Phil Tye (Labour Party) 1,618 Jack Paul Simm (Conservative Party) 923 Christopher Crozier (Green Party) 337
In 2021 Labour held with less than 100 majority.
Huge swing back to Labour there in the Red Wall.
Interesting.
Shouldnt we be comparing votes from the 2018 election when it was last contested? Now 56% 32%, then 52% 32%
One of the problems with that, it is May’s Anus Horribilis before Boris Love, actually swept the nation. To be fair, Although Conservatives in power since 2010, Boris platform ran against the Cameron & May administrations to a degree as a fresh start. What we most wish to learn from these real votes is extent Boris love from last three years is becoming electorally unpopular?
OMG, Wordle is just taking the piss with its words now
Wordle 320 5/6
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Very common word for americans. The national pastime etc. Just about acceptable as a British word, in its second meaning, but very obscure. New puzzle in 4 mins…
I don’t play wordle, but following your clues…is it FANNY?
Reports that the two Russian tank brigades in the salient to the South of Izium are being withdrawn for regrouping after being heavily mauled. Not sure if this means the salient shrinks or is simply backfilled with additional cannon fodder.
Kind of exasperating how the pundits spend hours analysing Sunderland simply because there’s nothing else to talk about, whereas more interesting councils that report at (say) 2am get skipped over.
Reports that the two Russian tank brigades in the salient to the South of Izium are being withdrawn for regrouping after being heavily mauled. Not sure if this means the salient shrinks or is simply backfilled with additional cannon fodder.
Allen Curtis (Liberal Democrat) 1,511 Steven Hansom (Labour and Co-operative Party) 851 Tom Cuthbertson (Conservative Party) 565 Richard Peter Bradley (Green Party) 115
Big Dog vote still holding up in Labour heartlands?
Lib Dems also now hurting Labour in red wall heartlands?
I need to pee - stop all the counts!
Doxford was Labour over the Tories by 57 votes in 2018. With LD nowhere. It was LD over Labour by 23% in 2021.
Reports that the two Russian tank brigades in the salient to the South of Izium are being withdrawn for regrouping after being heavily mauled. Not sure if this means the salient shrinks or is simply backfilled with additional cannon fodder.
The cannon fodder well is running dry:
An aggressive draft campaign by the Russian-backed separatists who control parts of eastern Ukraine has emptied the area’s streets of military-age men, with many in hiding to avoid being sent to the frontline.
In a sign of how desperate pro-Russia authorities are to bolster the ranks of fighters, in late March they announced that the upper age limit of the draft had been raised from 55 to 65 in Donetsk, local media reported. And on Saturday authorities announced a mobilisation in the region of Kherson, which was largely captured by Russia after the war began.
Men who do not want to become cannon fodder in a war they do not support, against a country – Ukraine – that most of them still consider their own, are spending their days in hiding. Locals joke that they now live in a town of Amazons, run by women.
Husbands, sons and brothers live in basements or locked indoors. They cannot stay in their own homes because registration is by address. Instead they stay at the homes of friends or relatives where no military-age men are listed as residents.
Phil Tye (Labour Party) 1,618 Jack Paul Simm (Conservative Party) 923 Christopher Crozier (Green Party) 337
In 2021 Labour held with less than 100 majority.
Huge swing back to Labour there in the Red Wall.
Interesting.
Shouldnt we be comparing votes from the 2018 election when it was last contested? Now 56% 32%, then 52% 32%
One of the problems with that, it is May’s Anus Horribilis before Boris Love, actually swept the nation. To be fair, Although Conservatives in power since 2010, Boris platform ran against the Cameron & May administrations to a degree as a fresh start. What we most wish to learn from these real votes is extent Boris love from last three years is becoming electorally unpopular?
Kind of exasperating how the pundits spend hours analysing Sunderland simply because there’s nothing else to talk about, whereas more interesting councils that report at (say) 2am get skipped over.
It's a little bit of influence for a place which doesn't have much. If more interesting Councils are narked, there is always the option of training up a super efficient delivery and counting team.
Kind of exasperating how the pundits spend hours analysing Sunderland simply because there’s nothing else to talk about, whereas more interesting councils that report at (say) 2am get skipped over.
It's a little bit of influence for a place which doesn't have much. If more interesting Councils are narked, there is always the option of training up a super efficient delivery and counting team.
In fairness, on Brexit night Sunderland was VERY interesting thanks to the spreadsheet on here.
Phil Tye (Labour Party) 1,618 Jack Paul Simm (Conservative Party) 923 Christopher Crozier (Green Party) 337
In 2021 Labour held with less than 100 majority.
Huge swing back to Labour there in the Red Wall.
Interesting.
Shouldnt we be comparing votes from the 2018 election when it was last contested? Now 56% 32%, then 52% 32%
One of the problems with that, it is May’s Anus Horribilis before Boris Love, actually swept the nation. To be fair, Although Conservatives in power since 2010, Boris platform ran against the Cameron & May administrations to a degree as a fresh start. What we most wish to learn from these real votes is extent Boris love from last three years is becoming electorally unpopular?
The Scottish and Welsh elections last took place in 2017 - which was the big Conservative win during the 2017 GE campaign.
2019 the conservatives lost 1300 seats?
Let’s just say, the last 7 years have been extraordinary times? 🙂
But what matters most here, what we can learn about 2024, and from early red wall results, Big Dog votes seem to be holding up well where he needs them?
The 2019 election had both the largest number of councillors and these were previously contested in the big Conservative win of 2015.
Reports that the two Russian tank brigades in the salient to the South of Izium are being withdrawn for regrouping after being heavily mauled. Not sure if this means the salient shrinks or is simply backfilled with additional cannon fodder.
The cannon fodder well is running dry:
An aggressive draft campaign by the Russian-backed separatists who control parts of eastern Ukraine has emptied the area’s streets of military-age men, with many in hiding to avoid being sent to the frontline.
In a sign of how desperate pro-Russia authorities are to bolster the ranks of fighters, in late March they announced that the upper age limit of the draft had been raised from 55 to 65 in Donetsk, local media reported. And on Saturday authorities announced a mobilisation in the region of Kherson, which was largely captured by Russia after the war began.
Men who do not want to become cannon fodder in a war they do not support, against a country – Ukraine – that most of them still consider their own, are spending their days in hiding. Locals joke that they now live in a town of Amazons, run by women.
Husbands, sons and brothers live in basements or locked indoors. They cannot stay in their own homes because registration is by address. Instead they stay at the homes of friends or relatives where no military-age men are listed as residents.
Interesting swings from LD and Green to Lab since 2021 in Newcastle and Sunderland, but still good results for LDs coimpared with 2018. Layla Moran on LBC reporting big swings from Tories to LDs - tougher vs Labour.
Twitter says Labour is doing OK in Sunderland but that OK in Sunderland suggests rather better in the rest of the Red Wall.
And perhaps quite well in Westminster.
Not sure there's a clear read through from Sunderland to Westminster.
Radio 4 saying the Tories are in big trouble
Good. Right now Conservative fortunes are negatively correlated with the fortunes of the country. I hope the Tories get stuffed so hard tonight they prolapse.
Does anyone really think Starmer is going to be Prime Minister based on these results so far? Labour vote going backwards in Sunderland. I don't think voters are happy with the Tories but I don't think they see Labour as an alternative government I think we are heading for 1992 with another Tory majority in 2024.
Does anyone really think Starmer is going to be Prime Minister based on these results so far? Labour vote going backwards in Sunderland. I don't think voters are happy with the Tories but I don't think they see Labour as an alternative government I think we are heading for 1992 with another Tory majority in 2024.
Does anyone really think Starmer is going to be Prime Minister based on these results so far? Labour vote going backwards in Sunderland. I don't think voters are happy with the Tories but I don't think they see Labour as an alternative government I think we are heading for 1992 with another Tory majority in 2024.
Yes. Don't read too much into one town.
Indeed. Labour can stand still in Sunderland. It's the LD's who have gone forward. Labour holds all 3 Westminster seats. With the Tories second. Nevertheless. A 1992 remains possible certainly.
My electoral porn is when there are fewer than 5 votes in it*. What's the closest we've had so far this evening?
*1 is perfect. But I hate a draw. That's a sickener for the loser.
Halton - Daresbury, Moore & Sandymoor Hutchinson Anna Christina Labour Party 398 Kinchin Richard Stephen Green Party 372 Davidson Sian Fiona Alexandra The Conservative Party 399 Elected
My electoral porn is when there are fewer than 5 votes in it*. What's the closest we've had so far this evening?
*1 is perfect. But I hate a draw. That's a sickener for the loser.
Halton - Daresbury, Moore & Sandymoor Hutchinson Anna Christina Labour Party 398 Kinchin Richard Stephen Green Party 372 Davidson Sian Fiona Alexandra The Conservative Party 399 Elected
29 votes off winning; finished last. Epic result for the Green candidate.
The hell is happening in South Tyneside? Three Green gains, two from Labour, one from Con.
It’s not going the way labour we’re hoping for up North. surprising considering opinion poll north sub samples have been promising for Labour all year so far.
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Noted for its yellow peril.
It was LD over Labour by 23% in 2021.
If more interesting Councils are narked, there is always the option of training up a super efficient delivery and counting team.
Each local election is different.
Don't know where? (Sunderland Council Offices)
Don't know when? (First scheduled.full Council meeting).
Labour hold St Ann's, which was lost by 3 votes in 2021
Susan Watson (Labour Party) 1,061
Bryan George Foster (Conservative Party) 840
Raymond Moore (Green Party) 273
Bunce ?
And perhaps quite well in Westminster.
I assumed it was the Greek geezer. NYT n’all
EDIT - "Bunts" is, multiple of bunt
A. D'ohndt!
Labour hold control.
Graeme Miller (Labour and Co-operative Party) 1, 454
Peter Noble (Conservative Party) 1, 310
it was a split ward last year.
Miller is the council leader
Lab -3%
Con +0.3%
LD +4%
Ind -2%
We must now consider the odds of a Labour landslide.
*1 is perfect. But I hate a draw. That's a sickener for the loser.
Sunderland, change in share of vote:
Lab -3%
Con +0.3%
LD +4%
Ind -2%
Hat tip vote-2012
Lab 1311
Con 1283
Grn 277
LD +2
Con -1
Lab -1
It is a bit confusing.
Apparently it was a tie to begin with, and they had to draw lots.
Don't read too much into one town.
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Sunderland, change in share of vote:
Lab -3%
Con +0.3%
LD +4%
Ind -2%
2021 seemed to have new boundaries:
https://councillors.halton.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?ID=201&RPID=28170393
Bedtime for me...
https://hbcnewsroom.co.uk/council-election-results/
The Appleton result look strage. May have been put the numbers in the wrong rows
I’m wondering if the main story of the night might be the LD’s eating into the Tory core vote…?
Nevertheless. A 1992 remains possible certainly.
Back in 2015 Labour won 24/25 in Sunderland.
Hutchinson Anna Christina Labour Party 398
Kinchin Richard Stephen Green Party 372
Davidson Sian Fiona Alexandra The Conservative Party 399 Elected
Which is the third?
But Sunderland has shown more general anti-Labour voting in local elections.
Which suggests some issue with how the council is run.
That qualifies as a surprise as the Greens polled 13% in 2021
Lab 14 (including the double vacancy) (-4)
Ind 2 (+2)
Greens 3 (+3)
Con 0 (-1)
Lab 29,628
Con 20,602
LD 10,294
Green 4,410
Ind 1,457
Freedom Alliance 120
Communist 30
Lab 44.5%
Con 31.0%
LD 15.5%
Green 6.6%
Ind 2.2%
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/local-elections-north-east-live-23866144