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  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,551



    Official Labour Party poster.

    That's crass and shit.

    But it's also politics.

    I look forward to Labour being treated similarly.
    The Tories said SKS failed to prosecute Jimmy Saville.
    Now then. Now then!
  • northern_monkeynorthern_monkey Posts: 1,639



    Official Labour Party poster.

    That's crass and shit.

    But it's also politics.

    I look forward to Labour being treated similarly.
    I’ve had my picture for the day but, y’know, that picture of Miliband wrestling with a bacon sarnie springs to mind.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 21,866
    edited June 7

    DougSeal said:

    @AlexTaylorNews

    2 leading German papers on the UK election today

    "What have Brexit and Voldemort got in common ? People find them awful but their name must never be spoken"
    Die Zeit↙️

    "Brexit has become taboo, which, given the problems the country faces, is grotesque"
    Handelsblatt (🇩🇪 FT) ↘️

    Brave for a country which has just downgraded all its economic forecasts.
    You do realise that those pesky furriners with their stinky ways have things called “newspapers” that have views independent of their governments don’t you? Or do you think we are too important for others to make comment on us?
    Given I was Geschatsfueher in Germany for five years, speak fluent German, read the German press every day and am currently working in Germany. I suspect I have a better feel for the place than you. But dont let that stop you.
    Your German spelling certainly seems to be on a par with your English spelling.
    Ever the middle managers call. Senior management dont worry about it.
    The word you were trying to articulate is Geschäftsführer, or Geschaeftsfuehrer if you don't have access to umlauts.
    I prefer Geschatsfueher ; it's sounds like the honorary position that would be occupied by Trump as "Baron von Schitzinpants", per Michael Cohen.
  • TazTaz Posts: 13,605
    EPG said:

    It seems like incredibly old news now but worth noting that the debate had no effect on VI and the 2K Lie might actually have depressed the Tory score somewhat. Just caught up with Question Time and it was very bad indeed on the 2K Lie for the Tories. Any short term gain they might have got from 'landing' it on the night rapidly unravelled, and backfired.

    Another big call @MoonRabbit got right. Kudos to her.

    But, we were also told that the Labour vote was collapsing among tradesmen and midwives over private school fees. So multiple big calls in opposite directions, and one proves right.
    It’s like the people who constantly forecast recessions and economic crashes. They revel in what they get right and forget all those they don’t.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,533

    My weekly average polling graph.



    With YouGov changing their methodology, I am using the numbers provided by YouGov on their old methodology so that I have a consistent and comparable set of data. Similarly I am not incorporating other polling companies, of which there are many.

    This average does not try and predict the result, rather than provide a comparable tracked data.

    This weeks figures
    C 21.8% (-0.9)
    L 45.0% (-0.3)
    LD 9.5% (+0.3)
    SNP 2.5% (-0.2)
    G 5.0% (-0.5)
    RUK 13.3% (+1.5)

    Pre D-Daygate of course.

    Conservatives still above the lowest of 21.3% during the Truss epoch.

    So, the Tories probably reached their most recent polling average peak around Easter 2023, and have been in a remarkably steady decline since then?
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,157

    I really do think we should accept that if Jezza had not stood in 2019, the Tories would not have won.

    I have long believed that to be the case. It is also true that if Corbyn had not been leader of Labour in 2016 the referendum would have probably gone the other way.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,687



    Official Labour Party poster.

    I sincerely hope that's a joke.

  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,173
    Pro_Rata said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nominations closed.

    Statement of persons nominated in one hour.

    Some districts have got theirs up already - impressive work.
    Any party nominations MIA yet?
    So far looking like pretty full slates for Con, Lab, LD, Green, Reform. Reform just missing Middlesbrough S (where there are rumours of a local deal)
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Harwood reporting that canvassers are finding things have got worse as well… https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1799091605476909272?s=46&t=DjGzxV4_2K3JqT59XIU6Lg

    We were discussing crossover before all this!
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,551

    Starmer is now not bad on the ratings, +16 so not that different to Cameron.

    Sunak on -32

    It makes you wonder what Sunaks going to do for the next 4 weeks. Starmer will be watching the football.
    If Conservative candidates have anything to do with it, he'll go to live on a farm where he will be very happy and no we can't go to see him.

    I mean, you can't dump your candidate for PM mid-campaign. You would look stupid. Especially having dumped his two predecessors. But there comes a point where that would be better than four weeks of this.
    I think we're there. Either Cameron or Bojo now would move the needle they couldnt really do any worse. It's unfortunate for Sunak but he's just struggling, the country has made up its mind it's not him and nothing will change it.
    How does Cameron do that as a Lord, and Johnson? Are you taking the piss?

    Farage could reverse take over the Tories, I suppose.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 22,458
    EPG said:

    It seems like incredibly old news now but worth noting that the debate had no effect on VI and the 2K Lie might actually have depressed the Tory score somewhat. Just caught up with Question Time and it was very bad indeed on the 2K Lie for the Tories. Any short term gain they might have got from 'landing' it on the night rapidly unravelled, and backfired.

    Another big call @MoonRabbit got right. Kudos to her.

    But, we were also told that the Labour vote was collapsing among tradesmen and midwives over private school fees. So multiple big calls in opposite directions, and one proves right.
    Yes, but that was a fair while ago (in political campaign terms)
  • TazTaz Posts: 13,605
    Beyond dire from Tory canvassers.

    https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1799091605476909272?s=61
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,854
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,271

    Starmer is now not bad on the ratings, +16 so not that different to Cameron.

    Sunak on -32

    It makes you wonder what Sunaks going to do for the next 4 weeks. Starmer will be watching the football.
    If Conservative candidates have anything to do with it, he'll go to live on a farm where he will be very happy and no we can't go to see him.

    I mean, you can't dump your candidate for PM mid-campaign. You would look stupid. Especially having dumped his two predecessors. But there comes a point where that would be better than four weeks of this.
    In 1972, the dumping of the Democratic nominee for VP, US Sen, Tom Eagleton due to his past, undisclosed shock treatments was the final nail in the coffin for hopes that POTUS nominee George McGovern could beat Richard Nixon in November.

    That summer, while on summer vacation out West, visited with the grandmother of a friend, who was in her 80s, shortly after the 1972 Democratic Convention; like me she was an avid Democrat. We naturally discussed the convention, and the ticket.

    I expressed cautious optimism about McGovern's picking Eagleton as his VP running mate. "I'm not so sure," she replied, in her very think Swedish accent (she'd come to US when she was 12-years old, but learned her English in a timber camp that was about 90% Scandinavian in population). "There's something about him I just don't trust" she explained.
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 7,065

    ToryJim said:

    Westminster Voting Intention:

    LAB: 45% (-1)
    CON: 20% (-1)
    RFM: 15% (+2)
    LDM: 10% (+2)
    GRN: 5% (-1)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    Via @wethinkpolling, 6-7 Jun.
    Changes w/ 30-31 May.

    Just for fun, Baxtered:

    CON 30
    LAB 531
    LIB 53
    REF 0
    GRN 1
    SNP 13
    PLC 4

    Labour majority of 412.
    What is the most recent example in the Western World of a party having as high a majority as this, in an actual democracy?
    Hard to say because most systems used in the West are PR and not directly comparable.

    From our history it would be 1931.
    Yes, the National Government picked up around 90% of seats (mainly Baldwin's Conservatives who hoovered up over 75% of seats) so that's more than the 80% of seats for Labour projected by that poll (although it's not going to happen).

    Pompidou also picked up 75% of seats in 1968 in France.

    As you say, electoral systems make it unlikely in many democracies.
  • TazTaz Posts: 13,605
    Chameleon said:

    Harwood reporting that canvassers are finding things have got worse as well… https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1799091605476909272?s=46&t=DjGzxV4_2K3JqT59XIU6Lg

    We were discussing crossover before all this!

    You beat me to it. Sub 100 seats incoming ?
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 22,458
    TimS said:

    In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.

    Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.

    What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?

    Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?

    Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
    There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?

    What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
    The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.

    To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?
    If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?
    I’m expecting this debate to be much better than the first one. Mordaunt, Rayner and Cooper are all good engaging debaters, and I expect both Ange and Penny will come across as more likeable than their leaders. Better format too.
    Indeed. I'm taping it. But like most of Joe Public, I'll be watching the football on the other channel.
  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,173

    In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.

    Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.

    What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?

    Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?

    Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
    There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?

    What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
    The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.

    To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?
    If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?
    What? Just go up and chin Rayner? Yeah that might work.
    Penny needs to focus on holding her seat, where she is behind but not doomed according to the YouGov MRP. Try and crowbar in a few references to Portsmouth!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,731
    Farooq said:

    @MarqueeMark

    Any sign of D-Day on the doorstep?

    I note big swing to LD with squeeze of Lab in Torquay council last night, but narrow Tory hold.

    I wonder if we will here similar story in South Devon.

    Last night's Wellswood (Torbay) council by-election result:

    CON: 42.3% (-21.1)
    LDEM: 41.9% (+41.9)
    REF: 8.5% (+8.5)
    LAB: 5.3% (-19.6)
    GRN: 1.5% (-10.1)
    WP: 0.5% (+0.5)

    Valid votes cast: 2,217

    Conservative HOLD.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,157

    I really do think we should accept that if Jezza had not stood in 2019, the Tories would not have won.

    Who do you think would have beaten Johnson in the context of 2019? Not Starmer.
    Johnson won because he was against Corbyn. Period. Everyone (except a few deluded dopes) knew he was a buffoon who should not be anywhere near power, but he was simply slightly less odious than the revolting alternative.
  • TazTaz Posts: 13,605
    Rishi Sunak playing Brewsters Millions

    https://x.com/cjsnowdon/status/1799085361219735965?s=61
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,206

    Starmer is now not bad on the ratings, +16 so not that different to Cameron.

    Sunak on -32

    It makes you wonder what Sunaks going to do for the next 4 weeks. Starmer will be watching the football.
    If Conservative candidates have anything to do with it, he'll go to live on a farm where he will be very happy and no we can't go to see him.

    I mean, you can't dump your candidate for PM mid-campaign. You would look stupid. Especially having dumped his two predecessors. But there comes a point where that would be better than four weeks of this.
    I think we're there. Either Cameron or Bojo now would move the needle they couldnt really do any worse. It's unfortunate for Sunak but he's just struggling, the country has made up its mind it's not him and nothing will change it.
    How does Cameron do that as a Lord, and Johnson? Are you taking the piss?

    Farage could reverse take over the Tories, I suppose.
    Why should I take the piss ? The Tory campaign is dead in the water, they can either try to shore up the blue wall or the red wall. At the levels their trading they have not much left to lose.

    Cameron would get the @TSE vote and all criticisms would be modded away :smile:
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,358
    @robfordmancs

    Fascinating stuff - if you wanted a list of which Con MPs have most to worry about from Sunak's D-Day disaster, here it is...

    https://x.com/robfordmancs/status/1799101919220346915
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,695
    Is there any chance that Sunak left early because Big Z said he only wanted to talk to Starmer?
  • eekeek Posts: 27,481
    Taz said:

    Chameleon said:

    Harwood reporting that canvassers are finding things have got worse as well… https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1799091605476909272?s=46&t=DjGzxV4_2K3JqT59XIU6Lg

    We were discussing crossover before all this!

    You beat me to it. Sub 100 seats incoming ?
    Bet365 - Tories less than 50 seats now 10/3..

    Labour 500 seats or more 6/1

  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Jo Gideon (Outgoing Stoke Central MP) launching a rather scathing attack on the party.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,157

    Starmer is now not bad on the ratings, +16 so not that different to Cameron.

    Sunak on -32

    It makes you wonder what Sunaks going to do for the next 4 weeks. Starmer will be watching the football.
    If Conservative candidates have anything to do with it, he'll go to live on a farm where he will be very happy and no we can't go to see him.

    I mean, you can't dump your candidate for PM mid-campaign. You would look stupid. Especially having dumped his two predecessors. But there comes a point where that would be better than four weeks of this.
    I think we're there. Either Cameron or Bojo now would move the needle they couldnt really do any worse. It's unfortunate for Sunak but he's just struggling, the country has made up its mind it's not him and nothing will change it.
    How does Cameron do that as a Lord, and Johnson? Are you taking the piss?

    Farage could reverse take over the Tories, I suppose.
    He did that ages ago which is why the Tories are where they are.
  • DM_AndyDM_Andy Posts: 1,127
    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/1799084699052314745
    Not possible to overstate scale of anger from Tory MPs. One says: “If this had happened outside the election, he’d be gone. The letters would be in”.
    If Dan tweets about the explosion in anger of Tory MPs every day, one day Dan will be right.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 1,953

    ToryJim said:

    Westminster Voting Intention:

    LAB: 45% (-1)
    CON: 20% (-1)
    RFM: 15% (+2)
    LDM: 10% (+2)
    GRN: 5% (-1)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    Via @wethinkpolling, 6-7 Jun.
    Changes w/ 30-31 May.

    Just for fun, Baxtered:

    CON 30
    LAB 531
    LIB 53
    REF 0
    GRN 1
    SNP 13
    PLC 4

    Labour majority of 412.
    What is the most recent example in the Western World of a party having as high a majority as this, in an actual democracy?
    I'd guess it's pretty unlikely in proportional representation systems or the like. FPTP, on the other hand, tends to give quasi-stable two-party equilibria that, when they do flip, lead to dramatic changes of fortune.
    Three weeks before the 2010 Hungarian election, Fidesz were polling as high as 64 and 67%. In the end they acheived 53% and 68% of the seats. That was on a an AMS system IIRC.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,358
    @estwebber

    Thinking about this from a few months ago on Sunak's failure to visit Germany

    Feels like his man-in-a-hurry thing plus delegating diplomacy to Cameron seeded yesterday's disastrous error

    https://x.com/estwebber/status/1799101660637380946
  • TazTaz Posts: 13,605
    DM_Andy said:

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/1799084699052314745

    Not possible to overstate scale of anger from Tory MPs. One says: “If this had happened outside the election, he’d be gone. The letters would be in”.
    If Dan tweets about the explosion in anger of Tory MPs every day, one day Dan will be right.
    The same principle applies to forecasters of economic downturns.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,358
    And, we're off..

    @MirrorPolitics

    Tory election candidate quits after sharing inappropriate photos from club nights for kids

    https://x.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1799100568318931308
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860



    Official Labour Party poster.

    That's crass and shit.

    But it's also politics.

    I look forward to Labour being treated similarly.
    That’s very good.

    Doubt that it’s an actual Lab poster though. Where’d you see it?
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 22,458
    edited June 7

    Is there any chance that Sunak left early because Big Z said he only wanted to talk to Starmer?

    Who knows? It's as good an explanation as any.

    The big question I asked this morning – and nobody has been able to answer is: why did Rishi leave? What was the reason for it? An ITN chat seems a ludicrously trivial reason, makes no sense on any level.
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,480
    TOPPING said:

    If the Cons had any sense about them or were tactically astute they would somehow imply that Reform were being racist and criticism of his actions yesterday were questioning Rishi's Britishness and that this was typical of their attitude to a British Asian.

    Why only today a noted PB poster said words to that effect.

    Starmer, noticeably, hasn't attacked Rishi and I'm guessing this is one reason why.

    If CCHQ put it out there that these attacks are racist then they dry up instantly.

    Not sure 'playing the race card' would be a very effective strategy with the actual voters making a decision between Reform or Sunak, as opposed to the electorate as a whole. The fundamental problem is Sunak is bang to rights on this so saying criticism is racist is only going to make it worse.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 50,604
    If Starmer does become unpopular quite quickly in office then the following election might be a contest for power between the Lib Dems and Reform.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 21,448



    Official Labour Party poster.

    That doesn't look like an official Labour Party poster, where's the print in the bottom left corner saying who authorised it, which is normally on official election posters?
  • PedestrianRockPedestrianRock Posts: 578
    https://x.com/tomorrowsmps/status/1799099753634128305?s=46

    I'm told Reform Party were expecting to field candidates in 80-90% of seats, which is about 520 to 590, not quite the full slate Richard Tice promised. That will make lot harder to beat Conservatives on popular vote
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,149
    Regarding that poster supposedly from Labour, with no branding and no imprint. Really? . I’m not even convinced it’s not been photoshopped over a different poster image. I think there are grounds to be pretty dubious that it’s real. I think we shouldn’t allow ourselves to lean into our biases. I don’t think it’s real.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 22,458
    ToryJim said:

    Regarding that poster supposedly from Labour, with no branding and no imprint. Really? . I’m not even convinced it’s not been photoshopped over a different poster image. I think there are grounds to be pretty dubious that it’s real. I think we shouldn’t allow ourselves to lean into our biases. I don’t think it’s real.

    It's rather clever, but also somewhat harsh and OTT. The fact that the image is low-res and looks hacked together makes me wonder if you could be right.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    ToryJim said:

    Regarding that poster supposedly from Labour, with no branding and no imprint. Really? . I’m not even convinced it’s not been photoshopped over a different poster image. I think there are grounds to be pretty dubious that it’s real. I think we shouldn’t allow ourselves to lean into our biases. I don’t think it’s real.

    Well, simply getting it made and put up in that space of time would be tricky enough.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,271
    DougSeal said:

    It seems like incredibly old news now but worth noting that the debate had no effect on VI and the 2K Lie might actually have depressed the Tory score somewhat. Just caught up with Question Time and it was very bad indeed on the 2K Lie for the Tories. Any short term gain they might have got from 'landing' it on the night rapidly unravelled, and backfired.

    Another big call @MoonRabbit got right. Kudos to her.

    Yes. Fair play to her. An amazing turn around in form. She's made a few good calls lately.
    Especially since re: the Great Debate MR was herself caught up in the hope if not glory of RS's performance.

    Her subsequent analysis was more cogent. In addition to her own intellect, am guessing that views of her father (who she frequently cites) may have had something to do with this?

    That was certainly the case for me with my own father. He was (and still is) NOT responsible for my fool opinions, but he did (and still does) remain a major factor in my (so-called) thinking.
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 4,686
    eek said:

    Taz said:

    Chameleon said:

    Harwood reporting that canvassers are finding things have got worse as well… https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1799091605476909272?s=46&t=DjGzxV4_2K3JqT59XIU6Lg

    We were discussing crossover before all this!

    You beat me to it. Sub 100 seats incoming ?
    Bet365 - Tories less than 50 seats now 10/3..

    Labour 500 seats or more 6/1

    Feeling slightly smug that I tipped Labour 500+ seats at 25/1 on Betfair Exchange a week ago (currently trading at 8/1 over there). Stuck twenty quid on it intending it to be a trading bet, reckon I will keep it now for the lolz.

    Fwiw, I don't think Labour will reach 500 seats but I do see them coming close. 450+ feels nailed on, unless anything changes.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 16,541

    In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.

    Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.

    What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?

    Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?

    Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
    There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?

    What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
    The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.

    To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?
    If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?
    What? Just go up and chin Rayner? Yeah that might work.
    Penny needs to focus on holding her seat, where she is behind but not doomed according to the YouGov MRP. Try and crowbar in a few references to Portsmouth!
    It's not as if D Day isn't important in South East Hampshire.

    Portsmouth, Fareham, that sort of place.

    (Gosport as well, but who cares about Caroline Dinenage?)
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 7,065

    Is there any chance that Sunak left early because Big Z said he only wanted to talk to Starmer?

    This seems very unlikely in practice. He met Cameron only the other day and, whilst I am sure foreign governments are working on a presumption of Conservative defeat, there's no benefit in taking the risk of a deliberate snub.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 22,458
    edited June 7
    @Topping – yes, I thought there was some thinly veiled racism in Farage's "not a patriotic Prime Minister" comment.
  • PJHPJH Posts: 618
    Foxy said:

    Farooq said:

    @MarqueeMark

    Any sign of D-Day on the doorstep?

    I note big swing to LD with squeeze of Lab in Torquay council last night, but narrow Tory hold.

    I wonder if we will here similar story in South Devon.

    Last night's Wellswood (Torbay) council by-election result:

    CON: 42.3% (-21.1)
    LDEM: 41.9% (+41.9)
    REF: 8.5% (+8.5)
    LAB: 5.3% (-19.6)
    GRN: 1.5% (-10.1)
    WP: 0.5% (+0.5)

    Valid votes cast: 2,217

    Conservative HOLD.
    Lab didn't stand last time, LD did. So LD is up 17%; Green+Lab down 5 on Green last time so possibly a squeeze.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,551
    edited June 7
    Chris said:



    Official Labour Party poster.

    I sincerely hope that's a joke.

    No it's true. Sunak left a bunch of ex-heroes and Statesmen on the beaches of Normandy so he could go back to Blighty for a photo-op and interview.

    Fire up the Huey.

    Edit: Don't be too precious the poster wrote itself.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,369
    Farooq said:

    Taz said:

    Rishi Sunak playing Brewsters Millions

    https://x.com/cjsnowdon/status/1799085361219735965?s=61

    Honey, I Shrunk The Party
    The Lost Tories
    Top Gone

    and

    Coming To America
    Apocalypse now.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,314
    ToryJim said:

    Regarding that poster supposedly from Labour, with no branding and no imprint. Really? . I’m not even convinced it’s not been photoshopped over a different poster image. I think there are grounds to be pretty dubious that it’s real. I think we shouldn’t allow ourselves to lean into our biases. I don’t think it’s real.

    Their other social media ‘posters’ don’t have an imprint, at least not on their Twitter posts from the official @UKLabour account.

    But this particular ‘poster’ doesn’t appear on that account at all.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,551

    Chris said:



    Official Labour Party poster.

    I sincerely hope that's a joke.

    No it's true. Sunak left a bunch of ex-heroes and Statesmen on the beaches of Normandy so he could go back to Blighty for a photo-op and interview.

    Fire up the Huey.
    Edit. Don't be too precious. The poster wrote itself.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 22,458
    Scott_xP said:

    And, we're off..

    @MirrorPolitics

    Tory election candidate quits after sharing inappropriate photos from club nights for kids

    https://x.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1799100568318931308

    Oh god, that sounds grim
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,358
    edited June 7
    deleted
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,357
    Chameleon said:

    Jo Gideon (Outgoing Stoke Central MP) launching a rather scathing attack on the party.

    Is she defecting to RefUK?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 16,910

    I really do think we should accept that if Jezza had not stood in 2019, the Tories would not have won.

    I do not agree. 2019 was not JUST Corbyn. There was a very strong mood to get Brexit over the line. The public were sick of politicians failing to honour the vote.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,172
    Scott_xP said:

    And, we're off..

    @MirrorPolitics

    Tory election candidate quits after sharing inappropriate photos from club nights for kids

    https://x.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1799100568318931308

    Ah. Spen Valley. A Tory chance if things were going sort of OK for them. Might be why my local list isn't up yet.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,369

    Is there any chance that Sunak left early because Big Z said he only wanted to talk to Starmer?

    This seems very unlikely in practice. He met Cameron only the other day and, whilst I am sure foreign governments are working on a presumption of Conservative defeat, there's no benefit in taking the risk of a deliberate snub.
    I think also, on a human level, he’s had many meetings with Sunak and they seemed to get on well so he’s got no reason to snub someone who kept up the support and they didn’t have any personal animosity or coolness.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,551
    Do we really think Rishi could be subbed in the tenth minute of time added?
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,149
    Sandpit said:

    ToryJim said:

    Regarding that poster supposedly from Labour, with no branding and no imprint. Really? . I’m not even convinced it’s not been photoshopped over a different poster image. I think there are grounds to be pretty dubious that it’s real. I think we shouldn’t allow ourselves to lean into our biases. I don’t think it’s real.

    Their other social media ‘posters’ don’t have an imprint, at least not on their Twitter posts from the official @UKLabour account.

    But this particular ‘poster’ doesn’t appear on that account at all.
    Yeah it’s why I’m dubious. I think it’s just some clicktivist doing it and then confirmation bias juicing it up.
  • I really do think we should accept that if Jezza had not stood in 2019, the Tories would not have won.

    I do not agree. 2019 was not JUST Corbyn. There was a very strong mood to get Brexit over the line. The public were sick of politicians failing to honour the vote.
    I think I am right.
  • DM_AndyDM_Andy Posts: 1,127

    In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.

    Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.

    What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?

    Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?

    Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
    There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?

    What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
    The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.

    To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?
    If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?
    What? Just go up and chin Rayner? Yeah that might work.
    Penny needs to focus on holding her seat, where she is behind but not doomed according to the YouGov MRP. Try and crowbar in a few references to Portsmouth!
    It's not as if D Day isn't important in South East Hampshire.

    Portsmouth, Fareham, that sort of place.

    (Gosport as well, but who cares about Caroline Dinenage?)
    I've got Gosport down as a Tory hold. They didn't do that badly in the council elections, Electoral Calculus is considering Labour as the challengers but Lib Dems run the local council. Dinenage should get high 30s and get through the middle.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,358

    Do we really think Rishi could be subbed in the tenth minute of time added?

    Better than keeping him on the pitch
  • PedestrianRockPedestrianRock Posts: 578
    kyf_100 said:

    eek said:

    Taz said:

    Chameleon said:

    Harwood reporting that canvassers are finding things have got worse as well… https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1799091605476909272?s=46&t=DjGzxV4_2K3JqT59XIU6Lg

    We were discussing crossover before all this!

    You beat me to it. Sub 100 seats incoming ?
    Bet365 - Tories less than 50 seats now 10/3..

    Labour 500 seats or more 6/1

    Feeling slightly smug that I tipped Labour 500+ seats at 25/1 on Betfair Exchange a week ago (currently trading at 8/1 over there). Stuck twenty quid on it intending it to be a trading bet, reckon I will keep it now for the lolz.

    Fwiw, I don't think Labour will reach 500 seats but I do see them coming close. 450+ feels nailed on, unless anything changes.
    Thank you so much for this tip. I’m on at 15.5 so not as good as you, but similarly wanted it to be a trading bet that I’m now thinking of keeping.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,687

    Chris said:



    Official Labour Party poster.

    I sincerely hope that's a joke.

    No it's true. Sunak left a bunch of ex-heroes and Statesmen on the beaches of Normandy so he could go back to Blighty for a photo-op and interview.

    Fire up the Huey.

    Edit: Don't be too precious the poster wrote itself.
    I mean I hope it's not an official Labour poster.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,135

    Do we really think Rishi could be subbed in the tenth minute of time added?

    No.
  • New HORSE campaign poster:

    https://imgur.com/a/4M5ya79
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,149
    Andy_JS said:

    Chameleon said:

    Jo Gideon (Outgoing Stoke Central MP) launching a rather scathing attack on the party.

    Is she defecting to RefUK?
    No but she absolutely eviscerates internal party processes. It’s well worth reading her thread. I suspect there will be more such stuff after the election.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,271
    NYT - British Leader Apologizes for Leaving D-Day Commemoration Early
    Prime Minister Rishi Sunak conceded that he made a major public relations misstep in the heat of a general election campaign.

    Prime Minister Rishi Sunak of Britain apologized on Friday for leaving early from a D-Day commemoration in France, admitting to a major public relations misstep in the heat of a general election campaign.

    “After the conclusion of the British event in Normandy, I returned back to the UK,” Mr. Sunak wrote on the social media platform X. “On reflection, it was a mistake not to stay in France longer — and I apologise.” . . .

    ITV’s U.K. editor, Paul Brand, said the broadcaster had been trying to schedule an interview with Mr. Sunak for a long time. “Today was the slot they offered us,” he said to ITV’s “News at Ten” program. “We don’t know why.”

    SSI - This is pretty much a blip on the radar screen here, of interest only to political junkies who include UK politics in their orbit.

    For one thing, Rishi Sunak is virtually unknown on this side of the Atlantic (and Pacific). Even less known that Keir Starmer which ain't saying much. For another, few Americans who DO know that RS is PM and running for re-election (so to speak) are seething with outrage. However, we (in non-royal sense) do think it was (yet another) weird blunder.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,172
    Pro_Rata said:

    Scott_xP said:

    And, we're off..

    @MirrorPolitics

    Tory election candidate quits after sharing inappropriate photos from club nights for kids

    https://x.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1799100568318931308

    Ah. Spen Valley. A Tory chance if things were going sort of OK for them. Might be why my local list isn't up yet.
    And they're in - the withdrawal shown and a last minute Con nominee parachuted in from an address in Altrincham & Sale West

    Full slates of the 5 parties, no WPGB, but a couple of Muslim named Inds in Spen & in Dewsbury
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,462



    Official Labour Party poster.

    That's crass and shit.

    But it's also politics.

    I look forward to Labour being treated similarly.
    The Tories said SKS failed to prosecute Jimmy Saville.
    As I said. It's crass and shit.

    But it's politics.
  • eekeek Posts: 27,481
    DM_Andy said:


    In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.

    Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.

    What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?

    Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?

    Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
    There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?

    What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
    The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.

    To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?
    If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?
    What? Just go up and chin Rayner? Yeah that might work.
    Penny needs to focus on holding her seat, where she is behind but not doomed according to the YouGov MRP. Try and crowbar in a few references to Portsmouth!
    It's not as if D Day isn't important in South East Hampshire.

    Portsmouth, Fareham, that sort of place.

    (Gosport as well, but who cares about Caroline Dinenage?)
    I've got Gosport down as a Tory hold. They didn't do that badly in the council elections, Electoral Calculus is considering Labour as the challengers but Lib Dems run the local council. Dinenage should get high 30s and get through the middle.
    It's the fact that the opposition is split that gives the Tories a chance there.

    Just put a fiver on Labour to win Richmondshire and Northallerton at 3/1...
  • NickyBreakspearNickyBreakspear Posts: 760
    7 Candidates in St Albans - LD, C, L, G, R, SDP, Heritage
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 16,960

    In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.

    Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.

    What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?

    Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?

    Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
    There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?

    What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
    The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.

    To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?
    If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?
    Yup. "Look no-one expects Sunak to be around after July 4. We're looking ahead."
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,258

    I really do think we should accept that if Jezza had not stood in 2019, the Tories would not have won.

    I do not agree. 2019 was not JUST Corbyn. There was a very strong mood to get Brexit over the line. The public were sick of politicians failing to honour the vote.
    And Johnson was popular in those Red Wall Leave seats on which the Cons GE19 victory was built.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,149
    🚨 NEW: Controversial priest and commentator Calvin Robinson has been expelled from the Tories for allegedly supporting Tommy Robinson and posting anti-Muslim tweets

    It’s all happening today
  • eekeek Posts: 27,481
    @Tomorrow'sMPs
    @tomorrowsmps
    🔵 Conservative HQ tell me they have managed to nominate candidates in all but one seat, and that seat is "unwinnable".


    Robert Hutton
    @RobDotHutton
    Right now, that might mean Beaconsfield.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,551
    Scott_xP said:

    Do we really think Rishi could be subbed in the tenth minute of time added?

    Better than keeping him on the pitch
    Wouldn't that just be so absurd?
  • sladeslade Posts: 1,989
    Foxy said:

    Farooq said:

    @MarqueeMark

    Any sign of D-Day on the doorstep?

    I note big swing to LD with squeeze of Lab in Torquay council last night, but narrow Tory hold.

    I wonder if we will here similar story in South Devon.

    Last night's Wellswood (Torbay) council by-election result:

    CON: 42.3% (-21.1)
    LDEM: 41.9% (+41.9)
    REF: 8.5% (+8.5)
    LAB: 5.3% (-19.6)
    GRN: 1.5% (-10.1)
    WP: 0.5% (+0.5)

    Valid votes cast: 2,217

    Conservative HOLD.
    Foxy - those change figures are wrong. LDM should be +17.0, Lab +5.3. So it was Lab intervention that let the Con win.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,357
    ToryJim said:

    🚨 NEW: Controversial priest and commentator Calvin Robinson has been expelled from the Tories for allegedly supporting Tommy Robinson and posting anti-Muslim tweets

    It’s all happening today

    Never occurred to me he was still in the Tories.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,258
    Just to say, I don't want a humungous Labour majority at the price of empowering Farage. I'll take the vanilla landslide.
  • Andy_JS said:

    ToryJim said:

    🚨 NEW: Controversial priest and commentator Calvin Robinson has been expelled from the Tories for allegedly supporting Tommy Robinson and posting anti-Muslim tweets

    It’s all happening today

    Never occurred to me he was still in the Tories.
    He's an absolute nutter. Genuinely off his rocker.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 16,541
    DM_Andy said:


    In the debate tonight, Rayner is going to complain that this election was their chance to get themselves across, and explain to the voters the detail and minutia of all their plans for government, but Sunak is deliberately drowning this out and hogging the narrative, with constant stories of his own ineptitude.

    Senior Labour sources are upset the voters will go into election day still unclear what Labours actual plans are. They believed the focus of the campaign would be on them and their policies, and suspect Sunak deliberately pulled his Dunkirk Moment stunt to continue to lock Labour out from its deserved special moment in the spotlight.

    What's your preview on the all-important Battle of the Big Hair?

    Any inside track from the Beeb's hair and makeup team?

    Red Angela for the win or Blue Penny to sail away with victory?
    There will be plenty of other hair on the platform… well, from six of the debaters at least, so we should be fair and divide attention equally amongst it all?

    What would they do in make up with Stephen from Scotland? Too glossy and it could reflect the lights, and prove a distraction advantage when he’s speaking? So a Matt finish on the old egg shell?
    The Tory answers clearly laid out by Sunak, for his party to follow - waiting lists are down, boat crossings are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, the 2K Lie wasn’t made up by SPADs in an echo chamber the treasury really did do most of it.

    To what extent is everyone else lined up now with responses, soundbites, even cutting jokes to each of those ridiculous lies. So tonight really is all about Penny. How does she answer?
    If I were Penny I’d just go rogue to be honest. What’s the worst that could happen?
    What? Just go up and chin Rayner? Yeah that might work.
    Penny needs to focus on holding her seat, where she is behind but not doomed according to the YouGov MRP. Try and crowbar in a few references to Portsmouth!
    It's not as if D Day isn't important in South East Hampshire.

    Portsmouth, Fareham, that sort of place.

    (Gosport as well, but who cares about Caroline Dinenage?)
    I've got Gosport down as a Tory hold. They didn't do that badly in the council elections, Electoral Calculus is considering Labour as the challengers but Lib Dems run the local council. Dinenage should get high 30s and get through the middle.
    Mostly agree about Gosport. Can't remember who came up with the "50% of Cons in 2019 plays Lab in 2017" model, but she's OK on that. And a lot of the failure of Gosport Council Conservatives is piling up lots of votes on too few places.

    But D Day.

    You do not mess with D Day commemorations in Gosport.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,149

    Andy_JS said:

    ToryJim said:

    🚨 NEW: Controversial priest and commentator Calvin Robinson has been expelled from the Tories for allegedly supporting Tommy Robinson and posting anti-Muslim tweets

    It’s all happening today

    Never occurred to me he was still in the Tories.
    He's an absolute nutter. Genuinely off his rocker.
    I’m surprised he hasn’t been defrocked by now.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,796



    Official Labour Party poster.

    Labour have a really good ad agency who I imagine is responsible for that. Ironically called 'Lucky Generals'. There should be a few classics during this campaign. The Tories must be doing theirs in house. Their PPB certainly looked like it!
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,357
    NO TORY CANDIDATE IN ROTHERHAM.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,357
    "Politics UK
    @PolitlcsUK
    ·
    Follow
    🚨 BREAKING: Tory candidate for Spen Valley Adam Gregg has quit after inappropriate photos of underage girls he posted online resurfaced

    He quit minutes before the deadline for candidates to enter/withdraw

    [@DailyMirror]"

    https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1799104035418464461
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,731
    slade said:

    Foxy said:

    Farooq said:

    @MarqueeMark

    Any sign of D-Day on the doorstep?

    I note big swing to LD with squeeze of Lab in Torquay council last night, but narrow Tory hold.

    I wonder if we will here similar story in South Devon.

    Last night's Wellswood (Torbay) council by-election result:

    CON: 42.3% (-21.1)
    LDEM: 41.9% (+41.9)
    REF: 8.5% (+8.5)
    LAB: 5.3% (-19.6)
    GRN: 1.5% (-10.1)
    WP: 0.5% (+0.5)

    Valid votes cast: 2,217

    Conservative HOLD.
    Foxy - those change figures are wrong. LDM should be +17.0, Lab +5.3. So it was Lab intervention that let the Con win.
    My source was:

    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1798968636864119149?t=HAZmmfGEGpNT-kEqHDajFQ&s=19
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,206
    kinabalu said:

    Just to say, I don't want a humungous Labour majority at the price of empowering Farage. I'll take the vanilla landslide.

    wuss.

    that just means we get to rubbish Starmer for the next five years.

    we need some variety
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,271
    CUP 2024 general election "campaign" reminds me of the POTUS 1988 general election "campaign" of Democratic nominee Mike Dukakis.

    Speaking as one who back then was cursing and throwing things at my TV set. watching Dukakis and Democratic hopes of regaining the White House going down in flames, as he & his "advisers" kept throwing more gasoline on the fires while Lee Atwater (remember him?) kept lighting match after match.

    You (or at least I) can blame Atwater for the "Willy Horton" ads . . . but NOT for Mike Dukakis answering question about his reaction IF his own wife was murdered - during a freaking POTUS debate - with a learned discourse on the rights of the accused.

    Sunak & CUP appear to be plumbing for similar abysmal depths.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,551
    edited June 7
    kinabalu said:

    Just to say, I don't want a humungous Labour majority at the price of empowering Farage. I'll take the vanilla landslide.

    A 30 to 40 seat majority would do me.

    I am sensing I might be wrong about 1992 redux. That is not necessarily my fault. I couldn't have countenanced the sub-Johnson clown show. Although there is nearly a month to go, so it's not a done deal yet
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,314
    Statements of persons nominated should all be published now.
  • DM_AndyDM_Andy Posts: 1,127
    No Holly Valance in Basildon & Billericay but Dick Holden is listed as [address in the Bishop Auckland constituency] which I imagine the Basildon resident running for the Labour Party will make a big deal of.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,092
    eek said:

    @Tomorrow'sMPs
    @tomorrowsmps
    🔵 Conservative HQ tell me they have managed to nominate candidates in all but one seat, and that seat is "unwinnable".


    Robert Hutton
    @RobDotHutton
    Right now, that might mean Beaconsfield.

    Ilford North?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilford_North_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
  • Andy_JS said:

    "Politics UK
    @PolitlcsUK
    ·
    Follow
    🚨 BREAKING: Tory candidate for Spen Valley Adam Gregg has quit after inappropriate photos of underage girls he posted online resurfaced

    He quit minutes before the deadline for candidates to enter/withdraw

    [@DailyMirror]"

    https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1799104035418464461

    What on Earth? Hope this has been reported to the police?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 10,196
    eek said:

    @Tomorrow'sMPs
    @tomorrowsmps
    🔵 Conservative HQ tell me they have managed to nominate candidates in all but one seat, and that seat is "unwinnable".


    Robert Hutton
    @RobDotHutton
    Right now, that might mean Beaconsfield.

    When was the last time that the Conservatives didn’t stand in every GB seat (excluding the Speaker’s)?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 16,541
    ToryJim said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ToryJim said:

    🚨 NEW: Controversial priest and commentator Calvin Robinson has been expelled from the Tories for allegedly supporting Tommy Robinson and posting anti-Muslim tweets

    It’s all happening today

    Never occurred to me he was still in the Tories.
    He's an absolute nutter. Genuinely off his rocker.
    I’m surprised he hasn’t been defrocked by now.
    The Church of England never frocked him in the first place. His deaconing was with the (fringe) Free Church of England and his pristine by the (I had to look them up) Nordic Catholic Church.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,135
    kinabalu said:

    Just to say, I don't want a humungous Labour majority at the price of empowering Farage. I'll take the vanilla landslide.

    Too late, its a de facto done deal after DDgate.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 50,604

    kinabalu said:

    Just to say, I don't want a humungous Labour majority at the price of empowering Farage. I'll take the vanilla landslide.

    A 30 to 40 seat majority would do me.

    I am sensing I might be wrong about 1992 redux. That is not necessarily my fault. I couldn't have countenanced the sub-Johnson clown show. Although there is nearly a month to go, so it's not a done deal yet
    Truss would have had more chance of turning things around.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,357
    edited June 7
    A random selection of statements of persons nominated, for people who like that sort of thing. 😊 (Hope this many links aren't too annoying).

    https://www.luton.gov.uk/Council_government_and_democracy/Lists/LutonDocuments/PDF/Voting and elections/election-july-2024/statement-of-person-nominated-and-notice-of-poll-luton-north.pdf
    https://www.stalbans.gov.uk/sites/default/files/attachments/Statement of persons nominated and notice of poll_Harpenden and Berkhamsted 4 July 2024.pdf
    https://www.stalbans.gov.uk/sites/default/files/attachments/Statement of persons nominated and notice of poll_St Albans 4 July 2024.pdf
    https://www.midsussex.gov.uk/media/uxintccw/east-grinstead-and-uckfield-sopn-nop.pdf
    https://www.midsussex.gov.uk/media/ji1bj0rd/mid-sussex-sopn-nop.pdf
    https://www.highpeak.gov.uk/media/9290/Statement-of-Persons-Nominated-Notice-of-Poll-and-Situation-of-Polling-Stations/pdf/Statement_of_Persons_Nominated_Notice_of_Poll_and_Situation_of_Polling_Stations.pdf?m=1717774865887
    https://n-somerset.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2024-06/7 Jun - statement of persons nominated, notice of poll and location of polling stations - Weston-super-Mare constituency.pdf
    https://rdcpublic.blob.core.windows.net/website-uploads/2024/06/Statement-of-Persons-Nominated-Notice-of-Poll-and-Situation-of-Polling-Stations-UKPGE-2024.pdf
    https://www.stratford.gov.uk/doc/212829/name/Statement of Persons Nominated Notice of Poll and Situation of Polling Stations.pdf/
    https://n-somerset.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2024-06/7 Jun - statement of persons nominated, notice of poll and location of polling stations - North Somerset constituency.pdf
    https://www.westlancs.gov.uk/media/547768/statement-of-persons-nominated-general-election-2024-west-lancashire.pdf
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