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  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,943

    It is over for Johnson by sound of things.

    If so it would be ironic that it was him lying about someone else's drunken fondling.
    And of a male too.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,823
    kamski said:

    Have you got anything from Obama apart from him joking on James Corden's show?
    When Obama says what he says on Corden, he absolutely isn't joking. He goes from affable to serious. Here, watch it for yourself. It's at the start so it's easy


    https://twitter.com/AdamGoldsack/status/1543833019705950209?s=20&t=NTcHEXq1aARg4seDhYxQiA
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 7,286
    edited July 2022
    Scott_xP said:

    He is due at the liaison committee tomorrow, so Kyiv nailed on...
    Poor Zelensky. It's like offering your sofa to a guy at work who's going through a messy divorce for a couple of nights while he gets back on his feet, then finding he's had the post redirected and signed up for a Sky Sports package on an 18 month contract.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,555

    I think the PM is about to be caught the Pincher movement from Tory rebels.

    He's going to need a hell of a lot of grease to get out of this one to be honest.

  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    OT - Not just Pincher pinching. Also BJBJ.

    Which is worse, that is, for PM and his Tory collaborators? Takes yer choice, picks yer poison.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,678
    Sadiq Khan for PM, best policy ever from a Labour person.


    EXCL: The Metropolitan Police could be split up with national and local policing roles hived off, the Mayor of London has suggested, in an interview with MyLondon
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,943
    edited July 2022
    Scott_xP said:

    It is time for cabinet colleagues to recognise the appalling damage that the Prime Minister is doing to the party, government and country.

    It isn’t good enough and each day that passes those who sit in cabinet will be more complicit with this farcical situation.

    Time4change.

    https://twitter.com/AnthonyMangnal1/status/1544345785726185472

    Party, government, country.
    In that order.
    Sums up their priorities perfectly.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,136
    BoZo is about to do a pooled TV clip
  • RH1992RH1992 Posts: 788
    Scott_xP said:

    @SamCoatesSky 🚨 BREAKING: Thérèse Coffey resigns: "I'm out of options to support the Prime Minister. He routinely deceives viewers on morning television, using me and many others as his mouthpiece, for which I've had enough. With regret, I have submitted my resignation to the Prime Minister."
    https://twitter.com/2004__harry/status/1544344771245785090

    That's mean. You had me going for a quarter of a second there.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,555

    Blowjobgate? I have a vague idea of what the others are…
    Not sure that was promoted to the official designation of a "Gate" status to be fair.

    Private Eye had some Ugandian-style details of life in Johnson's FOC office.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,823
    Scott_xP said:

    @SamCoatesSky 🚨 BREAKING: Thérèse Coffey resigns: "I'm out of options to support the Prime Minister. He routinely deceives viewers on morning television, using me and many others as his mouthpiece, for which I've had enough. With regret, I have submitted my resignation to the Prime Minister."
    https://twitter.com/2004__harry/status/1544344771245785090

    That look of hatred this morning was real

    He is toast, now. It is over
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,764
    edited July 2022
    Scott_xP said:

    @SamCoatesSky 🚨 BREAKING: Thérèse Coffey resigns: "I'm out of options to support the Prime Minister. He routinely deceives viewers on morning television, using me and many others as his mouthpiece, for which I've had enough. With regret, I have submitted my resignation to the Prime Minister."
    https://twitter.com/2004__harry/status/1544344771245785090

    Finally a minister shows some self respect.
    It was definitely not the look of love in those shots of cabinet this morning.

    (edit)
    Or she doesn't.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,943
    Scott_xP said:

    @SamCoatesSky 🚨 BREAKING: Thérèse Coffey resigns: "I'm out of options to support the Prime Minister. He routinely deceives viewers on morning television, using me and many others as his mouthpiece, for which I've had enough. With regret, I have submitted my resignation to the Prime Minister."
    https://twitter.com/2004__harry/status/1544344771245785090

    Hallelujah.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,823
    Eek, was I spoofed?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,161

    Those who believe a snap election is possible, can you offer any precedents? Are there any examples of politicians, in any democracy, choosing to call a snap election while this far behind in the polls? (So, not including sudden elections because a coalition collapses.) What's the worst polling for a PM or equivalent who then called a snap election... and how did they do?
    Boris Johnson's track record is of someone who defies precedent.

    By the example of precedent we have learnt the rule that divided parties lose elections. Johnson expelled many of his own MPs, exposing the divisions in his party to the country, and won an 80-seat majority.

    I'm not saying it's a good idea. I'm not predicting that it will happen. All I'm saying is that you can never be sure with Johnson, and I certainly would be nervous that he might win.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    edited July 2022
    RH1992 said:

    Well he's not wrong and only echo chamber FBPEs deny there are any opportunities whatsoever.

    There are opportunities to be taken from Brexit, the real argument is whether those opportunities are worth the massive upheaval and shock. Since the latter has already happened, may as well press ahead with the former, no point staying still.
    We agree, but my point is perhaps a too-subtle-one about what Brexit is and what it delivers.

    It’s like a regrettable divorce. It would be a bit mad to talk about “divorce opportunities”, even if, objectively, you can now go on dates.

    Keir should generally frame Brexit as “done” and “in the past”, rather than suggesting there is still some better Brexit to be grasped.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,030
    Scott_xP said:

    @SamCoatesSky 🚨 BREAKING: Thérèse Coffey resigns: "I'm out of options to support the Prime Minister. He routinely deceives viewers on morning television, using me and many others as his mouthpiece, for which I've had enough. With regret, I have submitted my resignation to the Prime Minister."
    https://twitter.com/2004__harry/status/1544344771245785090

    Great news for once
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,678
    Scott_xP said:

    @SamCoatesSky 🚨 BREAKING: Thérèse Coffey resigns: "I'm out of options to support the Prime Minister. He routinely deceives viewers on morning television, using me and many others as his mouthpiece, for which I've had enough. With regret, I have submitted my resignation to the Prime Minister."
    https://twitter.com/2004__harry/status/1544344771245785090


    It’s from a Twitter account with 82 followers
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,156
    Is it possible that Brady goes to Boris and says “I now have more letters than 50% by a mile even after giving the opportunity to withdraw and we are changing the rules next Wednesday - giving you the option to walk off now rather than being turfed out in a week” - surely Boris would go at that point?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,823
    Nigelb said:

    Finally a minister shows some self respect.
    It was definitely not the look of love in those shots of cabinet this morning.
    It's a silly fake news story. I think
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,823
    Scott_xP said:

    @SamCoatesSky 🚨 BREAKING: Thérèse Coffey resigns: "I'm out of options to support the Prime Minister. He routinely deceives viewers on morning television, using me and many others as his mouthpiece, for which I've had enough. With regret, I have submitted my resignation to the Prime Minister."
    https://twitter.com/2004__harry/status/1544344771245785090


    EDIT: NOBODY ELSE REPORTNG THIS

    So you were fooled as well. lol
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,778
    IshmaelZ said:

    Dunno who Curtis is but never seen a clearer illustration that explaining equals losing
    Nah - he’s not explaining.

    He thought he had a scoop but people were taking the piss. He’s now back-pedalling as fast as he can with the old “ha ha it was a joke” line
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203

    Love it. Can I adopt it to sit alongside my usual "catastofuck"?
    Take it; it’s yours.
    I doubt I’m the first person to come up with it.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,405
    Leon said:

    It's a silly fake news story. I think
    It is quite obviously fake news. A member of Boris Johnson's Cabinet showing even a milligram of decency or self-respect? Nah.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,943
    Too good to be true.
    I need to go to the supermarket.
    Was going to buy popcorn.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    Was obvious spoof. Language was too informal. Shame, though.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,555
    fitalass said:

    Just desperate, not even Boris would risk leaving Office in the way John Major did in 1997..
    In current circumstances, I am pretty sure the Palace would let it be known that they would refuse a dissolution.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    edited July 2022

    In current circumstances, I am pretty sure the Palace would let it be known that they would refuse a dissolution.
    Especially if Charles is at his desk.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    edited July 2022
    Leon said:

    I know all about the Chilean UFO story, I have read the entire works of Mick West. Do keep up

    Moving on swiftly: Joe Rogan has a new theory (and his opinion is as good as any, as he has interviewed everyone in this story) the USG has an incredible new drone technology, which they want to keep secret, and this whole Flap is an attempt to smokescreen that

    https://twitter.com/UAPJames/status/1543974977363394562?s=20&t=ZRFcmuvEZfTC1dqLARj3xQ


    Watch from minute 8:00

    That's not a bad theory. It explains a few things - like the anguished behaviour of the CIA director and the DNI woman, they are either acting the anguish, or really anguished by their own lies

    It also fits with previous US behaviour

    However it doesn't fit with the evidence going back decades, and would an ex president like Obama really join in with this? Hmm
    Did you see Rogan’s interview with Bob Lazar
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=BEWz4SXfyCQ

    Nearly 40m views, Lazar was the contractor who claims to have worked at Area 51 trying to reverse-engineer an alien spacecraft.

    Rogan has subsequently said that he found Lazar’s story to be plausible and consistent.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,255
    Omnium said:

    This isn't correct - theories are just guesses. A good theory fits the known evidence and makes predictions that can be tested. Theories are not built up in the way you suggest.

    See below for a good example - I suggest a theory, and it's immediately shot down. A chap called Popper had rather too much to say on such things!
    Wrong. What you are referring to are hypotheses. And I am well aware of Popper and what he had to say about these things.

    There is a clear difference between hypothesis and theory in science. A theory is definitely not just 'a guess'.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,555
    boulay said:

    Is it possible that Brady goes to Boris and says “I now have more letters than 50% by a mile even after giving the opportunity to withdraw and we are changing the rules next Wednesday - giving you the option to walk off now rather than being turfed out in a week” - surely Boris would go at that point?

    Nope. He would think something would turn up. Maybe Putin drops a tactical nuke or some such.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,482
    There must be a cabinet story (real or fake) that is propelling BF into the 1.80s for a 2022 exit.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,121
    edited July 2022
    ..
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,678
    edited July 2022
    boulay said:

    Is it possible that Brady goes to Boris and says “I now have more letters than 50% by a mile even after giving the opportunity to withdraw and we are changing the rules next Wednesday - giving you the option to walk off now rather than being turfed out in a week” - surely Boris would go at that point?

    That’s what Brady did to Theresa May.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,030
    IanB2 said:

    Good for her.

    Now about the others….. ?
    Not reported by the media

    Fake news ?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620
    fitalass said:

    In other news...

    Twitter
    Glenn Campbell@GlennBBC·57m
    “The Lord Advocate does not have the necessary degree of confidence”

    Scotland’s top law officer, Lord Advocate Dorothy Bain confirms she would not be able to “clear” a statement of legal competence for #indyref2 bill, without reference to @UKSupremeCourt

    https://gov.scot/binaries/conte

    https://twitter.com/GlennBBC/status/1544331934796595200


    Ruth Davidson@RuthDavidsonPC·6m
    “In the present case, the Lord Advocate does not have the necessary degree of confidence”

    Wonder why Scot Gov waited til 2 days after HR broke up to release this? No opportunity to question ministers or law officers for 7 weeks... 🤔

    Devastating.

    https://gov.scot/binaries/conte

    https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonPC/status/1544343852466769922

    You and Lady D are missing the point completely. The lack of clarity is the issue. .
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,235

    In current circumstances, I am pretty sure the Palace would let it be known that they would refuse a dissolution.
    Utter cant. Its not the job of HMQ to save the Tories from Boris leading them to electoral annihilation.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,607

    Lol. Mind you, the only time I've come near to having heat stroke was in Scotland...

    It actually has 41C for the following day in the south, but that's even less believable.

    Over 35C is a serious health problem though.
    Much UK large refrigeration plant is not designed to work above 35 C. If temperatures are significantly above that, it could be worrying for operators for cold stores, such as supermarket chains. 40 C and no ice cream doesn’t sound much fun.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,482

    Wrong. What you are referring to are hypotheses. And I am well aware of Popper and what he had to say about these things.

    There is a clear difference between hypothesis and theory in science. A theory is definitely not just 'a guess'.
    Happy to be called wrong if you explain the 'clear difference' between a hypothesis and a theory.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Sandpit said:

    Did you see Rogan’s interview with Bob Lazar
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=BEWz4SXfyCQ

    Nearly 40m views, Lazar was the contractor who claims to have worked at Area 51 trying to reverse-engineer an alien spacecraft.
    Lazar also namechecked Element 115 as the 'power source' in 1989 24 years before its discovery.
    He claims we were provided with some in stable state by our visitors.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,227
    MISTY said:

    An article I just read on the German energy crisis includes the disarming context phrase

    'the German economic model depends on cheap Russian gas'

    Which is...er....not great, really, is it.....

    Well, it follows in the Grand Tradition of German Strategic Plans - it turns out to be a total fucking disaster.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100
    So what’s different this time? Boris has been here before.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,722
    Carnyx said:

    You and Lady D are missing the point completely. The lack of clarity is the issue. .
    The law is clear. The point of all this is for Sturgeon to be seen to be doing something. When the Supreme Court says no, that’s great, another evil English scheme to oppress Scotland.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,156
    Pulpstar said:

    Utter cant. Its not the job of HMQ to save the Tories from Boris leading them to electoral annihilation.
    Are you from Essex - just trying to decide how to hear your comment in my head!
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,930
    Omnium said:

    Happy to be called wrong if you explain the 'clear difference' between a hypothesis and a theory.
    Gravity says hello.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,235
    boulay said:

    Are you from Essex - just trying to decide how to hear your comment in my head!
    Coventry
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,326

    He needs the entire Party onside for that. Especially the people funding it.

    Not. Happening.
    It works when Starmer and Rayner fall this week. Johnson remember, considers himself fully exonerated over Partygate.

    The economy is going to get so much worse before it gets better.

    Twenty seat majority?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,555

    Especially if Charles is at his desk.
    LOL.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,482

    Gravity says hello.
    I always liked it, in that it's kept me grounded.

    (Was actually asking @Richard_Tyndall a serious question though)
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,227

    Lazar also namechecked Element 115 as the 'power source' in 1989 24 years before its discovery.
    He claims we were provided with some in stable state by our visitors.
    Moscovium? the one where the most stable isotope has a half-life of half a second?

    They must have been carrying a really, really big chunk of the stuff.....
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    Moscovium? the one where the most stable isotope has a half-life of half a second?

    They must have been carrying a really, really big chunk of the stuff.....
    Thats the claim yes, element 115. Like i said, he was claiming this 24 years before Moscovium was discovered.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,739
    Leon said:

    Eek, was I spoofed?

    As you are asking me - yep, that tweet comes from a 17 year old with next to no followers.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,746
    For those wondering…


  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Lazar also namechecked Element 115 as the 'power source' in 1989 24 years before its discovery.
    He claims we were provided with some in stable state by our visitors.
    And these are all the elements we know about at Harvard yet
    There may be many others but they haven't been discarvard yet

    What is to stop me predicting the discovery of element I dunno 169 and taking credit when it crops up?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,227

    Thats the claim yes, element 115. Like i said, he was claiming this 24 years before Moscovium was discovered.
    People were making predictions of an "Island of Stability" of heavy elements in that range for years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability

    So making claims about 115 just means someone read Popular Science while on the toilet.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,255
    edited July 2022

    Gravity says hello.
    A 'hypothesis' is an initial suggestion based upon observation. It has to be falsifiable (which is why a religion, as an example, cannot be a hypothesis) and it is tested and refined by further observation and testing which produce a body of data.

    Only after it has been extensively tested and substantiated and has resulted in predictions which themselves have been shown to be accurate and substantiated is it considered to be a 'theory'. The actual verifiable results form a 'law' - something that is repeatable without variation under the same circumstances - whilst the explanation of that law is the 'theory'.

    Edit - apologies Solarflare this should of course have been in answer to Omnium not yourself.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,555
    Sounds like Johnson will lie to the nation at 6pm via a pool clip.

  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,709
    DougSeal said:

    For those wondering…


    Isn’t this the same chap who had to pull down a tweet about poll manipulation, and grovel to avoid legal action a few weeks ago?
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,482
    IshmaelZ said:

    And these are all the elements we know about at Harvard yet
    There may be many others but they haven't been discarvard yet

    What is to stop me predicting the discovery of element I dunno 169 and taking credit when it crops up?
    If only you weren't posting under a pseudonym then DickDastardlyium it would be!
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Whoops:
    British teen released on £8k bail in Spain, facing being charged full cost of Spanish QRA response to his fake ‘bomb threat’ from aboard an Easyjet flight.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10983831/British-teen-arrested-bomb-hoax-saw-EasyJet-flight-Menorca-escorted-fighter-plane.html
    Discussions as to whether he might be transferred back to the UK for trial - no, don’t do that, let him see what terrorism charges look like abroad.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100
    Is there proof that there is intelligent life in the cabinet?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    edited July 2022
    IshmaelZ said:

    And these are all the elements we know about at Harvard yet
    There may be many others but they haven't been discarvard yet

    What is to stop me predicting the discovery of element I dunno 169 and taking credit when it crops up?
    Nothing at all. Hes not claiming credit for discovering it, he stated in 1989 that element 115 was the power source for the saucers he claimed were being worked on in Area 51, or more precisely Groom Lake/S4 to the South of area 51. Its a point of interest, not a point of proof.
    Those that think its all horseshit will be unimpressed, those that believe more to it will be interested by what he had to say.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,555
    Jonathan said:

    Is there proof that there is intelligent life in the cabinet?

    I guess one or two of the ones who vaguely remember they once had a spine are waiting to hear the utter bollx coming at 6pm before walking but I doubt it.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,746
    carnforth said:

    Isn’t this the same chap who had to pull down a tweet about poll manipulation, and grovel to avoid legal action a few weeks ago?
    I think so.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,739

    Nothing at all. Hes not claiming credit for discovering it, he stated in 1989 that element 115 was the power source for the saucers he claimed were being worked on in Area 51, or more precisely Groom Lake/S4 to the South of area 51. Its a point of interest, not a point of proof.
    Those that think its all horseshit will be unimpressed, those that believe more to it will be interested by what he had to say.
    Given a half life of 0.5 of a second I can't see it acting as a power source for anything...
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,136
    Been told by a senior government source that it felt like cabinet resignations were "millimetres away" this morning and that staunch Boris MPs are saying he has to pull a rabbit out of the hat or it's all over.

    PM clearly needs to make a statement before the end of the day

    https://twitter.com/Stefan_Boscia/status/1544340194257772544


    And so he will speak to the Nation at 6.

    Meanwhile...

    NEW: Understand Boris Johnson due to meet his more supportive MPs - those who helped shore him up earlier this year - at 6pm this evening
    https://twitter.com/katyballs/status/1544355523570573313
  • VerulamiusVerulamius Posts: 1,555

    A 'hypothesis' is an initial suggestion based upon observation. It has to be falsifiable (which is why a religion, as an example, cannot be a hypothesis) and it is tested and refined by further observation and testing which produce a body of data.

    Only after it has been extensively tested and substantiated and has resulted in predictions which themselves have been shown to be accurate and substantiated is it considered to be a 'theory'. The actual verifiable results form a 'law' - something that is repeatable without variation under the same circumstances - whilst the explanation of that law is the 'theory'.

    Edit - apologies Solarflare this should of course have been in answer to Omnium not yourself.
    Whilst a theorem has been proved.

    So Einstein's general theory of gravity; Fermat's last theorem.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,225

    Blowjobgate? I have a vague idea of what the others are…
    https://twitter.com/DrOsitaMba/status/1542232177739456513
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,764

    Sounds like Johnson will lie to the nation at 6pm via a pool clip.

    Easier to construct your story that way.
    I almost said 'keep it straight' but that would have been silly.
  • "I consider the matter closed"

    "Strong and stable"

    "Last Labour Government"

    Let's play Tory Bingo!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    People were making predictions of an "Island of Stability" of heavy elements in that range for years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability

    So making claims about 115 just means someone read Popular Science while on the toilet.
    Yeah he might have done. He also might not.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,136
    PM hosting a drinks for loyalist MPs in his Commons office after sit down with @ChrisMasonBBC ... "Whisky no revolver," says one supporter.
    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1544357086871560193
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,538
    DougSeal said:

    For those wondering…


    Not nearly as good as the journo who tweeted "An official in Brussels has seen the YouGov MRP and said 'I don't like it, but I'll have to go along with it.'"
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,121

    Gravity says hello.
    Just another theory that’s going to come crashing down to the ground?
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100
    Scott_xP said:

    Been told by a senior government source that it felt like cabinet resignations were "millimetres away" this morning and that staunch Boris MPs are saying he has to pull a rabbit out of the hat or it's all over.

    PM clearly needs to make a statement before the end of the day

    https://twitter.com/Stefan_Boscia/status/1544340194257772544


    And so he will speak to the Nation at 6.

    Meanwhile...

    NEW: Understand Boris Johnson due to meet his more supportive MPs - those who helped shore him up earlier this year - at 6pm this evening
    https://twitter.com/katyballs/status/1544355523570573313

    What good are millimetres when the cabinets integrity and courage are best measured in angstroms.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,136
    Tory MP texts that the 'Back Boris' team has been summoned to his office for 6pm

    "Presumably to reinflate his own flagging morale," the source says

    https://twitter.com/elenicourea/status/1544356720000045060
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,136
    NEW: Reliable source tells me two ministers are on resignation watch tonight...

    Will Quince and Mike Freer.

    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1544356242948341762
  • Scott_xP said:

    PM hosting a drinks for loyalist MPs in his Commons office after sit down with @ChrisMasonBBC ... "Whisky no revolver," says one supporter.
    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1544357086871560193

    Cheap round, I suspect.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,555
    Scott_xP said:

    Tory MP texts that the 'Back Boris' team has been summoned to his office for 6pm

    "Presumably to reinflate his own flagging morale," the source says

    https://twitter.com/elenicourea/status/1544356720000045060

    So Nad and JRM and Bone.

    I doubt anyone else will be there.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    Boris seems to have double-booked himself.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100
    Scott_xP said:

    NEW: Reliable source tells me two ministers are on resignation watch tonight...

    Will Quince and Mike Freer.

    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1544356242948341762

    Sir Richard Fiddler MP and Roger Rogerson QC MP
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,559
    Scott_xP said:

    PM hosting a drinks for loyalist MPs in his Commons office

    He never learns, does he?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,764
    Scott_xP said:

    PM hosting a drinks for loyalist MPs in his Commons office after sit down with @ChrisMasonBBC ... "Whisky no revolver," says one supporter.
    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1544357086871560193

    TBF it must help to be pissed when you're supporting Johnson.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,555
    Scott_xP said:

    PM hosting a drinks for loyalist MPs in his Commons office after sit down with @ChrisMasonBBC ... "Whisky no revolver," says one supporter.
    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1544357086871560193

    Only the Cabinet can end this nightmare in the immediate future.

    Otherwise it is 1922 next week by sounds of things.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,930
    Scott_xP said:

    NEW: Reliable source tells me two ministers are on resignation watch tonight...

    Will Quince and Mike Freer.

    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1544356242948341762

    Quince and Freer, the new detective drama pairing coming to you this Sunday on BBC1. One's a maverick, the other plays it by the book.

    Or something.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    edited July 2022
    Scott_xP said:

    Tory MP texts that the 'Back Boris' team has been summoned to his office for 6pm

    "Presumably to reinflate his own flagging morale," the source says

    https://twitter.com/elenicourea/status/1544356720000045060

    Fabricant and Bone are going to read him the Very Hungry Caterpillar and tuck him in. Bless.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,559

    Boris seems to have double-booked himself.

    Once for drinking and once for lying?
  • Jesus more injunction talk for Keir
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,136
    Wow!! Ex-minister Nick Gibb suggests that, as in the US, “you worry whether democracy is safe”.....as he calls the Cabinet to bring down the PM

    “We have to make sure that doesn’t happen in this country. We have to get rid of the rot in our political system” - tells R4

    https://twitter.com/Rob_Merrick/status/1544355683142877186
  • Scott_xP said:

    Tory MP texts that the 'Back Boris' team has been summoned to his office for 6pm

    "Presumably to reinflate his own flagging morale," the source says

    https://twitter.com/elenicourea/status/1544356720000045060

    He requires reinflation, then? Will be interesting to see who turns up to give him a blow-up job.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,482

    A 'hypothesis' is an initial suggestion based upon observation. It has to be falsifiable (which is why a religion, as an example, cannot be a hypothesis) and it is tested and refined by further observation and testing which produce a body of data.

    Only after it has been extensively tested and substantiated and has resulted in predictions which themselves have been shown to be accurate and substantiated is it considered to be a 'theory'. The actual verifiable results form a 'law' - something that is repeatable without variation under the same circumstances - whilst the explanation of that law is the 'theory'.

    Edit - apologies Solarflare this should of course have been in answer to Omnium not yourself.
    Nice that you've pulled yourself together on this! (I quite like your explanation.)
  • Boris looking for another blow job?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,295
    Is Pincher going to resign as an MP to take the pressure off Johnson?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,854
    NEW: Several Texas counties will hold a press conference in Brackettville, TX later today where they plan to declare an “invasion” at the border. I’m told they plan to reference Article IV Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees states federal protection from invasion.

    https://twitter.com/billfoxla/status/1544346998488215554
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    Fabricant and Bone are going to read him the Very Hungry Caterpillar and tuck him in. Bless.
    Peppa Pig [American Homage] Trouble at School
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vkhnPvrugY
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,559
    edited July 2022
    Scott_xP said:

    Wow!! Ex-minister Nick Gibb suggests that, as in the US, “you worry whether democracy is safe”.....as he calls the Cabinet to bring down the PM

    “We have to make sure that doesn’t happen in this country. We have to get rid of the rot in our political system” - tells R4

    https://twitter.com/Rob_Merrick/status/1544355683142877186

    Ugh. Another of the DfE team of apocalyptic failure lines up against Johnson. That's Cummings, Freedman and now Gibb.

    We only need Gove and Spielman to come out against Johnson tonight and we'll have the set of ministers and SPADs.

    Then we need Christopher Wormald to join the civil service grievance.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,559

    He requires reinflation, then? Will be interesting to see who turns up to give him a blow-up job.
    Hmm. That's a hard one.

    But the meeting's more likely to be a flop...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,087
    Scott_xP said:

    Wow!! Ex-minister Nick Gibb suggests that, as in the US, “you worry whether democracy is safe”.....as he calls the Cabinet to bring down the PM

    “We have to make sure that doesn’t happen in this country. We have to get rid of the rot in our political system” - tells R4

    https://twitter.com/Rob_Merrick/status/1544355683142877186

    When was the general election Johnson lost, I must have missed it? He was elected in 2019 for a 5 year term.

    There is no comparison whatsoever to Trump's actions after he lost the 2020 US election. Johnson haters are just going loony now
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