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  • Well it is more than a thing if your contract with Pfizer says you aren't allowed to make public the exact numbers for future deliveries, and if you break the T&Cs they have the rights to not deliver.

    The government have made it known there are 20 odd million doses on British soil that need Q&A and bottling. If vaccinations rates fail to speed up in the next couple of weeks, then there will be questions asked, have they been Q&A'ed (and if not, why not), have they been bottled (and if not, who not), and if they have been Q&A / bottled, why aren't they reaching vaccinations centres.
    Ok, good, thanks for that.
    I think as long as we know what the rate-limited factors are that's probably good enough. And if it becomes availability, is that because of government decisions on purchases, or because the pharmas are at maximum manufacturing capacity.
    We don't want to put blame in the wrong place, if things go wrong.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,620

    Worse telly and films might be partly due to the virus (even absent studio audiences can make a difference) but perhaps also to the likes of Netflix and Amazon taking talent from Hollywood and the BBC.
    There are multiple ways the arts are going to be damaged by Covid. From lack of audiences to lack of money to lack of training for new talent to lack of international co-operation. It may take years for TV, movies, theatre, dance, etc, to recover. One of the most melancholy consequences of this wretched pest.

    Novels might get better though. A lot of writers are being forced to stay home and really use their imaginations.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,486
    Dura_Ace said:

    Comrade is party members only. Everyone else is 'Citizen'.
    Bloody communist elitists.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,913
    edited January 2021

    It is not hard to find, however, it is a world where 40% of Americans cant find the correct election result. It would be better if the people at test and trace could communicate it!
    True. If they are really sat around all day (as reported) you'd think they might use some of that to read the regulations. It shouldn't need a script.

    Are they still working from home? Maybe not if asking a manager involves getting up.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,371
    edited January 2021

    We need a big number today Francis, 270k+ ––– or I will be back with my cricket analogies!
    I have always been working on the expectation they won't make mid-Feb, but won't miss it by miles and miles. There are so many moving parts, so many things that can slow it down enough.

    What we do want to see is come mid Feb that it is flying. Regular supply of 3+ million a week and that is getting translated into that being basically used up immediately. Then hopefully come April, we will start to get Moderna and J&J supply, and be able to expand even further.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,654

    Just vaccinate all the sodding footballers.
    With bromide.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,809
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-vaccination-rate-will-more-than-double-to-500-000-a-day-28p9hqz2g

    3.8m jabs next week, sounds like we're finally kicking this into top gear.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702

    Have you read the article?
    1. The "SNP hindering fishing" accusation is from the Tories
    2. The fisherman quoted in the article says "“I’m questioning whether to carry on”
    3. The CEO of Seafood Scotland is quoted saying "“The last 48 hours has really delivered what was expected – new bureaucratic non-tariff barriers, and no one body with the tools to be able to fix the situation."
    4. The CEO of Scotland Food and Drink is quoted saying "“We have warned for months about the lack of preparation time for everyone involved and these problems sadly come as little surprise"

    Your "wrong sort of fishermen" comment implies the article has fishing folk attacking the Scottish government. They are not. Thats the Tories. The industry is saying "we warned for months. This was expected. Is it worth carrying on"

    You were saying...?
    Seafood Scotland is an industry body that has been funded by the EU, and The Scottish Government:
    https://www.fishfarmingexpert.com/article/eu-cash-boost-for-seafood-scotland/
    https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/ssa-seafish-must-change/

    So it's hardly surprising that the woman quoted launches into a rant about Brexit, whilst also being at pains to give a long and detailed explanation as to why checks by the Scottish agency concerned are taking so long, which absolves them of all blame.

    Scotland Food and Drink is another quango funded by the Scottish Government.

    These criticisms are no more valid than the opposing ones of the Scottish Tories - and in fact it's far more insidious to use quasi-independent public bodies to parrot your lines. The fact that they are doing this seems to be made quite clear by the lack of Scottish Government comment - they didn't need to.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795

    London appears to be lagging behind in England's vaccine race, the latest data has revealed.

    According to new regional data released today by the NHS, the Midlands, North East and Yorkshire and the South East have seen the highest numbers of vaccinations between December 8 and January 10.

    More than 447,329 doses (including first and second jabs) have been administered in the Midlands while the North East and Yorkshire has seen 433,045 doses and the South East has seen 411,257.

    In contrast the fewest (236,023) have been handed out in the East of England, while London has seen 237,524 doses. The South West has seen 285,332 doses.

    I dare say that London has a greater proportion of Group 10 (low risk) individuals than any other region. Younger, fitter, slimmer population.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,913
    edited January 2021
    MaxPB said:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-vaccination-rate-will-more-than-double-to-500-000-a-day-28p9hqz2g

    3.8m jabs next week, sounds like we're finally kicking this into top gear.

    I can confirm that there are still vaccination centres being built, so there's definitely some ramping up in the pipeline.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,371
    edited January 2021
    MaxPB said:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-vaccination-rate-will-more-than-double-to-500-000-a-day-28p9hqz2g

    3.8m jabs next week, sounds like we're finally kicking this into top gear.

    One slight concern in that leaked info, a 2 week "break" period where they expected no new vaccines to be delivered. Now that might have just been a mistake, but bit worrying if that is the case.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    MaxPB said:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-vaccination-rate-will-more-than-double-to-500-000-a-day-28p9hqz2g

    3.8m jabs next week, sounds like we're finally kicking this into top gear.

    Now THAT is more bloody like it!

    Let's see if they can deliver on it.

  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702
    Leon said:

    That one wasn’t as good as it is so clearly untrue. A ‘deep and lasting love’, for the EU???

    As spouses go the EU was a manipulative liar, but he earned decent money, even if he spent too much of it on booze. His conversation was boring, the sex was awful, yet his cash provided a big shiny house. He kept promising to mend his ways, the drinking and the lies, yet never did.

    We tolerated all of this - a sterile marriage to a feckless boor - because divorce seemed so daunting. And that new bathroom was so big.

    But then he started making demands on us, ordering us to stay home and cook, or to do all the housework in the nude while he languidly masturbated on the sofa we both paid for. Then he said, during yet another awful boozy dinner, that he wanted a threesome with the neighbour’s uncle.

    That’s when we left.
    What shiny house did the EU ever provide? We never became a beneficiary even with Maggie's rebate.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331

    We need a big number today Francis, 270k+ ––– or I will be back with my cricket analogies!
    A ‘Daddy double-century’?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,620
    Photographer friend of mine has just been given an assignment. We have both agreed it is the worst commission he’s ever had. He has to go out this afternoon in the freezing winter sleet to photograph a food bank in Tottenham, during a deadly global plague. It just edges out the Haiti earthquake job.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,809

    One slight concern in that leaked info, a 2 week "break" period where they expected no new vaccines to be delivered. Now that might have just been a mistake, but bit worrying if that is the case.
    It seems unlikely.
  • "We don't want to put blame in the wrong place, if things go wrong."

    new around here?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,707
    edited January 2021

    Saw a tweet yesterday that mentioned that Hitler was originally given 5 years for the Munich putsch but was released after one in the interests of healing and reconciliation. Much healing and many reconciliations followed.
    I think the healing can only start when he makes a statement to his base that the election was not fraudulent. Something simple and clear, not hedged with arch undertone, nor looking like a hostage video where he's stiff and reading it out. If this is not forthcoming, forget about it, the "healing" talk will remain as pseudy bollox from people who feel they have to say something but are unable to say anything interesting or useful.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,200
    Stocky said:

    "and they're better and happier fish for it" - nice - he`s a card isn`t he?
    I think your spellchecker accidentally swapped t and u for c and a.
  • Seafood Scotland is an industry body that has been funded by the EU, and The Scottish Government:
    https://www.fishfarmingexpert.com/article/eu-cash-boost-for-seafood-scotland/
    https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/ssa-seafish-must-change/

    So it's hardly surprising that the woman quoted launches into a rant about Brexit, whilst also being at pains to give a long and detailed explanation as to why checks by the Scottish agency concerned are taking so long, which absolves them of all blame.

    Scotland Food and Drink is another quango funded by the Scottish Government.

    These criticisms are no more valid than the opposing ones of the Scottish Tories - and in fact it's far more insidious to use quasi-independent public bodies to parrot your lines. The fact that they are doing this seems to be made quite clear by the lack of Scottish Government comment - they didn't need to.
    Right. So industry bodies representing fishermen only merit the same weight in their knowledge of fishing as Tory MP.

    You are Andrea Leadsom. On Newsnight. Explaining to the former head of the WTO why he is wrong about how the WTO works.
  • Sandpit said:

    The problem of footballers misbehaving isn’t going to go away, unless there’s a sporting sanction that wakes up the club chairmen.

    Play the youth team or forfeit the match.
    I'd add that if there's evidence of a player breaking the bubble, they are treated as if self-isolating and are not allowed to train/play for 10 days.
  • eek said:

    Going back to Trump - one reason why he is attacking Rudy https://twitter.com/davepell/status/1349603201087991809

    How much of the blame for the speech last Wednesday can he spread elsewhere.

    You would have thought Republicans might learn that running with Trump doesnt stop you being attacked by him, it merely delays it. To stop getting attacked by him they have to take away his power.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795

    A ‘Daddy double-century’?
    We need Daddy Treble Tons pretty soon! :)
  • MaxPB said:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-vaccination-rate-will-more-than-double-to-500-000-a-day-28p9hqz2g

    3.8m jabs next week, sounds like we're finally kicking this into top gear.

    Good.

    That's the rate we need to be going at. When people were being sceptical about 2m a week I thought it would have to be just a staging post to getting towards even higher figures.

    The early data out of Israel looks promising that this is working there in reducing the load and so we should soon start seeing a real impact in this country too.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,423

    I'm not sure "telling lies" breaks any law.

    For American democracy's sake the "winner" in all this has to be "the rule of law" - and those who broke it, or incited the breaking of it, should face justice.

    This "it's time to heal (and ignore previous law breaking)" smacks of murdering your parents then pleading for leniency as an orphan.
    Yes, its all very well talking of taking the high road and of course any congressional process needs to be focused on recent events not a general complaint about Trumps behaviour, but it isn't taking the high road to ignore crimes.

    That's not being the better person in an attempt to heal. It's doing a disservice to the public and the constitution by taking an easy and quieter way out rather than undertake a duty to hold the president to account, even for actions in his last days.

    Its the appearance of high mindedness only.
  • Good.

    That's the rate we need to be going at. When people were being sceptical about 2m a week I thought it would have to be just a staging post to getting towards even higher figures.

    The early data out of Israel looks promising that this is working there in reducing the load and so we should soon start seeing a real impact in this country too.
    If it true they get all care home residents done in the next few days, that will also be a huge win.
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    DavidL said:

    It was a bit dark and horrible for me to be honest. Won't be watching the rest. The idea that he apparently got away with this is quite disturbing.
    According to Wikipedia, he did 21 years in Indian jails, and now is in jail in Nepal.
  • Good.

    That's the rate we need to be going at. When people were being sceptical about 2m a week I thought it would have to be just a staging post to getting towards even higher figures.

    The early data out of Israel looks promising that this is working there in reducing the load and so we should soon start seeing a real impact in this country too.
    I've been keeping half an eye on Israel. Any links to the promising early data please?
  • The home secretary has said the government will not announce new Covid restrictions on Thursday or Friday, but did not rule out further measures being announced next week.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55663308

    Lockdown++++++ next week it is then.
  • Right. So industry bodies representing fishermen only merit the same weight in their knowledge of fishing as Tory MP.

    You are Andrea Leadsom. On Newsnight. Explaining to the former head of the WTO why he is wrong about how the WTO works.
    If "fishing" is so badly affected right now why is it Scottish fishermen funded by the SNP that are the only vocal ones being quoted all the time?

    Where is the outrage from English fishermen?
  • eekeek Posts: 29,696
    edited January 2021

    You would have thought Republicans might learn that running with Trump doesnt stop you being attacked by him, it merely delays it. To stop getting attacked by him they have to take away his power.
    A lot of people are scared that trying to remove the Queen Bee from the hive may result in them being stung (possibly stung to death) by the worker bees the Queen controlled.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118
    Leon said:

    That one wasn’t as good as it is so clearly untrue. A ‘deep and lasting love’, for the EU???

    As spouses go the EU was a manipulative liar, but he earned decent money, even if he spent too much of it on booze. His conversation was boring, the sex was awful, yet his cash provided a big shiny house. He kept promising to mend his ways, the drinking and the lies, yet never did.

    We tolerated all of this - a sterile marriage to a feckless boor - because divorce seemed so daunting. And that new bathroom was so big.

    But then he started making demands on us, ordering us to stay home and cook, or to do all the housework in the nude while he languidly masturbated on the sofa we both paid for. Then he said, during yet another awful boozy dinner, that he wanted a threesome with the neighbour’s uncle.

    That’s when we left.
    Thanks both of you. It's been a while since Brexit raised a smile.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795

    Good.

    That's the rate we need to be going at. When people were being sceptical about 2m a week I thought it would have to be just a staging post to getting towards even higher figures.

    The early data out of Israel looks promising that this is working there in reducing the load and so we should soon start seeing a real impact in this country too.
    Thanks Philip – interesting about Israel. Do you have a good link sir?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,707
    Stocky said:

    "and they're better and happier fish for it" - nice - he`s a card isn`t he?
    I sense he really does think this sort of thing is endearing. That it shows he doesn't take himself too seriously. But it jars with me, it really does. I prefer my toffs to play it straight.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118
    TimT said:

    According to Wikipedia, he did 21 years in Indian jails, and now is in jail in Nepal.
    Good to hear. He deserved that at the least.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,696

    If "fishing" is so badly affected right now why is it Scottish fishermen funded by the SNP that are the only vocal ones being quoted all the time?

    Where is the outrage from English fishermen?
    They don't have the media contacts the Scottish fishermen have?
  • Sky - Ministers set to announce travel ban from Brazil over new variant
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    edited January 2021

    I've been keeping half an eye on Israel. Any links to the promising early data please?
    Thread here.

    https://twitter.com/eladgil/status/1349159772868603904
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,564

    Seafood Scotland is an industry body that has been funded by the EU, and The Scottish Government:
    https://www.fishfarmingexpert.com/article/eu-cash-boost-for-seafood-scotland/
    https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/ssa-seafish-must-change/

    So it's hardly surprising that the woman quoted launches into a rant about Brexit, whilst also being at pains to give a long and detailed explanation as to why checks by the Scottish agency concerned are taking so long, which absolves them of all blame.

    Scotland Food and Drink is another quango funded by the Scottish Government.

    These criticisms are no more valid than the opposing ones of the Scottish Tories - and in fact it's far more insidious to use quasi-independent public bodies to parrot your lines. The fact that they are doing this seems to be made quite clear by the lack of Scottish Government comment - they didn't need to.
    Are all those processes not devolved....
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,809

    I dare say that London has a greater proportion of Group 10 (low risk) individuals than any other region. Younger, fitter, slimmer population.
    Yes, I expect London has a much smaller proportion of the target groups than the population generally. 10% is probably about right.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,423
    Leon said:

    It gets WORSE in episode 2. That’s where I gave up
    Sounds like a brief show called the Event right after Lost became a hit, with its heavy use of flashbacks. The Event would flash back within flashbacks, it was so incoherent.

    Playing around with narrative structure can work great, but you have to be good to pull it off.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702
    edited January 2021

    Right. So industry bodies representing fishermen only merit the same weight in their knowledge of fishing as Tory MP.

    You are Andrea Leadsom. On Newsnight. Explaining to the former head of the WTO why he is wrong about how the WTO works.
    No, I'm not saying that, I am sure that the Seafood Scotland representative knows a lot about fishing (the head of Scotland Food & Drink I wouldn't be as sure of at all - his knowledge will be far less specialised, and the Tory MSP's could well be as knowledgable).

    What I am saying has nothing to do with knowledge, it has to do with using their statements and their positions as 'industry representatives' to push a political agenda. You've dismissed the opinons of the Tory MSP's as political, but you think we should take the opinions of Scottish Government appointees with clear financial links to the EU as gospel.

    Of course, you did know that, you just thought it was cute to appear stupid. Which it wasn't.
  • Thread here.

    https://twitter.com/eladgil/status/1349159772868603904
    Perfect. Cheers.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,371
    edited January 2021
    I see Gordon Brittas is at a vaccination centre yet again today....where are the tweets claiming he doesn't need to be doing that? He isn't following the guidance of stay home? etc etc etc
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,098

    I've been keeping half an eye on Israel. Any links to the promising early data please?

    I've been keeping half an eye on Israel. Any links to the promising early data please?
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-data-shows-50-reduction-in-infections-14-days-after-first-vaccine-shot/
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,390
    Leon said:

    Submissives who like degradation are not THAT uncommon. Check FetLife.com. You might find someone else to call you names
    If degradation and name calling is your thing I know just the website for you...
  • eekeek Posts: 29,696
    edited January 2021

    Sky - Ministers set to announce travel ban from Brazil over new variant

    It's the Hokey Cokey variant rather than a Samba variant.

    We put a travel ban in, put the travel ban out.
    In, out, in, out we shake it all about.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,668

    The home secretary has said the government will not announce new Covid restrictions on Thursday or Friday, but did not rule out further measures being announced next week.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55663308

    Lockdown++++++ next week it is then.

    I don't think so. Usually it's - 2pm: "no more restrictions" 5pm: more restrictions.

    They have learned to move more quickly but I think they are seeing if the vaccine will affect numbers and whether cases/hospitalisations stabilise.
  • eek said:

    They don't have the media contacts the Scottish fishermen have?
    The media is interested in a story, if there is a story there to be had then why can't the Mirror or Guardian or Independent or BBC or Sky or New European or Scott find it?

    Why is it SNP funded Scots dominating? I don't think the absence of the media in England meets Occam's Razor.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,743

    If "fishing" is so badly affected right now why is it Scottish fishermen funded by the SNP that are the only vocal ones being quoted all the time?

    Where is the outrage from English fishermen?
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1383213/Brexit-news-EU-trade-deal-fishing-latest-Kirkella-freezer-super-trawler

    A BRITISH super trawler responsible for around 10 percent of fish sold in UK chip shops has been left abandoned as a post-Brexit agreement is yet to be finalised for catches in Arctic waters.

    The Kirkella freezer trawler is currently docked in Hull and has been unable to set sail since the Brexit-era began on January 1.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,423
    I can never tell if hes in on the joke of his manner or not.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795

    If it true they get all care home residents done in the next few days, that will also be a huge win.
    Absolutely. Spot on.

    Vallance had a staggering stat to share on Peston last night - you only need to vaccinate 20 care home residents to save one life.

    You need to vaccinate 50,000 under-50s to save one life.

    Quite the stat.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118
    This seems a lot of work to go to to prove that Toby is an idiot. I mean, certain things are just self evident, aren't they?
  • eekeek Posts: 29,696
    edited January 2021

    No, I'm not saying that, I am sure that the Seafood Scotland representative knows a lot about fishing (the head of Scotland Food & Drink I wouldn't be as sure of at all - his knowledge will be far less specialised, and the Tory MSP's could well be as knowledgable).

    What I am saying has nothing to do with knowledge, it has to do with using their statements and their positions as 'industry representatives' to push a political agenda. You've dismissed the opinons of the Tory MSP's as political, but you think we should take the opinions of Scottish Government appointees with clear financial links to the EU as gospel.

    Of course, you did know that, you just thought it was cute to appear stupid. Which it wasn't.
    Given that they are presenting evidence with figures to go along their statements why isn't it gospel.

    But I will edit this post to provide some more evidence



    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1383213/Brexit-news-EU-trade-deal-fishing-latest-Kirkella-freezer-super-trawler

    A BRITISH super trawler responsible for around 10 percent of fish sold in UK chip shops has been left abandoned as a post-Brexit agreement is yet to be finalised for catches in Arctic waters.

    The Kirkella freezer trawler is currently docked in Hull and has been unable to set sail since the Brexit-era began on January 1.

  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,585
    kinabalu said:

    Far more Lenin than Brown because it all went on tanks and missiles rather schools and hospitals.
    Not likely to be tanks or missiles in Lenin's time in power...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204
    edited January 2021
    The goal for our rollout apparatus is to become supply limited. The goal for our basic supply is to become rollout limited.
    One or the other will be the bottleneck at any point but we should push both as hard as possible.
  • The government dodged a bullet with Tobster....imagine if he was still had that advisory role to do with education that he had to be removed from before he started.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,620

    What shiny house did the EU ever provide? We never became a beneficiary even with Maggie's rebate.
    Freedom of Movement was the garden (but it meant we got hedgehogs in the kitchen), and the Single Market was the massive house.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,696

    The media is interested in a story, if there is a story there to be had then why can't the Mirror or Guardian or Independent or BBC or Sky or New European or Scott find it?

    Why is it SNP funded Scots dominating? I don't think the absence of the media in England meets Occam's Razor.
    Ask them - I have my theory why (no money left so they won't report stories unless given to them on a plate) but that's my viewpoint it's not the papers.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,809

    Thread here.

    https://twitter.com/eladgil/status/1349159772868603904
    That's excellent news! Vindicates our single jab policy too. Hopefully a single AZ jab is also enough to reduce hospitalisation to minimal levels too.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,707
    edited January 2021
    Leon said:

    Submissives who like degradation are not THAT uncommon. Check FetLife.com. You might find someone else to call you names
    The EU is not that sort of gal. No way!

    But I don't mind as it happens. Is that a good site?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,620
    On topic. Does anyone here use Dropbox? If they do, can they tell me if it’s possible to write documents straight into Dropbox, from an iPad, iPhone or even laptop.

    I love Dropbox but this lack of functionality seems mad. So maybe I’m missing a trick
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,961
    edited January 2021

    If "fishing" is so badly affected right now why is it Scottish fishermen funded by the SNP that are the only vocal ones being quoted all the time?

    Where is the outrage from English fishermen?
    https://thefishingdaily.com/featured-news/cornish-fishermen-betrayed-by-boris-brexit-trade-deal/

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/08/brexit-red-tape-leaves-fish-rotting-cornish-boats/
  • eekeek Posts: 29,696
    Next months battle over school meals has been announced already

    Free school meals will not be extended to England's poorest pupils this half term, see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-55663564
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,911
    DavidL said:

    This seems a lot of work to go to to prove that Toby is an idiot. I mean, certain things are just self evident, aren't they?
    I salute his indefatigability though.
    Someone in the Tory Party needs to do this.
    Again and again.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,371
    edited January 2021
    One bump in the road i can foresee is when we get around to the bulk 2nd doses in 3 months, we need to have enough supply of pfizer for all those who had it first time around. That really is in the hands of Pfizer being able to deliver.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702
    edited January 2021

    The media is interested in a story, if there is a story there to be had then why can't the Mirror or Guardian or Independent or BBC or Sky or New European or Scott find it?

    Why is it SNP funded Scots dominating? I don't think the absence of the media in England meets Occam's Razor.
    Because Scottish Government appointees to public bodies understand that they have to be political, and further the SNP's cause. See also, their Chief Scientific Officer mouthing off at the UK Government, their Government Twitter account shilling for indy in the wake of Brexit.

    There *is* of course a trend the other way, with outfits that receive UK funding bound to be more favourable and maintain a jolly hockey sticks line on what the UK Government is doing. What is problematical about the Scotland situation is that the SNP wishes to demonstrate that the UK isn't working. This means organisations indirectly funded by the UK taxpayer as a whole, could be working deliberately against UK and Scottish interests.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,241
    edited January 2021
    kinabalu said:

    I think the healing can only start when he makes a statement to his base that the election was not fraudulent. Something simple and clear, not hedged with arch undertone, nor looking like a hostage video where he's stiff and reading it out. If this is not forthcoming, forget about it, the "healing" talk will remain as pseudy bollox from people who feel they have to say something but are unable to say anything interesting or useful.
    That's right but it'll never happen; Trump really won is the last article of faith left to Trump and his acolytes.

    Some Trumpers interviewed on R4 just now: no one is giving credit to Trump for the good things he did, the rioters are responsible for their own actions, Biden isn't thinking about me. The stench of self pity and exculpation was overpowering. The idea that people who campaigned for the last 4 years on scorn and contempt and rage should now be given the benefit of the doubt would test even a fuckin saint, and they're in short supply.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,187
    Leon said:

    On topic. Does anyone here use Dropbox? If they do, can they tell me if it’s possible to write documents straight into Dropbox, from an iPad, iPhone or even laptop.

    I love Dropbox but this lack of functionality seems mad. So maybe I’m missing a trick

    I use it.

    It isn't a a word processing programme - its a file storage system.

    You write something in word (or pages) and then save it in your dropbox folder and voila, its in the cloud too - and once the other devices have synced, it is is that dropbox folder on the other device.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795

    Perfect. Cheers.
    Calling all journalists, get a Hebrew translator and do a decent English write up of this.

    It could be THE story.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,620
    Mortimer said:

    I use it.

    It isn't a a word processing programme - its a file storage system.

    You write something in word (or pages) and then save it in your dropbox folder and voila, its in the cloud too - and once the other devices have synced, it is is that dropbox folder on the other device.
    Thanks. But I tried that. I wrote a note in Pages but then it wouldn’t let me save it in Dropbox (I’m on an iPad). I’ll try again....
  • If "fishing" is so badly affected right now why is it Scottish fishermen funded by the SNP that are the only vocal ones being quoted all the time?

    Where is the outrage from English fishermen?
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/14/mps-fishing-areas-criticise-government-brexit-red-tape

    "More than half a dozen English Conservative MPs representing coastal areas also expressed worries, with Steve Double, the MP for St Austell and Newquay in Cornwall, saying his local fleets “benefit little from this deal”.

    Sheryll Murray, the South East Cornwall MP, quoted a local fishing business owner who said border red tape was “posing a real threat to his business”.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-55621259

    To say nothing of the Brixham "no fish will rot" guy now bemoaning rotting fish
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    edited January 2021
    TOPPING said:

    I don't think so. Usually it's - 2pm: "no more restrictions" 5pm: more restrictions.

    They have learned to move more quickly but I think they are seeing if the vaccine will affect numbers and whether cases/hospitalisations stabilise.

    While ever supermarkets remain open more restrictions are pointless. They are clearly the biggest vectors.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,636
    edited January 2021
    eek said:

    A lot of people are scared that trying to remove the Queen Bee from the hive may result in them being stung (possibly stung to death) by the worker bees the Queen controlled.
    Bloody awful metaphor, Eek, but I know what you mean. McConnell, Pence and many other leading Republicans seemed to have made the decision long ago that the best approach was to humour him.

    Hasn't worked out terribly well. Perhaps they should try the 'stand-up-to-the-bastard' strategy for a change.
  • The media is interested in a story, if there is a story there to be had then why can't the Mirror or Guardian or Independent or BBC or Sky or New European or Scott find it?

    Why is it SNP funded Scots dominating? I don't think the absence of the media in England meets Occam's Razor.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/12/24/fisherman-feel-sold-river-brexit-deal/
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,620
    kle4 said:

    I can never tell if hes in on the joke of his manner or not.
    Of course he’s in on it.
  • eek said:

    Next months battle over school meals has been announced already

    Free school meals will not be extended to England's poorest pupils this half term, see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-55663564

    "Let them eat grass"
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    eek said:

    Next months battle U-turn over school meals has been announced already

    Free school meals will not be extended to England's poorest pupils this half term, see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-55663564

    You're welcome. - ed.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,268
    eek said:

    Next months battle over school meals has been announced already

    Free school meals will not be extended to England's poorest pupils this half term, see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-55663564

    Correction: Next month's U-turn over school meals has been signposted already.
  • Because Scottish Government appointees to public bodies understand that they have to be political, and further the SNP's cause. See also, their Chief Scientific Officer mouthing off at the UK Government, their Government Twitter account shilling for indy in the wake of Brexit.

    There *is* of course a trend the other way, with outfits that receive UK funding bound to be more favourable and maintain a jolly hockey sticks line on what the UK Government is doing. What is problematical about the Scotland situation is that the SNP wishes to demonstrate that the UK isn't working. This means organisations indirectly funded by the UK taxpayer as a whole, could be working deliberately against UK and Scottish interests.
    Can you play the opposite side of the argument and give me fishermen delighted with the new arrangements? If its all a politically-motivated SNP lie then where are the industry bods loving it?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,268
    Mortimer said:

    I use it.

    It isn't a a word processing programme - its a file storage system.

    You write something in word (or pages) and then save it in your dropbox folder and voila, its in the cloud too - and once the other devices have synced, it is is that dropbox folder on the other device.
    Google Drive otoh does have those associated tools.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702
    Leon said:

    On topic. Does anyone here use Dropbox? If they do, can they tell me if it’s possible to write documents straight into Dropbox, from an iPad, iPhone or even laptop.

    I love Dropbox but this lack of functionality seems mad. So maybe I’m missing a trick

    Why would you need to? What are you trying to achieve?
  • glwglw Posts: 10,349
    Pulpstar said:

    The goal for our rollout apparatus is to become supply limited. The goal for our basic supply is to become rollout limited.
    One or the other will be the bottleneck at any point but we should push both as hard as possible.

    We should be continuously supply limited if things are working, if would be sheer incompetence to end up limited by the ability to jab someone in the arm.
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 4,757
    edited January 2021

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-data-shows-50-reduction-in-infections-14-days-after-first-vaccine-shot/
    Hmm, that doesn't look that brilliant to me. I seem to remember seeing a graph posted here indicating that the first Pfizer shot reduced the chances of getting covid by 90% after 10 days or so. Here, they seem to be saying that it's more like 50% (or possibly 33%, or 60%) after 14 days. That doesn't sound particularly good to me.
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,628
    Pulpstar said:

    The goal for our rollout apparatus is to become supply limited. The goal for our basic supply is to become rollout limited.
    One or the other will be the bottleneck at any point but we should push both as hard as possible.

    Yes.
    I think at some point we will almost inevitably become supply constrained, because after 12 weeks we have to vaccinate all of those who got the first jab as well as doing new people. The supply is not going to grow as fast as our capacity to inject I think.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,187
    Leon said:

    Thanks. But I tried that. I wrote a note in Pages but then it wouldn’t let me save it in Dropbox (I’m on an iPad). I’ll try again....
    This might help:

    https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/Dropbox-files-folders/Cannot-upload-pages-document-from-ipad-to-dropbox/td-p/331806
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,187


    While ever supermarkets remain open more restrictions are pointless. They are clearly the biggest vectors.
    People keep saying this, but.....

    I haven't heard of any grumbling from supermarket workers (c/f teachers) and people don't spend much time in any one place next to another individual.

    I just don't see why so many people are scared of supermarkets. I was using them throughout in the first wave (sans mask) and not a problem. Ditto everyone else I know...
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,620

    Why would you need to? What are you trying to achieve?
    I’ve had an idea for a new limestone Butt-plug, inspired by Robert Smithson’s head, and I want to note it down. Dropbox is where I keep all my ideas but I’m on my iPad in bed.

    Anyway I’ve solved it. You CAN do it through Pages, but it turns out Dropbox does have this functionality anyway. You just have to download a 2nd app - Dropbox Paper. Syncs seamlessly
  • Leon said:

    I’ve had an idea for a new limestone Butt-plug, inspired by Robert Smithson’s head, and I want to note it down. Dropbox is where I keep all my ideas but I’m on my iPad in bed.
    Will there be with and without specs options?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,268
    Leon said:

    Of course he’s in on it.
    Of course he is. In his own terms he is being very witty.

    The fact that he couldn't give a flying f*ck for the fishermen whose livelihood have been ruined is also plainly obvious.
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 4,757
    edited January 2021
    Mortimer said:

    People keep saying this, but.....

    I haven't heard of any grumbling from supermarket workers (c/f teachers) and people don't spend much time in any one place next to another individual.

    I just don't see why so many people are scared of supermarkets. I was using them throughout in the first wave (sans mask) and not a problem. Ditto everyone else I know...
    Quite a few people have gone down with covid at the missus's workplace. During the first wave, they were the sociable ones - members of choirs, party animals, etc. - but those that caught it during the second wave all caught it off their kids.
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