Interesting thing about this line “the greased piglet will get away again”. He never got away in the first place. He’s still not got out from under Partygate. And now he never will. https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1544334565145206787
Robert Hyneks conversion to believer after being part of Blue Book and the early interventions of the likes of Major Donald Keyhoe plus the likes of Astronauts Gordon Cooper and Edgar Mitchell show this is neither a recent thing nor a China thing.
Atmosphere today in Westminster somehow feels worse than before the confidence vote. Mood much darker. One MP says they had been content to wait for rule change till the autumn but now want it done before recess. Very very different tone. https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1544334854472585219
The left field option: Starmer and Raynor are both fined and both resign. Lab leadership contest begins. 'Big Dog' calls snap General Election.
The risk: a spectacular gamble which blows up in the Tories' face as the opposition parties move to ensure only one anti-Tory candidate in each seat. Tories are reduced to a rump/oblivion.
The rewards: secures another 5 years before the economy hits total turdage, preserves own premiership ('Big Dog' is a winner once more), Labour et al not ready for campaign, spikes the Sturge's indyref2 plan B.
It's likely such a move would transgress several conventions, but such trifles do not bother 'Big Dog'. Place bets now...
May called a snap election when she was ahead in the polls and that went badly. Calling a snap election when you are behind in the polls is madness.
Indeed so; however, blessed are we to be living through interesting times.
Highly improbable nonetheless, but not entirely impossible.
Sidenote: once a GE is called, it would be rather difficult/awkward in the extreme for the Tories to remove the incumbent PM.
A final thought: one should never underestimate the self-preservation instincts of a cornered rat - especially not the current occupant of No.10.
I wouldn’t underestimate the preservation instincts of a cornered rat, but it’s not a strategy that delivers self preservation. If Johnson triggered an election, then he’s out of No. 10 in 5 weeks time. Staying put and ignoring cries for his resignation is always going to be a better strategy.
If he’s facing a new vote of confidence, the possibility of winning that vote is always going to be better than the possibility of winning a general election from the dire position he’s in.
Johnson’s go-to strategy is to hang on and hope something turns up. That’s what he’ll try.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
A Cabinet Office contact writes “there’s a ‘Final Days of Rome’ atmosphere today”. A No. 10 contact says: “There does seem to be an air of oh-for-f***’s-sake about. Definitely not as buoyant as before.” ~AA https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1544332535957692417
Some in Westminster will take that as a final days of the Treaty of Rome - and be quite satisfied it's a job done well....
Same here in Corfu. Well probably. Local thermometer not that reliable.
If several of the recent model runs are to be believed (including today's latest GFS run) we'll be hitting 39 or 40C in the UK sometime in the next 2 weeks, and mid 40s in France.
GFS to be believed 10 days out? Probably not. But the potential is obviously there.
40C is definitely in the range of possibilities if everything lines up.
Lol. Mind you, the only time I've come near to having heat stroke was in Scotland...
It actually has 41C for the following day in the south, but that's even less believable.
Over 35C is a serious health problem though.
What does seem to be nailed on is an exceptionally hot airmass emerging out of North Africa and heading out into Europe via Iberia. Whether it gets to us or curves over towards the Alps remains to be seen. But the ECMWF, GFS and Met models all show similar evolutions, and most get us into the mid 30s at some stage.
Yay - should bring some interesting migrant moths....
David Davis is making himself available to constituency associations round the country for speeches and events...
If he was the fearless upholder of liberty he used to claim to be, he could call a vanity by election in Haltemprice and Howden. It's not so big and clever pulling an expensive stunt like that in a climate where he might lose I don't suppose.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
If I were to take a guess, they’re trying not to say “we think something, somehow penetrated our airspace and we’re worried it’s the Chinese and it’s very embarrassing for the largest military in the world to be comprehensively debagged”.
Like when that Chinese submarine surfaced in the middle of an American fleet?
Wasn’t that a Swedish sub on a NATO exercise? Or have there been multiple occurrences that I missed?
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Possibility 3: a non-US power or agency has realised the ability to "fake" aliens, by projecting holograms or somesuch, tho this raises the question how and why they've been able to do it for decades (apparently)
Possiblity 4: we are seeing a genuine mass groupthink meltdown in elite America, which seems unlikely but then every explanation is unlikely
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
My scientific training causes me to be open minded, but evidence based. I am also sceptical about people who want to believe in something where all the evidence suggests that something does not exist. I am not saying UFOs cannot exist, it is just that it is massively unlikely. The balance of probability is that it is all nonsense. I will take a look at it later, but must do some work. I will also think of a similarly amusing insult for you at a later date!
I am explicitly saying it is probably not "aliens"
If it is aliens where are the 1000s of photos and videos? We all have smartphones. It doesn't add up. I don't believe Will Smith is going round erasing the memories and phones of millions of witnesses
But that leaves us with the mystery of American behaviour. All these top people, from Obama down, saying this weird shit. And some of them saying it with anguished body language, which suggests something going on under the surface
Where are the photos? Is not a slam dunk argument.
Take a bird like the snipe. Little brown fuckers, not rare, really difficult to shoot because they stay low and jink, hence why snipers are called snipers. If their existence were called in question it would be as difficult to prove it by photos as it is to shoot them
Exhibit b is big cats in Devon and Cornwall. Nobody serious disputes they are out there but no decent focused photos. It's harder than it looks
Interesting
Yet those US pilots report being buzzed by these UFOS every day for two years. And the UFOs are not tiny birds, these are considerable "aircraft" that attain great speed and show advanced maneuverability. So they must be easily visible to the naked eye
So where are the videos and photos of these? I'd whip my bloody iPhone out, sharpish
The whole thing is deeply confounding. I've thought about it hard and I can't find one easy single explanation
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Odd physics being discovered these days. I'll throw a possible explanation out there - and that's that whats being seen are effects somehow proapagating back in time. Completely wild nonsense, but it would explain why these effects are seen in US military operational areas, and that's that they're still operational areas in the future.
I'm not even remotely suggesting this is the case, but it's no more weird than the two explanations above.
Yes, imagine how that message would go out across the galaxy FTL. The final answer to what happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object.
This is amazing. A minister in the Lords reading out a statement defending the government's commitment to standards in public life as if it's a big joke. To be fair, his comic timing is excellent. Cabinet minister Nathalie Evans can hardly contain herself https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1544327853701058560
This is amazing. A minister in the Lords reading out a statement defending the government's commitment to standards in public life as if it's a big joke. To be fair, his comic timing is excellent. Cabinet minister Nathalie Evans can hardly contain herself https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1544327853701058560
Atmosphere today in Westminster somehow feels worse than before the confidence vote. Mood much darker. One MP says they had been content to wait for rule change till the autumn but now want it done before recess. Very very different tone. https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1544334854472585219
This is amazing. A minister in the Lords reading out a statement defending the government's commitment to standards in public life as if it's a big joke. To be fair, his comic timing is excellent. Cabinet minister Nathalie Evans can hardly contain herself https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1544327853701058560
Having Lord True reading it out is the ultimate trolling.
Same here in Corfu. Well probably. Local thermometer not that reliable.
If several of the recent model runs are to be believed (including today's latest GFS run) we'll be hitting 39 or 40C in the UK sometime in the next 2 weeks, and mid 40s in France.
GFS to be believed 10 days out? Probably not. But the potential is obviously there.
40C is definitely in the range of possibilities if everything lines up.
Lol. Mind you, the only time I've come near to having heat stroke was in Scotland...
It actually has 41C for the following day in the south, but that's even less believable.
Over 35C is a serious health problem though.
What does seem to be nailed on is an exceptionally hot airmass emerging out of North Africa and heading out into Europe via Iberia. Whether it gets to us or curves over towards the Alps remains to be seen. But the ECMWF, GFS and Met models all show similar evolutions, and most get us into the mid 30s at some stage.
Yay - should bring some interesting migrant moths....
Now, now, none of this alien business. You'll trigger Leon.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
If I were to take a guess, they’re trying not to say “we think something, somehow penetrated our airspace and we’re worried it’s the Chinese and it’s very embarrassing for the largest military in the world to be comprehensively debagged”.
Like when that Chinese submarine surfaced in the middle of an American fleet?
Wasn’t that a Swedish sub on a NATO exercise? Or have there been multiple occurrences that I missed?
This is amazing. A minister in the Lords reading out a statement defending the government's commitment to standards in public life as if it's a big joke. To be fair, his comic timing is excellent. Cabinet minister Nathalie Evans can hardly contain herself https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1544327853701058560
Having Lord True reading it out is the ultimate trolling.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
My scientific training causes me to be open minded, but evidence based. I am also sceptical about people who want to believe in something where all the evidence suggests that something does not exist. I am not saying UFOs cannot exist, it is just that it is massively unlikely. The balance of probability is that it is all nonsense. I will take a look at it later, but must do some work. I will also think of a similarly amusing insult for you at a later date!
I am explicitly saying it is probably not "aliens"
If it is aliens where are the 1000s of photos and videos? We all have smartphones. It doesn't add up. I don't believe Will Smith is going round erasing the memories and phones of millions of witnesses
But that leaves us with the mystery of American behaviour. All these top people, from Obama down, saying this weird shit. And some of them saying it with anguished body language, which suggests something going on under the surface
Where are the photos? Is not a slam dunk argument.
Take a bird like the snipe. Little brown fuckers, not rare, really difficult to shoot because they stay low and jink, hence why snipers are called snipers. If their existence were called in question it would be as difficult to prove it by photos as it is to shoot them
Exhibit b is big cats in Devon and Cornwall. Nobody serious disputes they are out there but no decent focused photos. It's harder than it looks
Interesting
Yet those US pilots report being buzzed by these UFOS every day for two years. And the UFOs are not tiny birds, these are considerable "aircraft" that attain great speed and show advanced maneuverability. So they must be easily visible to the naked eye
So where are the videos and photos of these? I'd whip my bloody iPhone out, sharpish
The whole thing is deeply confounding. I've thought about it hard and I can't find one easy single explanation
Yes, imagine how that message would go out across the galaxy FTL. The final answer to what happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object.
I really don't think they flew 90 billion light years to come down here and start a fight...I mean announce the end of Boris.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Possibility 3: a non-US power or agency has realised the ability to "fake" aliens, by projecting holograms or somesuch, tho this raises the question how and why they've been able to do it for decades (apparently)
Possiblity 4: we are seeing a genuine mass groupthink meltdown in elite America, which seems unlikely but then every explanation is unlikely
Possibility 5: a few world agencies know about the certainty of intelligent alien life. May have been working with it for decades, or maybe just watching them watching us.
But the view has been taken that human life would just stop on so many levels if the US President goes on telly admitting they are real - "we are not alone" Can you IMAGINE the network news? Nothing else would get a word for weeks, months. Religions might melt down. People would demand to know "Are they hostile?" and take to the hills, regardless of the answers.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
My scientific training causes me to be open minded, but evidence based. I am also sceptical about people who want to believe in something where all the evidence suggests that something does not exist. I am not saying UFOs cannot exist, it is just that it is massively unlikely. The balance of probability is that it is all nonsense. I will take a look at it later, but must do some work. I will also think of a similarly amusing insult for you at a later date!
I am explicitly saying it is probably not "aliens"
If it is aliens where are the 1000s of photos and videos? We all have smartphones. It doesn't add up. I don't believe Will Smith is going round erasing the memories and phones of millions of witnesses
But that leaves us with the mystery of American behaviour. All these top people, from Obama down, saying this weird shit. And some of them saying it with anguished body language, which suggests something going on under the surface
Where are the photos? Is not a slam dunk argument.
Take a bird like the snipe. Little brown fuckers, not rare, really difficult to shoot because they stay low and jink, hence why snipers are called snipers. If their existence were called in question it would be as difficult to prove it by photos as it is to shoot them
Exhibit b is big cats in Devon and Cornwall. Nobody serious disputes they are out there but no decent focused photos. It's harder than it looks
Interesting
Yet those US pilots report being buzzed by these UFOS every day for two years. And the UFOs are not tiny birds, these are considerable "aircraft" that attain great speed and show advanced maneuverability. So they must be easily visible to the naked eye
So where are the videos and photos of these? I'd whip my bloody iPhone out, sharpish
The whole thing is deeply confounding. I've thought about it hard and I can't find one easy single explanation
I can - lies
Who is lying, and why?
Now THAT is the right question.
Seriously - if US pilots are seeing these things all the time, presumably there is headcam footage? Or cockpit footage? Nope? Then I have to ask why. See also millions of airline passengers over the last 20 years with cameras on their phones - did none of them see these UFO's?
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Possibility 3: a non-US power or agency has realised the ability to "fake" aliens, by projecting holograms or somesuch, tho this raises the question how and why they've been able to do it for decades (apparently)
Possiblity 4: we are seeing a genuine mass groupthink meltdown in elite America, which seems unlikely but then every explanation is unlikely
The theory that this is aliens and has all been covered up stems from the 1952 DC flyover. The Aliens basically demonstrated they could go where they wanted, when they wanted and the US establishment collectively wet its pants. Prior to this research was open, undecided and there was genuine scientific curiosity. Immediately after everything was set to 'debunk' mode and aimed at hushing it all up/mocking it to provoke disbelief. All ultimately to avoid the panic from 'we are not in control of our skies'
As I said earlier, the government’s flagrant disregard for truth, ethics or even law (NIP etc) invites civil disobedience.
Hopefully we are seeing the final shitterdämmerung.
The problem for the tories is that the impacts of some of the Johnson government's decisions are only starting to hit home.
Things will be getting much worse in the coming months. All the while, they will be gazing at their navels, trying to find the best person to clean up the mess.
Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 17m OK guys. I assumed this was such a stupidly moronic insane suggestion, that you would obviously realise I was joking. https://twitter.com/chriscurtis94/status/1544334006883389442 This Tweet was deleted by the Tweet author. Learn more Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 16m My god you have all actually completely lost it. Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 You see the joke was that they keep briefing stupid stories about the fact there is going to be an election even though it would be insane to have an election. And after today it would obviously be more insane. 4:05 PM · Jul 5, 2022 from City of London, London·Twitter for Android 20 Likes
Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 10m Replying to @chriscurtis94 No really, he isn't going to call an election, and people that day otherwise are talking crap. Even if he tried to call an election, the cabinet won't let him have an election. The idea is completely bananas. I thought this was assumed. Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 5m If he calls an election in the next week I will run down Whitehall in my underwear as the exit poll is being released. It isn't going to happen.
“Sixty per cent of Brits earning £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” Highly paid people tend to see themselves as “normal” on the income scale – and “worse off” than their social circle.”
Even before the latest scandal, the PM's ratings were absolutely dire. Disapproval is headed back to the peak of partygate revelations at the turn of the year and three quarters of the public think Boris Johnson is untrustworthy. https://twitter.com/drjennings/status/1544319131679424512/photo/1
The one quarter who think Boris “trustworthy” are the UK equivalent of those Americans who confirm to pollsters that they have been decapitated.
You can trust Boris…
You can trust that he will always be a self-interested toerag.
Not very fair to compare a tribe of nomadic people from the Sahara with Boris Johnson
Even before the latest scandal, the PM's ratings were absolutely dire. Disapproval is headed back to the peak of partygate revelations at the turn of the year and three quarters of the public think Boris Johnson is untrustworthy. https://twitter.com/drjennings/status/1544319131679424512/photo/1
The one quarter who think Boris “trustworthy” are the UK equivalent of those Americans who confirm to pollsters that they have been decapitated.
You can trust Boris…
You can trust that he will always be a self-interested toerag.
Not very fair to compare a tribe of nomadic people from the Sahara with Boris Johnson
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
My scientific training causes me to be open minded, but evidence based. I am also sceptical about people who want to believe in something where all the evidence suggests that something does not exist. I am not saying UFOs cannot exist, it is just that it is massively unlikely. The balance of probability is that it is all nonsense. I will take a look at it later, but must do some work. I will also think of a similarly amusing insult for you at a later date!
I am explicitly saying it is probably not "aliens"
If it is aliens where are the 1000s of photos and videos? We all have smartphones. It doesn't add up. I don't believe Will Smith is going round erasing the memories and phones of millions of witnesses
But that leaves us with the mystery of American behaviour. All these top people, from Obama down, saying this weird shit. And some of them saying it with anguished body language, which suggests something going on under the surface
Where are the photos? Is not a slam dunk argument.
Take a bird like the snipe. Little brown fuckers, not rare, really difficult to shoot because they stay low and jink, hence why snipers are called snipers. If their existence were called in question it would be as difficult to prove it by photos as it is to shoot them
Exhibit b is big cats in Devon and Cornwall. Nobody serious disputes they are out there but no decent focused photos. It's harder than it looks
Interesting
Yet those US pilots report being buzzed by these UFOS every day for two years. And the UFOs are not tiny birds, these are considerable "aircraft" that attain great speed and show advanced maneuverability. So they must be easily visible to the naked eye
So where are the videos and photos of these? I'd whip my bloody iPhone out, sharpish
The whole thing is deeply confounding. I've thought about it hard and I can't find one easy single explanation
I can - lies
Who is lying, and why?
Now THAT is the right question.
Seriously - if US pilots are seeing these things all the time, presumably there is headcam footage? Or cockpit footage? Nope? Then I have to ask why. See also millions of airline passengers over the last 20 years with cameras on their phones - did none of them see these UFO's?
He has very very few options left, and the last time he “gambled big”, he won.
It’s not impossible, with the consent of his party, he could do so again.
I know its completely different, and I know its Godwin's law, but something about Johnson and his travails, and his gambling, remind me of the greatest gambler in history, shacked up in his bunker in 1945.
Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 17m OK guys. I assumed this was such a stupidly moronic insane suggestion, that you would obviously realise I was joking. https://twitter.com/chriscurtis94/status/1544334006883389442 This Tweet was deleted by the Tweet author. Learn more Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 16m My god you have all actually completely lost it. Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 You see the joke was that they keep briefing stupid stories about the fact there is going to be an election even though it would be insane to have an election. And after today it would obviously be more insane. 4:05 PM · Jul 5, 2022 from City of London, London·Twitter for Android 20 Likes
Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 10m Replying to @chriscurtis94 No really, he isn't going to call an election, and people that day otherwise are talking crap. Even if he tried to call an election, the cabinet won't let him have an election. The idea is completely bananas. I thought this was assumed. Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 5m If he calls an election in the next week I will run down Whitehall in my underwear as the exit poll is being released. It isn't going to happen.
Dunno who Curtis is but never seen a clearer illustration that explaining equals losing
If I was betting on a resignation, I’d tip Patel or Coffey.
The others are generally so “in blood steeped” by the Boris project that there is not much point.
Gove probably thinks he has done it once already and it’s someone else’s turn; Wallace will tell himself the Ukraine effort is more important; Raab, Dorries and scores of others are gone the moment Boris goes.
I have my eye on Patel as the one to do the deed. She's been very quiet. She was not at all supportive over Cummings or Jenrick. She has a certain amount of low cunning.
Even before the latest scandal, the PM's ratings were absolutely dire. Disapproval is headed back to the peak of partygate revelations at the turn of the year and three quarters of the public think Boris Johnson is untrustworthy. https://twitter.com/drjennings/status/1544319131679424512/photo/1
The one quarter who think Boris “trustworthy” are the UK equivalent of those Americans who confirm to pollsters that they have been decapitated.
You can trust Boris…
You can trust that he will always be a self-interested toerag.
Not very fair to compare a tribe of nomadic people from the Sahara with Boris Johnson
“Sixty per cent of Brits earning £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” Highly paid people tend to see themselves as “normal” on the income scale – and “worse off” than their social circle.”
It’s possible they are “worse off” due to housing costs.
If, like my friends, you are given a £3m house to live in - which is more common sadly than you’d think, in the London middle classes - then your non-asset rich peers basically need to work their whole careers with a considerably higher salary to match.
“Sixty per cent of Brits earning £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” Highly paid people tend to see themselves as “normal” on the income scale – and “worse off” than their social circle.”
Rich Bastards Who Need To be Taxed More are easily defined.
They are people who earn more than twice your own earnings.
Boris Johnson's position is now simple untenable! Only question now is, will Cabinet Ministers even wait to see the 'public' mood of Conservatives backbenchers at PMQs tomorrow as Boris tries to bluff his away through it, or will they accept the game is up and tell him today to resign for the greater good of the party?!
Boris Johnson't position is now simple untenable! Only question now is, will Cabinet Ministers even wait to see the 'public' mood of Conservatives backbenchers at PMQs tomorrow as Boris tries to bluff his away through it, or will they accept the game is up and tell him today to resign for the greater good of the party?!
Yebbut that would entail asking Boris Johnson to do something that was not in his personal interest.
He has very very few options left, and the last time he “gambled big”, he won.
It’s not impossible, with the consent of his party, he could do so again.
I know its completely different, and I know its Godwin's law, but something about Johnson and his travails, and his gambling, remind me of the greatest gambler in history, shacked up in his bunker in 1945.
Putting aside the Godwinism etc, I’m not sure it is such a fruitful comparison.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Possibility 3: a non-US power or agency has realised the ability to "fake" aliens, by projecting holograms or somesuch, tho this raises the question how and why they've been able to do it for decades (apparently)
Possiblity 4: we are seeing a genuine mass groupthink meltdown in elite America, which seems unlikely but then every explanation is unlikely
The theory that this is aliens and has all been covered up stems from the 1952 DC flyover. The Aliens basically demonstrated they could go where they wanted, when they wanted and the US establishment collectively wet its pants. Prior to this research was open, undecided and there was genuine scientific curiosity. Immediately after everything was set to 'debunk' mode and aimed at hushing it all up/mocking it to provoke disbelief. All ultimately to avoid the panic from 'we are not in control of our skies'
Never heard of Hyneck before. Fascinating guy. Compelling life story
Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 17m OK guys. I assumed this was such a stupidly moronic insane suggestion, that you would obviously realise I was joking. https://twitter.com/chriscurtis94/status/1544334006883389442 This Tweet was deleted by the Tweet author. Learn more Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 16m My god you have all actually completely lost it. Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 You see the joke was that they keep briefing stupid stories about the fact there is going to be an election even though it would be insane to have an election. And after today it would obviously be more insane. 4:05 PM · Jul 5, 2022 from City of London, London·Twitter for Android 20 Likes
Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 10m Replying to @chriscurtis94 No really, he isn't going to call an election, and people that day otherwise are talking crap. Even if he tried to call an election, the cabinet won't let him have an election. The idea is completely bananas. I thought this was assumed. Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 5m If he calls an election in the next week I will run down Whitehall in my underwear as the exit poll is being released. It isn't going to happen.
Dunno who Curtis is but never seen a clearer illustration that explaining equals losing
But the interesting bit is that the idea of Bozo calling an election should be seen as a complete joke based on polling yet sane people believe it's possible because
1) Bozo is a clown 2) Seemingly people were saying such things a couple of weeks back to take advantage were SKS to get a FPN..
“Sixty per cent of Brits earning £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” Highly paid people tend to see themselves as “normal” on the income scale – and “worse off” than their social circle.”
The staple of the Telegraph article, of the £90k middle manager in the Home Counties, struggling with his massive mortgage and two sets of school fees, wondering if they can afford to do both Christmas in Dubai and half term in Corcheval this year, thinking that the inability do to both makes them poor.
Britons tend to approve of Keir Starmer's confirmation that the Labour Party will not seek for Britain to re-join the EU
All Brits Approve 48% / Disapprove 33%
Lab voters Approve 30% / Disapprove 55%
Con voters Approve 79% / Disapprove 11%
The mark of a good policy.
Popularity =/= good policy
Politically it's a great policy - it wins back labour voters who in 2019 voted Bozo while having a minimal impact on Remainers who will have a choice between voting Lib Dem or continuing to vote Labour and most will have little choice but to do the latter come an election.
Whether it's a great policy financially and otherwise it's not but to return to the EU will take a lot of time and probably longer than the next Parliament regardless of our desires...
Even before the latest scandal, the PM's ratings were absolutely dire. Disapproval is headed back to the peak of partygate revelations at the turn of the year and three quarters of the public think Boris Johnson is untrustworthy. https://twitter.com/drjennings/status/1544319131679424512/photo/1
The one quarter who think Boris “trustworthy” are the UK equivalent of those Americans who confirm to pollsters that they have been decapitated.
You can trust Boris…
You can trust that he will always be a self-interested toerag.
Not very fair to compare a tribe of nomadic people from the Sahara with Boris Johnson
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Odd physics being discovered these days. I'll throw a possible explanation out there - and that's that whats being seen are effects somehow proapagating back in time. Completely wild nonsense, but it would explain why these effects are seen in US military operational areas, and that's that they're still operational areas in the future.
I'm not even remotely suggesting this is the case, but it's no more weird than the two explanations above.
The earth is rotating on its axis and orbiting the sun in a system that itself is moving relative to the rest of the universe, so I would be surprised if jumps back in time were jumps back to the same place.
The left field option: Starmer and Raynor are both fined and both resign. Lab leadership contest begins. 'Big Dog' calls snap General Election.
The risk: a spectacular gamble which blows up in the Tories' face as the opposition parties move to ensure only one anti-Tory candidate in each seat. Tories are reduced to a rump/oblivion.
The rewards: secures another 5 years before the economy hits total turdage, preserves own premiership ('Big Dog' is a winner once more), Labour et al not ready for campaign, spikes the Sturge's indyref2 plan B.
It's likely such a move would transgress several conventions, but such trifles do not bother 'Big Dog'. Place bets now...
May called a snap election when she was ahead in the polls and that went badly. Calling a snap election when you are behind in the polls is madness.
Indeed so; however, blessed are we to be living through interesting times.
Highly improbable nonetheless, but not entirely impossible.
Sidenote: once a GE is called, it would be rather difficult/awkward in the extreme for the Tories to remove the incumbent PM.
A final thought: one should never underestimate the self-preservation instincts of a cornered rat - especially not the current occupant of No.10.
I wouldn’t underestimate the preservation instincts of a cornered rat, but it’s not a strategy that delivers self preservation. If Johnson triggered an election, then he’s out of No. 10 in 5 weeks time. Staying put and ignoring cries for his resignation is always going to be a better strategy.
If he’s facing a new vote of confidence, the possibility of winning that vote is always going to be better than the possibility of winning a general election from the dire position he’s in.
Johnson’s go-to strategy is to hang on and hope something turns up. That’s what he’ll try.
A snap GE would be shit or bust for sure. As for the dire position, in the circumstances, Labour are underperforming in the opinion polls. Who knows what effect a double FPN on Starmer and Raynor would have on the ratings? Also, Scotland... If there's a scintilla of weakness, it may - just about - be worth rolling the dice. Plus, Crosby's back. He'll bore down through the gutter to take the fight to the opposition.
The other point is, if not now/soon, then when? The economic situation is deteriorating daily and by 2024 will be too far gone for any incumbent Govt to have a chance of winning. Think: inflation at 20+%, deep recession, spiking interest rates, home repossessions, negative equity, rising unemployment. It's going to be Biblical. It cannot be anything else after the longest period of artifically supressed interest rates in recorded history and, latterly, spraying QE all over the real economy. No Govt will survive that in any event.
“Sixty per cent of Brits earning £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” Highly paid people tend to see themselves as “normal” on the income scale – and “worse off” than their social circle.”
The staple of the Telegraph article, of the £90k middle manager in the Home Counties, struggling with his massive mortgage and two sets of school fees, wondering if they can afford to do both Christmas in Dubai and half term in Corcheval this year.
Absolutely, apart from Christmas in Dubai, since Dubai is essentially non-U.
Middle class inflation has been very bad over the last generation, the lifestyle previously enjoyed by quite middling types* is pretty much out of reach now for most.
*Kids in private school. House with grounds in Home Counties. Newish car, and another “runaround”. Second home somewhere in England or France.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Possibility 3: a non-US power or agency has realised the ability to "fake" aliens, by projecting holograms or somesuch, tho this raises the question how and why they've been able to do it for decades (apparently)
Possiblity 4: we are seeing a genuine mass groupthink meltdown in elite America, which seems unlikely but then every explanation is unlikely
The theory that this is aliens and has all been covered up stems from the 1952 DC flyover. The Aliens basically demonstrated they could go where they wanted, when they wanted and the US establishment collectively wet its pants. Prior to this research was open, undecided and there was genuine scientific curiosity. Immediately after everything was set to 'debunk' mode and aimed at hushing it all up/mocking it to provoke disbelief. All ultimately to avoid the panic from 'we are not in control of our skies'
Never heard of Hyneck before. Fascinating guy. Compelling life story
For someone with your interest in UFO's to have not encountered Hyneck is amazing. Project Bluebook, Grudge, MJ-12 - its all been out there before. My skepticism is largely based on a long time interest in all things Fortean, and a longstanding disappointment that in an era where everyone has cameras ALL THE TIME, we are no closer to getting conclusive proof of all these odd things that people say happen to them.
Take ABC (anomalous big cats) - as @IshmaelZ says most people in Devon and Cornwall accept them as reality, yet decent photo/film evidence is lacking. Author Merily Harpur goes so far as to propose that they are not actually flesh and blood creatures. By now, with the number of sightings, sometimes really close up, we should have better photos.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
My scientific training causes me to be open minded, but evidence based. I am also sceptical about people who want to believe in something where all the evidence suggests that something does not exist. I am not saying UFOs cannot exist, it is just that it is massively unlikely. The balance of probability is that it is all nonsense. I will take a look at it later, but must do some work. I will also think of a similarly amusing insult for you at a later date!
I am explicitly saying it is probably not "aliens"
If it is aliens where are the 1000s of photos and videos? We all have smartphones. It doesn't add up. I don't believe Will Smith is going round erasing the memories and phones of millions of witnesses
But that leaves us with the mystery of American behaviour. All these top people, from Obama down, saying this weird shit. And some of them saying it with anguished body language, which suggests something going on under the surface
Where are the photos? Is not a slam dunk argument.
Take a bird like the snipe. Little brown fuckers, not rare, really difficult to shoot because they stay low and jink, hence why snipers are called snipers. If their existence were called in question it would be as difficult to prove it by photos as it is to shoot them
Exhibit b is big cats in Devon and Cornwall. Nobody serious disputes they are out there but no decent focused photos. It's harder than it looks
Interesting
Yet those US pilots report being buzzed by these UFOS every day for two years. And the UFOs are not tiny birds, these are considerable "aircraft" that attain great speed and show advanced maneuverability. So they must be easily visible to the naked eye
So where are the videos and photos of these? I'd whip my bloody iPhone out, sharpish
The whole thing is deeply confounding. I've thought about it hard and I can't find one easy single explanation
I can - lies
Who is lying, and why?
Now THAT is the right question.
Seriously - if US pilots are seeing these things all the time, presumably there is headcam footage? Or cockpit footage? Nope? Then I have to ask why. See also millions of airline passengers over the last 20 years with cameras on their phones - did none of them see these UFO's?
So... you have no answer or theory. OK
In science theories (or perhaps more accurately hypotheses) are built up from observational evidence and data collection. Until such times as you or other 'Alien' advocates can provide such observational evidence there is nothing upon which to construct a theory.
If you want to see someone doing a good job of debunking many of these UFO stories then try reading the Skeptoid Blog. The latest one on the Chilean Navy UFO case is a good example.
“Sixty per cent of Brits earning £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” Highly paid people tend to see themselves as “normal” on the income scale – and “worse off” than their social circle.”
The staple of the Telegraph article, of the £90k middle manager in the Home Counties, struggling with his massive mortgage and two sets of school fees, wondering if they can afford to do both Christmas in Dubai and half term in Corcheval this year, thinking that the inability do to both makes them poor.
“Sixty per cent of Brits earning £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” Highly paid people tend to see themselves as “normal” on the income scale – and “worse off” than their social circle.”
Just bizarre. Perhaps reflects the narrow social circle of some of these people. If you went to private school then a Russell Group Uni straight into a professional job you might genuinely think that a high five figure salary is kind of normal, I guess. I know exactly where I sit in the income distribution.
Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 17m OK guys. I assumed this was such a stupidly moronic insane suggestion, that you would obviously realise I was joking. https://twitter.com/chriscurtis94/status/1544334006883389442 This Tweet was deleted by the Tweet author. Learn more Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 16m My god you have all actually completely lost it. Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 You see the joke was that they keep briefing stupid stories about the fact there is going to be an election even though it would be insane to have an election. And after today it would obviously be more insane. 4:05 PM · Jul 5, 2022 from City of London, London·Twitter for Android 20 Likes
Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 10m Replying to @chriscurtis94 No really, he isn't going to call an election, and people that day otherwise are talking crap. Even if he tried to call an election, the cabinet won't let him have an election. The idea is completely bananas. I thought this was assumed. Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 · 5m If he calls an election in the next week I will run down Whitehall in my underwear as the exit poll is being released. It isn't going to happen.
Dunno who Curtis is but never seen a clearer illustration that explaining equals losing
But the interesting bit is that the idea of Bozo calling an election should be seen as a complete joke based on polling yet sane people believe it's possible because
1) Bozo is a clown 2) Seemingly people were saying such things a couple of weeks back to take advantage were SKS to get a FPN..
I'm sure there's a strategist somewhere that thinks that Lab/LD/SNP/Green coalition is a ticking bomb too enticing not to light the blue touch paper.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Possibility 3: a non-US power or agency has realised the ability to "fake" aliens, by projecting holograms or somesuch, tho this raises the question how and why they've been able to do it for decades (apparently)
Possiblity 4: we are seeing a genuine mass groupthink meltdown in elite America, which seems unlikely but then every explanation is unlikely
The theory that this is aliens and has all been covered up stems from the 1952 DC flyover. The Aliens basically demonstrated they could go where they wanted, when they wanted and the US establishment collectively wet its pants. Prior to this research was open, undecided and there was genuine scientific curiosity. Immediately after everything was set to 'debunk' mode and aimed at hushing it all up/mocking it to provoke disbelief. All ultimately to avoid the panic from 'we are not in control of our skies'
Never heard of Hyneck before. Fascinating guy. Compelling life story
The Lonnie Zamora case was the start of his turn to belief. In itself a very compelling account and a straight up guy who's life was ruined by the publicity. Bob Lazar the Area 51 whistleblower is also fascinating. Talking about element 115 in 1989
So relentless is the juggernaut of scandal surrounding Boris Johnson that it’s worth remembering that Pinchergate, Treehousegate, Carriegate, Blowjobgate, *and* the disastrous by-election results have all happened in just the last two weeks. https://twitter.com/NicholasPegg/status/1544328314118197249
Blowjobgate? I have a vague idea of what the others are…
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Odd physics being discovered these days. I'll throw a possible explanation out there - and that's that whats being seen are effects somehow proapagating back in time. Completely wild nonsense, but it would explain why these effects are seen in US military operational areas, and that's that they're still operational areas in the future.
I'm not even remotely suggesting this is the case, but it's no more weird than the two explanations above.
The earth is rotating on its axis and orbiting the sun in a system that itself is moving relative to the rest of the universe, so I would be surprised if jumps back in time were jumps back to the same place.
You appear to be privileging frames of reference...
“Sixty per cent of Brits earning £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” Highly paid people tend to see themselves as “normal” on the income scale – and “worse off” than their social circle.”
Just bizarre. Perhaps reflects the narrow social circle of some of these people. If you went to private school then a Russell Group Uni straight into a professional job you might genuinely think that a high five figure salary is kind of normal, I guess. I know exactly where I sit in the income distribution.
In London, though, certainly where you live, and where I used to, you are part of a tribe in which this salary is quite normal.
Indeed, a single earner family on those numbers would likely struggle, in Zone 2.
The left field option: Starmer and Raynor are both fined and both resign. Lab leadership contest begins. 'Big Dog' calls snap General Election.
The risk: a spectacular gamble which blows up in the Tories' face as the opposition parties move to ensure only one anti-Tory candidate in each seat. Tories are reduced to a rump/oblivion.
The rewards: secures another 5 years before the economy hits total turdage, preserves own premiership ('Big Dog' is a winner once more), Labour et al not ready for campaign, spikes the Sturge's indyref2 plan B.
It's likely such a move would transgress several conventions, but such trifles do not bother 'Big Dog'. Place bets now...
May called a snap election when she was ahead in the polls and that went badly. Calling a snap election when you are behind in the polls is madness.
Indeed so; however, blessed are we to be living through interesting times.
Highly improbable nonetheless, but not entirely impossible.
Sidenote: once a GE is called, it would be rather difficult/awkward in the extreme for the Tories to remove the incumbent PM.
A final thought: one should never underestimate the self-preservation instincts of a cornered rat - especially not the current occupant of No.10.
I wouldn’t underestimate the preservation instincts of a cornered rat, but it’s not a strategy that delivers self preservation. If Johnson triggered an election, then he’s out of No. 10 in 5 weeks time. Staying put and ignoring cries for his resignation is always going to be a better strategy.
If he’s facing a new vote of confidence, the possibility of winning that vote is always going to be better than the possibility of winning a general election from the dire position he’s in.
Johnson’s go-to strategy is to hang on and hope something turns up. That’s what he’ll try.
A snap GE would be shit or bust for sure. As for the dire position, in the circumstances, Labour are underperforming in the opinion polls. Who knows what effect a double FPN on Starmer and Raynor would have on the ratings? Also, Scotland... If there's a scintilla of weakness, it may - just about - be worth rolling the dice. Plus, Crosby's back. He'll bore down through the gutter to take the fight to the opposition.
The other point is, if not now/soon, then when? The economic situation is deteriorating daily and by 2024 will be too far gone for any incumbent Govt to have a chance of winning. Think: inflation at 20+%, deep recession, spiking interest rates, home repossessions, negative equity, rising unemployment. It's going to be Biblical. It cannot be anything else after the longest period of artifically supressed interest rates in recorded history and, latterly, spraying QE all over the real economy. No Govt will survive that in any event.
A snap election called for no other reason than to keep Johnson in No10 would almost certainly see him turfed out. But I agree with @MarqueeMark - it's highly unlikely that even the stupid party is quite that stupid.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Odd physics being discovered these days. I'll throw a possible explanation out there - and that's that whats being seen are effects somehow proapagating back in time. Completely wild nonsense, but it would explain why these effects are seen in US military operational areas, and that's that they're still operational areas in the future.
I'm not even remotely suggesting this is the case, but it's no more weird than the two explanations above.
The earth is rotating on its axis and orbiting the sun in a system that itself is moving relative to the rest of the universe, so I would be surprised if jumps back in time were jumps back to the same place.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
My scientific training causes me to be open minded, but evidence based. I am also sceptical about people who want to believe in something where all the evidence suggests that something does not exist. I am not saying UFOs cannot exist, it is just that it is massively unlikely. The balance of probability is that it is all nonsense. I will take a look at it later, but must do some work. I will also think of a similarly amusing insult for you at a later date!
I am explicitly saying it is probably not "aliens"
If it is aliens where are the 1000s of photos and videos? We all have smartphones. It doesn't add up. I don't believe Will Smith is going round erasing the memories and phones of millions of witnesses
But that leaves us with the mystery of American behaviour. All these top people, from Obama down, saying this weird shit. And some of them saying it with anguished body language, which suggests something going on under the surface
Where are the photos? Is not a slam dunk argument.
Take a bird like the snipe. Little brown fuckers, not rare, really difficult to shoot because they stay low and jink, hence why snipers are called snipers. If their existence were called in question it would be as difficult to prove it by photos as it is to shoot them
Exhibit b is big cats in Devon and Cornwall. Nobody serious disputes they are out there but no decent focused photos. It's harder than it looks
Interesting
Yet those US pilots report being buzzed by these UFOS every day for two years. And the UFOs are not tiny birds, these are considerable "aircraft" that attain great speed and show advanced maneuverability. So they must be easily visible to the naked eye
So where are the videos and photos of these? I'd whip my bloody iPhone out, sharpish
The whole thing is deeply confounding. I've thought about it hard and I can't find one easy single explanation
I can - lies
Who is lying, and why?
Now THAT is the right question.
Seriously - if US pilots are seeing these things all the time, presumably there is headcam footage? Or cockpit footage? Nope? Then I have to ask why. See also millions of airline passengers over the last 20 years with cameras on their phones - did none of them see these UFO's?
So... you have no answer or theory. OK
In science theories (or perhaps more accurately hypotheses) are built up from observational evidence and data collection. Until such times as you or other 'Alien' advocates can provide such observational evidence there is nothing upon which to construct a theory.
If you want to see someone doing a good job of debunking many of these UFO stories then try reading the Skeptoid Blog. The latest one on the Chilean Navy UFO case is a good example.
I know all about the Chilean UFO story, I have read the entire works of Mick West. Do keep up
Moving on swiftly: Joe Rogan has a new theory (and his opinion is as good as any, as he has interviewed everyone in this story) the USG has an incredible new drone technology, which they want to keep secret, and this whole Flap is an attempt to smokescreen that
That's not a bad theory. It explains a few things - like the anguished behaviour of the CIA director and the DNI woman, they are either acting the anguish, or really anguished by their own lies
It also fits with previous US behaviour
However it doesn't fit with the evidence going back decades, and would an ex president like Obama really join in with this? Hmm
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Odd physics being discovered these days. I'll throw a possible explanation out there - and that's that whats being seen are effects somehow proapagating back in time. Completely wild nonsense, but it would explain why these effects are seen in US military operational areas, and that's that they're still operational areas in the future.
I'm not even remotely suggesting this is the case, but it's no more weird than the two explanations above.
The earth is rotating on its axis and orbiting the sun in a system that itself is moving relative to the rest of the universe, so I would be surprised if jumps back in time were jumps back to the same place.
You appear to be privileging frames of reference...
Keir’s is of course the only EU policy in a country still split on Europe. It’s sensible and doesn’t frighten any horses.
I just wish he hadn’t had referred to “Brexit opportunities”, which is an unnecessary kowtowing to delusion.
Well he's not wrong and only echo chamber FBPEs deny there are any opportunities whatsoever.
There are opportunities to be taken from Brexit, the real argument is whether those opportunities are worth the massive upheaval and shock. Since the latter has already happened, may as well press ahead with the former, no point staying still.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Possibility 3: a non-US power or agency has realised the ability to "fake" aliens, by projecting holograms or somesuch, tho this raises the question how and why they've been able to do it for decades (apparently)
Possiblity 4: we are seeing a genuine mass groupthink meltdown in elite America, which seems unlikely but then every explanation is unlikely
Possibility 5: a few world agencies know about the certainty of intelligent alien life. May have been working with it for decades, or maybe just watching them watching us.
But the view has been taken that human life would just stop on so many levels if the US President goes on telly admitting they are real - "we are not alone" Can you IMAGINE the network news? Nothing else would get a word for weeks, months. Religions might melt down. People would demand to know "Are they hostile?" and take to the hills, regardless of the answers.
Basically: "We can't handle the truth".
The ability of governments to keep a secret on that scale clearly does not exist. That is a flaw in most conspiracy theories.
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
Biden could shake hands with a Grey on the WH lawn and some people would still think it was an 'and finally' story. They're here. 100%. End.
Fascinating. I trust your opinion more than most opinions on PB. You really think it is aliens?
I see two options, both earth altering
1) technology exists and is in practical use beyond our conventonal understanding of Newtonian physics 2) its Aliens/non homo sapiens
I believe its probably 2
If 1, it raises the question of who has developed that technology? Is it i) a state or ii) a series of states working in concert or iii) a series of states working in competition or iv) a crazy wealthy individual with or without a volcano base. If i) then you would think that it could be possible to use it to swat somebody like Putin as an annoying bug. ii) is the least worrying option, iii) is like the race for the Bomb cubed. iv) leaves the notion that someone like Musk can do stuff which scares the shit out of word Governments - because they do not have the military capacity to stop them, even with the best they have.
Of course, it is possible that any of i) to iv) are a hybrid of 1 and 2 - this effort with this technology is supported by aliens.
Possibility 3: a non-US power or agency has realised the ability to "fake" aliens, by projecting holograms or somesuch, tho this raises the question how and why they've been able to do it for decades (apparently)
Possiblity 4: we are seeing a genuine mass groupthink meltdown in elite America, which seems unlikely but then every explanation is unlikely
The theory that this is aliens and has all been covered up stems from the 1952 DC flyover. The Aliens basically demonstrated they could go where they wanted, when they wanted and the US establishment collectively wet its pants. Prior to this research was open, undecided and there was genuine scientific curiosity. Immediately after everything was set to 'debunk' mode and aimed at hushing it all up/mocking it to provoke disbelief. All ultimately to avoid the panic from 'we are not in control of our skies'
Never heard of Hyneck before. Fascinating guy. Compelling life story
For someone with your interest in UFO's to have not encountered Hyneck is amazing. Project Bluebook, Grudge, MJ-12 - its all been out there before. My skepticism is largely based on a long time interest in all things Fortean, and a longstanding disappointment that in an era where everyone has cameras ALL THE TIME, we are no closer to getting conclusive proof of all these odd things that people say happen to them.
Take ABC (anomalous big cats) - as @IshmaelZ says most people in Devon and Cornwall accept them as reality, yet decent photo/film evidence is lacking. Author Merily Harpur goes so far as to propose that they are not actually flesh and blood creatures. By now, with the number of sightings, sometimes really close up, we should have better photos.
Well, that's because I am not THAT interested in aliens, certainly not enough to study the history
I sometimes read the Fortean Times, but I always skip over the UFO pages, because it all seems such obvious nonsense. There have been more interesting things to think about
I have only tuned into this latest iteration BECAUSE of the bizarre behaviour of the American elite. That is the intriguing thing here; the actual evidence is decidedly weak. A couple of grainy photos and vids? Really?
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
My scientific training causes me to be open minded, but evidence based. I am also sceptical about people who want to believe in something where all the evidence suggests that something does not exist. I am not saying UFOs cannot exist, it is just that it is massively unlikely. The balance of probability is that it is all nonsense. I will take a look at it later, but must do some work. I will also think of a similarly amusing insult for you at a later date!
I am explicitly saying it is probably not "aliens"
If it is aliens where are the 1000s of photos and videos? We all have smartphones. It doesn't add up. I don't believe Will Smith is going round erasing the memories and phones of millions of witnesses
But that leaves us with the mystery of American behaviour. All these top people, from Obama down, saying this weird shit. And some of them saying it with anguished body language, which suggests something going on under the surface
Where are the photos? Is not a slam dunk argument.
Take a bird like the snipe. Little brown fuckers, not rare, really difficult to shoot because they stay low and jink, hence why snipers are called snipers. If their existence were called in question it would be as difficult to prove it by photos as it is to shoot them
Exhibit b is big cats in Devon and Cornwall. Nobody serious disputes they are out there but no decent focused photos. It's harder than it looks
Interesting
Yet those US pilots report being buzzed by these UFOS every day for two years. And the UFOs are not tiny birds, these are considerable "aircraft" that attain great speed and show advanced maneuverability. So they must be easily visible to the naked eye
So where are the videos and photos of these? I'd whip my bloody iPhone out, sharpish
The whole thing is deeply confounding. I've thought about it hard and I can't find one easy single explanation
I can - lies
Who is lying, and why?
Now THAT is the right question.
Seriously - if US pilots are seeing these things all the time, presumably there is headcam footage? Or cockpit footage? Nope? Then I have to ask why. See also millions of airline passengers over the last 20 years with cameras on their phones - did none of them see these UFO's?
So... you have no answer or theory. OK
In science theories (or perhaps more accurately hypotheses) are built up from observational evidence and data collection. Until such times as you or other 'Alien' advocates can provide such observational evidence there is nothing upon which to construct a theory.
If you want to see someone doing a good job of debunking many of these UFO stories then try reading the Skeptoid Blog. The latest one on the Chilean Navy UFO case is a good example.
I know all about the Chilean UFO story, I have read the entire works of Mick West. Do keep up
Moving on swiftly: Joe Rogan has a new theory (and his opinion is as good as any, as he has interviewed everyone in this story) the USG has an incredible new drone technology, which they want to keep secret, and this whole Flap is an attempt to smokescreen that
That's not a bad theory. It explains a few things - like the anguished behaviour of the CIA director and the DNI woman, they are either acting the anguish, or really anguished by their own lies
It also fits with previous US behaviour
However it doesn't fit with the evidence going back decades, and would an ex president like Obama really join in with this? Hmm
Have you got anything from Obama apart from him joking on James Corden's show?
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
My scientific training causes me to be open minded, but evidence based. I am also sceptical about people who want to believe in something where all the evidence suggests that something does not exist. I am not saying UFOs cannot exist, it is just that it is massively unlikely. The balance of probability is that it is all nonsense. I will take a look at it later, but must do some work. I will also think of a similarly amusing insult for you at a later date!
I am explicitly saying it is probably not "aliens"
If it is aliens where are the 1000s of photos and videos? We all have smartphones. It doesn't add up. I don't believe Will Smith is going round erasing the memories and phones of millions of witnesses
But that leaves us with the mystery of American behaviour. All these top people, from Obama down, saying this weird shit. And some of them saying it with anguished body language, which suggests something going on under the surface
Where are the photos? Is not a slam dunk argument.
Take a bird like the snipe. Little brown fuckers, not rare, really difficult to shoot because they stay low and jink, hence why snipers are called snipers. If their existence were called in question it would be as difficult to prove it by photos as it is to shoot them
Exhibit b is big cats in Devon and Cornwall. Nobody serious disputes they are out there but no decent focused photos. It's harder than it looks
Interesting
Yet those US pilots report being buzzed by these UFOS every day for two years. And the UFOs are not tiny birds, these are considerable "aircraft" that attain great speed and show advanced maneuverability. So they must be easily visible to the naked eye
So where are the videos and photos of these? I'd whip my bloody iPhone out, sharpish
The whole thing is deeply confounding. I've thought about it hard and I can't find one easy single explanation
I can - lies
Who is lying, and why?
Now THAT is the right question.
Seriously - if US pilots are seeing these things all the time, presumably there is headcam footage? Or cockpit footage? Nope? Then I have to ask why. See also millions of airline passengers over the last 20 years with cameras on their phones - did none of them see these UFO's?
So... you have no answer or theory. OK
In science theories (or perhaps more accurately hypotheses) are built up from observational evidence and data collection. Until such times as you or other 'Alien' advocates can provide such observational evidence there is nothing upon which to construct a theory.
If you want to see someone doing a good job of debunking many of these UFO stories then try reading the Skeptoid Blog. The latest one on the Chilean Navy UFO case is a good example.
“Sixty per cent of Brits earning £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average” Highly paid people tend to see themselves as “normal” on the income scale – and “worse off” than their social circle.”
Just bizarre. Perhaps reflects the narrow social circle of some of these people. If you went to private school then a Russell Group Uni straight into a professional job you might genuinely think that a high five figure salary is kind of normal, I guess. I know exactly where I sit in the income distribution.
In London, though, certainly where you live, and where I used to, you are part of a tribe in which this salary is quite normal.
Indeed, a single earner family on those numbers would likely struggle, in Zone 2.
Oh yes, completely. I am absolutely minted but I'm not going around pretending I'm not. I am well aware that I live in an absurd (but very pleasant) bubble that is a million miles from most people's lives, not least as I grew up in a family that was pretty skint.
Twitter Glenn Campbell@GlennBBC·57m “The Lord Advocate does not have the necessary degree of confidence”
Scotland’s top law officer, Lord Advocate Dorothy Bain confirms she would not be able to “clear” a statement of legal competence for #indyref2 bill, without reference to @UKSupremeCourt
As we wait for Boris to do the honourable thing....
the UAP/UFO story rumbles on, as mystifying as ever
"In April 2014, four naval aviators narrowly escaped disaster. Just as they entered highly controlled airspace for a training exercise, their two F/A-18F fighter jets nearly collided with an unidentified flying object (UFO). To the frustration of dozens of their fellow aviators, such a near-catastrophe was inevitable.
"For months before and after the incident, aircrews flying in “exclusive use” training areas off the U.S. East Coast frequently observed unknown objects exhibiting highly anomalous flight characteristics. Despite the collision hazard posed by the UFOs, aviators lacked a formal mechanism to report the mysterious objects."
You believe in UFOs and you believe in Brexit. In Ireland there are "little people" that if you catch one they will give you a wish. In Cornwall they have similar folk. Also I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
You, Sir, are the leaking rectum of a louse
Hehe, fair play, a most excellent insult. I shall not try to respond. That was an unplayable ace!
You're welcome, and thankyou for the compliment
On a more serious note, there really is, still, a UFO story that needs to be addressed, inasmuch as, if you refuse to believe in UFOs (and fair enough, the evidence is weak), then you have to explain why the American Establishment is behaving so oddly
This video is REALLY worth watching, as it threads that argument together
It will take 5 minutes of your time. At the end you have to ask: why are these senior people saying these strange things
In particular look out for minute 2:40 and minute 3:10. In the first one the ex Director of the CIA looks absolutely tortured, and agonised, as he says these things could be "other forms of life". In the second the Director of National Intelligence struggles to say the word "extra terrestrial" as she admits these might be "extra terrestrials"
Why are they tortured and struggling? Is it because they are part of some grand conspiracy to hoodwink the Chinese and it makes them unhappy? Have these top people simply gone mad? Are they acting? One explanation is that they genuinely think these might be extra terrestrials but the idea is so, er, alien, they find it hard to say
Let me know your thoughts
My scientific training causes me to be open minded, but evidence based. I am also sceptical about people who want to believe in something where all the evidence suggests that something does not exist. I am not saying UFOs cannot exist, it is just that it is massively unlikely. The balance of probability is that it is all nonsense. I will take a look at it later, but must do some work. I will also think of a similarly amusing insult for you at a later date!
I am explicitly saying it is probably not "aliens"
If it is aliens where are the 1000s of photos and videos? We all have smartphones. It doesn't add up. I don't believe Will Smith is going round erasing the memories and phones of millions of witnesses
But that leaves us with the mystery of American behaviour. All these top people, from Obama down, saying this weird shit. And some of them saying it with anguished body language, which suggests something going on under the surface
Where are the photos? Is not a slam dunk argument.
Take a bird like the snipe. Little brown fuckers, not rare, really difficult to shoot because they stay low and jink, hence why snipers are called snipers. If their existence were called in question it would be as difficult to prove it by photos as it is to shoot them
Exhibit b is big cats in Devon and Cornwall. Nobody serious disputes they are out there but no decent focused photos. It's harder than it looks
Interesting
Yet those US pilots report being buzzed by these UFOS every day for two years. And the UFOs are not tiny birds, these are considerable "aircraft" that attain great speed and show advanced maneuverability. So they must be easily visible to the naked eye
So where are the videos and photos of these? I'd whip my bloody iPhone out, sharpish
The whole thing is deeply confounding. I've thought about it hard and I can't find one easy single explanation
I can - lies
Who is lying, and why?
Now THAT is the right question.
Seriously - if US pilots are seeing these things all the time, presumably there is headcam footage? Or cockpit footage? Nope? Then I have to ask why. See also millions of airline passengers over the last 20 years with cameras on their phones - did none of them see these UFO's?
So... you have no answer or theory. OK
In science theories (or perhaps more accurately hypotheses) are built up from observational evidence and data collection. Until such times as you or other 'Alien' advocates can provide such observational evidence there is nothing upon which to construct a theory.
If you want to see someone doing a good job of debunking many of these UFO stories then try reading the Skeptoid Blog. The latest one on the Chilean Navy UFO case is a good example.
This isn't correct - theories are just guesses. A good theory fits the known evidence and makes predictions that can be tested. Theories are not built up in the way you suggest.
See below for a good example - I suggest a theory, and it's immediately shot down. A chap called Popper had rather too much to say on such things!
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Interesting thing about this line “the greased piglet will get away again”. He never got away in the first place. He’s still not got out from under Partygate. And now he never will.
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1544334565145206787
Presumably @HYUFD will support it then?
https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1544334854472585219
If he’s facing a new vote of confidence, the possibility of winning that vote is always going to be better than the possibility of winning a general election from the dire position he’s in.
Johnson’s go-to strategy is to hang on and hope something turns up. That’s what he’ll try.
One female minister was said to be in tears this morning as they tried to decide whether or not to resign.
https://twitter.com/politicshome/status/1544335118864683008
They tied their career to BoZo. This is their reward...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492804/The-uninvited-guest-Chinese-sub-pops-middle-U-S-Navy-exercise-leaving-military-chiefs-red-faced.html
Possiblity 4: we are seeing a genuine mass groupthink meltdown in elite America, which seems unlikely but then every explanation is unlikely
I'm not even remotely suggesting this is the case, but it's no more weird than the two explanations above.
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🧐 Save big dog latest... told PM is working the tearoom to try sooth Tory MPs anger.
V unusual for the middle of a day on a Tuesday... things must be even worse than they look on the airwaves.
But the view has been taken that human life would just stop on so many levels if the US President goes on telly admitting they are real - "we are not alone" Can you IMAGINE the network news? Nothing else would get a word for weeks, months. Religions might melt down. People would demand to know "Are they hostile?" and take to the hills, regardless of the answers.
Basically: "We can't handle the truth".
Hopefully we are seeing the final shitterdämmerung.
Seriously - if US pilots are seeing these things all the time, presumably there is headcam footage? Or cockpit footage?
Nope?
Then I have to ask why.
See also millions of airline passengers over the last 20 years with cameras on their phones - did none of them see these UFO's?
They hate him because he lies all the time, and gets caught. What can he say to alter that?
https://twitter.com/chriscurtis94/status/1544334006883389442
Is there one?
I don’t know.
He has very very few options left, and the last time he “gambled big”, he won.
It’s not impossible, with the consent of his party, he could do so again.
Things will be getting much worse in the coming months. All the while, they will be gazing at their navels, trying to find the best person to clean up the mess.
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OK guys. I assumed this was such a stupidly moronic insane suggestion, that you would obviously realise I was joking. https://twitter.com/chriscurtis94/status/1544334006883389442
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My god you have all actually completely lost it.
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You see the joke was that they keep briefing stupid stories about the fact there is going to be an election even though it would be insane to have an election. And after today it would obviously be more insane.
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No really, he isn't going to call an election, and people that day otherwise are talking crap. Even if he tried to call an election, the cabinet won't let him have an election. The idea is completely bananas. I thought this was assumed.
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If he calls an election in the next week I will run down Whitehall in my underwear as the exit poll is being released. It isn't going to happen.
“Sixty per cent of Brits earning £80,000-£100,000 say they’re “about average”
Highly paid people tend to see themselves as “normal” on the income scale – and “worse off” than their social circle.”
Not. Happening.
https://twitter.com/StarTribune/status/1544331069931003907
NEW: Gunfire at a park along the Mississippi River near downtown Minneapolis wounded 8 people, some of them with critical injuries, officials said.
https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1544335217409810433
"If I knew, I would have gone for 10 million. Not 150,000," he said, referring to the sum in euros that he said he was paid for killing the journalist.
"For me it was just business. Yeah. Business as usual!" he told a Reuters reporter. He later added, "Of course I feel sorry."..
If, like my friends, you are given a £3m house to live in - which is more common sadly than you’d think, in the London middle classes - then your non-asset rich peers basically need to work their whole careers with a considerably higher salary to match.
They are people who earn more than twice your own earnings.
Yebbut that would entail asking Boris Johnson to do something that was not in his personal interest.
So....
Mussolini maybe more apt.
But the interesting bit is that the idea of Bozo calling an election should be seen as a complete joke based on polling yet sane people believe it's possible because
1) Bozo is a clown
2) Seemingly people were saying such things a couple of weeks back to take advantage were SKS to get a FPN..
I just wish he hadn’t had referred to “Brexit opportunities”, which is an unnecessary kowtowing to delusion.
He’s going to call for VAT to be zero rated for energy bills.
Whether it's a great policy financially and otherwise it's not but to return to the EU will take a lot of time and probably longer than the next Parliament regardless of our desires...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6jesg5MYOs
The other point is, if not now/soon, then when? The economic situation is deteriorating daily and by 2024 will be too far gone for any incumbent Govt to have a chance of winning. Think: inflation at 20+%, deep recession, spiking interest rates, home repossessions, negative equity, rising unemployment. It's going to be Biblical. It cannot be anything else after the longest period of artifically supressed interest rates in recorded history and, latterly, spraying QE all over the real economy. No Govt will survive that in any event.
Middle class inflation has been very bad over the last generation, the lifestyle previously enjoyed by quite middling types* is pretty much out of reach now for most.
*Kids in private school. House with grounds in Home Counties. Newish car, and another “runaround”. Second home somewhere in England or France.
Take ABC (anomalous big cats) - as @IshmaelZ says most people in Devon and Cornwall accept them as reality, yet decent photo/film evidence is lacking. Author Merily Harpur goes so far as to propose that they are not actually flesh and blood creatures. By now, with the number of sightings, sometimes really close up, we should have better photos.
If you want to see someone doing a good job of debunking many of these UFO stories then try reading the Skeptoid Blog. The latest one on the Chilean Navy UFO case is a good example.
https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4838
People go to Dubai 4 Xmas?
(Wildly unlikely to happen in my view)
Bob Lazar the Area 51 whistleblower is also fascinating. Talking about element 115 in 1989
'the German economic model depends on cheap Russian gas'
Which is...er....not great, really, is it.....
Indeed, a single earner family on those numbers would likely struggle, in Zone 2.
How badly does he want to lose in November?
But I agree with @MarqueeMark - it's highly unlikely that even the stupid party is quite that stupid.
Moving on swiftly: Joe Rogan has a new theory (and his opinion is as good as any, as he has interviewed everyone in this story) the USG has an incredible new drone technology, which they want to keep secret, and this whole Flap is an attempt to smokescreen that
https://twitter.com/UAPJames/status/1543974977363394562?s=20&t=ZRFcmuvEZfTC1dqLARj3xQ
Watch from minute 8:00
That's not a bad theory. It explains a few things - like the anguished behaviour of the CIA director and the DNI woman, they are either acting the anguish, or really anguished by their own lies
It also fits with previous US behaviour
However it doesn't fit with the evidence going back decades, and would an ex president like Obama really join in with this? Hmm
https://twitter.com/hoffman_noa/status/1544334019030130689
Am told PPS resignations coming later today, usual caveats. Meanwhile coordinated 1922 efforts in motion. Plan is to change leadership rules BEFORE summer recess.
There are opportunities to be taken from Brexit, the real argument is whether those opportunities are worth the massive upheaval and shock. Since the latter has already happened, may as well press ahead with the former, no point staying still.
I sometimes read the Fortean Times, but I always skip over the UFO pages, because it all seems such obvious nonsense. There have been more interesting things to think about
I have only tuned into this latest iteration BECAUSE of the bizarre behaviour of the American elite. That is the intriguing thing here; the actual evidence is decidedly weak. A couple of grainy photos and vids? Really?
It isn’t good enough and each day that passes those who sit in cabinet will be more complicit with this farcical situation.
Time4change.
https://twitter.com/AnthonyMangnal1/status/1544345785726185472
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Glenn Campbell@GlennBBC·57m
“The Lord Advocate does not have the necessary degree of confidence”
Scotland’s top law officer, Lord Advocate Dorothy Bain confirms she would not be able to “clear” a statement of legal competence for #indyref2 bill, without reference to @UKSupremeCourt
https://gov.scot/binaries/conte
https://twitter.com/GlennBBC/status/1544331934796595200
Ruth Davidson@RuthDavidsonPC·6m
“In the present case, the Lord Advocate does not have the necessary degree of confidence”
Wonder why Scot Gov waited til 2 days after HR broke up to release this? No opportunity to question ministers or law officers for 7 weeks... 🤔
Devastating.
https://gov.scot/binaries/conte
https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonPC/status/1544343852466769922
See below for a good example - I suggest a theory, and it's immediately shot down. A chap called Popper had rather too much to say on such things!