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  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    I WEEKEND: Omicron infections now out of control #TomorrowsPapersToday https://t.co/XV8l1kRrLa

    Now? Where they ever under control?
    It was me, I was controlling them.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Soz.
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,590
    dixiedean said:

    Strewth. Looked at the footy fixtures last night. Most of EPL off, couple of handfuls of EFL.
    Tonight the vast majority off.
    Anecdotal evidence of the case surge.

    The idea anyone 20-40 with a social life hasn't caught it before xmas is for the birds.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,497

    Jesus christ its so gloomy in here

    It was nice to actually have 24 hours of actual political betting before the bugbotherers took back over 😆

    I for one certainly learnt something last night. Don’t eat two pizza, drink about 2 litre wine, attempt to mop up with chicken nugget sandwiches spicy Pringles and two pickled eggs then get excited and jump up and down.

    *betting post. I have a 100% record in political bets. MPs will be consulting me on their chances before throwing their hats into January’s leadership contest.
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    MaxPB said:

    Eabhal said:

    Competition Update:

    Highest Boosters to date: 861,306 (today)
    Nearest estimate: @carnyx (854,217)
    Next nearest: @Richard_Nabavi (896,322)

    Eliminated entries:
    @Endillion 525,600
    @MightyAlex 700,000
    @Cyclefree 723,527
    @Eabhal 825,000

    I'm still in the game. This is fun!
    I really thought it would be a flash in the pan.

    Quite impressed so many young people are coming forward - one of my friends is doing shuttle runs to a max-vaxx centre for people without a car (probably super spreading), and everyone is boasting about how long they queued on insta (3.5 hours at a mosque in Glasgow is the record).
    I'd be surprised if it gets much higher before peaking tbh. Christmas init.
    I think that's why it will get higher, people want it before next Friday. I wouldn't be surprised to see 1.1-1.3m per day next week until Friday. Then it will drop off for Xmas until the 4th of Jan.
    I assume the limit is on the capacity of the centres not the number of people who what to get jabed?
  • Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "UK researchers have analysed the likely impact that a Covid booster shot will have on Omicron and say it could provide around 85% protection against severe illness."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59696499

    These stats are so confusing. That sounds pretty bad. You have all three shots and you’ve still got a 1 in 6 chance of SEVERE illness? Presumably depending on age, co-morbidity etc

    No. If you had, say, a 20% chance of severe illness without a vaccine, that will be reduced by 85% to a 3% chance.
    So you're telling me there's a chance!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "UK researchers have analysed the likely impact that a Covid booster shot will have on Omicron and say it could provide around 85% protection against severe illness."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59696499

    These stats are so confusing. That sounds pretty bad. You have all three shots and you’ve still got a 1 in 6 chance of SEVERE illness? Presumably depending on age, co-morbidity etc

    FFS mate.....2 years and you are making this mistake...its always "effectiveness" i.e. reduction versus nothing.
    Yes, my bad. I was kind of aware I was making a dumb statement, in my defence. Hence the "confusing"

    There is so much data every day, esp right now. Some dodgy some worthy some wanky some bizarre
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    tlg86 said:

    I assume all of PB knows that Boxing Day is 27 December this year.

    Boxing Day is still 26 December but the compensating bank holiday is on the 28th. The 27th is for Xmas Day.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Edinboro Castle. Huge popular boozer ten yards from my Camden flat. Massive heated beer garden

    Three weeks ago, packed at weekends. Tonight, Friday night, seven days from Christmas, maybe 10% full. Barely a dozen drinkers

    We in de facto lockdown anyway. Hospitality is being slaughtered

    Except without the financial support...
    Most folk lockdown whatever the government says. And whatever pleas to rational argument. Cos they don't want to get sick.
    I remember seeing Manchester Piccadilly station in the early weeks of March 2020, before lockdown, and you could see it becoming less and less busy.

    People don't need formal lockdowns to change their behaviour.
    Doesn't seem to have hit Leicester in a big way yet.

    Has anyone mentioned this story?

    Covid: Addenbrooke's boss says 80% of virus patients are unvaccinated
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-59699891

    It's nothing new. It's what my A&E consultant friend says. In fact I think she says *all* the patients are unvaxxed.
    Not quite, but all of the ICU patients are unvaxxed at my hospital. Staff try not to be judgemental, but it is a factor in why there is not much in the way of volunteering for redeployment.
  • I am almost certain we are headed where Ireland is headed.
  • dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Edinboro Castle. Huge popular boozer ten yards from my Camden flat. Massive heated beer garden

    Three weeks ago, packed at weekends. Tonight, Friday night, seven days from Christmas, maybe 10% full. Barely a dozen drinkers

    We in de facto lockdown anyway. Hospitality is being slaughtered

    Except without the financial support...
    Most folk lockdown whatever the government says. And whatever pleas to rational argument. Cos they don't want to get sick.
    I remember seeing Manchester Piccadilly station in the early weeks of March 2020, before lockdown, and you could see it becoming less and less busy.

    People don't need formal lockdowns to change their behaviour.
    That's fine, its called freedom. Let people decide.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,802
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "UK researchers have analysed the likely impact that a Covid booster shot will have on Omicron and say it could provide around 85% protection against severe illness."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59696499

    These stats are so confusing. That sounds pretty bad. You have all three shots and you’ve still got a 1 in 6 chance of SEVERE illness? Presumably depending on age, co-morbidity etc

    FFS mate.....2 years and you are making this mistake...its always "effectiveness" i.e. reduction versus nothing.
    Yes, my bad. I was kind of aware I was making a dumb statement, in my defence. Hence the "confusing"

    There is so much data every day, esp right now. Some dodgy some worthy some wanky some bizarre
    That one is dodgy anyway, it takes no account of t-cells.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    maaarsh said:

    tlg86 said:

    I assume all of PB knows that Boxing Day is 27 December this year.

    Nope, that's Christmas day if you're talking about moveable bank holidays.
    Not that. Christmas Day is Saturday, and in the olden times the next day was known as Christmas Sunday.

    But it’s lost it’s meaning since the change to Sunday trading laws. Even the King George VI chase at Kempton Park is on Sunday 26 December these days.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153
    tlg86 said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Edinboro Castle. Huge popular boozer ten yards from my Camden flat. Massive heated beer garden

    Three weeks ago, packed at weekends. Tonight, Friday night, seven days from Christmas, maybe 10% full. Barely a dozen drinkers

    We in de facto lockdown anyway. Hospitality is being slaughtered

    Except without the financial support...
    Most folk lockdown whatever the government says. And whatever pleas to rational argument. Cos they don't want to get sick.
    I remember seeing Manchester Piccadilly station in the early weeks of March 2020, before lockdown, and you could see it becoming less and less busy.

    People don't need formal lockdowns to change their behaviour.
    That was pre-vaccines. We just don’t know how many people will obey a lockdown now.
    We see behaviour changing already: @Leon's example of the his local pub is one example.

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Edinboro Castle. Huge popular boozer ten yards from my Camden flat. Massive heated beer garden

    Three weeks ago, packed at weekends. Tonight, Friday night, seven days from Christmas, maybe 10% full. Barely a dozen drinkers

    We in de facto lockdown anyway. Hospitality is being slaughtered

    Except without the financial support...
    Most folk lockdown whatever the government says. And whatever pleas to rational argument. Cos they don't want to get sick.
    I remember seeing Manchester Piccadilly station in the early weeks of March 2020, before lockdown, and you could see it becoming less and less busy.

    People don't need formal lockdowns to change their behaviour.
    That was pre-vaccines. We just don’t know how many people will obey a lockdown now.
    We see behaviour changing already: @Leon's example of the his local pub is one example.

    I blame all the scare-mongering.
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,590

    I am almost certain we are headed where Ireland is headed.

    You were almost certain Jeremy was gonna be prime minister.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,663
    Alistair said:

    I WEEKEND: Omicron infections now out of control #TomorrowsPapersToday https://t.co/XV8l1kRrLa

    Now? Where they ever under control?
    It was me, I was controlling them.
    Well ffs - why did you stop?
  • maaarsh said:

    I am almost certain we are headed where Ireland is headed.

    You were almost certain Jeremy was gonna be prime minister.
    Fair point, although I've been correct about every previous lockdown and my recent predictions after GE19 have been correct
  • IanB2 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I assume all of PB knows that Boxing Day is 27 December this year.

    Boxing Day is still 26 December but the compensating bank holiday is on the 28th. The 27th is for Xmas Day.
    When I was little my next-door neighbour was a nurse who had to work on Christmas Day. That year the Bank Holiday was the weekend and so she got paid normal pay on Christmas Day while those who worked on the Monday were paid double-time. She wasn't too impressed by that at all. No idea how that can be allowed to happen, or if its still the case nowadays.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Edinboro Castle. Huge popular boozer ten yards from my Camden flat. Massive heated beer garden

    Three weeks ago, packed at weekends. Tonight, Friday night, seven days from Christmas, maybe 10% full. Barely a dozen drinkers

    We in de facto lockdown anyway. Hospitality is being slaughtered

    Except without the financial support...
    Most folk lockdown whatever the government says. And whatever pleas to rational argument. Cos they don't want to get sick.
    I remember seeing Manchester Piccadilly station in the early weeks of March 2020, before lockdown, and you could see it becoming less and less busy.

    People don't need formal lockdowns to change their behaviour.
    That was pre-vaccines. We just don’t know how many people will obey a lockdown now.
    We see behaviour changing already: @Leon's example of the his local pub is one example.

    I don’t dispute that people will change their behaviour through choice. But if the government says no household mixing etc., I wouldn’t bet on enough people obeying for it to make any difference.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,011

    I am almost certain we are headed where Ireland is headed.

    A border poll?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,802
    It is funny that on the day the government has had to retract it's official 200k Omicron cases per day stat a whole bunch of other dodgy ones come out to replace it.
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,590
    For a chance of pace, and for all the wind power pervs out there, next week should be a good example of their folly. Our 24GW capacity will spend one of the coldest, highest demand weeks of the year generating more or less bugger all, and we'll be busy burning gas and coal in power stations we've paid to exist but not run all year (with that cost not being attributed to the wind economic calculations).

    In the absense of a viable wind based network without using gas back-up at times of peak gas demand and cost, you almost start to think Nuclear could be made economic.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,497
    maaarsh said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Edinboro Castle. Huge popular boozer ten yards from my Camden flat. Massive heated beer garden

    Three weeks ago, packed at weekends. Tonight, Friday night, seven days from Christmas, maybe 10% full. Barely a dozen drinkers

    We in de facto lockdown anyway. Hospitality is being slaughtered

    Except without the financial support...
    Most folk lockdown whatever the government says. And whatever pleas to rational argument. Cos they don't want to get sick.
    I still havn’t heard from PBs hive mind what intervention Sunak can actually take. How is it targeted for effectiveness, fairness?
    Another rates cancellation for hospitality, a few grants, then just hope someone is willing to reopen them in Feb when this nonsense is over. It's bloody awful if you're the mug paying the bills, but unless the premises are demolished and the people all emmigrate, the capacity will still be there when needed.
    Yes I agree. Keep things alive. For some people a family business is their life and passion, it’s more than just an accountants decision, it’s social fabric of community life, so surely if Rishi can hand fraudsters thirty billion on a plate he can help out genuine people tomorrow? Imagine opening your doors and no punters come in 🙁 Imagine of it becomes a double whammy with face off with Russia, energy prices making business unworkable, it will scar our homeland for decades or generations.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    I WEEKEND: Omicron infections now out of control #TomorrowsPapersToday https://t.co/XV8l1kRrLa

    lol


    BREAKING: Vampire wakes at night, seeks blood of comely maidens
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787

    Jesus christ its so gloomy in here

    It was nice to actually have 24 hours of actual political betting before the bugbotherers took back over 😆
    We could talk about Brexit?

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633
    edited December 2021

    IanB2 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I assume all of PB knows that Boxing Day is 27 December this year.

    Boxing Day is still 26 December but the compensating bank holiday is on the 28th. The 27th is for Xmas Day.
    When I was little my next-door neighbour was a nurse who had to work on Christmas Day. That year the Bank Holiday was the weekend and so she got paid normal pay on Christmas Day while those who worked on the Monday were paid double-time. She wasn't too impressed by that at all. No idea how that can be allowed to happen, or if its still the case nowadays.
    Working Christmas is just part of salary for me, but I do get a day of leave in lieu for bank Holidays. So no days in lieu for working Christmas Eve, Christmas Day New Year's Eve or New Year's Day this year.
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    edited December 2021
    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I assume all of PB knows that Boxing Day is 27 December this year.

    Boxing Day is still 26 December but the compensating bank holiday is on the 28th. The 27th is for Xmas Day.
    When I was little my next-door neighbour was a nurse who had to work on Christmas Day. That year the Bank Holiday was the weekend and so she got paid normal pay on Christmas Day while those who worked on the Monday were paid double-time. She wasn't too impressed by that at all. No idea how that can be allowed to happen, or if its still the case nowadays.
    Working Christmas is just part of salary foe me, but I do get a day of leave on lieu for bank Holidays. So no days in lieu for working Christmas Eve, Christmas Day New Year's Eve or New Year's Day this year.
    But shurely there are still bank holidays for those days, just moved to the next weekday aren't they?

    ETA: gov.uk says


    27 December Monday Christmas Day (substitute day)
    28 December Tuesday Boxing Day (substitute day)


    So you don't get days off in lieu for those? You should get on to your union rep!
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    Alistair said:

    I WEEKEND: Omicron infections now out of control #TomorrowsPapersToday https://t.co/XV8l1kRrLa

    Now? Where they ever under control?
    It was me, I was controlling them.
    Well ffs - why did you stop?
    Cat jumped onto my keyboard and added a bunch of zeros onto the end of the case numbers field.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,011
    Another of our offices down south went ahead with their Christmas party. I'm sure you can guess the rest.

    Hopefully all will just have mild cases.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275
    So if this party had not come to light then Case would have continued in his role . Shouldn’t he resign for being so pathetically useless that he didn’t work out there would be a conflict of interest and why on earth should he be trusted with anything else in the future . Why on earth isn’t there a truly independent process for this . Hilariously the new person overseeing this will be reporting her findings to the PM so the co-accused ! I mean what sort of joke is this !
  • I am almost certain we are headed where Ireland is headed.

    A border poll?
    A quick one now for round London?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,497
    tlg86 said:

    I assume all of PB knows that Boxing Day is 27 December this year.

    King George is on Sunday. That makes it Boxing Day.

    Maybe we should consult the Queen on when she will open the alms boxes?
  • Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I assume all of PB knows that Boxing Day is 27 December this year.

    Boxing Day is still 26 December but the compensating bank holiday is on the 28th. The 27th is for Xmas Day.
    When I was little my next-door neighbour was a nurse who had to work on Christmas Day. That year the Bank Holiday was the weekend and so she got paid normal pay on Christmas Day while those who worked on the Monday were paid double-time. She wasn't too impressed by that at all. No idea how that can be allowed to happen, or if its still the case nowadays.
    Working Christmas is just part of salary for me, but I do get a day of leave in lieu for bank Holidays. So no days in lieu for working Christmas Eve, Christmas Day New Year's Eve or New Year's Day this year.
    Right so that's probably the same as what my neighbour had ~30 years ago, I was going off memory.

    That's really odd for me, that working the Bank Holiday would get more compensation than working Christmas Day itself. Messed up situation.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633
    rpjs said:

    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I assume all of PB knows that Boxing Day is 27 December this year.

    Boxing Day is still 26 December but the compensating bank holiday is on the 28th. The 27th is for Xmas Day.
    When I was little my next-door neighbour was a nurse who had to work on Christmas Day. That year the Bank Holiday was the weekend and so she got paid normal pay on Christmas Day while those who worked on the Monday were paid double-time. She wasn't too impressed by that at all. No idea how that can be allowed to happen, or if its still the case nowadays.
    Working Christmas is just part of salary foe me, but I do get a day of leave on lieu for bank Holidays. So no days in lieu for working Christmas Eve, Christmas Day New Year's Eve or New Year's Day this year.
    But shurely there are still bank holidays for those days, just moved to the next weekday aren't they?
    Yes, I would get a days lieu this year for working any of: 26*, 27, 28 Dec, 2* or 3rd Jan.

    *Being on call after midnight until the baton is passed at 0800 the next day. On call is 24 hours.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:

    10 Downing Street is going to be the only hospitality venue open in the next few weeks isn't it?

    We’ve had a record year this Christmas and only one deferral
    By 'we', I assume you mean No 10?
    My foundation - we rent out our London home for parties & the foundation gets the process
  • maaarsh said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Important leak to my colleague Jim tonight below - SAGE minutes suggest tougher restrictions needed before New Year if we're to avoid 3k people going to hospital every day
    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1471932874261770248
    https://twitter.com/jim_reed/status/1471915719117971456

    Hang on, I thought 5000 were dying a day? It’s so hard to keep up with the bullshit numbers...
    Yep but most of them will die twice - good practice for end of Jan when we're each going to have to die every hour with only a 6 hour sleep break.
    By February we'll all die in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before we get infected, take a PCR test, spend twenty-nine hours a day down ICU, and pay our bosses for permission to come to work, and when we got home, Omicron will kill us, and dance about on our graves singing 'Hallelujah.'
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,663
    edited December 2021
    Leon said:

    I WEEKEND: Omicron infections now out of control #TomorrowsPapersToday https://t.co/XV8l1kRrLa

    lol

    BREAKING: Vampire wakes at night, seeks blood of comely maidens
    See also: friend of Boris resigns as head of Charity Commission before starting due to “inappropriate behaviour”.
  • News Flash - Seattle Seahawks’ game against the Rams in Los Angeles has been pushed from Sunday to Tuesday at 4 p.m. because of COVID-19 issues.
  • @isam can tell us why this latest poll now is actually bad news for Keir Starmer!
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,986

    Another of our offices down south went ahead with their Christmas party. I'm sure you can guess the rest.

    Hopefully all will just have mild cases.

    So did we, last week. 7 people down. But lucky for them in a way, they’re all through it now whereas Sod’s law dictates one of our family will test positive on the 23rd.
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,590

    maaarsh said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Important leak to my colleague Jim tonight below - SAGE minutes suggest tougher restrictions needed before New Year if we're to avoid 3k people going to hospital every day
    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1471932874261770248
    https://twitter.com/jim_reed/status/1471915719117971456

    Hang on, I thought 5000 were dying a day? It’s so hard to keep up with the bullshit numbers...
    Yep but most of them will die twice - good practice for end of Jan when we're each going to have to die every hour with only a 6 hour sleep break.
    By February we'll all die in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before we get infected, take a PCR test, spend twenty-nine hours a day down ICU, and pay our bosses for permission to come to work, and when we got home, Omicron will kill us, and dance about on our graves singing 'Hallelujah.'
    You try telling that to these covidiots though these days, and they won't believe you!
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    TimT said:

    Charles said:

    TimT said:

    PS He agreed with my theorizing that if omicron is now an upper rather than lower respiratory tract infection (which, along with the higher virus reproduction rates in the bronchi leading to higher shedded viral loads, helps explain why it is way more transmissible), then that is consistent with expecting it to be a less severe illness than previous variants.

    Meaning to ask you did you ever come across Julian Robinson? Had lunch with his sister last weekend
    Julian Perry Robinson?
    That’s him
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,134

    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I assume all of PB knows that Boxing Day is 27 December this year.

    Boxing Day is still 26 December but the compensating bank holiday is on the 28th. The 27th is for Xmas Day.
    When I was little my next-door neighbour was a nurse who had to work on Christmas Day. That year the Bank Holiday was the weekend and so she got paid normal pay on Christmas Day while those who worked on the Monday were paid double-time. She wasn't too impressed by that at all. No idea how that can be allowed to happen, or if its still the case nowadays.
    Working Christmas is just part of salary for me, but I do get a day of leave in lieu for bank Holidays. So no days in lieu for working Christmas Eve, Christmas Day New Year's Eve or New Year's Day this year.
    Right so that's probably the same as what my neighbour had ~30 years ago, I was going off memory.

    That's really odd for me, that working the Bank Holiday would get more compensation than working Christmas Day itself. Messed up situation.
    How do you think Omicron is assessing the chances of a Lockdown now?
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,590
    nico679 said:

    So if this party had not come to light then Case would have continued in his role . Shouldn’t he resign for being so pathetically useless that he didn’t work out there would be a conflict of interest and why on earth should he be trusted with anything else in the future . Why on earth isn’t there a truly independent process for this . Hilariously the new person overseeing this will be reporting her findings to the PM so the co-accused ! I mean what sort of joke is this !

    Yep, even if he is ultimately exonerated, it's hard to see how accepting the lead of an investigation that he is a legitimate suspect of, is not an instant resignation/sacking in disgrace offence.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633

    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I assume all of PB knows that Boxing Day is 27 December this year.

    Boxing Day is still 26 December but the compensating bank holiday is on the 28th. The 27th is for Xmas Day.
    When I was little my next-door neighbour was a nurse who had to work on Christmas Day. That year the Bank Holiday was the weekend and so she got paid normal pay on Christmas Day while those who worked on the Monday were paid double-time. She wasn't too impressed by that at all. No idea how that can be allowed to happen, or if its still the case nowadays.
    Working Christmas is just part of salary for me, but I do get a day of leave in lieu for bank Holidays. So no days in lieu for working Christmas Eve, Christmas Day New Year's Eve or New Year's Day this year.
    Right so that's probably the same as what my neighbour had ~30 years ago, I was going off memory.

    That's really odd for me, that working the Bank Holiday would get more compensation than working Christmas Day itself. Messed up situation.
    Yes, it has always been like that. Nurses get unsocial hours supplements etc, but off the top of my head I can't remember how that works.

    Mind you, when I was a junior doctor I was paid 38% of the base rate for on call, so on Christmas day would be the lowest paid worker in the hospital as House Officer.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,188

    Eabhal said:

    Competition Update:

    Highest Boosters to date: 861,306 (today)
    Nearest estimate: @carnyx (854,217)
    Next nearest: @Richard_Nabavi (896,322)

    Eliminated entries:
    @Endillion 525,600
    @MightyAlex 700,000
    @Cyclefree 723,527
    @Eabhal 825,000

    I'm still in the game. This is fun!
    I really thought it would be a flash in the pan.

    Quite impressed so many young people are coming forward - one of my friends is doing shuttle runs to a max-vaxx centre for people without a car (probably super spreading), and everyone is boasting about how long they queued on insta (3.5 hours at a mosque in Glasgow is the record).
    I'd be surprised if it gets much higher before peaking tbh. Christmas init.
    This sunday WILL be the peak for this round of jabs. Highest day for recording -> Christmas -> New Year -> Demand limitations.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    There’s a rumour doing rounds that Simon Case informed downing st about this event. But they went ahead with appointing him to investigation. Neither Cab office or Downing st have responded to say true or not but am asking
    https://twitter.com/AnushkaAsthana/status/1471949419524370434
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175

    tlg86 said:

    I assume all of PB knows that Boxing Day is 27 December this year.

    King George is on Sunday. That makes it Boxing Day.

    Maybe we should consult the Queen on when she will open the alms boxes?
    Yeah, I think the last time it was Monday 27 December was in 1999:

    https://www.skysports.com/racing/racecards/kempton-park/27-12-1999/161133/pertemps-king-george-vi-chase
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    Spain finally joins the party.

    33,000 cases, the most in one day since Nightclub Marbella Delta in the summer

    OMICRON THE HISPANOPHOBE
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,590
    Scott_xP said:

    There’s a rumour doing rounds that Simon Case informed downing st about this event. But they went ahead with appointing him to investigation. Neither Cab office or Downing st have responded to say true or not but am asking
    https://twitter.com/AnushkaAsthana/status/1471949419524370434

    Makes it even worse for Case frankly. We all already know Boris is a scumbag but that's for the electorate/1922 to judge. Case is supposed to be a man of honour.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208

    If it's not bolognese I want, please can I have a genuine recipe for the genuine thing it is, if possible :)

    It's ragù alla Bolognese - meat sauce Bologna style - so that is what you want. Personally I prefer to leave out the milk, include bacon, carrots and celery, not have too much tomato and add decent parmesan. But it's all personal. Better with fresh pasta in my view, which is what you are more likely to get in that part of Italy than dried pasta such as spaghetti, which is more from the South.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,076
    While I doubt we'll quite deliver all boosters by year end, we will be down to demand being the constraint by the end of first week of January.

    Cases will have also likely peaked by that point.

    What are the chances we can hold off significant restrictions for 3 weeks?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    So, the Boris speech this morning!

    I'll leave it for people far more qualified than me at reviewing incompetence....

    (Obvious clip credits to the TTOI cast, @SkyNews @Aiannucci @Tucker5law 😉 @mrchrisaddison etc etc...)

    #BorisMustGo #NorthShropshire #ToryChristmasparty https://twitter.com/milescook/status/1471928727781220365/video/1
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,663
    Pulpstar said:

    Eabhal said:

    Competition Update:

    Highest Boosters to date: 861,306 (today)
    Nearest estimate: @carnyx (854,217)
    Next nearest: @Richard_Nabavi (896,322)

    Eliminated entries:
    @Endillion 525,600
    @MightyAlex 700,000
    @Cyclefree 723,527
    @Eabhal 825,000

    I'm still in the game. This is fun!
    I really thought it would be a flash in the pan.

    Quite impressed so many young people are coming forward - one of my friends is doing shuttle runs to a max-vaxx centre for people without a car (probably super spreading), and everyone is boasting about how long they queued on insta (3.5 hours at a mosque in Glasgow is the record).
    I'd be surprised if it gets much higher before peaking tbh. Christmas init.
    This sunday WILL be the peak for this round of jabs. Highest day for recording -> Christmas -> New Year -> Demand limitations.
    Yes. 1,048,576 jabs I think.
  • Pulpstar said:

    Eabhal said:

    Competition Update:

    Highest Boosters to date: 861,306 (today)
    Nearest estimate: @carnyx (854,217)
    Next nearest: @Richard_Nabavi (896,322)

    Eliminated entries:
    @Endillion 525,600
    @MightyAlex 700,000
    @Cyclefree 723,527
    @Eabhal 825,000

    I'm still in the game. This is fun!
    I really thought it would be a flash in the pan.

    Quite impressed so many young people are coming forward - one of my friends is doing shuttle runs to a max-vaxx centre for people without a car (probably super spreading), and everyone is boasting about how long they queued on insta (3.5 hours at a mosque in Glasgow is the record).
    I'd be surprised if it gets much higher before peaking tbh. Christmas init.
    This sunday WILL be the peak for this round of jabs. Highest day for recording -> Christmas -> New Year -> Demand limitations.
    Yes. 1,048,576 jabs I think.
    If that's the peak then there's going to be a lot of people who haven't bothered to get their jab. :(
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    edited December 2021
    nico679 said:

    So if this party had not come to light then Case would have continued in his role . Shouldn’t he resign for being so pathetically useless that he didn’t work out there would be a conflict of interest and why on earth should he be trusted with anything else in the future . Why on earth isn’t there a truly independent process for this . Hilariously the new person overseeing this will be reporting her findings to the PM so the co-accused ! I mean what sort of joke is this !

    "Just in Case? The Case Against Case Being on the Case"
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633
    Ratters said:

    While I doubt we'll quite deliver all boosters by year end, we will be down to demand being the constraint by the end of first week of January.

    Cases will have also likely peaked by that point.

    What are the chances we can hold off significant restrictions for 3 weeks?

    Yes, I think so. The keen ones are getting in the queue, others are not going to bother. How soon we run out of the willing, who knows?
  • @isam can tell us why this latest poll now is actually bad news for Keir Starmer!

    You might have more luck asking him on twitter.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited December 2021
    Ratters said:

    While I doubt we'll quite deliver all boosters by year end, we will be down to demand being the constraint by the end of first week of January.

    Cases will have also likely peaked by that point.

    What are the chances we can hold off significant restrictions for 3 weeks?

    Given how many people are getting it and you can't be jabbed for 30 days, there will also be millions who can't even if they want to.

    A million a day and that will cover all those who want and can be jabbed. But the media will still find some ridiculous edge case.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,792
    Pulpstar said:

    Eabhal said:

    Competition Update:

    Highest Boosters to date: 861,306 (today)
    Nearest estimate: @carnyx (854,217)
    Next nearest: @Richard_Nabavi (896,322)

    Eliminated entries:
    @Endillion 525,600
    @MightyAlex 700,000
    @Cyclefree 723,527
    @Eabhal 825,000

    I'm still in the game. This is fun!
    I really thought it would be a flash in the pan.

    Quite impressed so many young people are coming forward - one of my friends is doing shuttle runs to a max-vaxx centre for people without a car (probably super spreading), and everyone is boasting about how long they queued on insta (3.5 hours at a mosque in Glasgow is the record).
    I'd be surprised if it gets much higher before peaking tbh. Christmas init.
    This sunday WILL be the peak for this round of jabs. Highest day for recording -> Christmas -> New Year -> Demand limitations.
    I reckon 1 million plus tomorrow, one of which will be me.
    I got a text from my doctors today inviting me in for a jab. I was tempted to ignore it - I'd already booked a jab for early Jan and I couldn't imagine what they were going to offer would be much more favourable. But I basically had my choice of timeslots. So will drop middle daughter at tutor, go and get jabbed and be back in time to pick her up.
    If they have cranked up capacity to the extent they can offer me that, I'm expecting a bumper day.
  • @isam can tell us why this latest poll now is actually bad news for Keir Starmer!

    Was Sam not put in the slammer?
  • Lab - 38%
    con - 30%
    Lib dem - 10%
    Greens - 10%

    https://t.co/6jglyXgzhF

    Tories back to 1997.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    I love the notion that Rishi Sunak is back early because he cares deeply for small businesses. Not because Johnson is bleeding out and Truss is on manoeuvres.
    https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/1471952150238539776
  • 320 seats would mean he could govern with the Lib Dems, meaning any attacks of chaos would be irrelevant
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    Leon said:

    Spain finally joins the party.

    33,000 cases, the most in one day since Nightclub Marbella Delta in the summer

    OMICRON THE HISPANOPHOBE

    ? Phile
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,454
    Con on 30% oof.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805

    Lab - 38%
    con - 30%
    Lib dem - 10%
    Greens - 10%

    https://t.co/6jglyXgzhF

    Tories back to 1997.

    The right taking a pummelling.
  • 30% is when you are talking absolute bedrock territory for Tory and Labour.
  • 29% is 1997 so yes the Tories are down to the minimum polling now
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633

    Lab - 38%
    con - 30%
    Lib dem - 10%
    Greens - 10%

    https://t.co/6jglyXgzhF

    Tories back to 1997.

    Are those proper poll figures?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,792
    In other news: I have been out THREE times in the past 24 hours:
    1) last night for the annual Christmas meal with two other sets of parents of middle daughter's peers - to the Portico Library in Manchester. An amazing venue - an old reading room for Victorian industrialists trying to social climb. I urge any North Western PBers to go and take a look.
    2) this morning, to Edale and Mam Tor. An absolutely beautiful morning, with an inversion over the Hope Valley. Then a pub lunch in the OldNags Head.
    3) this evening, to Lightopia in Heaton Park. Amazing and brilliant. Again, urge any North Western pbers, especially with families, to see it - though probably next year now.

    In all cases, what was notable was the feeling if normality. In the outside world, people are keen to keep on living their lives. No sign of people being nervous and fearful. This is not February 2020 all over again. A refreshing antidote to too much time on the internet!
  • Well fancy that:

    "The new head of the charity watchdog quit today before officially taking up his post after The Times uncovered how “inappropriate behaviour” led to his resignation from an aid agency.

    Martin Thomas, 58, a friend of Boris Johnson, was confirmed as chairman of the Charity Commission last week by the culture secretary Nadine Dorries.

    He was due to begin work on December 27 but stepped down after The Times raised questions about his appointment in the wake of his role in a bullying investigation this year when he was chairman of Women For Women International UK."


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/be277850-5f54-11ec-8fac-c70e630faee6?shareToken=d1354bb5aa4cca56ca79d36c4c75853b

    As an aside, why was the chair of Women For Women International UK... a bloke?

    Maybe he identifies as a woman
    Well, according to the Guardian, Martin Thomas did send a picture of himself in a Victoria's Secret to a female employee.

    Maybe GM wanted to her advice before making a purchase, to ensure it really did bring out {fill in pronoun] best?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,134

    @isam can tell us why this latest poll now is actually bad news for Keir Starmer!

    Was Sam not put in the slammer?
    He better come back! - the Starmer GE bet I have with him is trending big in my favour now.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,663

    Pulpstar said:

    Eabhal said:

    Competition Update:

    Highest Boosters to date: 861,306 (today)
    Nearest estimate: @carnyx (854,217)
    Next nearest: @Richard_Nabavi (896,322)

    Eliminated entries:
    @Endillion 525,600
    @MightyAlex 700,000
    @Cyclefree 723,527
    @Eabhal 825,000

    I'm still in the game. This is fun!
    I really thought it would be a flash in the pan.

    Quite impressed so many young people are coming forward - one of my friends is doing shuttle runs to a max-vaxx centre for people without a car (probably super spreading), and everyone is boasting about how long they queued on insta (3.5 hours at a mosque in Glasgow is the record).
    I'd be surprised if it gets much higher before peaking tbh. Christmas init.
    This sunday WILL be the peak for this round of jabs. Highest day for recording -> Christmas -> New Year -> Demand limitations.
    Yes. 1,048,576 jabs I think.
    If that's the peak then there's going to be a lot of people who haven't bothered to get their jab. :(
    Dificulties ramping up delivery is what I hear. A friend who volunteered earlier in the year has re-volunteered but it's taking a time before his services can be used.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,826
    SAGE predicting 3000 hospital cases a day. Last January peaked at about 4000.

    Evidence from South Africa is that fewer would probably need to be ICU as well.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited December 2021

    Well fancy that:

    "The new head of the charity watchdog quit today before officially taking up his post after The Times uncovered how “inappropriate behaviour” led to his resignation from an aid agency.

    Martin Thomas, 58, a friend of Boris Johnson, was confirmed as chairman of the Charity Commission last week by the culture secretary Nadine Dorries.

    He was due to begin work on December 27 but stepped down after The Times raised questions about his appointment in the wake of his role in a bullying investigation this year when he was chairman of Women For Women International UK."


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/be277850-5f54-11ec-8fac-c70e630faee6?shareToken=d1354bb5aa4cca56ca79d36c4c75853b

    As an aside, why was the chair of Women For Women International UK... a bloke?

    Maybe he identifies as a woman
    Well, according to the Guardian, Martin Thomas did send a picture of himself in a Victoria's Secret to a female employee.

    Maybe GM wanted to her advice before making a purchase, to ensure it really did bring out {fill in pronoun] best?
    Shopping in a Victoria Secret full stop should be a sacking offence.
  • pm215pm215 Posts: 1,130


    Dificulties ramping up delivery is what I hear. A friend who volunteered earlier in the year has re-volunteered but it's taking a time before his services can be used.

    Mmm.Several of my friends are in the "would like to get booster but website currently offers no local sites to book into" boat...
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    Cookie said:

    In other news: I have been out THREE times in the past 24 hours:
    1) last night for the annual Christmas meal with two other sets of parents of middle daughter's peers - to the Portico Library in Manchester. An amazing venue - an old reading room for Victorian industrialists trying to social climb. I urge any North Western PBers to go and take a look.
    2) this morning, to Edale and Mam Tor. An absolutely beautiful morning, with an inversion over the Hope Valley. Then a pub lunch in the OldNags Head.
    3) this evening, to Lightopia in Heaton Park. Amazing and brilliant. Again, urge any North Western pbers, especially with families, to see it - though probably next year now.

    In all cases, what was notable was the feeling if normality. In the outside world, people are keen to keep on living their lives. No sign of people being nervous and fearful. This is not February 2020 all over again. A refreshing antidote to too much time on the internet!

    It really doesn't feel like that in London. Here, the Fear has set in

    Which makes sense as London is rampant with Omicron the Boulevardier
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,792

    SAGE predicting 3000 hospital cases a day. Last January peaked at about 4000.

    Evidence from South Africa is that fewer would probably need to be ICU as well.

    Have real hospitalisations ever been anywhere near SAGE models?
  • kinabalu said:

    @isam can tell us why this latest poll now is actually bad news for Keir Starmer!

    Was Sam not put in the slammer?
    He better come back! - the Starmer GE bet I have with him is trending big in my favour now.
    You might have to take that up with Messrs Smithson.
  • BREAKING: Outbreak Management Team recommends "strict lockdown" in the Netherlands to slow the spread of Omicron - RTL
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    BREAKING: Outbreak Management Team recommends "strict lockdown" in the Netherlands to slow the spread of Omicron - RTL

    They've been on curfew for weeks. Now it worsens
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited December 2021
    Leon said:

    BREAKING: Outbreak Management Team recommends "strict lockdown" in the Netherlands to slow the spread of Omicron - RTL

    They've been on curfew for weeks. Now it worsens
    Because Omicron can't be contained, unless you are going to go full China lockdown...only come out your house for the 30mins when the government tell you, floor by floor, block by block.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,792
    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    In other news: I have been out THREE times in the past 24 hours:
    1) last night for the annual Christmas meal with two other sets of parents of middle daughter's peers - to the Portico Library in Manchester. An amazing venue - an old reading room for Victorian industrialists trying to social climb. I urge any North Western PBers to go and take a look.
    2) this morning, to Edale and Mam Tor. An absolutely beautiful morning, with an inversion over the Hope Valley. Then a pub lunch in the OldNags Head.
    3) this evening, to Lightopia in Heaton Park. Amazing and brilliant. Again, urge any North Western pbers, especially with families, to see it - though probably next year now.

    In all cases, what was notable was the feeling if normality. In the outside world, people are keen to keep on living their lives. No sign of people being nervous and fearful. This is not February 2020 all over again. A refreshing antidote to too much time on the internet!

    It really doesn't feel like that in London. Here, the Fear has set in

    Which makes sense as London is rampant with Omicron the Boulevardier
    In fairness, there were fewer people out last night in Manchester than there should have been two Thursdays before Christmas. But it was certainly not 'quiet'.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633
    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    In other news: I have been out THREE times in the past 24 hours:
    1) last night for the annual Christmas meal with two other sets of parents of middle daughter's peers - to the Portico Library in Manchester. An amazing venue - an old reading room for Victorian industrialists trying to social climb. I urge any North Western PBers to go and take a look.
    2) this morning, to Edale and Mam Tor. An absolutely beautiful morning, with an inversion over the Hope Valley. Then a pub lunch in the OldNags Head.
    3) this evening, to Lightopia in Heaton Park. Amazing and brilliant. Again, urge any North Western pbers, especially with families, to see it - though probably next year now.

    In all cases, what was notable was the feeling if normality. In the outside world, people are keen to keep on living their lives. No sign of people being nervous and fearful. This is not February 2020 all over again. A refreshing antidote to too much time on the internet!

    It really doesn't feel like that in London. Here, the Fear has set in

    Which makes sense as London is rampant with Omicron the Boulevardier
    Fox Jr2 had a work do in Earls Court last night, and is having a party for his mates tonight.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,792
    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    In other news: I have been out THREE times in the past 24 hours:
    1) last night for the annual Christmas meal with two other sets of parents of middle daughter's peers - to the Portico Library in Manchester. An amazing venue - an old reading room for Victorian industrialists trying to social climb. I urge any North Western PBers to go and take a look.
    2) this morning, to Edale and Mam Tor. An absolutely beautiful morning, with an inversion over the Hope Valley. Then a pub lunch in the OldNags Head.
    3) this evening, to Lightopia in Heaton Park. Amazing and brilliant. Again, urge any North Western pbers, especially with families, to see it - though probably next year now.

    In all cases, what was notable was the feeling if normality. In the outside world, people are keen to keep on living their lives. No sign of people being nervous and fearful. This is not February 2020 all over again. A refreshing antidote to too much time on the internet!

    It really doesn't feel like that in London. Here, the Fear has set in

    Which makes sense as London is rampant with Omicron the Boulevardier
    In fairness, there were fewer people out last night in Manchester than there should have been two Thursdays before Christmas. But it was certainly not 'quiet'.
    ...and Lightopia just as busy as last year.
  • Lab - 38%
    con - 30%
    Lib dem - 10%
    Greens - 10%

    https://t.co/6jglyXgzhF

    Tories back to 1997.

    Back to 2014: https://web.archive.org/web/20150824163403/https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/03/04/the-conservative-nightmare-we-could-be-seeing-a-voteless-recovery/

    Comres March 2014
    Lab 38%
    Con 30%
    Lib Dem 10%

    Sound familiar?

    SKSICIPMITSWAEICIPM
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859

    BREAKING: Outbreak Management Team recommends "strict lockdown" in the Netherlands to slow the spread of Omicron - RTL

    Are you sure that isn’t the Outbreak Management Group?

  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,523
    Foxy said:

    Lab - 38%
    con - 30%
    Lib dem - 10%
    Greens - 10%

    https://t.co/6jglyXgzhF

    Tories back to 1997.

    Are those proper poll figures?
    Yes, but from Tue/Wed
  • Lab - 38%
    con - 30%
    Lib dem - 10%
    Greens - 10%

    https://t.co/6jglyXgzhF

    Tories back to 1997.

    Back to 2014: https://web.archive.org/web/20150824163403/https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/03/04/the-conservative-nightmare-we-could-be-seeing-a-voteless-recovery/

    Comres March 2014
    Lab 38%
    Con 30%
    Lib Dem 10%

    Sound familiar?

    SKSICIPMITSWAEICIPM
    I don't recall Ed M leading by a large margin on most capable PM and best PM and having ratings far ahead of Johnson's
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859

    Foxy said:

    Lab - 38%
    con - 30%
    Lib dem - 10%
    Greens - 10%

    https://t.co/6jglyXgzhF

    Tories back to 1997.

    Are those proper poll figures?
    Yes, but from Tue/Wed
    To think just recently we were debating whether the Tories would fall behind even once this year.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,986
    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    In other news: I have been out THREE times in the past 24 hours:
    1) last night for the annual Christmas meal with two other sets of parents of middle daughter's peers - to the Portico Library in Manchester. An amazing venue - an old reading room for Victorian industrialists trying to social climb. I urge any North Western PBers to go and take a look.
    2) this morning, to Edale and Mam Tor. An absolutely beautiful morning, with an inversion over the Hope Valley. Then a pub lunch in the OldNags Head.
    3) this evening, to Lightopia in Heaton Park. Amazing and brilliant. Again, urge any North Western pbers, especially with families, to see it - though probably next year now.

    In all cases, what was notable was the feeling if normality. In the outside world, people are keen to keep on living their lives. No sign of people being nervous and fearful. This is not February 2020 all over again. A refreshing antidote to too much time on the internet!

    It really doesn't feel like that in London. Here, the Fear has set in

    Which makes sense as London is rampant with Omicron the Boulevardier
    Yes I agree. London is omicron-paranoid now. But the fear is not FEAR. Few are scared of dying of a terrible affliction. They (like me) are terrified of the dreaded 2 stripes and having to cancel Christmas.

    It’s like we’ve all collectively decided to become hermits for the critical final week.

    I am planning multiple meals out as soon as Boxing day is over and the relatives have headed home, to keep our local hospitality afloat.

    Meanwhile some more Omicron hopium for you all: https://twitter.com/guptar_lab/status/1471941653376253955?s=21

    Increasing scientific basis for the “mild” theory.
  • Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    In other news: I have been out THREE times in the past 24 hours:
    1) last night for the annual Christmas meal with two other sets of parents of middle daughter's peers - to the Portico Library in Manchester. An amazing venue - an old reading room for Victorian industrialists trying to social climb. I urge any North Western PBers to go and take a look.
    2) this morning, to Edale and Mam Tor. An absolutely beautiful morning, with an inversion over the Hope Valley. Then a pub lunch in the OldNags Head.
    3) this evening, to Lightopia in Heaton Park. Amazing and brilliant. Again, urge any North Western pbers, especially with families, to see it - though probably next year now.

    In all cases, what was notable was the feeling if normality. In the outside world, people are keen to keep on living their lives. No sign of people being nervous and fearful. This is not February 2020 all over again. A refreshing antidote to too much time on the internet!

    It really doesn't feel like that in London. Here, the Fear has set in

    Which makes sense as London is rampant with Omicron the Boulevardier
    Here the Fear

    Great name for a rock band! But is Hear the Fear even better?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,931
    Eabhal said:

    Competition Update:

    Highest Boosters to date: 861,306 (today)
    Nearest estimate: @carnyx (854,217)
    Next nearest: @Richard_Nabavi (896,322)

    Eliminated entries:
    @Endillion 525,600
    @MightyAlex 700,000
    @Cyclefree 723,527
    @Eabhal 825,000

    I'm still in the game. This is fun!
    I really thought it would be a flash in the pan.

    Quite impressed so many young people are coming forward - one of my friends is doing shuttle runs to a max-vaxx centre for people without a car (probably super spreading), and everyone is boasting about how long they queued on insta (3.5 hours at a mosque in Glasgow is the record).
    Delighted that the queue is at the mosque. Hope it means that vax wary are getting vaxxed. Now what we need are big queues at Stocky’s local mosque to help the London figures. If I hadn’t been fully vaxxed, I would have queued for a jag at the Glasgow mosque. It’s a building I would love to visit.
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