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  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,596

    Lib Dems ‘most seats without Labour’ tumbling.

    3.8 now. Was 7.6 last night so that’s halved.

    A nice thought, provided we can forget how betting moved towards Remain and Clinton as close of poll approached. The only conclusion to reach is that whatever is driving these last minute bets, it sure isn’t insight or inside knowledge.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,320
    Which broadcaster do we think will have the best coverage?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,649

    ydoethur said:

    Shocking stat.

    In the twentieth century, just four party leaders who were not Conservatives (Unionists until 1925) or allied to the Conservatives won overall majorities in general elections.

    Campbell-Bannerman in 1906.
    Attlee in 1945 and 1950.
    Wilson in 1964, 1966 and October 1974
    Blair in 1997.

    Could Starmer be about to take us 50% of the way to that total in a little over half the time?

    You've confused me.
    50% - Starmer and Blair winning majorities.
    A little over half the time - 24 is 53% of 45.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 16,965

    I have just heard that several people I know are voting Reform. The last people I would have expected to. Fuck me.

    Anecdote. No-one I know is voting Reform. I do accept they must exist, although I don't expect to meet them.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860

    murali_s said:

    Evening folks - my betting position is that Tories cannot be under 100 seats. Am I in trouble?

    And if they go below 100, are you losing more money than you can afford to lose? If so, then yes. If not, then no.

    That's betting - enjoy the wins and it's fine to be a bit exposed, just not over-exposed.
    Yep. The cardinal rule of gambling: never ever bet more than you can afford to lose.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,650

    I've gone to Dishoom for a Ruby Murray and a Kingfisher.

    Better than waiting.

    Hang on - weren't you concerned about arse-spraying mayhem earlier?

    Is that a good idea?
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,601

    Question. The Tea Time Surge.

    How much of this will get picked up by the Exit Poll? I know that they had data by 2pm. But it surely would be problematic to not continue to sample through the day...?

    Sampling DOES take place all day up towards poll closing time.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 17,455

    Question. The Tea Time Surge.

    How much of this will get picked up by the Exit Poll? I know that they had data by 2pm. But it surely would be problematic to not continue to sample through the day...?

    They gather data until 10pm, but the first numbers they publish obviously don't include the data from the latter hours, so they update it later, and then update it with the first results too.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 2,981

    Cicero said:

    Lib Dems ‘most seats without Labour’ tumbling.

    3.8 now. Was 7.6 last night so that’s halved.

    Could it be the Lib Dems that are moving, not Reform? Nick Palmer seems to be excepting a Lib Dem victory on his patch, which we was not doing before...
    Are there any value Lib Dem constituencies on Betfair Exchange?

    I’m stake limited at most bookies… and I think the value on the GB-wide lines isn’t as good?
    Nothing that sets the heather on fire,
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,227

    So as we move into the last hours of the Con government, I can't help but think how disappointing it has been. Love them or loathe them but Thatcher and Blair transformed the UK.

    This iteration of the Cons have not achieved that much, if you think about it. For me, the problem has been the rotating cast of PMs and cabinet ministers, which has led to constant change. Great for the political journos but this has led to a loss of focus and long-term planning.

    Events have been more powerful than politicians for the last 15 years.

    Either severe but short term such as GFC, Covid, Ukraine or long term but inexorable such as globalisation, changing demographics and environment/energy.

    As they have been in most countries.
  • Nunu5Nunu5 Posts: 954
    Omnium said:

    50 to 99 seats now clear favourite and tightening.

    I think this is the political betting (as opposed to Political Betting) crazy hour. People think they know stuff and almost certainly they don't.
    Memories back to Remain rallying before 10pm
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,813

    Question. The Tea Time Surge.

    How much of this will get picked up by the Exit Poll? I know that they had data by 2pm. But it surely would be problematic to not continue to sample through the day...?

    Hard to say, but the exit poll has been reliable before, and *IF* there's a post-work rush I doubt that this is the first time it's happened.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,649
    edited July 4
    FF43 said:

    I have just heard that several people I know are voting Reform. The last people I would have expected to. Fuck me.

    Anecdote. No-one I know is voting Reform. I do accept they must exist, although I don't expect to meet them.
    I saw a Reform poster today in Halfpenny Green near Wombourne.

    That's the only sign of life from them around here.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,362

    So how bad is it for Rishi?

    ...
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 5,636

    rcs1000 said:

    I have just heard that several people I know are voting Reform. The last people I would have expected to. Fuck me.

    If they are in South East, they may cause me to lose on my sell LD seat bet too :disappointed:
    Croydon South
    Mornington Crescent.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,018
    Just to cheer everyone up, here are the borrowing figures for the year-ending March. Basically no change in the last three years with it being around the same level as the 2012-13 period.

    I know the economy is larger now, so it's perhaps not quite so pressing to get it down, but ultimately it just means more of our taxes get spent on debt in the future.


  • ManOfGwentManOfGwent Posts: 52
    ydoethur said:

    Shocking stat.

    In the twentieth century, just four party leaders who were not Conservatives (Unionists until 1925) or allied to the Conservatives won overall majorities in general elections.

    Campbell-Bannerman in 1906.
    Attlee in 1945 and 1950.
    Wilson in 1964, 1966 and October 1974
    Blair in 1997.

    Could Starmer be about to take us 50% of the way to that total in a little over half the time?

    Just the second leader of the Labour party to win a general election who was born after the first world war.
  • Nunu5Nunu5 Posts: 954
    Is this meant to make things better......


    ......President Biden told Democratic governors that he plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m. so he can get more sleep, sources say
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,500

    JACK_W said:

    Great to see Richard Nabavi and John O on election day. :smile:

    Jeepers, who left the crypt doors open?
    I thought we might get an update of the Autoregression Remarkable Seat Enlightenment - or whatever it stood for.
  • CleitophonCleitophon Posts: 465
    RobD said:

    I am in Italy for a conference. Any ideas for a live web broadcast I can follow?

    Google "sky news live".
    It is normally blocked, but I am using my work VPN 😀😀😀😀 me, hotel room, election ... brilliant.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,527
    Colour me naive but since the electoral franchise was widened to include people with jobs hasn't there always been a "post-work surge". I mean, it's logical. I appreciate I am impossibly gauche for observing this but I thought it worth throwing out there.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    Nunu5 said:

    Omnium said:

    50 to 99 seats now clear favourite and tightening.

    I think this is the political betting (as opposed to Political Betting) crazy hour. People think they know stuff and almost certainly they don't.
    Memories back to Remain rallying before 10pm
    At this stage markets are no guide imo
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 17,455

    Venison sausage casserole for tea with a fine Australian Black Stump Shiraz

    I tried to buy sausage rolls from one of the bakeries in town for my Election night snacks, but they only had chickpea rolls, which I duly purchased.

    This is clearly A Sign. Sell Reform!
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,251
    biggles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I have just heard that several people I know are voting Reform. The last people I would have expected to. Fuck me.

    If they are in South East, they may cause me to lose on my sell LD seat bet too :disappointed:
    Croydon South
    Mornington Crescent.
    Excellent, Biggles.

    You have obviously played before.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,762
    edited July 4
    Scott_xP said:

    Leon said:

    It'a shame he's a bit gnome-like in appearance, he'd probably have made a better prime minister than any of them - Cameron, Boris. TMay, Truss, Sunak. they could have had Gove all that time and they'd now be looking at a fifth term in office



    Take Back Control

    No You fucking take it!

    You touched it last...
    Yep, when they knew they’d shat the bed.
  • Nunu5Nunu5 Posts: 954
    Scott_xP said:

    So how bad is it for Rishi?

    ...
    Fall of Sevenoaks
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,162
    I remember the hour before the GE2017 exit poll when everyone was saying all the signs were Theresa May had won a stonking majority.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,601
    One hour to go. Here's the Pubman Projection:

    LAB 400
    CON 150
    LD 50
    SNP 25
    Others 25 so basically a handful for PC GRN REF given 18 NI is included with these

    DYOR :smile:
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,077
    Farooq said:

    Guys... I'm hearing news that's truly shocking :disappointed:

    Erm elaborate?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,162

    I've gone to Dishoom for a Ruby Murray and a Kingfisher.

    Better than waiting.

    Hang on - weren't you concerned about arse-spraying mayhem earlier?

    Is that a good idea?
    Sometimes, you've just got to double-down.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,284

    I've gone to Dishoom for a Ruby Murray and a Kingfisher.

    Better than waiting.

    Not a combination likely to reduce your chances of shatting yourself.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 21,480

    Which broadcaster do we think will have the best coverage?

    Based on past years, Sky, and they go advert-free tonight.

    But Sky have gone downhill in recent years so who knows?
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,601

    I remember the hour before the GE2017 exit poll when everyone was saying all the signs were Theresa May had won a stonking majority.

    There's ALWAYS a surprise in the Exit Poll

    Or will it be a SHOCK?
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,320
    I hope you make a load of money tonight @Casino_Royale
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,103
    ONE HOUR TO SAVE THE TORY PARTY!!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,576

    Which broadcaster do we think will have the best coverage?

    Based on past years, Sky, and they go advert-free tonight.

    But Sky have gone downhill in recent years so who knows?
    Gotta stick with BBC for the bongs at the very least.
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,077
    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Guys... I'm hearing news that's truly shocking :disappointed:

    Aldi were selling law edging shears for £11.99 but I'm hearing rumours they're sold out
    You naughty person! I had sudden visions of Reform on 40% :smiley:
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,759

    I remember the hour before the GE2017 exit poll when everyone was saying all the signs were Theresa May had won a stonking majority.

    There's ALWAYS a surprise in the Exit Poll

    Or will it be a SHOCK?
    The pollsters had the Tories 2-9% ahead. The 2% was right.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 5,636

    biggles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I have just heard that several people I know are voting Reform. The last people I would have expected to. Fuck me.

    If they are in South East, they may cause me to lose on my sell LD seat bet too :disappointed:
    Croydon South
    Mornington Crescent.
    Excellent, Biggles.

    You have obviously played before.
    The trick was in realising we were playing under Whitehall rules, with the Islington expansion in play.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,527
    Another observation. I have a reasonably average sized friendship group and I don't know (although I can guess in most cases) how any of them are voting. It strikes me as weird the number of people on internet message boards whose friends breathlessly tell them exactly what they are going to plump for in the privacy of the voting booth. Maybe my acquaintances are unusually reticent with me.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860

    biggles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I have just heard that several people I know are voting Reform. The last people I would have expected to. Fuck me.

    If they are in South East, they may cause me to lose on my sell LD seat bet too :disappointed:
    Croydon South
    Mornington Crescent.
    Excellent, Biggles.

    You have obviously played before.
    Pff, a fairly obvious reverse Vilnius there. Amateur hour.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 16,910
    edited July 4
    Farooq said:

    Heathener said:

    Farooq said:

    Guys... I'm hearing news that's truly shocking :disappointed:

    Erm elaborate?
    I'm just an arsehole who's waiting for the exit poll.
    First four words suffice… :D
  • I've gone to Dishoom for a Ruby Murray and a Kingfisher.

    Better than waiting.

    Hang on - weren't you concerned about arse-spraying mayhem earlier?

    Is that a good idea?
    Sometimes, you've just got to double-down.
    Do not do things by half. Go the full way!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 68,784
    I'd forgotten just how good Jaws was.
    "1100 men went into the water..."

    That's my election night viewing almost done - off to bed as soon the exit poll is out.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,103

    I've gone to Dishoom for a Ruby Murray and a Kingfisher.

    Better than waiting.

    Hmmm... Dishoom... Over-rated IMHO :lol:
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,596

    Sean_F said:

    So as we move into the last hours of the Con government, I can't help but think how disappointing it has been. Love them or loathe them but Thatcher and Blair transformed the UK.

    This iteration of the Cons have not achieved that much, if you think about it. For me, the problem has been the rotating cast of PMs and cabinet ministers, which has led to constant change. Great for the political journos but this has led to a loss of focus and long-term planning.

    Maybe the last hours of the Conservative Party.
    That's an exaggeration. Less than 50 MPs seems highly unlikely. The Liberals didn't disappear after 1922.
    It was the beginning of the end, the end coming in the 30s and the resurrection not until 1962 - or in any numbers 1997. If the Tories are happy to wait 75 years, that’s OK with me.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,227
    SteveS said:

    So as we move into the last hours of the Con government, I can't help but think how disappointing it has been. Love them or loathe them but Thatcher and Blair transformed the UK.

    This iteration of the Cons have not achieved that much, if you think about it. For me, the problem has been the rotating cast of PMs and cabinet ministers, which has led to constant change. Great for the political journos but this has led to a loss of focus and long-term planning.

    I think it was the purge of half the party post Brexit. A party that can include Hammond, Saj, Gauke, even Rory Stewart is a very different proposition to the current party.

    But post election I suspect the Conservatives will go right not centre.

    Quick q, but who is the most One Nation Tory likely to be eligible for the upcoming leadership race?
    By half the party you mean about eight MPs ?

    And are you aware that Saj was appointed Chancellor and then Health Sec by Boris ?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,759
    Imagine if it’s like the last Euro election, and the Conservatives fall to 9%.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 5,636
    edited July 4
    DougSeal said:

    Another observation. I have a reasonably average sized friendship group and I don't know (although I can guess in most cases) how any of them are voting. It strikes me as weird the number of people on internet message boards whose friends breathlessly tell them exactly what they are going to plump for in the privacy of the voting booth. Maybe my acquaintances are unusually reticent with me.

    No, I’m the same. I never tell anyone and most of my friends won’t. I can guess, but that’s all. But then I was brought up with my parents not telling each or their kids; and to think asking was rude, and so was my wife. We don’t tell each other either.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,813

    So how bad is it for Rishi?

    Like the fall of Singapore.
    That good?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,103
    Sean_F said:

    Imagine if it’s like the last Euro election, and the Conservatives fall to 9%.

    The pessimism is strong with this one!
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,527

    I remember the hour before the GE2017 exit poll when everyone was saying all the signs were Theresa May had won a stonking majority.

    All the signs except the ones published by Survation, who had a good election in 2017 IIRC.
  • One hour to go. Here's the Pubman Projection:

    LAB 400
    CON 150
    LD 50
    SNP 25
    Others 25 so basically a handful for PC GRN REF given 18 NI is included with these

    DYOR :smile:

    Yes. Or the Tories are fucked. I believe your numbers are good! Lib Dems could get to 62 though.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 9,998

    I hope you make a load of money tonight @Casino_Royale

    He'll need it to pay the extra taxes.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,596
    edited July 4
    Foxy said:

    Message from my lifelong Tory uncle on IoW

    "looking forward to a big win for Sunak tonight"

    Word on the street here is a comfortable Labour win in West and East too close to call Labour v Tory. The Green/primary campaign has done well in Ventnor and Ryde but made less impact around the Bay Area. My money is on Tory hold for East with a decent Reform showing.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,759
    DougSeal said:

    Another observation. I have a reasonably average sized friendship group and I don't know (although I can guess in most cases) how any of them are voting. It strikes me as weird the number of people on internet message boards whose friends breathlessly tell them exactly what they are going to plump for in the privacy of the voting booth. Maybe my acquaintances are unusually reticent with me.

    I don’t even know how my wife voted.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,553
    DougSeal said:

    I remember the hour before the GE2017 exit poll when everyone was saying all the signs were Theresa May had won a stonking majority.

    All the signs except the ones published by Survation, who had a good election in 2017 IIRC.
    Don't forget the YouGov MRP which also flagged up a hung parliament.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,103
    pigeon said:

    So how bad is it for Rishi?

    Like the fall of Singapore.
    That good?
    Singapore or Yorktown?
  • booksellerbookseller Posts: 504

    Andy Murray and bro Jamie out of the Men’s Doubles.

    I've seen some cringe things in my time by this Andy Murray tribute by the BBC is another level. And having everything done to some sort of choir-set version of Creep by Radiohead? Bizarre.
  • ajbajb Posts: 141
    Chaminder Jayanetti has made an election day quiz, for those bored of waiting:

    https://twitter.com/cjayanetti/status/1808919759553257925

    It's pretty obscure TBH
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,596

    English Sparkling Wine is in the fridge

    It’s tough, isn’t it. I have a nice 12-y-o Amontillado in the fridge, and I thought I’d try a small glass after dinner. But it quickly dawned on me that there would be a balance between alcohol and all night endurance, and it went back in the fridge.
  • Nunu5Nunu5 Posts: 954
    If there's any ramping of Tory chances before the exit polls come out, just remember the London Mayorals election, and many of cchq are apparently experienced bettors.....
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 16,965
    DougSeal said:

    Colour me naive but since the electoral franchise was widened to include people with jobs hasn't there always been a "post-work surge". I mean, it's logical. I appreciate I am impossibly gauche for observing this but I thought it worth throwing out there.

    I voted at lunchtime, when voting at my polling place wasn't "brisk". I was able to do this because I was WFH, which wouldn't have been possible pre-Covid.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,813

    DougSeal said:

    I remember the hour before the GE2017 exit poll when everyone was saying all the signs were Theresa May had won a stonking majority.

    All the signs except the ones published by Survation, who had a good election in 2017 IIRC.
    Don't forget the YouGov MRP which also flagged up a hung parliament.
    And this time absolutely no-one is forecasting anything other than a heavy defeat for the Government. It's all just a matter of scale.
  • SteveSSteveS Posts: 153
    Omnium said:

    JACK_W said:

    Great to see Richard Nabavi and John O on election day. :smile:

    Jeepers, who left the crypt doors open?
    I thought we might get an update of the Autoregression Remarkable Seat Enlightenment - or whatever it stood for.
    Jack’s ARSE was always thought provoking if not always enlightening

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,596
    edited July 4

    So how bad is it for Rishi?

    Like the fall of Singapore.
    But Without the sterling defence on the seaward side?
  • ChristopherChristopher Posts: 91

    One hour to go. Here's the Pubman Projection:

    LAB 400
    CON 150
    LD 50
    SNP 25
    Others 25 so basically a handful for PC GRN REF given 18 NI is included with these

    DYOR :smile:

    Yes. Or the Tories are fucked. I believe your numbers are good! Lib Dems could get to 62 though.
    You could make a fortune betting on that.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 21,886
    ohnotnow said:

    English Sparkling Wine is in the fridge

    Is this code?
    He's still looking for some from Scotland?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,101

    pigeon said:

    So how bad is it for Rishi?

    Like the fall of Singapore.
    That good?
    Singapore or Yorktown?
    The retreat from Kabul
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 7,852
    Heathener said:

    So as we move into the last hours of the Con government, I can't help but think how disappointing it has been. Love them or loathe them but Thatcher and Blair transformed the UK.

    They did


    This iteration of the Cons have not achieved that much, if you think about it.

    Indeed. Brexit is what they ‘achieved’ and that’s about it.
    Plus getting us through Covid and helping Ukraine survive until the cavalry turned up

    Entirely defensive, and it’s been bad luck, but those are huge accomplishments that took vast energy and resources

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,596
    Cicero said:

    Lib Dems ‘most seats without Labour’ tumbling.

    3.8 now. Was 7.6 last night so that’s halved.

    Could it be the Lib Dems that are moving, not Reform? Nick Palmer seems to be expecting a Lib Dem victory on his patch, which he was not doing before...
    Oh, I rather suspect he was.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 68,784
    What a surprise - it's Putin's plan.

    Putin says he supports Trump's plan to end the war in Ukraine..
    https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1808892745995477389
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,590

    I remember the hour before the GE2017 exit poll when everyone was saying all the signs were Theresa May had won a stonking majority.

    Sunil still claims she did
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,759

    pigeon said:

    So how bad is it for Rishi?

    Like the fall of Singapore.
    That good?
    Singapore or Yorktown?
    The retreat from Kabul
    Sunak is about as competent as Elphinstone.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 61,481

    So how bad is it for Rishi?

    Doubt he'll care too much once the private jet touches down at an airport near Stanford, CA and the new life can begin.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 16,910

    Andy Murray and bro Jamie out of the Men’s Doubles.

    I've seen some cringe things in my time by this Andy Murray tribute by the BBC is another level. And having everything done to some sort of choir-set version of Creep by Radiohead? Bizarre.
    Yep, it’s a bit much. Will seven time grand slam winner Jamie get the same treatment?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,231
    Nunu5 said:

    Omnium said:

    50 to 99 seats now clear favourite and tightening.

    I think this is the political betting (as opposed to Political Betting) crazy hour. People think they know stuff and almost certainly they don't.
    Memories back to Remain rallying before 10pm
    To be fair, Nigel Farage conceded defeat just before the polls closed, which might have an effect.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,500

    pigeon said:

    So how bad is it for Rishi?

    Like the fall of Singapore.
    That good?
    Singapore or Yorktown?
    I'm surprised, Sunil, that you haven't rolled out your trademark poster one more, and last, time!
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,032

    Cookie said:

    One image of the day: my view on the way to the polling station. @ManchesterKurt may know where I am!

    You are abut 300m from my house, go over the bridge, houses on the right after the offices opposite Waverley Rd.

    You would probably recognise me.

    I don't own a car and walk Dane Rd a lot on my way to Chorlton Golf Club, always wearing shorts, normally a bucket hat or sometimes a Santa Hat, no matter what the time of year.
    Fairly sure I know exactly who you are. I remember seeing someone walking past frequently after lockdown eaed pulling a golf trolley. I admired the le gth of walk to Sale GC - then cycled past this person crossing Jackson's Bridge and relaised he must play at Chorlton.
    Next time I see this person pass I will chance a greeting.
  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,174

    Scott_xP said:

    Leon said:

    It'a shame he's a bit gnome-like in appearance, he'd probably have made a better prime minister than any of them - Cameron, Boris. TMay, Truss, Sunak. they could have had Gove all that time and they'd now be looking at a fifth term in office



    Take Back Control

    No You fucking take it!

    You touched it last...
    Yep, when they knew they’d shat the bed.
    Wonder what Scott is going to do with this time now his supply of anti-Tory tweets will likely dry up somewhat
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,759
    Actually on checking, several eve of polls in 2017 gave the Tories double-digit leads. Survation had the lead at 1%.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,231
    Nigelb said:

    What a surprise - it's Putin's plan.

    Putin says he supports Trump's plan to end the war in Ukraine..
    https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1808892745995477389

    Is Trump's plan that Ukraine surrenders?
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,320

    Sean_F said:

    DougSeal said:

    Another observation. I have a reasonably average sized friendship group and I don't know (although I can guess in most cases) how any of them are voting. It strikes me as weird the number of people on internet message boards whose friends breathlessly tell them exactly what they are going to plump for in the privacy of the voting booth. Maybe my acquaintances are unusually reticent with me.

    I don’t even know how my wife voted.
    My other half has voted Labour, she's a life long socialist.

    She's not keen on Starmer and she was thinking of voting Green but then she asked why I was a Tory.

    I replied 'Because taxes are like your knickers, I always want to see them lower.'

    Her reply was unprintable but said she's voting Labour now.
    Thank you for your service
  • MattWMattW Posts: 21,886
    Pheasant Update.

    Nearly here.

    I'm now thinking that I have enough pressed council slabs on my patio to function as political graves for the entire Generation Sunk cabinet.

    Being an Alte Blogger, I am thinking about doing the "Where the Hell is Matt?" dance on every single one. Tread the earth down.

    https://youtu.be/zlfKdbWwruY?t=30
  • TazTaz Posts: 13,625
    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Guys... I'm hearing news that's truly shocking :disappointed:

    Aldi were selling lawn edging shears for £11.99 but I'm hearing rumours they're sold out
    Still plenty of Fire Extinguishers and Paddleboards in the middle aisle though.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,231
    edited July 4
    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    One image of the day: my view on the way to the polling station. @ManchesterKurt may know where I am!

    You are abut 300m from my house, go over the bridge, houses on the right after the offices opposite Waverley Rd.

    You would probably recognise me.

    I don't own a car and walk Dane Rd a lot on my way to Chorlton Golf Club, always wearing shorts, normally a bucket hat or sometimes a Santa Hat, no matter what the time of year.
    Fairly sure I know exactly who you are. I remember seeing someone walking past frequently after lockdown eaed pulling a golf trolley. I admired the le gth of walk to Sale GC - then cycled past this person crossing Jackson's Bridge and relaised he must play at Chorlton.
    Next time I see this person pass I will chance a greeting.
    Do you think that wise?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,555

    rcs1000 said:

    I've sold turnout at 63.25 too.

    A mistake, I think, though I'm just extrapolating from Didcot and Wantage. The poll here is generally agreed to have been much higher than recent years, and on paper it's a safe Tory seat. There was zero Tory campaign, near-zero Reform campaign (the area voted heavily against leaving the EU), only a sketchy Labour effort and a LibDem campaign based on leaflets (admittedly in huge numbers) rather than canvassing - many polling stations had no political representatives at all.

    I think it's either a big LibDem majority or a last-minute Tory recovery, and on the whole the former seems more likely.
    I tend to agree with Casino. So many 'safe' seats are in play now that there's more incentive for people of all sides to come out on vote unless you're in a safe Labour seat.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,103
    Omnium said:

    JACK_W said:

    Great to see Richard Nabavi and John O on election day. :smile:

    Jeepers, who left the crypt doors open?
    I thought we might get an update of the Autoregression Remarkable Seat Enlightenment - or whatever it stood for.
    Assorted Random Selection of Electors.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,969
    Wonder if BBC corridors will be littered with champagne bottles and party poppers tonight, like in 1997? 😂
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,051

    Andy Murray and bro Jamie out of the Men’s Doubles.

    I've seen some cringe things in my time by this Andy Murray tribute by the BBC is another level. And having everything done to some sort of choir-set version of Creep by Radiohead? Bizarre.
    He’s got more games scheduled too, both at this Wimbledon and at the Olympics.

    Are we filling in ti me or what?
  • TazTaz Posts: 13,625
    IanB2 said:

    English Sparkling Wine is in the fridge

    It’s tough, isn’t it. I have a nice 12-y-o Amontillado in the fridge, and I thought I’d try a small glass after dinner. But it quickly dawned on me that there would be a balance between alcohol and all night endurance, and it went back in the fridge.
    A handful of whiskey miniatures. First one to be opened at 10 PM
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,032
    rcs1000 said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    One image of the day: my view on the way to the polling station. @ManchesterKurt may know where I am!

    You are abut 300m from my house, go over the bridge, houses on the right after the offices opposite Waverley Rd.

    You would probably recognise me.

    I don't own a car and walk Dane Rd a lot on my way to Chorlton Golf Club, always wearing shorts, normally a bucket hat or sometimes a Santa Hat, no matter what the time of year.
    Fairly sure I know exactly who you are. I remember seeing someone walking past frequently after lockdown eaed pulling a golf trolley. I admired the le gth of walk to Sale GC - then cycled past this person crossing Jackson's Bridge and relaised he must play at Chorlton.
    Next time I see this person pass I will chance a greeting.
    Do you think that wise?
    Worth a shot. I think based on previous hints I thought the person I have in mind was Kurt - the shorts and bucket hat confirms it. Possibly.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,103
    Omnium said:

    pigeon said:

    So how bad is it for Rishi?

    Like the fall of Singapore.
    That good?
    Singapore or Yorktown?
    I'm surprised, Sunil, that you haven't rolled out your trademark poster one more, and last, time!
    I did this morning!
  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,174
    Anyway in the interests of transparency, thought I would share my election bets:

    June bets

    Boston Reform 2 to 1 £15
    Ashfield Reform 9 to 4 £10
    South Holland Reform 16 to 1 £10
    Amber Valley Reform 33 to 1 £5
    Maidenhead LD 5 to 2 £5
    Tewkesbury LD 7 to 1 £5
    Isle of Wight E Reform 66/1 £2

    Feeling good about the LD bets. Think Amber Valley is a loser but the others could have a chance.

    July bets following final YouGov MRP

    ANME SNP 6 to 5 £5
    Great Yarmouth Reform 7 to 4 £5
    Maidstone Con 7 to 4 £5
    Melksham LD 7 to 4 £5
    Mid Leics Lab 4 to 5 £5
    N Beds Con 7 to 4 £5
    N Dorset LD 12 to 1 £5
    NE Hants LD 7 to 1 £5
    Runnymede LD 12 to 1 £5
    Sutton Coldfield Con 1 to 1 £5
    Waveney V Con 13 to 8 £5
    Wells LD 4 to 11 £5
    Folkstone Reform 9 to 1 £3
    Harrow E Con 10 to 3 £3
    Newton Abbott Con 6 to 1 £3
    Poole Con 9 to 4 £3
    Tiverton LD 4 to 5 £3
    Gainsborough Con 11 to 10 £2
    Romford Con 2 to 1 £2
  • ManchesterKurtManchesterKurt Posts: 916
    What are GB News showing this evening ?
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