The passing of the Covid passports are deeply regrettable. They are a tool of surveillance and have no meaningful utility or function in dealing with Covid, particularly as a) the vaccines do not prevent transmission of the virus and b) you can easily fake an LFT result. They are meaningless, but establish a framework for eventually introducing ID cards. The tory MPs were right to rebel against it.
The rebellion means that Johnsons position in his party is ruined. Why did he get himself in this position, for something that won't make any difference? It seems like he has lost his political judgement completely. It is not like he was relying on the opposition votes to do something really difficult and important. Maybe he can bury it and bluster his way back; but it supports the speculation that he doesn't have either wise or smart advisors around him.
The important news today is that I have discovered the existence of a movie called 'Gatwick Gangsters' starring Willie Thorne, Bobby George and Gary Bushell. My life will never be the same again
“Teams in the office should ensure that they arrange themselves behind the perspex screens,” it read, adding: “All staff will be required to leave the office immediately after the end of the quiz."
I mean, if you already been sitting in the office for hours, then you stay for a quiz, I don't think a perspex screen or leaving immediately is going to make much difference to your covid safety....
Betting market for when Covid passes go away? Innocent face
The regulations lapse on 26th Jan...
Sorry, I'll be more serious in future.
In all seriousness, I and presumably other people now operate on the presumption that governments all over the world lie to their people about the most important and invasive policies they advocate.
Says the Leader of the Opposition who is too weak to provide any Opposition.
He apparently thinks that Boris is doing such a great job he'll nod through his laws without any demands, any amendments and without any criticism.
Keir should take a long, hard look at himself and ask himself whether he has the authority to be an Opposition Leader during a pandemic.
It’s quite the thought that if Corbyn was Labour leader still, then BoJo would have lost that vote in a landslide and most likely be out on his arse by the weekend.
Quite disappointing that Starmer didn’t use this power to extract something useful for his support. Free FFP3s for the vulnerable, financial support for hospitality, accelerated plans for ventilation in primary schools, domestication of LTF and PPE supply chains etc etc etc…
I don’t care what Mr Horse Battery says, Starmer is a waste of space and in his own way, as bad as Johnson because he clearly cares more about games than improving the lot of the nation.
A more capable labour leader would have found a way to vote against ensuring a government defeat and probably Boris resignation
No apology required. What I don't understand with people like him is the "I'm alright Jack" attack line which is universally applied to anyone arguing against restrictions. Everybody is vulnerable to this virus, so where does the "I'm alright" element of the claim come from?
Everyone is vulnerable, me more than most. I am 53, have copd, asthma, I am a little overweight though only 15 lbs or so. However I live in a studio apartment so not much space. I haven't seen my gf in 2 years though we speak every day on discord. The restrictions have become worse than the disease as I quietly go mad. And idiots like him want to keep restrictions because they aren't suffering and make flippant remarks about "meeting partners"
I'm sorry things are so difficult and about the health issues, but I don't fully understand. There hasn't been a ban on meeting one other person except in the deepest lockdown. If you've not seen your girlfriend for two years you must have had other reasons, perhaps your or her state of health? I'm not questioning that at all, but the position is unchanged and will remain so under the restrictions just passed - you can see her any time you feel it's sufficiently safe.
Really? Spoilt by the element of bad manners for me.
Contrary to what you were told last night lemons don't come easily off the tree when they are ripe. That's apples. Citrus you are always best to cut off with secateurs. Lemons are ripe when they are big enough to be worth picking. Additional fun fact: citrus turn from green to yellow/orange with a drop in temperature, not as a sign of ripeness. So in the tropics they stay green, and in temperate climates they are capable of turning back to green again come spring.
Re Matt. Bad manners!? It's a joke ffs.
Re Lemons. Thanks but now confused. So our No.s Lemon is, well, lemon-size, and had turned yellow. Are you saying it will turn into a lime in the spring? What would happen if we left it indefinitely? Presumably it would drop off at some point. (I preferred the certainty provided by @Cyclefree's instruction tbh!)
If it's lemon sized and yellow it is ready to rock. I mean, what's the downside, ripeness-wise, with a lemon, given that acidity is its USP anyway? If you leave it indefinitely it will just get tired and floppy, and possibly turn into a green lemon (not a lime, it'll still be a lemon).
Betting market for when Covid passes go away? Innocent face
The regulations lapse on 26th Jan...
Sorry, I'll be more serious in future.
In all seriousness, I and presumably other people now operate on the presumption that governments all over the world lie to their people about the most important and invasive policies they advocate.
It wouldn't work as well if they just said this was about making you forget they had a party. I say a party in singular, but presumably the entirely believably accusations of regular November dos in the prime ministerial flat is the smoking gun they really want to move things on from.
Boris will be deposed if he tries to implement lockdown. Well done actual Tories. You've ended the tyranny of unelected experts.
He's also fucked if he's seen to personally break any restriction from now on.
Nobody in authority seems to have minded so far. Why would that change?
Because his authority and popularity have drained away.
I am convinced neither of those assertions are correct in the medium term. It may look that way now, but by the middle of January?
For that to happen Boris needs a very good winter.
Which means a minimal hit to the UK while European countries get hammered by Delta and Omicron.
Its possible though that does lead to many Conservative MPs then thinking that new restrictions were unnecessary.
Several of the PB Tory Brains Trust have assured me that Omicron is mild and a Delta killer. I hope they are right. Although even if they are correct my biggest fear is that the NHS still falls over under the strain. This is why Johnson is right today and Johnny Public is right behind him.
Says the Leader of the Opposition who is too weak to provide any Opposition.
He apparently thinks that Boris is doing such a great job he'll nod through his laws without any demands, any amendments and without any criticism.
Keir should take a long, hard look at himself and ask himself whether he has the authority to be an Opposition Leader during a pandemic.
It’s quite the thought that if Corbyn was Labour leader still, then BoJo would have lost that vote in a landslide and most likely be out on his arse by the weekend.
Quite disappointing that Starmer didn’t use this power to extract something useful for his support. Free FFP3s for the vulnerable, financial support for hospitality, accelerated plans for ventilation in primary schools, domestication of LTF and PPE supply chains etc etc etc…
I don’t care what Mr Horse Battery says, Starmer is a waste of space and in his own way, as bad as Johnson because he clearly cares more about games than improving the lot of the nation.
Exactly. He should have had a 'price' to extract for his support. Some good suggestions there. Had he said "we will only be able to support this if [key demand here]" and put an amendment down he'd have been able to force the government into a u-turn on something as they'd have needed his votes.
Instead he gave them a blank cheque. Apparently hospitality doesn't need any more support, nor do the vulnerable, or anyone else.
What a farce of an "Opposition" leader. Pathetic. @bigjohnowls was right.
No apology required. What I don't understand with people like him is the "I'm alright Jack" attack line which is universally applied to anyone arguing against restrictions. Everybody is vulnerable to this virus, so where does the "I'm alright" element of the claim come from?
Everyone is vulnerable, me more than most. I am 53, have copd, asthma, I am a little overweight though only 15 lbs or so. However I live in a studio apartment so not much space. I haven't seen my gf in 2 years though we speak every day on discord. The restrictions have become worse than the disease as I quietly go mad. And idiots like him want to keep restrictions because they aren't suffering and make flippant remarks about "meeting partners"
I'm sorry things are so difficult and about the health issues, but I don't fully understand. There hasn't been a ban on meeting one other person except in the deepest lockdown. If you've not seen your girlfriend for two years you must have had other reasons, perhaps your or her state of health? I'm not questioning that at all, but the position is unchanged and will remain so under the restrictions just passed - you can see her any time you feel it's sufficiently safe.
She went back home to australia on a month long visit just before the covid lockdown. Because of the way australia is being she is scared to leave in case she cant just fly back. Her 26 year old son has a heart condition so she decided to stay and I agree with her decision. If she could fly back and forth at will she would have been back
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
They can both be shit you know. It's not like Brexit where if you don't like it, you have to spend 4 years posting utter shite about how great the EU is.
Says the Leader of the Opposition who is too weak to provide any Opposition.
He apparently thinks that Boris is doing such a great job he'll nod through his laws without any demands, any amendments and without any criticism.
Keir should take a long, hard look at himself and ask himself whether he has the authority to be an Opposition Leader during a pandemic.
It’s quite the thought that if Corbyn was Labour leader still, then BoJo would have lost that vote in a landslide and most likely be out on his arse by the weekend.
Quite disappointing that Starmer didn’t use this power to extract something useful for his support. Free FFP3s for the vulnerable, financial support for hospitality, accelerated plans for ventilation in primary schools, domestication of LTF and PPE supply chains etc etc etc…
I don’t care what Mr Horse Battery says, Starmer is a waste of space and in his own way, as bad as Johnson because he clearly cares more about games than improving the lot of the nation.
A more capable labour leader would have found a way to vote against ensuring a government defeat and probably Boris resignation
He really is not very good at the politics
Or maybe he's playing an extra move ahead.
That could either be that he genuinely believes these regulations are needed, and that BoJo is slightly more plugged into reality than any likely successor. I can respect that.
Or that keeping BoJo in place but wounded is in the longer term partisan interest of Labour. I'm not sure that's respectable, but it might be true.
Electoral politics is a long game. Usually. 2015-19 weren't, but that was the problem.
Says the Leader of the Opposition who is too weak to provide any Opposition.
He apparently thinks that Boris is doing such a great job he'll nod through his laws without any demands, any amendments and without any criticism.
Keir should take a long, hard look at himself and ask himself whether he has the authority to be an Opposition Leader during a pandemic.
It’s quite the thought that if Corbyn was Labour leader still, then BoJo would have lost that vote in a landslide and most likely be out on his arse by the weekend.
Quite disappointing that Starmer didn’t use this power to extract something useful for his support. Free FFP3s for the vulnerable, financial support for hospitality, accelerated plans for ventilation in primary schools, domestication of LTF and PPE supply chains etc etc etc…
I don’t care what Mr Horse Battery says, Starmer is a waste of space and in his own way, as bad as Johnson because he clearly cares more about games than improving the lot of the nation.
A more capable labour leader would have found a way to vote against ensuring a government defeat and probably Boris resignation
He really is not very good at the politics
Or maybe he's playing an extra move ahead.
That could either be that he genuinely believes these regulations are needed, and that BoJo is slightly more plugged into reality than any likely successor. I can respect that.
Or that keeping BoJo in place but wounded is in the longer term partisan interest of Labour. I'm not sure that's respectable, but it might be true.
Electoral politics is a long game. Usually. 2015-19 weren't, but that was the problem.
If he's ultimately going to face someone else in the next election, it's in his interest to make his future opponant dip their hand in pitch as soon as possible.
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
Phil is on fire. Not quite up to "Boris is The Rock" narrative from yesterday, but good stuff nonetheless.
And yesterday G, assured me Starmer's speech was dire. I had a look later and thought it was fine. It was supremely statesmanlike compared to the Peppa Pig speech or Johnson's speech from the evening before.
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
They can both be shit you know. It's not like Brexit where if you don't like it, you have to spend 4 years posting utter shite about how great the EU is.
One is perhaps a bit; the other a huge, steaming pile.
Tory parties seem a bit shit if I am honest....glad I don't get invited to any.
Yes, after the promisingly dramatic headline, this was sadly bathetic. Some of the group are shown wearing paper hats while one is sporting a House of Commons Christmas jumper...
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
Phil is on fire. Not quite up to "Boris is The Rock" narrative from yesterday, but good stuff nonetheless.
Tony Blair would never have been so pathetic as Starmer was today.
Starmer could have said he could only pass this if there were more support offered to hospitality [or countless other demands, pick your poison] and he'd have either won a major victory as that support was offered to win his votes, or the government would have been defeated.
Instead he gave them a blank cheque. No demands, nothing.
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
They can both be shit you know. It's not like Brexit where if you don't like it, you have to spend 4 years posting utter shite about how great the EU is.
You clearly haven't nuanced Scott's posts. I suspect like me he has never claimed the EU to be great, just that the alternative of Brexit has proven to be considerably worse
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
Phil is on fire. Not quite up to "Boris is The Rock" narrative from yesterday, but good stuff nonetheless.
Tony Blair would never have been so pathetic as Starmer was today.
Starmer could have said he could only pass this if there were more support offered to hospitality [or countless other demands, pick your poison] and he'd have either won a major victory as that support was offered to win his votes, or the government would have been defeated.
Instead he gave them a blank cheque. No demands, nothing.
That's not a model, that just a ridiculous dumb guess. Your uncertainty in the seed number and the doubling rate are huge, plus no consideration of behavioural change / vaccinations etc.
How much do we pay these idiots for this nonsense? Its like asking Kenny Snr out of Phoenix's Nights what he thinks the number of infections are.
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
You are a thick and partisan mug.
I wrote to my Mp this week imploring him to vote against the measures and then to send in his letter to the 1922. The third time I have asked him to do so in the last year. Despite being on Guido’s list he voted in favour.
It’s possible for me to recognise that both main leaders right now are a diabolical let down for this country.
Tory parties seem a bit shit if I am honest....glad I don't get invited to any.
Yes, after the promisingly dramatic headline, this was sadly bathetic. Some of the group are shown wearing paper hats while one is sporting a House of Commons Christmas jumper...
It’s not ‘100 days of Sodom’ is it?
It’s some young people trying to have slightly forlorn fun in a terrible lonely plague. It won’t shift a vote, it might even backfire, mildly
Boris will be deposed if he tries to implement lockdown. Well done actual Tories. You've ended the tyranny of unelected experts.
He's also fucked if he's seen to personally break any restriction from now on.
Nobody in authority seems to have minded so far. Why would that change?
Because his authority and popularity have drained away.
I am convinced neither of those assertions are correct in the medium term. It may look that way now, but by the middle of January?
For that to happen Boris needs a very good winter.
Which means a minimal hit to the UK while European countries get hammered by Delta and Omicron.
Its possible though that does lead to many Conservative MPs then thinking that new restrictions were unnecessary.
Several of the PB Tory Brains Trust have assured me that Omicron is mild and a Delta killer. I hope they are right. Although even if they are correct my biggest fear is that the NHS still falls over under the strain. This is why Johnson is right today and Johnny Public is right behind him.
There is some interesting data from South Africas biggest insurer in this twitter thread. Decent data rather than anecdata:
This slide shows that there is 29% reduction in risk of admission compared to the original version. Somewhat better, but not great. There is stuff on Pfizer double vax giving 70% protection, so respectable efficacy.
So, week on week growth for London. I'm using figures with a view to getting the most up to date picture of the growth rate:
All London, yesterday, 54% growth (yesterday's incomplete 11/12 figure vs 4/12). Today. 88% growth (today's incomplete 12/12 vs 5/12)
Zone 1, yesterday, 91% growth (11th Vs 4th) today, 138% growth (12th Vs 5th)
I'm using the incomplete figures from very recent days as they are higher than the complete figures already.
138% growth with a 2.5-3 day generation time suggests R of 1.36-1.45, but the growth rate is not fully down to Omicron yet, so that likely to go higher.
Bugs across globe are evolving to eat plastic, study finds https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/dec/14/bugs-across-globe-are-evolving-to-eat-plastic-study-finds … “We found multiple lines of evidence supporting the fact that the global microbiome’s plastic-degrading potential correlates strongly with measurements of environmental plastic pollution – a significant demonstration of how the environment is responding to the pressures we are placing on it,” said Prof Aleksej Zelezniak, at Chalmers University of Technology in Sweden…
So, week on week growth for London. I'm using figures with a view to getting the most up to date picture of the growth rate:
All London, yesterday, 54% growth (yesterday's incomplete 11/12 figure vs 4/12). Today. 88% growth (today's incomplete 12/12 vs 5/12)
Zone 1, yesterday, 91% growth (11th Vs 4th) today, 138% growth (12th Vs 5th)
I'm using the incomplete figures from very recent days as they are higher than the complete figures already.
138% growth with a 2.5-3 day generation time suggests R of 1.36-1.45, but the growth rate is not fully down to Omicron yet, so that likely to go higher.
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
And Starmer had a golden opportunity tonight and he fluffed it
You'd have been the first to accuse him of rampant political opportunism if he'd voted against what seem like sensible measures under the circumstances.
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
Phil is on fire. Not quite up to "Boris is The Rock" narrative from yesterday, but good stuff nonetheless.
Tony Blair would never have been so pathetic as Starmer was today.
Starmer could have said he could only pass this if there were more support offered to hospitality [or countless other demands, pick your poison] and he'd have either won a major victory as that support was offered to win his votes, or the government would have been defeated.
Instead he gave them a blank cheque. No demands, nothing.
What a pathetic loser Starmer is.
Well he won tonight...as did Johnson.
Johnson won, he got his bill through.
What did Starmer win? Did he win an amendment? A concession?
Simply saying "I think Boris is doing a great job, I have nothing better to say, nothing I can improve on this" is not a victory for Starmer.
Remember when the invincible Conservatives were dead certs to go to the electorate early in 2023 to capitalise on their COVID honeymoon driven dominant position? That was way back in...October
Tory parties seem a bit shit if I am honest....glad I don't get invited to any.
Yes, after the promisingly dramatic headline, this was sadly bathetic. Some of the group are shown wearing paper hats while one is sporting a House of Commons Christmas jumper...
It’s not ‘100 days of Sodom’ is it?
It’s some young people trying to have slightly forlorn fun in a terrible lonely plague. It won’t shift a vote, it might even backfire, mildly
The problem is Keir Starmer thinks it will shift votes.
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
And Starmer had a golden opportunity tonight and he fluffed it
You'd have been the first to accuse him of rampant political opportunism if he'd voted against what seem like sensible measures under the circumstances.
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
You are a thick and partisan mug.
I wrote to my Mp this week imploring him to vote against the measures and then to send in his letter to the 1922. The third time I have asked him to do so in the last year. Despite being on Guido’s list he voted in favour.
It’s possible for me to recognise that both main leaders right now are a diabolical let down for this country.
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
And Starmer had a golden opportunity tonight and he fluffed it
You'd have been the first to accuse him of rampant political opportunism if he'd voted against what seem like sensible measures under the circumstances.
Bugs across globe are evolving to eat plastic, study finds https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/dec/14/bugs-across-globe-are-evolving-to-eat-plastic-study-finds … “We found multiple lines of evidence supporting the fact that the global microbiome’s plastic-degrading potential correlates strongly with measurements of environmental plastic pollution – a significant demonstration of how the environment is responding to the pressures we are placing on it,” said Prof Aleksej Zelezniak, at Chalmers University of Technology in Sweden…
Time to dig out my copy of Mutant 59: The Plastic-Eater which I believe was a novelization from the early '70s BBC series Doomwatch.
So I have just done some "Modelling" in the HSA style....So I picked a random number of 150,000 Omicron cases today, a doubling time for 5s and I have calculated that the whole world will have Omicron in the next day....
I bet the idiots working for the HSA fall for pyramid schemes all the time....what I only have to recommend 5 friends....and they have to recommend 5 friends..
Tory parties seem a bit shit if I am honest....glad I don't get invited to any.
Yes, after the promisingly dramatic headline, this was sadly bathetic. Some of the group are shown wearing paper hats while one is sporting a House of Commons Christmas jumper...
It’s not ‘100 days of Sodom’ is it?
It’s some young people trying to have slightly forlorn fun in a terrible lonely plague. It won’t shift a vote, it might even backfire, mildly
The problem is Keir Starmer thinks it will shift votes.
Bugs across globe are evolving to eat plastic, study finds https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/dec/14/bugs-across-globe-are-evolving-to-eat-plastic-study-finds … “We found multiple lines of evidence supporting the fact that the global microbiome’s plastic-degrading potential correlates strongly with measurements of environmental plastic pollution – a significant demonstration of how the environment is responding to the pressures we are placing on it,” said Prof Aleksej Zelezniak, at Chalmers University of Technology in Sweden…
Time to dig out my copy of Mutant 59: The Plastic-Eater which I believe was a novelization from the early '70s BBC series Doomwatch.
PLastic eating microbes also featured in The Andromeda Strain (the novel, anyway; dunno about the film)>
Bugs across globe are evolving to eat plastic, study finds https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/dec/14/bugs-across-globe-are-evolving-to-eat-plastic-study-finds … “We found multiple lines of evidence supporting the fact that the global microbiome’s plastic-degrading potential correlates strongly with measurements of environmental plastic pollution – a significant demonstration of how the environment is responding to the pressures we are placing on it,” said Prof Aleksej Zelezniak, at Chalmers University of Technology in Sweden…
It’s not that surprising. I learned years ago that oil spills get eaten by bacteria. Life is very resourceful. Why was a source of hydrocarbon chains that can form part of your cell walls, or by metabolised down to help make ATP? It’s why I’ve never bought into the idea that plastics will endure for thousands of years. Some might, but anything in water definitely won’t.
What worries me most about the current situation is also future viruses
We had Sars, mers, bird flu etc...no one took precautions particularly and they died out and never affected people mostly. Now we have covid and panic.
What do people think is going to happen when another raises its head even though its more likely to be a do nothing it will fizzle than another covid?
Bugs across globe are evolving to eat plastic, study finds https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/dec/14/bugs-across-globe-are-evolving-to-eat-plastic-study-finds … “We found multiple lines of evidence supporting the fact that the global microbiome’s plastic-degrading potential correlates strongly with measurements of environmental plastic pollution – a significant demonstration of how the environment is responding to the pressures we are placing on it,” said Prof Aleksej Zelezniak, at Chalmers University of Technology in Sweden…
Time to dig out my copy of Mutant 59: The Plastic-Eater which I believe was a novelization from the early '70s BBC series Doomwatch.
PLastic eating microbes also featured in The Andromeda Strain (the novel, anyway; dunno about the film)>
Yep the microbe mutates so it is no longer lethal to humans but eats the seals at he lab. (Do I need to say I mean the plastic seals not the ones with flippers )
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
You are a thick and partisan mug.
I wrote to my Mp this week imploring him to vote against the measures and then to send in his letter to the 1922. The third time I have asked him to do so in the last year. Despite being on Guido’s list he voted in favour.
It’s possible for me to recognise that both main leaders right now are a diabolical let down for this country.
Bugs across globe are evolving to eat plastic, study finds https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/dec/14/bugs-across-globe-are-evolving-to-eat-plastic-study-finds … “We found multiple lines of evidence supporting the fact that the global microbiome’s plastic-degrading potential correlates strongly with measurements of environmental plastic pollution – a significant demonstration of how the environment is responding to the pressures we are placing on it,” said Prof Aleksej Zelezniak, at Chalmers University of Technology in Sweden…
Time to dig out my copy of Mutant 59: The Plastic-Eater which I believe was a novelization from the early '70s BBC series Doomwatch.
Unlikely, I think. Still, it does mean that much of this stuff is likely to biodegrade within a couple of centuries, rather than the tens of thousands of years everyone was talking about.
@RochdalePioneers Any ideas where Duguid was today? Doesn't seem to have voted. Do you know whether he was paired, abstaining, hiding in a freezer?
English regulations, so not relevant to him? SNP seem to have abstained. But I didn't check all votes.
I thought Conservatives often voted even on England only issues?
I think they've improved a little bit to follow the (usually) shining example of the SNP, as in so much else. But it may also, as I note earlier, be to avoid taking sides within the Tories.
Have to admire the fanbois desperate spin tonight.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
You are a thick and partisan mug.
I wrote to my Mp this week imploring him to vote against the measures and then to send in his letter to the 1922. The third time I have asked him to do so in the last year. Despite being on Guido’s list he voted in favour.
It’s possible for me to recognise that both main leaders right now are a diabolical let down for this country.
Which MP?
I won’t embarrass him by saying so but a famous one.
Tory parties seem a bit shit if I am honest....glad I don't get invited to any.
Yes, after the promisingly dramatic headline, this was sadly bathetic. Some of the group are shown wearing paper hats while one is sporting a House of Commons Christmas jumper...
It’s not ‘100 days of Sodom’ is it?
It’s some young people trying to have slightly forlorn fun in a terrible lonely plague. It won’t shift a vote, it might even backfire, mildly
The problem is Keir Starmer thinks it will shift votes.
It already has shifted the polls substantially.
The Tories problems in the polls are entirely self-inflicted IMO. Nothing to do with Starmer.
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I mean, if you already been sitting in the office for hours, then you stay for a quiz, I don't think a perspex screen or leaving immediately is going to make much difference to your covid safety....
He really is not very good at the politics
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/extraordinary-image-shows-raucous-xmas-25699183
Instead he gave them a blank cheque. Apparently hospitality doesn't need any more support, nor do the vulnerable, or anyone else.
What a farce of an "Opposition" leader. Pathetic. @bigjohnowls was right.
“Probably going to win” = >50%
2.7 is 37% chance
That’s a big arb
The conferences ones were *ahem* always interesting.
The Team 2020 ones (for the 2015 GE campaign) really was just for shagging with a bit of campaigning attached.
After BoZo gets his ass handed to him, "Why isn't Starmer any better?"
Bravo lads.
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1470855685416103950/photo/1
That could either be that he genuinely believes these regulations are needed, and that BoJo is slightly more plugged into reality than any likely successor. I can respect that.
Or that keeping BoJo in place but wounded is in the longer term partisan interest of Labour. I'm not sure that's respectable, but it might be true.
Electoral politics is a long game. Usually. 2015-19 weren't, but that was the problem.
And yesterday G, assured me Starmer's speech was dire. I had a look later and thought it was fine. It was supremely statesmanlike compared to the Peppa Pig speech or Johnson's speech from the evening before.
Not sure that's much use otherwise. "Nobodies you never heard of had a party" may not be the killer you think it is.
Though you could probably find Ishmael's 'Boris doing a line off a hooker's arse' photo and somehow Keir will come off worse from it. 😂
Some of the group are shown wearing paper hats while one is sporting a House of Commons Christmas jumper...
Starmer could have said he could only pass this if there were more support offered to hospitality [or countless other demands, pick your poison] and he'd have either won a major victory as that support was offered to win his votes, or the government would have been defeated.
Instead he gave them a blank cheque. No demands, nothing.
What a pathetic loser Starmer is.
BoJo next, honestly how stupid can you be?
Until the recall to vote through Plan C. 🙂
Omicron: We delve into the data - Where the 200k figure came from. Also that wasn't even UK, it was for ENGLAND.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm2wtMgN0wQ
That's not a model, that just a ridiculous dumb guess. Your uncertainty in the seed number and the doubling rate are huge, plus no consideration of behavioural change / vaccinations etc.
How much do we pay these idiots for this nonsense? Its like asking Kenny Snr out of Phoenix's Nights what he thinks the number of infections are.
I wrote to my Mp this week imploring him to vote against the measures and then to send in his letter to the 1922. The third time I have asked him to do so in the last year. Despite being on Guido’s list he voted in favour.
It’s possible for me to recognise that both main leaders right now are a diabolical let down for this country.
It’s some young people trying to have slightly forlorn fun in a terrible lonely plague. It won’t shift a vote, it might even backfire, mildly
https://twitter.com/miamalan/status/1470684351151157252?t=lXJ6l4hEFLN-sLFuHgX_ew&s=19
This slide shows that there is 29% reduction in risk of admission compared to the original version. Somewhat better, but not great. There is stuff on Pfizer double vax giving 70% protection, so respectable efficacy.
All London, yesterday, 54% growth (yesterday's incomplete 11/12 figure vs 4/12).
Today. 88% growth (today's incomplete 12/12 vs 5/12)
Zone 1, yesterday, 91% growth (11th Vs 4th)
today, 138% growth (12th Vs 5th)
I'm using the incomplete figures from very recent days as they are higher than the complete figures already.
138% growth with a 2.5-3 day generation time suggests R of 1.36-1.45, but the growth rate is not fully down to Omicron yet, so that likely to go higher.
Bugs across globe are evolving to eat plastic, study finds
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/dec/14/bugs-across-globe-are-evolving-to-eat-plastic-study-finds
… “We found multiple lines of evidence supporting the fact that the global microbiome’s plastic-degrading potential correlates strongly with measurements of environmental plastic pollution – a significant demonstration of how the environment is responding to the pressures we are placing on it,” said Prof Aleksej Zelezniak, at Chalmers University of Technology in Sweden…
Apsana Begum
Dawn Butler
Emma Lewell-Buck
Clive Lewis
Rebecca Long Bailey
Bell Ribeiro-Addy
Graham Stringer
Plus Jeremy Corbyn.
What did Starmer win? Did he win an amendment? A concession?
Simply saying "I think Boris is doing a great job, I have nothing better to say, nothing I can improve on this" is not a victory for Starmer.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-general-election-could-come-25125758
The "Opposition" leader didn't think it was worth opposing though. 🙄
The speaker announced last week.
https://order-order.com/2021/12/14/labour-bring-out-the-bar-charts-against-libdems-in-north-shropshire/
I wonder if Labour think the Lib Dems are so far in front that they can afford to try to save their deposit.
I bet the idiots working for the HSA fall for pyramid schemes all the time....what I only have to recommend 5 friends....and they have to recommend 5 friends..
Er no...
https://whatson.parliament.uk/commons/2021-12-16/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-help-blair-force-through-his-education-reforms-6106638.html
History rhymes. This is the beginning of the end.
We had Sars, mers, bird flu etc...no one took precautions particularly and they died out and never affected people mostly. Now we have covid and panic.
What do people think is going to happen when another raises its head even though its more likely to be a do nothing it will fizzle than another covid?
https://whatson.parliament.uk/commons/2021-12-15/
PartyGate was a far better story without the pictures.
As it is, the pictures make you pity the No. 10 staffers, not envy them.
Still, it does mean that much of this stuff is likely to biodegrade within a couple of centuries, rather than the tens of thousands of years everyone was talking about.