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Now then. Now then!BatteryCorrectHorse said:
The Tories said SKS failed to prosecute Jimmy Saville.JosiasJessop said:
That's crass and shit.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Official Labour Party poster.
But it's also politics.
I look forward to Labour being treated similarly.1 -
I’ve had my picture for the day but, y’know, that picture of Miliband wrestling with a bacon sarnie springs to mind.JosiasJessop said:
That's crass and shit.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Official Labour Party poster.
But it's also politics.
I look forward to Labour being treated similarly.0 -
I prefer Geschatsfueher ; it's sounds like the honorary position that would be occupied by Trump as "Baron von Schitzinpants", per Michael Cohen.FeersumEnjineeya said:
The word you were trying to articulate is Geschäftsführer, or Geschaeftsfuehrer if you don't have access to umlauts.Alanbrooke said:
Ever the middle managers call. Senior management dont worry about it.FeersumEnjineeya said:
Your German spelling certainly seems to be on a par with your English spelling.Alanbrooke said:
Given I was Geschatsfueher in Germany for five years, speak fluent German, read the German press every day and am currently working in Germany. I suspect I have a better feel for the place than you. But dont let that stop you.DougSeal said:
You do realise that those pesky furriners with their stinky ways have things called “newspapers” that have views independent of their governments don’t you? Or do you think we are too important for others to make comment on us?Alanbrooke said:
Brave for a country which has just downgraded all its economic forecasts.northern_monkey said:@AlexTaylorNews
2 leading German papers on the UK election today
"What have Brexit and Voldemort got in common ? People find them awful but their name must never be spoken"
Die Zeit↙️
"Brexit has become taboo, which, given the problems the country faces, is grotesque"
Handelsblatt (🇩🇪 FT) ↘️1 -
It’s like the people who constantly forecast recessions and economic crashes. They revel in what they get right and forget all those they don’t.EPG said:
But, we were also told that the Labour vote was collapsing among tradesmen and midwives over private school fees. So multiple big calls in opposite directions, and one proves right.Anabobazina said:It seems like incredibly old news now but worth noting that the debate had no effect on VI and the 2K Lie might actually have depressed the Tory score somewhat. Just caught up with Question Time and it was very bad indeed on the 2K Lie for the Tories. Any short term gain they might have got from 'landing' it on the night rapidly unravelled, and backfired.
Another big call @MoonRabbit got right. Kudos to her.1 -
So, the Tories probably reached their most recent polling average peak around Easter 2023, and have been in a remarkably steady decline since then?NickyBreakspear said:My weekly average polling graph.
With YouGov changing their methodology, I am using the numbers provided by YouGov on their old methodology so that I have a consistent and comparable set of data. Similarly I am not incorporating other polling companies, of which there are many.
This average does not try and predict the result, rather than provide a comparable tracked data.
This weeks figures
C 21.8% (-0.9)
L 45.0% (-0.3)
LD 9.5% (+0.3)
SNP 2.5% (-0.2)
G 5.0% (-0.5)
RUK 13.3% (+1.5)
Pre D-Daygate of course.
Conservatives still above the lowest of 21.3% during the Truss epoch.0 -
I have long believed that to be the case. It is also true that if Corbyn had not been leader of Labour in 2016 the referendum would have probably gone the other way.BatteryCorrectHorse said:I really do think we should accept that if Jezza had not stood in 2019, the Tories would not have won.
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So far looking like pretty full slates for Con, Lab, LD, Green, Reform. Reform just missing Middlesbrough S (where there are rumours of a local deal)Pro_Rata said:
Any party nominations MIA yet?El_Capitano said:
Some districts have got theirs up already - impressive work.Sandpit said:Nominations closed.
Statement of persons nominated in one hour.1 -
Harwood reporting that canvassers are finding things have got worse as well… https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1799091605476909272?s=46&t=DjGzxV4_2K3JqT59XIU6Lg
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How does Cameron do that as a Lord, and Johnson? Are you taking the piss?Alanbrooke said:
I think we're there. Either Cameron or Bojo now would move the needle they couldnt really do any worse. It's unfortunate for Sunak but he's just struggling, the country has made up its mind it's not him and nothing will change it.Stuartinromford said:
If Conservative candidates have anything to do with it, he'll go to live on a farm where he will be very happy and no we can't go to see him.Alanbrooke said:
It makes you wonder what Sunaks going to do for the next 4 weeks. Starmer will be watching the football.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer is now not bad on the ratings, +16 so not that different to Cameron.
Sunak on -32
I mean, you can't dump your candidate for PM mid-campaign. You would look stupid. Especially having dumped his two predecessors. But there comes a point where that would be better than four weeks of this.
Farage could reverse take over the Tories, I suppose.0 -
Yes, but that was a fair while ago (in political campaign terms)EPG said:
But, we were also told that the Labour vote was collapsing among tradesmen and midwives over private school fees. So multiple big calls in opposite directions, and one proves right.Anabobazina said:It seems like incredibly old news now but worth noting that the debate had no effect on VI and the 2K Lie might actually have depressed the Tory score somewhat. Just caught up with Question Time and it was very bad indeed on the 2K Lie for the Tories. Any short term gain they might have got from 'landing' it on the night rapidly unravelled, and backfired.
Another big call @MoonRabbit got right. Kudos to her.0 -
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In 1972, the dumping of the Democratic nominee for VP, US Sen, Tom Eagleton due to his past, undisclosed shock treatments was the final nail in the coffin for hopes that POTUS nominee George McGovern could beat Richard Nixon in November.Stuartinromford said:
If Conservative candidates have anything to do with it, he'll go to live on a farm where he will be very happy and no we can't go to see him.Alanbrooke said:
It makes you wonder what Sunaks going to do for the next 4 weeks. Starmer will be watching the football.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer is now not bad on the ratings, +16 so not that different to Cameron.
Sunak on -32
I mean, you can't dump your candidate for PM mid-campaign. You would look stupid. Especially having dumped his two predecessors. But there comes a point where that would be better than four weeks of this.
That summer, while on summer vacation out West, visited with the grandmother of a friend, who was in her 80s, shortly after the 1972 Democratic Convention; like me she was an avid Democrat. We naturally discussed the convention, and the ticket.
I expressed cautious optimism about McGovern's picking Eagleton as his VP running mate. "I'm not so sure," she replied, in her very think Swedish accent (she'd come to US when she was 12-years old, but learned her English in a timber camp that was about 90% Scandinavian in population). "There's something about him I just don't trust" she explained.0 -
Yes, the National Government picked up around 90% of seats (mainly Baldwin's Conservatives who hoovered up over 75% of seats) so that's more than the 80% of seats for Labour projected by that poll (although it's not going to happen).numbertwelve said:
Hard to say because most systems used in the West are PR and not directly comparable.PedestrianRock said:
What is the most recent example in the Western World of a party having as high a majority as this, in an actual democracy?Anabobazina said:
Just for fun, Baxtered:ToryJim said:Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 45% (-1)
CON: 20% (-1)
RFM: 15% (+2)
LDM: 10% (+2)
GRN: 5% (-1)
SNP: 3% (=)
Via @wethinkpolling, 6-7 Jun.
Changes w/ 30-31 May.
CON 30
LAB 531
LIB 53
REF 0
GRN 1
SNP 13
PLC 4
Labour majority of 412.
From our history it would be 1931.
Pompidou also picked up 75% of seats in 1968 in France.
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You beat me to it. Sub 100 seats incoming ?Chameleon said:Harwood reporting that canvassers are finding things have got worse as well… https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1799091605476909272?s=46&t=DjGzxV4_2K3JqT59XIU6Lg
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Indeed. I'm taping it. But like most of Joe Public, I'll be watching the football on the other channel.TimS said:
I’m expecting this debate to be much better than the first one. Mordaunt, Rayner and Cooper are all good engaging debaters, and I expect both Ange and Penny will come across as more likeable than their leaders. Better format too.numbertwelve said:
If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?MoonRabbit said:
The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.MoonRabbit said:
There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?Anabobazina said:
What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?MoonRabbit said:In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.
Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.
Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?
Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?0 -
Penny needs to focus on holding her seat, where she is behind but not doomed according to the YouGov MRP. Try and crowbar in a few references to Portsmouth!Mexicanpete said:
What? Just go up and chin Rayner? Yeah that might work.numbertwelve said:
If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?MoonRabbit said:
The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.MoonRabbit said:
There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?Anabobazina said:
What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?MoonRabbit said:In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.
Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.
Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?
Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?2 -
I note big swing to LD with squeeze of Lab in Torquay council last night, but narrow Tory hold.Farooq said:@MarqueeMark
Any sign of D-Day on the doorstep?
I wonder if we will here similar story in South Devon.
Last night's Wellswood (Torbay) council by-election result:
CON: 42.3% (-21.1)
LDEM: 41.9% (+41.9)
REF: 8.5% (+8.5)
LAB: 5.3% (-19.6)
GRN: 1.5% (-10.1)
WP: 0.5% (+0.5)
Valid votes cast: 2,217
Conservative HOLD.0 -
Johnson won because he was against Corbyn. Period. Everyone (except a few deluded dopes) knew he was a buffoon who should not be anywhere near power, but he was simply slightly less odious than the revolting alternative.williamglenn said:
Who do you think would have beaten Johnson in the context of 2019? Not Starmer.BatteryCorrectHorse said:I really do think we should accept that if Jezza had not stood in 2019, the Tories would not have won.
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Why should I take the piss ? The Tory campaign is dead in the water, they can either try to shore up the blue wall or the red wall. At the levels their trading they have not much left to lose.Mexicanpete said:
How does Cameron do that as a Lord, and Johnson? Are you taking the piss?Alanbrooke said:
I think we're there. Either Cameron or Bojo now would move the needle they couldnt really do any worse. It's unfortunate for Sunak but he's just struggling, the country has made up its mind it's not him and nothing will change it.Stuartinromford said:
If Conservative candidates have anything to do with it, he'll go to live on a farm where he will be very happy and no we can't go to see him.Alanbrooke said:
It makes you wonder what Sunaks going to do for the next 4 weeks. Starmer will be watching the football.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer is now not bad on the ratings, +16 so not that different to Cameron.
Sunak on -32
I mean, you can't dump your candidate for PM mid-campaign. You would look stupid. Especially having dumped his two predecessors. But there comes a point where that would be better than four weeks of this.
Farage could reverse take over the Tories, I suppose.
Cameron would get the @TSE vote and all criticisms would be modded away
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@robfordmancs
Fascinating stuff - if you wanted a list of which Con MPs have most to worry about from Sunak's D-Day disaster, here it is...
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Is there any chance that Sunak left early because Big Z said he only wanted to talk to Starmer?2
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Bet365 - Tories less than 50 seats now 10/3..Taz said:
You beat me to it. Sub 100 seats incoming ?Chameleon said:Harwood reporting that canvassers are finding things have got worse as well… https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1799091605476909272?s=46&t=DjGzxV4_2K3JqT59XIU6Lg
We were discussing crossover before all this!
Labour 500 seats or more 6/1
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Jo Gideon (Outgoing Stoke Central MP) launching a rather scathing attack on the party.0
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He did that ages ago which is why the Tories are where they are.Mexicanpete said:
How does Cameron do that as a Lord, and Johnson? Are you taking the piss?Alanbrooke said:
I think we're there. Either Cameron or Bojo now would move the needle they couldnt really do any worse. It's unfortunate for Sunak but he's just struggling, the country has made up its mind it's not him and nothing will change it.Stuartinromford said:
If Conservative candidates have anything to do with it, he'll go to live on a farm where he will be very happy and no we can't go to see him.Alanbrooke said:
It makes you wonder what Sunaks going to do for the next 4 weeks. Starmer will be watching the football.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Starmer is now not bad on the ratings, +16 so not that different to Cameron.
Sunak on -32
I mean, you can't dump your candidate for PM mid-campaign. You would look stupid. Especially having dumped his two predecessors. But there comes a point where that would be better than four weeks of this.
Farage could reverse take over the Tories, I suppose.1 -
https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/1799084699052314745Not possible to overstate scale of anger from Tory MPs. One says: “If this had happened outside the election, he’d be gone. The letters would be in”.If Dan tweets about the explosion in anger of Tory MPs every day, one day Dan will be right.
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Three weeks before the 2010 Hungarian election, Fidesz were polling as high as 64 and 67%. In the end they acheived 53% and 68% of the seats. That was on a an AMS system IIRC.FeersumEnjineeya said:
I'd guess it's pretty unlikely in proportional representation systems or the like. FPTP, on the other hand, tends to give quasi-stable two-party equilibria that, when they do flip, lead to dramatic changes of fortune.PedestrianRock said:
What is the most recent example in the Western World of a party having as high a majority as this, in an actual democracy?Anabobazina said:
Just for fun, Baxtered:ToryJim said:Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 45% (-1)
CON: 20% (-1)
RFM: 15% (+2)
LDM: 10% (+2)
GRN: 5% (-1)
SNP: 3% (=)
Via @wethinkpolling, 6-7 Jun.
Changes w/ 30-31 May.
CON 30
LAB 531
LIB 53
REF 0
GRN 1
SNP 13
PLC 4
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@estwebber
Thinking about this from a few months ago on Sunak's failure to visit Germany
Feels like his man-in-a-hurry thing plus delegating diplomacy to Cameron seeded yesterday's disastrous error
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The same principle applies to forecasters of economic downturns.DM_Andy said:https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/1799084699052314745
Not possible to overstate scale of anger from Tory MPs. One says: “If this had happened outside the election, he’d be gone. The letters would be in”.If Dan tweets about the explosion in anger of Tory MPs every day, one day Dan will be right.0 -
And, we're off..
@MirrorPolitics
Tory election candidate quits after sharing inappropriate photos from club nights for kids
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That’s very good.JosiasJessop said:
That's crass and shit.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Official Labour Party poster.
But it's also politics.
I look forward to Labour being treated similarly.
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Who knows? It's as good an explanation as any.BlancheLivermore said:Is there any chance that Sunak left early because Big Z said he only wanted to talk to Starmer?
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Not sure 'playing the race card' would be a very effective strategy with the actual voters making a decision between Reform or Sunak, as opposed to the electorate as a whole. The fundamental problem is Sunak is bang to rights on this so saying criticism is racist is only going to make it worse.TOPPING said:If the Cons had any sense about them or were tactically astute they would somehow imply that Reform were being racist and criticism of his actions yesterday were questioning Rishi's Britishness and that this was typical of their attitude to a British Asian.
Why only today a noted PB poster said words to that effect.
Starmer, noticeably, hasn't attacked Rishi and I'm guessing this is one reason why.
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If Starmer does become unpopular quite quickly in office then the following election might be a contest for power between the Lib Dems and Reform.1
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That doesn't look like an official Labour Party poster, where's the print in the bottom left corner saying who authorised it, which is normally on official election posters?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Official Labour Party poster.1 -
https://x.com/tomorrowsmps/status/1799099753634128305?s=46
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Regarding that poster supposedly from Labour, with no branding and no imprint. Really? . I’m not even convinced it’s not been photoshopped over a different poster image. I think there are grounds to be pretty dubious that it’s real. I think we shouldn’t allow ourselves to lean into our biases. I don’t think it’s real.3
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It's rather clever, but also somewhat harsh and OTT. The fact that the image is low-res and looks hacked together makes me wonder if you could be right.ToryJim said:Regarding that poster supposedly from Labour, with no branding and no imprint. Really? . I’m not even convinced it’s not been photoshopped over a different poster image. I think there are grounds to be pretty dubious that it’s real. I think we shouldn’t allow ourselves to lean into our biases. I don’t think it’s real.
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Well, simply getting it made and put up in that space of time would be tricky enough.ToryJim said:Regarding that poster supposedly from Labour, with no branding and no imprint. Really? . I’m not even convinced it’s not been photoshopped over a different poster image. I think there are grounds to be pretty dubious that it’s real. I think we shouldn’t allow ourselves to lean into our biases. I don’t think it’s real.
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Especially since re: the Great Debate MR was herself caught up in the hope if not glory of RS's performance.DougSeal said:
Yes. Fair play to her. An amazing turn around in form. She's made a few good calls lately.Anabobazina said:It seems like incredibly old news now but worth noting that the debate had no effect on VI and the 2K Lie might actually have depressed the Tory score somewhat. Just caught up with Question Time and it was very bad indeed on the 2K Lie for the Tories. Any short term gain they might have got from 'landing' it on the night rapidly unravelled, and backfired.
Another big call @MoonRabbit got right. Kudos to her.
Her subsequent analysis was more cogent. In addition to her own intellect, am guessing that views of her father (who she frequently cites) may have had something to do with this?
That was certainly the case for me with my own father. He was (and still is) NOT responsible for my fool opinions, but he did (and still does) remain a major factor in my (so-called) thinking.0 -
Feeling slightly smug that I tipped Labour 500+ seats at 25/1 on Betfair Exchange a week ago (currently trading at 8/1 over there). Stuck twenty quid on it intending it to be a trading bet, reckon I will keep it now for the lolz.eek said:
Bet365 - Tories less than 50 seats now 10/3..Taz said:
You beat me to it. Sub 100 seats incoming ?Chameleon said:Harwood reporting that canvassers are finding things have got worse as well… https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1799091605476909272?s=46&t=DjGzxV4_2K3JqT59XIU6Lg
We were discussing crossover before all this!
Labour 500 seats or more 6/1
Fwiw, I don't think Labour will reach 500 seats but I do see them coming close. 450+ feels nailed on, unless anything changes.2 -
It's not as if D Day isn't important in South East Hampshire.GarethoftheVale2 said:
Penny needs to focus on holding her seat, where she is behind but not doomed according to the YouGov MRP. Try and crowbar in a few references to Portsmouth!Mexicanpete said:
What? Just go up and chin Rayner? Yeah that might work.numbertwelve said:
If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?MoonRabbit said:
The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.MoonRabbit said:
There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?Anabobazina said:
What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?MoonRabbit said:In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.
Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.
Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?
Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?
Portsmouth, Fareham, that sort of place.
(Gosport as well, but who cares about Caroline Dinenage?)0 -
This seems very unlikely in practice. He met Cameron only the other day and, whilst I am sure foreign governments are working on a presumption of Conservative defeat, there's no benefit in taking the risk of a deliberate snub.BlancheLivermore said:Is there any chance that Sunak left early because Big Z said he only wanted to talk to Starmer?
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@Topping – yes, I thought there was some thinly veiled racism in Farage's "not a patriotic Prime Minister" comment.0
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Lab didn't stand last time, LD did. So LD is up 17%; Green+Lab down 5 on Green last time so possibly a squeeze.Foxy said:
I note big swing to LD with squeeze of Lab in Torquay council last night, but narrow Tory hold.Farooq said:@MarqueeMark
Any sign of D-Day on the doorstep?
I wonder if we will here similar story in South Devon.
Last night's Wellswood (Torbay) council by-election result:
CON: 42.3% (-21.1)
LDEM: 41.9% (+41.9)
REF: 8.5% (+8.5)
LAB: 5.3% (-19.6)
GRN: 1.5% (-10.1)
WP: 0.5% (+0.5)
Valid votes cast: 2,217
Conservative HOLD.0 -
No it's true. Sunak left a bunch of ex-heroes and Statesmen on the beaches of Normandy so he could go back to Blighty for a photo-op and interview.Chris said:
Fire up the Huey.
Edit: Don't be too precious the poster wrote itself.0 -
Apocalypse now.Farooq said:
Honey, I Shrunk The PartyTaz said:Rishi Sunak playing Brewsters Millions
https://x.com/cjsnowdon/status/1799085361219735965?s=61
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Their other social media ‘posters’ don’t have an imprint, at least not on their Twitter posts from the official @UKLabour account.ToryJim said:Regarding that poster supposedly from Labour, with no branding and no imprint. Really? . I’m not even convinced it’s not been photoshopped over a different poster image. I think there are grounds to be pretty dubious that it’s real. I think we shouldn’t allow ourselves to lean into our biases. I don’t think it’s real.
But this particular ‘poster’ doesn’t appear on that account at all.0 -
Edit. Don't be too precious. The poster wrote itself.Mexicanpete said:
No it's true. Sunak left a bunch of ex-heroes and Statesmen on the beaches of Normandy so he could go back to Blighty for a photo-op and interview.Chris said:
Fire up the Huey.0 -
Oh god, that sounds grimScott_xP said:And, we're off..
@MirrorPolitics
Tory election candidate quits after sharing inappropriate photos from club nights for kids
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🔵 Conservative HQ tell me they have managed to nominate candidates in all but one seat, and that seat is "unwinnable".
https://x.com/tomorrowsmps/status/1799102778385781207?s=46
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I do not agree. 2019 was not JUST Corbyn. There was a very strong mood to get Brexit over the line. The public were sick of politicians failing to honour the vote.BatteryCorrectHorse said:I really do think we should accept that if Jezza had not stood in 2019, the Tories would not have won.
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Ah. Spen Valley. A Tory chance if things were going sort of OK for them. Might be why my local list isn't up yet.Scott_xP said:And, we're off..
@MirrorPolitics
Tory election candidate quits after sharing inappropriate photos from club nights for kids
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I think also, on a human level, he’s had many meetings with Sunak and they seemed to get on well so he’s got no reason to snub someone who kept up the support and they didn’t have any personal animosity or coolness.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
This seems very unlikely in practice. He met Cameron only the other day and, whilst I am sure foreign governments are working on a presumption of Conservative defeat, there's no benefit in taking the risk of a deliberate snub.BlancheLivermore said:Is there any chance that Sunak left early because Big Z said he only wanted to talk to Starmer?
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Do we really think Rishi could be subbed in the tenth minute of time added?0
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Yeah it’s why I’m dubious. I think it’s just some clicktivist doing it and then confirmation bias juicing it up.Sandpit said:
Their other social media ‘posters’ don’t have an imprint, at least not on their Twitter posts from the official @UKLabour account.ToryJim said:Regarding that poster supposedly from Labour, with no branding and no imprint. Really? . I’m not even convinced it’s not been photoshopped over a different poster image. I think there are grounds to be pretty dubious that it’s real. I think we shouldn’t allow ourselves to lean into our biases. I don’t think it’s real.
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I think I am right.turbotubbs said:
I do not agree. 2019 was not JUST Corbyn. There was a very strong mood to get Brexit over the line. The public were sick of politicians failing to honour the vote.BatteryCorrectHorse said:I really do think we should accept that if Jezza had not stood in 2019, the Tories would not have won.
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I've got Gosport down as a Tory hold. They didn't do that badly in the council elections, Electoral Calculus is considering Labour as the challengers but Lib Dems run the local council. Dinenage should get high 30s and get through the middle.Stuartinromford said:
It's not as if D Day isn't important in South East Hampshire.GarethoftheVale2 said:
Penny needs to focus on holding her seat, where she is behind but not doomed according to the YouGov MRP. Try and crowbar in a few references to Portsmouth!Mexicanpete said:
What? Just go up and chin Rayner? Yeah that might work.numbertwelve said:
If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?MoonRabbit said:
The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.MoonRabbit said:
There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?Anabobazina said:
What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?MoonRabbit said:In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.
Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.
Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?
Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?
Portsmouth, Fareham, that sort of place.
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Better than keeping him on the pitchMexicanpete said:Do we really think Rishi could be subbed in the tenth minute of time added?
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Thank you so much for this tip. I’m on at 15.5 so not as good as you, but similarly wanted it to be a trading bet that I’m now thinking of keeping.kyf_100 said:
Feeling slightly smug that I tipped Labour 500+ seats at 25/1 on Betfair Exchange a week ago (currently trading at 8/1 over there). Stuck twenty quid on it intending it to be a trading bet, reckon I will keep it now for the lolz.eek said:
Bet365 - Tories less than 50 seats now 10/3..Taz said:
You beat me to it. Sub 100 seats incoming ?Chameleon said:Harwood reporting that canvassers are finding things have got worse as well… https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1799091605476909272?s=46&t=DjGzxV4_2K3JqT59XIU6Lg
We were discussing crossover before all this!
Labour 500 seats or more 6/1
Fwiw, I don't think Labour will reach 500 seats but I do see them coming close. 450+ feels nailed on, unless anything changes.
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I mean I hope it's not an official Labour poster.Mexicanpete said:
No it's true. Sunak left a bunch of ex-heroes and Statesmen on the beaches of Normandy so he could go back to Blighty for a photo-op and interview.Chris said:
Fire up the Huey.
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No but she absolutely eviscerates internal party processes. It’s well worth reading her thread. I suspect there will be more such stuff after the election.Andy_JS said:
Is she defecting to RefUK?Chameleon said:Jo Gideon (Outgoing Stoke Central MP) launching a rather scathing attack on the party.
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NYT - British Leader Apologizes for Leaving D-Day Commemoration Early
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak conceded that he made a major public relations misstep in the heat of a general election campaign.
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak of Britain apologized on Friday for leaving early from a D-Day commemoration in France, admitting to a major public relations misstep in the heat of a general election campaign.
“After the conclusion of the British event in Normandy, I returned back to the UK,” Mr. Sunak wrote on the social media platform X. “On reflection, it was a mistake not to stay in France longer — and I apologise.” . . .
ITV’s U.K. editor, Paul Brand, said the broadcaster had been trying to schedule an interview with Mr. Sunak for a long time. “Today was the slot they offered us,” he said to ITV’s “News at Ten” program. “We don’t know why.”
SSI - This is pretty much a blip on the radar screen here, of interest only to political junkies who include UK politics in their orbit.
For one thing, Rishi Sunak is virtually unknown on this side of the Atlantic (and Pacific). Even less known that Keir Starmer which ain't saying much. For another, few Americans who DO know that RS is PM and running for re-election (so to speak) are seething with outrage. However, we (in non-royal sense) do think it was (yet another) weird blunder.1 -
And they're in - the withdrawal shown and a last minute Con nominee parachuted in from an address in Altrincham & Sale WestPro_Rata said:
Ah. Spen Valley. A Tory chance if things were going sort of OK for them. Might be why my local list isn't up yet.Scott_xP said:And, we're off..
@MirrorPolitics
Tory election candidate quits after sharing inappropriate photos from club nights for kids
https://x.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1799100568318931308
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As I said. It's crass and shit.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
The Tories said SKS failed to prosecute Jimmy Saville.JosiasJessop said:
That's crass and shit.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Official Labour Party poster.
But it's also politics.
I look forward to Labour being treated similarly.
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It's the fact that the opposition is split that gives the Tories a chance there.DM_Andy said:
I've got Gosport down as a Tory hold. They didn't do that badly in the council elections, Electoral Calculus is considering Labour as the challengers but Lib Dems run the local council. Dinenage should get high 30s and get through the middle.Stuartinromford said:
It's not as if D Day isn't important in South East Hampshire.GarethoftheVale2 said:
Penny needs to focus on holding her seat, where she is behind but not doomed according to the YouGov MRP. Try and crowbar in a few references to Portsmouth!Mexicanpete said:
What? Just go up and chin Rayner? Yeah that might work.numbertwelve said:
If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?MoonRabbit said:
The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.MoonRabbit said:
There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?Anabobazina said:
What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?MoonRabbit said:In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.
Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.
Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?
Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?
Portsmouth, Fareham, that sort of place.
(Gosport as well, but who cares about Caroline Dinenage?)
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7 Candidates in St Albans - LD, C, L, G, R, SDP, Heritage0
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Yup. "Look no-one expects Sunak to be around after July 4. We're looking ahead."numbertwelve said:
If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?MoonRabbit said:
The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.MoonRabbit said:
There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?Anabobazina said:
What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?MoonRabbit said:In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.
Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.
Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?
Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?0 -
And Johnson was popular in those Red Wall Leave seats on which the Cons GE19 victory was built.turbotubbs said:
I do not agree. 2019 was not JUST Corbyn. There was a very strong mood to get Brexit over the line. The public were sick of politicians failing to honour the vote.BatteryCorrectHorse said:I really do think we should accept that if Jezza had not stood in 2019, the Tories would not have won.
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🚨 NEW: Controversial priest and commentator Calvin Robinson has been expelled from the Tories for allegedly supporting Tommy Robinson and posting anti-Muslim tweets
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@Tomorrow'sMPs
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Robert Hutton
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Wouldn't that just be so absurd?Scott_xP said:
Better than keeping him on the pitchMexicanpete said:Do we really think Rishi could be subbed in the tenth minute of time added?
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Foxy - those change figures are wrong. LDM should be +17.0, Lab +5.3. So it was Lab intervention that let the Con win.Foxy said:
I note big swing to LD with squeeze of Lab in Torquay council last night, but narrow Tory hold.Farooq said:@MarqueeMark
Any sign of D-Day on the doorstep?
I wonder if we will here similar story in South Devon.
Last night's Wellswood (Torbay) council by-election result:
CON: 42.3% (-21.1)
LDEM: 41.9% (+41.9)
REF: 8.5% (+8.5)
LAB: 5.3% (-19.6)
GRN: 1.5% (-10.1)
WP: 0.5% (+0.5)
Valid votes cast: 2,217
Conservative HOLD.0 -
Just to say, I don't want a humungous Labour majority at the price of empowering Farage. I'll take the vanilla landslide.2
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He's an absolute nutter. Genuinely off his rocker.Andy_JS said:
Never occurred to me he was still in the Tories.ToryJim said:🚨 NEW: Controversial priest and commentator Calvin Robinson has been expelled from the Tories for allegedly supporting Tommy Robinson and posting anti-Muslim tweets
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Mostly agree about Gosport. Can't remember who came up with the "50% of Cons in 2019 plays Lab in 2017" model, but she's OK on that. And a lot of the failure of Gosport Council Conservatives is piling up lots of votes on too few places.DM_Andy said:
I've got Gosport down as a Tory hold. They didn't do that badly in the council elections, Electoral Calculus is considering Labour as the challengers but Lib Dems run the local council. Dinenage should get high 30s and get through the middle.Stuartinromford said:
It's not as if D Day isn't important in South East Hampshire.GarethoftheVale2 said:
Penny needs to focus on holding her seat, where she is behind but not doomed according to the YouGov MRP. Try and crowbar in a few references to Portsmouth!Mexicanpete said:
What? Just go up and chin Rayner? Yeah that might work.numbertwelve said:
If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?MoonRabbit said:
The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.MoonRabbit said:
There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?Anabobazina said:
What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?MoonRabbit said:In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.
Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.
Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?
Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?
Portsmouth, Fareham, that sort of place.
(Gosport as well, but who cares about Caroline Dinenage?)
But D Day.
You do not mess with D Day commemorations in Gosport.1 -
I’m surprised he hasn’t been defrocked by now.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
He's an absolute nutter. Genuinely off his rocker.Andy_JS said:
Never occurred to me he was still in the Tories.ToryJim said:🚨 NEW: Controversial priest and commentator Calvin Robinson has been expelled from the Tories for allegedly supporting Tommy Robinson and posting anti-Muslim tweets
It’s all happening today
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Labour have a really good ad agency who I imagine is responsible for that. Ironically called 'Lucky Generals'. There should be a few classics during this campaign. The Tories must be doing theirs in house. Their PPB certainly looked like it!BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Official Labour Party poster.0 -
NO TORY CANDIDATE IN ROTHERHAM.1
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🚨 BREAKING: Tory candidate for Spen Valley Adam Gregg has quit after inappropriate photos of underage girls he posted online resurfaced
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My source was:slade said:
Foxy - those change figures are wrong. LDM should be +17.0, Lab +5.3. So it was Lab intervention that let the Con win.Foxy said:
I note big swing to LD with squeeze of Lab in Torquay council last night, but narrow Tory hold.Farooq said:@MarqueeMark
Any sign of D-Day on the doorstep?
I wonder if we will here similar story in South Devon.
Last night's Wellswood (Torbay) council by-election result:
CON: 42.3% (-21.1)
LDEM: 41.9% (+41.9)
REF: 8.5% (+8.5)
LAB: 5.3% (-19.6)
GRN: 1.5% (-10.1)
WP: 0.5% (+0.5)
Valid votes cast: 2,217
Conservative HOLD.
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wuss.kinabalu said:Just to say, I don't want a humungous Labour majority at the price of empowering Farage. I'll take the vanilla landslide.
that just means we get to rubbish Starmer for the next five years.
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CUP 2024 general election "campaign" reminds me of the POTUS 1988 general election "campaign" of Democratic nominee Mike Dukakis.
Speaking as one who back then was cursing and throwing things at my TV set. watching Dukakis and Democratic hopes of regaining the White House going down in flames, as he & his "advisers" kept throwing more gasoline on the fires while Lee Atwater (remember him?) kept lighting match after match.
You (or at least I) can blame Atwater for the "Willy Horton" ads . . . but NOT for Mike Dukakis answering question about his reaction IF his own wife was murdered - during a freaking POTUS debate - with a learned discourse on the rights of the accused.
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A 30 to 40 seat majority would do me.kinabalu said:Just to say, I don't want a humungous Labour majority at the price of empowering Farage. I'll take the vanilla landslide.
I am sensing I might be wrong about 1992 redux. That is not necessarily my fault. I couldn't have countenanced the sub-Johnson clown show. Although there is nearly a month to go, so it's not a done deal yet0 -
Statements of persons nominated should all be published now.0
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No Holly Valance in Basildon & Billericay but Dick Holden is listed as [address in the Bishop Auckland constituency] which I imagine the Basildon resident running for the Labour Party will make a big deal of.1
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Ilford North?eek said:@Tomorrow'sMPs
@tomorrowsmps
🔵 Conservative HQ tell me they have managed to nominate candidates in all but one seat, and that seat is "unwinnable".
Robert Hutton
@RobDotHutton
Right now, that might mean Beaconsfield.
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What on Earth? Hope this has been reported to the police?Andy_JS said:"Politics UK
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🚨 BREAKING: Tory candidate for Spen Valley Adam Gregg has quit after inappropriate photos of underage girls he posted online resurfaced
He quit minutes before the deadline for candidates to enter/withdraw
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When was the last time that the Conservatives didn’t stand in every GB seat (excluding the Speaker’s)?eek said:@Tomorrow'sMPs
@tomorrowsmps
🔵 Conservative HQ tell me they have managed to nominate candidates in all but one seat, and that seat is "unwinnable".
Robert Hutton
@RobDotHutton
Right now, that might mean Beaconsfield.0 -
The Church of England never frocked him in the first place. His deaconing was with the (fringe) Free Church of England and his pristine by the (I had to look them up) Nordic Catholic Church.ToryJim said:
I’m surprised he hasn’t been defrocked by now.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
He's an absolute nutter. Genuinely off his rocker.Andy_JS said:
Never occurred to me he was still in the Tories.ToryJim said:🚨 NEW: Controversial priest and commentator Calvin Robinson has been expelled from the Tories for allegedly supporting Tommy Robinson and posting anti-Muslim tweets
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Too late, its a de facto done deal after DDgate.kinabalu said:Just to say, I don't want a humungous Labour majority at the price of empowering Farage. I'll take the vanilla landslide.
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Truss would have had more chance of turning things around.Mexicanpete said:
A 30 to 40 seat majority would do me.kinabalu said:Just to say, I don't want a humungous Labour majority at the price of empowering Farage. I'll take the vanilla landslide.
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A random selection of statements of persons nominated, for people who like that sort of thing. 😊 (Hope this many links aren't too annoying).
https://www.luton.gov.uk/Council_government_and_democracy/Lists/LutonDocuments/PDF/Voting and elections/election-july-2024/statement-of-person-nominated-and-notice-of-poll-luton-north.pdf
https://www.stalbans.gov.uk/sites/default/files/attachments/Statement of persons nominated and notice of poll_Harpenden and Berkhamsted 4 July 2024.pdf
https://www.stalbans.gov.uk/sites/default/files/attachments/Statement of persons nominated and notice of poll_St Albans 4 July 2024.pdf
https://www.midsussex.gov.uk/media/uxintccw/east-grinstead-and-uckfield-sopn-nop.pdf
https://www.midsussex.gov.uk/media/ji1bj0rd/mid-sussex-sopn-nop.pdf
https://www.highpeak.gov.uk/media/9290/Statement-of-Persons-Nominated-Notice-of-Poll-and-Situation-of-Polling-Stations/pdf/Statement_of_Persons_Nominated_Notice_of_Poll_and_Situation_of_Polling_Stations.pdf?m=1717774865887
https://n-somerset.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2024-06/7 Jun - statement of persons nominated, notice of poll and location of polling stations - Weston-super-Mare constituency.pdf
https://rdcpublic.blob.core.windows.net/website-uploads/2024/06/Statement-of-Persons-Nominated-Notice-of-Poll-and-Situation-of-Polling-Stations-UKPGE-2024.pdf
https://www.stratford.gov.uk/doc/212829/name/Statement of Persons Nominated Notice of Poll and Situation of Polling Stations.pdf/
https://n-somerset.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2024-06/7 Jun - statement of persons nominated, notice of poll and location of polling stations - North Somerset constituency.pdf
https://www.westlancs.gov.uk/media/547768/statement-of-persons-nominated-general-election-2024-west-lancashire.pdf3
