) do gratitude. That's done now, he's served his purpose, the question is who's best for the future and right now it seems hard to think that Boris is the answer.
Out of the morass? Bit early to claim that. UK split legally and economically as well as geographically, inward customs still not implemented, and so on. But it's Friday evening and dinner calls. Night all.
Yes we are out of the morass. We were in a mess with an agreement with a backstop that Parliament quite rightly wouldn't back, but nor would they back anything else. Article 50 just kept being extended and there were no viable alternatives.
Boris had a solution for that, Hunt and May didn't. So the members made the right choice.
Yes there may be issues going forwards, but that's the future's problem. That's not the same as the problems of the past. As I said, Boris dealt with the problems we had then, that's not the same thing as saying he'll be best for the problems of the future.
La La La La La
Why don't you regale us all with the one about how the UK Treasury will be paying an independent Scotland's pensions?
Away you cretin , losers always whine when found out , typical lying Tory. I said they would hav eto pay up as part of teh settlement and that would cover the pension payments Scots had made. Another snivelling little Tory jessie boy, GIRUY.
You haven't made any pension payments. Your generation never bothered saving anything for pensions, you instead accrued pension liabilities instead.
You really are thick, I am getting the state pension I contributed to for 50 years and I also have a shedload in personal pension and I don't pay NI. You on the other hand will hopefully get F all , your just desserts for being such a bellend.
Sorry but you're the thickie
You never contributed to the state pension, there is no state pension pot. There is no pile of cash marked "pension contributions" that you contributed towards that you're now drawing down or can be distributed to Scotland upon independence.
Pensions are a liability, not a saving or something you've contributed to. You've fallen for a lie if you thought it was something you had.
"Johnson really is in cloud cuckoo land. Until he recognises that it is his sleaze and lying that is the real message of this defeat then there is no hope for this party"
"Is Brexit sustainable? It was voted in by the elderly years ago. There is no economic good news from it. Nothing for Brits to look forward to. More unnecessary pain."
"News about Downing Street Christmas Parties in Lockdown London, the video of Allegra Stratton laughing about it, Parties in Lockdown at Conservative Central HQ and Boris Johnson, Wallpaper and the Conservative donor and the barbecue Party in May 2020 - all this filled the masses with rage at the Government and at Boris Johnson in particular."
"As a Conservative voter the message I wish to leave with the Parliamentary Party is that you and Johnson between you have lost the North Shropshire bye election. You have done as you usually managed to do and that is to indulge your own preferences over the best interests of the country."
"The government needs to manage the country competently and stop being so sleazy and lying in the process. There seems only one cure for that."
"I would commend the Sam Coates Sky TV journalist interview today with Boris. As a Boris supporter his responses were dire. NOT what was needed right now. He doesn’t appear to * get it* !"
"The shine seems to be coming off Brexit here in North Shropshire, or at least it is much less of a tribal issue. "
"Boris Johnson's personal qualities make him unfit to hold any responsible job whatsoever."
"Unless there is major change the Party won't win the next GE. The shambles Johnston has made of Covid (first round of Vaccines excepted) will not count by then but high taxes, big state, high inflation and loss of civil liberties etc will."
"My local drinking group is fairly straightforward - they will tolerate a lot but hate with a passion being lied to. And that's the PM's modus operandi: lie, cheat and deceive when he was been found out about the parties last Christmas. Plus they greatly dislike the whiff of double-standards and downright corruption associated with attempting to get Paterson off the hook when he was clearly bang to rights."
"Conservatives in places like North Shropshire voted for Brexit because they believed Boris's promises that they would benefit. However, this largely rural constituency- especially its farmers - now realise they were lied to."
"Time for Bojo to go. Not only has he become a political joke he is in danger of single-handedly pushing the Conservative Party into oblivion."
"I'm pleased we lost, it may get rid of Johnson"
"This all comes back to Brexit. The way in which this was handled means that the party has lost the support of a substantial block of its traditional voters."
"This is clearly a protest vote against Johnson and his bunch of incompetents."
Err, why did they all vote for him then? I struggle to believe people can be politically aware enough to join conhome but not have known who Boris really was in 2019.
The truth is they did not mind the corruption or lies when they thought he was on their side. If he can re-frame it so he is on their side again, he will be fine.
Because all politics is relative. In 2019 you voted for a government led by Boris or one led by Jezza.
And in 2019 no other way was available (except Labour unicorns) out of the Brexit mire.
Nah, Con Home is where Boris fever took hold and brought down the existing Tory government. They choose Boris over Cameron, May, Javid, Gove, Stewart and Hunt, not just over Corbyn.
Quite right too, he was by far the best candidate at the time. He got the country out of the Brexit morass and saw off Corbyn with an 80 seat majority. Mission accomplished!
The problem is that voters don't (and shouldn't) do gratitude. That's done now, he's served his purpose, the question is who's best for the future and right now it seems hard to think that Boris is the answer.
Out of the morass? Bit early to claim that. UK split legally and economically as well as geographically, inward customs still not implemented, and so on. But it's Friday evening and dinner calls. Night all.
Yes we are out of the morass. We were in a mess with an agreement with a backstop that Parliament quite rightly wouldn't back, but nor would they back anything else. Article 50 just kept being extended and there were no viable alternatives.
Boris had a solution for that, Hunt and May didn't. So the members made the right choice.
Yes there may be issues going forwards, but that's the future's problem. That's not the same as the problems of the past. As I said, Boris dealt with the problems we had then, that's not the same thing as saying he'll be best for the problems of the future.
La La La La La
Why don't you regale us all with the one about how the UK Treasury will be paying an independent Scotland's pensions?
Away you cretin , losers always whine when found out , typical lying Tory. I said they would hav eto pay up as part of teh settlement and that would cover the pension payments Scots had made. Another snivelling little Tory jessie boy, GIRUY.
You haven't made any pension payments. Your generation never bothered saving anything for pensions, you instead accrued pension liabilities instead.
You really are thick, I am getting the state pension I contributed to for 50 years and I also have a shedload in personal pension and I don't pay NI. You on the other hand will hopefully get F all , your just desserts for being such a bellend.
Sorry but you're the thickie
You never contributed to the state pension, there is no state pension pot. There is no pile of cash marked "pension contributions" that you contributed towards that you're now drawing down or can be distributed to Scotland upon independence.
Pensions are a liability, not a saving or something you've contributed to. You've fallen for a lie if you thought it was something you had.
Yet I get sent my state pension every 4 weeks and get increases regularly, even got my winter fuel payment recently. You think they are paying me for nothing.
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Assuming big Omi leaves any of us alive.
Germany is at the same level the UK was at on November 30, so they're about two and a half weeks behind. Of course, they should have started earlier, but at least they're moving now.
Google spaghetti al ragu.
Le délai pour recevoir sa dose de rappel va passer à 4 mois (au lieu de 5 mois) à partir du lundi 3 janvier, annonce Jean Castex. #Covid19
However it's happened here the unelected scientists have had their power taken off them, across Europe they still churn out the same garbage as they do here.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2010/nov/25/how-to-make-perfect-bolognese
The latest restrictions do seem half-baked. If they are worried about the spread of Omicron in the short term, they should lock down properly until Xmas, to buy themselves some time to get the boosters done. I doubt if pubs and restaurants can operate profitably with those restrictions.
These must be projections or estimates? and they may tern out to be accurate but but surly there should be a 'health warning with them'?
The first minister says business support should be available for all nations when they are needed, "not just at the point when restrictions are introduced in England"
https://twitter.com/ITVWales/status/1471820453375324166?s=20
@WHO
,
@CDCGov
and IPC(*) to clearly state that COVID-19 is a dominantly AIRBORNE disease?
TLDR: see slide
https://twitter.com/jljcolorado/status/1470825435579621377
Fact is, Scotland's paying 66m to hospitality businesses pulled from other budgets. Do you think that is right or wrong?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/dec/17/sturgeons-urgency-on-covid-hits-brick-wall-of-johnson-optimism
In the midst of the fifth wave, 119 children under the age of 10 who have contracted the coronavirus are currently being treated in hospitals across the country, including 27 in critical care. Not seen in two years of pandemic.
https://www.liberation.fr/societe/covid-19-nouveau-record-du-nombre-denfants-hospitalises-en-france-20211216_MSU4HWIUPFDKBG6CGDMZWRH4UQ/ (auto-translated from French so e&oe)
Badger badger Badger badger badger badger Badger badger
https://fortune.com/2021/12/17/omicron-covid-hospitalization-rates-south-africa-lower-previous-variants-delta/
They've no foundation for that argument.
The problem is that voters don't (and shouldn't) do gratitude. That's done now, he's served his purpose, the question is who's best for the future and right now it seems hard to think that Boris is the answer.
I have a horrible sense of inevitability about lockdown 4. Paradoxically, the total weakness of Boris Johnson might just be the thing that stops it happening. The rebellion over Plan B was huge, and now the PM is even more imperilled
VIVE LA RESISTANCE
The astonishing result immediately fuelled a seething uprising against Mr Johnson, who suffered one of the biggest Commons rebellions ever over Covid measures this week, and has been battling allegations of sleaze and lockdown-busting parties in Downing Street.
Revealing that he has already sent a letter of no confidence to the Tory 1922 committee chairman, veteran MP Roger Gale said the defeat was a 'referendum on the PM's performance' and he is at 'last orders time'. A normally loyal northern MP warned that Mr Johnson is 'finished' and it is 'just a matter of time' before he goes.
Election guru Professor John Curtice said he rated the result as 8.5 out of 10 on a scale of political 'earthquakes'.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19774496.indyref2-necessary-planning-vote-included-scottish-budget/
And how about the £30million on external affairs.....
It's in their hands now.
So we are still using mitigation measures where there is a fair chance that we will one day have a consensus that they were a total waste of effort.
GIRUY
"Hammersmith and Fulham, where cases have risen by 45 per cent in a week, is recruiting residents to administer booster vaccines and volunteers to deliver food if there is another lockdown.
Council leader Stephen Cowen told the Standard: "We are preparing for a lockdown and are back on civic emergency guidelines.”"
Great. Volunteers to DELIVER FOOD. CIVIC EMERGENCY GUIDELINES
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-borough-covid-rates-cases-surge-council-prepare-lockdown-new-year-b972457.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10322159/Protestor-set-fire-police-van-officers-inside-200-000-Bristol-rampage-jailed.html
Boris had a solution for that, Hunt and May didn't. So the members made the right choice.
Yes there may be issues going forwards, but that's the future's problem. That's not the same as the problems of the past. As I said, Boris dealt with the problems we had then, that's not the same thing as saying he'll be best for the problems of the future.
I wonder if politicians do believe it will be that serious or if they're largely worried about being blamed for avoidable deaths because they were too slow with boosters?
My takeaways from today. BBC morning radio bulletins consigned B. Shropshire to an also ran story which was surprisingly. From the later bulletins, Sunak has sold himself as the knight to the rescue amidst the chaos (cleverly diverting from having taken his holidays early-crafty!). Johnson on the other hand is more or less grumbling that he would have gotten away with it were it not for those pesky journalists and opposition politicians, he clearly needs to clip their wings!
So I suspect everything will be absolutely fine.
If their serious modelling was saying that, Mitchie and some other muppets would be resigning from SAGE calling Boris a mass murderer.
But he's resigned before starting the job as Govt didn't seek ref from Women For Women Int UK, where as chair he faced 3 formal misconduct complaints in 5 years...
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/be277850-5f54-11ec-8fac-c70e630faee6?shareToken=d1354bb5aa4cca56ca79d36c4c75853b
"BREAKING: COBRA over the weekend will discuss whether new restrictions are needed"
https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1471910856476794889?s=20
I stand by my melancholy prediction. They know they are gonna lock down hard after Xmas, but they will do a lot to avoid anything much before then, because it is so unpopular. Expect a modest tightening, masks in pubs and restaurants, blah blah, then the "full fat fuck off and stay in your homes forever" a few days after Chrimbo
Not the Met, obviously.
509 in ICU
564 in high care
195 ventilated
1280 oxygenated
The numbers on ventilators appear to have fallen.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10321309/Chris-Cuomos-CNN-producer-hosted-sleepovers-pool-parties-friends-three-young-children.html
https://twitter.com/murdo_fraser/status/1471753801795309571?s=20
If its that transmissible then everyone will have already had it by Christmas? So why bother doing anything afterwards, its going to be closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
I am away again tomorrow so horses on tonight.
Have done EW double and singles.
Gaulois 12:40 Ascot
Samarrive 15:35 Ascot
https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/
You don't need to rely on random twitter accounts or people scraping the historical data store
🏴 739,867 (including me, wahey)
🏴 63,327
🏴 34,012
NI 24,100
https://twitter.com/HugoGye/status/1471926030151688200?t=aSldmTkh7t6cyXKQvFn4AA&s=19
"Something must be done"
"This is something"
"Therefore we must do it."
PBToriesNats when it is applied to Scotland.Getting close to a million now. Its going to peak lower than I thought because its going to run out of people to jab.
The constituency has been Tory for nearly 200 years, but many of those happy to speak to reporters in Oswestry laid the blame for the defeat at the Prime Minister’s door, with one calling him “lazy” and another saying he behaved with “complete disregard”.
I thought it would be a very much reduced majority for the Tories, but I am very pleased the message has been sent,” said Tony Parnell, with his wife Jill Parnell. “This leadership, I think, displays the worst in humanity, he (Boris Johnson) displays a complete disregard and no care for anybody other than himself,” he said. “He doesn’t even care that he’s been caught out about the parties. All he wanted to be, in my opinion, was Prime Minister.”
Sorry, I'm not a maths-brain, but this can't possibly be right.
https://twitter.com/RufusSG
You never contributed to the state pension, there is no state pension pot. There is no pile of cash marked "pension contributions" that you contributed towards that you're now drawing down or can be distributed to Scotland upon independence.
Pensions are a liability, not a saving or something you've contributed to. You've fallen for a lie if you thought it was something you had.