Can’t argue with any of that Richard; I doubt he’ll be so brave as to change his Shadow Chancellor.
He needs someone obviously better to change it to. I am not sure I am seeing that in the current CLP.
They need Balls and a by-election.
Batley and Spen coming up in the summer...
I'd missed Tracy Brabin going for the Mayor of W Yorks post, in the midst of all this.
Interesting seat for an ex MP or two.
It has to be Laura Pidcock, she can then mount an assault on Starmer's hapless leadership, win and lead the party into Socialist Worker oblivion.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall at a Pidders selection meeting in Batley. They'd wipe t'floor with her. They speak as they find in those parts.
I wouldn't be too sure. Some of the entryist feckwits round our way are getting their knickers in a twist over something or other. They haven't gone away, alas.
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
Really? If you say so.
The duct tape on the floor across the parquet and carpet is an extra classy touch...
I know from experience that those laying temporary cables won't take any shit from anyone, of any level, about leaving them free to be tripped over, no matter the floor surface or decor.
Bonus points when it is yellow and black hazard tape.
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
The *only* thing he got right in that interview was the flag. hand-wringing wishy and indeed washy. Mrs RP (a Labour councillor until last May): "GROW A FUCKING BACKBONE MAN!"
It doesn't matter. No-one will watch the interview or hear what he has to say.
They will notice the flag. But only if it's consistent and part of a trend (Starmer has a habit of one-offs).
Only mentally deficient halfwitted cretins will be happy with a clown with a flag behind him............
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
I don't really get this patriotism stuff at all. You want politicians you can trust not to defecate on the Cenotaph or sell secrets to Russia (Corbyn fell down on both counts) but beyond that, eeeuw. Most people love their mothers, but don't go around advertising the fact or claiming it as a key driver of their choices. The concept of loving one's country is to me intuitively much harder to grasp, and to be treated with at least equal reticence.
Horrible to see someone faking it this way.
Although I think mass immigration is a bad idea, I wouldn't say I was patriotic or proud to be English, even less that British is best or any such nonsense. Cringe tastic really. Maybe he always has a Union Jack in his office like that, I wouldn't know, but it seems so obviously staged,
Not as fake as "Boris" with his ubiquitous UJ backdrop for the Thin Deal. You didn't know where to look.
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
The *only* thing he got right in that interview was the flag. hand-wringing wishy and indeed washy. Mrs RP (a Labour councillor until last May): "GROW A FUCKING BACKBONE MAN!"
Terrible interview. Like Ed Miliband's 'get around the table' strike video.
Aw man, that one was great. I wish more politicians got caught out like that, but so many of them are so afraid of scrutiny you don't even get the chance.
I miss Ed M. Remember the Ed Stone? What a time to be alive that was.
Haha indeed. I remember reading that whilst eating a full english on a weekend at my local cafe (my gf was away and the kitchen was being ripped apart pre replacement - times were dire!). Rang my father and said 'we've won the next election' - such was my conviction that the British people wouldn't warm to 'an NHS with the time to care' and other nonsense phrases.
2 additional points add to the hilarity for me.
The really plain, generic font, which just seemed out of place on a 7ft slab.
And that Labour got fined for not declaring its costs properly.
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
Really? If you say so.
The duct tape on the floor across the parquet and carpet is an extra classy touch...
Difference is unlike Starmer and Johnson she is a real politician and has something valid to say , is not a dithering useless idiot like the other two. Still as the resident Scotland hater you could not help yourself.
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I'm far from enraged but I'm not impressed. Hope it's a passing phase.
If you want to regain power you need to be comfortable with Labour making the flag its own.
This shouldn't be controversial. It represents the country you aspire to govern.
If you hate it, and the flag that represents it, then why would voters trust you to govern it?
I don't hate it. It can flutter in the background occasionally. I certainly don't want to see a different country's flag instead. But I do not want to see Starmer wrapping himself in it. And I am not alone. Labour need me and ilk as well as the Red Wall.
Less flags, not more.
We don't need a large Union Jack, sagging limply in the background, to improve our attention.
And there is no way SKS can beat Boris in flag envy.
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
Really? If you say so.
The duct tape on the floor across the parquet and carpet is an extra classy touch...
Difference is unlike Starmer and Johnson she is a real politician and has something valid to say , is not a dithering useless idiot like the other two. Still as the resident Scotland hater you could not help yourself.
No matter how often you say it does not mean SNP = Scotland
“Liverpool are starting an outfield of three forwards, four attacking midfielders, two attack-minded fullbacks, and one holding midfielder,” notes Paul Done. “Heavy metal football has returned.”
Have the Liverpool coaching team been listening to the KLF releases? The KLF/Extreme Noise Terror rendition of 3am Eternal is Heavy Metal something
On BBC News the other day, one of the headlines was that The KLF had finally let their music available on Spotify. I thought it was probably the least important news I had ever heard on the Beeb - I doubt many people I know could name 3 of their songs, and they were about in our pomp! Weird
“Liverpool are starting an outfield of three forwards, four attacking midfielders, two attack-minded fullbacks, and one holding midfielder,” notes Paul Done. “Heavy metal football has returned.”
Have the Liverpool coaching team been listening to the KLF releases? The KLF/Extreme Noise Terror rendition of 3am Eternal is Heavy Metal something
Maybe, it was a line Klopp used years ago when he was Borussia Dortmund manager and he took on Wenger's Arsenal.
“[Arsene Wenger] likes having the ball, playing football, passes. It’s like an orchestra, but it is a silent song. I like heavy metal more. I always want it loud.”
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
Really? If you say so.
The duct tape on the floor across the parquet and carpet is an extra classy touch...
Difference is unlike Starmer and Johnson she is a real politician and has something valid to say , is not a dithering useless idiot like the other two. Still as the resident Scotland hater you could not help yourself.
Oh, so it's okay to have a flag behind them if you agree with that they are saying?
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
Well, it works OK for the SNP.
FFS you idiot, when have you ever seen anyone say Sturgeon is great because she had a flag behind her. Scots do not slaver and salivate and think must vote for her she has a flag behind her.
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
Really? If you say so.
The duct tape on the floor across the parquet and carpet is an extra classy touch...
I know from experience that those laying temporary cables won't take any shit from anyone, of any level, about leaving them free to be tripped over, no matter the floor surface or decor.
Bonus points when it is yellow and black hazard tape.
For well I know that all of you are sickened, and yet for all your sickness there's none of you so sick as I. For your suffering comes upon each one of you as individuals, to no other, but my souls groans for the city, for myself, and for you together. So it not from the repose of sleep that you awaken me; Know instead that many are the tears that I have wept, many the paths I've trodden in my mind's wanderings. And the only cure that I could find after deep consideration, that I have carried out.
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
I don't really get this patriotism stuff at all. You want politicians you can trust not to defecate on the Cenotaph or sell secrets to Russia (Corbyn fell down on both counts) but beyond that, eeeuw. Most people love their mothers, but don't go around advertising the fact or claiming it as a key driver of their choices. The concept of loving one's country is to me intuitively much harder to grasp, and to be treated with at least equal reticence.
Hard to believe how easy they are taken in with a flag, extremely pathetic.
“Liverpool are starting an outfield of three forwards, four attacking midfielders, two attack-minded fullbacks, and one holding midfielder,” notes Paul Done. “Heavy metal football has returned.”
Have the Liverpool coaching team been listening to the KLF releases? The KLF/Extreme Noise Terror rendition of 3am Eternal is Heavy Metal something
On BBC News the other day, one of the headlines was that The KLF had finally let their music available on Spotify. I thought it was probably the least important news I had ever heard on the Beeb - I doubt many people I know could name 3 of their songs, and they were about in our pomp! Weird
I noticed that too.
Is it just me that thinks the singer in 3 a.m. eternal is Claudia Webbe?
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
Really? If you say so.
The duct tape on the floor across the parquet and carpet is an extra classy touch...
Smart. Tripping over a cable walking on or off would be the dumb bit.
28/12-03/01 : +500,000 : 1,400,000 : 300k 04/01-10/01 : +1,200,000 : 2.6 million : 900k 11/01-17/01 : +1,500,000 : 4.1 million : 1.4 million 18/01-24/01 : +1,800,000 : 5.9 million : 2.6 million 25/01-31/01 : +2,100,000 : 7.0 million : 4.1 million
01/02-07/02 : +2,250,000 : 9.25 million : 5.9 million 08/02-14/02 : +2,400,000 : 11.65 million : 7.0 million 15/02-21/02 : +2,550,000 : 14.2 million : 9.25 million 22/02-28/02 : +2,700,000 : 16.9 million : 11.65 million
01/03-07/03 : +2,850,000 : 19.75 million : 14.2 million 08/03-14/03 : +3,000,000 : 22.75 million : 16.9 million
Restrictions reduced to Level 3 at most
15/03-21/03 : +3,00,000 : 25.75 million : 19.75 million 22/03-28/03 : +3,00,000 : 28.75 million : 22.75 million
At this point, the second jabs have to be given. The new first jabs are therefore the total (levelling at 3.3 million) minus the number of second jabs needed.
29/03-04/04 : +1.8 million : 30.55 million : 25.75 million Restrictions lifted to Tier 2 maximum
05/04-11/04 : +1.5 million : 33.05 million : 28.75 million 12/04-18/04 : +1.2 million : 34.25 million : 30.55 million 19/04-25/04 : +0.9 million : 35.15 million : 33.05 million 26/04-02/05 : +0.75 million : 35.9 million : 34.25 million Restrictions lifted to Tier 1 maximum
03/05-09/05 : +0.6 million : 36.5 million : 35.15 million 10/05-16/05 : +0.45 million : 36.95 million : 35.9 million 17/05-23/05 : +0.3 million : 37.25 million : 36.5 million 24/05-30/05 : +0.15 million : 37.4 million : 36.95 million 31/05-06/06 : +0.0 million : 37.4 million : 37.25 million (All doses given this week are second doses) 07/06-13/06 : +0.0 million : 37.4 million : 37.4 million 14/06-20/06 : +0.0 million 21/06-27/06 : +1.2 million : 38.6 million : 37.4 million 28/06-04/07 : +1.5 million : 40.1 million : 37.4 million 05/07-11/07 : +1.8 million : 41.9 million : 38.6 million 12/07-18/07 : +2.1 million : 44 million : 40.1 million 19/07-25/07 : +2.25 million : 46.25 million : 41.9 million 26/07-01/08 : +2.4 million : 48.65 million : 44 million Herd immunity achieved. All restrictions lifted.
02/08-08/08 : +2.55 million : 51.2 million : 46.25 million ... and that’s almost it, I think.
Watching Channel 4 News. Can't help feeling we are back to square one. They've just had a guest on from UCL - the proposed March style lockdown is not enough. The vaccines we have will stop THIS virus if we get it into people's arms now. But 2m jabs a week takes a full year to get all adults. Unless we get everyone the risk is this mutates to a form that gets around the vaccine and thus we start again.
So we need the following: 1. A full lockdown 2. Shut the borders so we stop letting it/other variants in 3. A war footing to get 3 or 4 million jabs a week done.
We won't get any of those. So we're proper fucked.
As I said earlier, to enormous ridicule and scorn, the seeds for post vaccination lockdowns are already being sown. Now you can see it for yourself.
We are never getting out. Ever.
The idea that these vaccines will set us free is flawed.
Allow me to add to the earlier ridicule and scorn: you are being completely ridiculous.
No government and no population would promote, or stand for, endless lockdowns.
If there's a vaccine in the offing (and there are numerous) then it's clearly worth containing the virus until people can be vaccinated. If there was no possibility of a vaccine, other strategies (better treatments, herd immunity) would be pursued; the same would apply in the extremely unlikely event that the virus can mutate and resist vaccines faster than we can develop them.
You seem to think that lockdowns are being used as some sinsister form of population control by the government. But they are not, they really aren't.
I'm still none the wiser what the sinister motivation is, or why lockdown is seen by some controlling force as a desirable end in itself.
I find this "assigning sinister motives to others" to be extremely odd.
Does @contrarian have a secret desire to oppress the population, and he's projecting?
Take a wild guess which one was arrested for breaching Covid rules
Wasn't hers the most egregious, going on a PR visit to a police station after having her positive test results?
Charles flying a whole troop of infected people to Scotland in various modes of travel and putting them up in local villages and infecting many was less egregious you say, hmmmmmm.
Only the most incompetent of incompetents gets told by the scientists to shut the schools before Christmas and still manages to let them reopen for a day
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
I don't really get this patriotism stuff at all. You want politicians you can trust not to defecate on the Cenotaph or sell secrets to Russia (Corbyn fell down on both counts) but beyond that, eeeuw. Most people love their mothers, but don't go around advertising the fact or claiming it as a key driver of their choices. The concept of loving one's country is to me intuitively much harder to grasp, and to be treated with at least equal reticence.
Horrible to see someone faking it this way.
Although I think mass immigration is a bad idea, I wouldn't say I was patriotic or proud to be English, even less that British is best or any such nonsense. Cringe tastic really. Maybe he always has a Union Jack in his office like that, I wouldn't know, but it seems so obviously staged,
Not as fake as "Boris" with his ubiquitous UJ backdrop for the Thin Deal. You didn't know where to look.
Didnt see it, but he was representing the UK, so I think it is ok for a PM - they all do it, the flag is probably at every offical residence before they take office. Opposition party leaders have to choose to be seen with it, to show they are something or the other
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
I don't really get this patriotism stuff at all. You want politicians you can trust not to defecate on the Cenotaph or sell secrets to Russia (Corbyn fell down on both counts) but beyond that, eeeuw. Most people love their mothers, but don't go around advertising the fact or claiming it as a key driver of their choices. The concept of loving one's country is to me intuitively much harder to grasp, and to be treated with at least equal reticence.
Hard to believe how easy they are taken in with a flag, extremely pathetic.
Starmer's flag-waving is just a cringe-worthy attempt to undo the damage from the equally cringe-worthy "Sir Kneel" photo that was his original and defining mis-step.
Take a wild guess which one was arrested for breaching Covid rules
Wasn't hers the most egregious, going on a PR visit to a police station after having her positive test results?
Charles flying a whole troop of infected people to Scotland in various modes of travel and putting them up in local villages and infecting many was less egregious you say, hmmmmmm.
I've not seen anything on this? You sure this isn't just more twitter bollocks?
“Liverpool are starting an outfield of three forwards, four attacking midfielders, two attack-minded fullbacks, and one holding midfielder,” notes Paul Done. “Heavy metal football has returned.”
Have the Liverpool coaching team been listening to the KLF releases? The KLF/Extreme Noise Terror rendition of 3am Eternal is Heavy Metal something
On BBC News the other day, one of the headlines was that The KLF had finally let their music available on Spotify. I thought it was probably the least important news I had ever heard on the Beeb - I doubt many people I know could name 3 of their songs, and they were about in our pomp! Weird
I noticed that too.
Is it just me that thinks the singer in 3 a.m. eternal is Claudia Webbe?
Glad someone else did .I consider myself a music anorak, I worked in a record shop in the early 90s, and I think I could name 2 of their songs. Mentioned it to my missus and she'd never heard of them!
Amidst announcing a new national lockdown Boris offers some encouragement saying all those over 70 or extremely vulnerable should be offered a vaccine by the end of Feburary.
Boris aims to start to move out of lockdown and downgrade the tiers by the end of February too
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
Really? If you say so.
The duct tape on the floor across the parquet and carpet is an extra classy touch...
I know from experience that those laying temporary cables won't take any shit from anyone, of any level, about leaving them free to be tripped over, no matter the floor surface or decor.
Bonus points when it is yellow and black hazard tape.
which would be SNP colours..
Ah, wasn't permitted for an official FM communication then I suppose.
Only the most incompetent of incompetents gets told by the scientists to shut the schools before Christmas and still manages to let them reopen for a day
You are referring to Mark Drakeford here in Wales are you
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
The *only* thing he got right in that interview was the flag. hand-wringing wishy and indeed washy. Mrs RP (a Labour councillor until last May): "GROW A FUCKING BACKBONE MAN!"
It doesn't matter. No-one will watch the interview or hear what he has to say.
They will notice the flag. But only if it's consistent and part of a trend (Starmer has a habit of one-offs).
Only mentally deficient halfwitted cretins will be happy with a clown with a flag behind him............ oooh wait it worked for the last one
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
Just wait until he goes for phase 3 - tattooing the flag across his face.
I like to think politicians have special suits which include collapsable poles which erect a flaf 4ft behind them and 2ft to the left.
Thus must explain why Boris keeps having at least 4 flags behind him - escalation.
The flags behind the Brexit deal photo op did look particularly ridiculous - a bit three or four thickly draped together in a way previous British governments would have considered tasteless ; somehow reminiscent of the way the paint-em-on, super-profusion of christmas iights on shops that are now popular used to be considered tasteless.
It's the four identical flags so close together that gets me. If you're going to have at least four behind you, why not go all out and have ones for each Home nation, and a Union one?
Can't win. If they are all opn the level, you piss off some voters. If the Union Flag is higher or lower, you piss off a different lot.
Alright, just one flag, but it's a fusion of the home nation flags in some way...wait.
Still think the Union would be safe if this was the flag - would even the Scots want to leave a nation this badass?
YES, it is just a butchers apron in disguise.
Not swayed by a dragon in the centre? There's no helping some people.
I would keep that and the Saltire and get rid of the rest of the rubbish
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
I don't really get this patriotism stuff at all. You want politicians you can trust not to defecate on the Cenotaph or sell secrets to Russia (Corbyn fell down on both counts) but beyond that, eeeuw. Most people love their mothers, but don't go around advertising the fact or claiming it as a key driver of their choices. The concept of loving one's country is to me intuitively much harder to grasp, and to be treated with at least equal reticence.
Hard to believe how easy they are taken in with a flag, extremely pathetic.
Starmer's flag-waving is just a cringe-worthy attempt to undo the damage from the equally cringe-worthy "Sir Kneel" photo that was his original and defining mis-step.
Thank goodness he didn't kneel on a flag, or goodness only knows what he'd do to overcorrect.
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
Really? If you say so.
The duct tape on the floor across the parquet and carpet is an extra classy touch...
Watching Channel 4 News. Can't help feeling we are back to square one. They've just had a guest on from UCL - the proposed March style lockdown is not enough. The vaccines we have will stop THIS virus if we get it into people's arms now. But 2m jabs a week takes a full year to get all adults. Unless we get everyone the risk is this mutates to a form that gets around the vaccine and thus we start again.
So we need the following: 1. A full lockdown 2. Shut the borders so we stop letting it/other variants in 3. A war footing to get 3 or 4 million jabs a week done.
We won't get any of those. So we're proper fucked.
As I said earlier, to enormous ridicule and scorn, the seeds for post vaccination lockdowns are already being sown. Now you can see it for yourself.
We are never getting out. Ever.
The idea that these vaccines will set us free is flawed.
Allow me to add to the earlier ridicule and scorn: you are being completely ridiculous.
No government and no population would promote, or stand for, endless lockdowns.
If there's a vaccine in the offing (and there are numerous) then it's clearly worth containing the virus until people can be vaccinated. If there was no possibility of a vaccine, other strategies (better treatments, herd immunity) would be pursued; the same would apply in the extremely unlikely event that the virus can mutate and resist vaccines faster than we can develop them.
You seem to think that lockdowns are being used as some sinsister form of population control by the government. But they are not, they really aren't.
I'm still none the wiser what the sinister motivation is, or why lockdown is seen by some controlling force as a desirable end in itself.
I find this "assigning sinister motives to others" to be extremely odd.
Does @contrarian have a secret desire to oppress the population, and he's projecting?
Replying to myself, it's worth noting that:
This isn't just the government in the UK having a sinister conspiracy to control their population, it's pretty much all governments. Including governments that previously had different policies.
Did the One World Government call up the Swedish government and say "You vill do as ve say! Implement ze lockdown or vace ze conzequenzes!"
Still no word on closing the borders. Other than that, pretty much all I was saying a few days ago.
It's because the One World Government who is orchestrating the whole CV19 and lockdown response to enslave the population need to get between their chalets in Verbier and their Chelsea mansions.
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I'm far from enraged but I'm not impressed. Hope it's a passing phase.
If you want to regain power you need to be comfortable with Labour making the flag its own.
This shouldn't be controversial. It represents the country you aspire to govern.
If you hate it, and the flag that represents it, then why would voters trust you to govern it?
I don't hate it. It can flutter in the background occasionally. I certainly don't want to see a different country's flag instead. But I do not want to see Starmer wrapping himself in it. And I am not alone. Labour need me and ilk as well as the Red Wall.
Frankly, where else will you go if Labour does become more overtly patriotic?
Green. But it is unlikely in a GE. Nevertheless I don't want to be taken for granted.
Amidst announcing a new national lockdown Boris offers some encouragement saying all those over 70 or extremely vulnerable should be offered a vaccine by the end of Feburary.
Boris aims to start to move out of lockdown and downgrade the tiers by the end of February too
It only involved 4 "ifs" from him though, so it's not exactly a racing cert.
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I commented on the flag when I heard his live broadcast on Sky
FFS , he is totally useless, and people in England immediately think he is good because he puts a flag behind himself. Is it any wonder the UK is F***ed , never mind that you are totally and utterly devoid of any ideas, you have a flag behind you.
Hmm, so I think that the vaccination "realistic" target (top 4 groups) is about 11.5 million by mid Feb. Not far off Andy Cooke's projection. As long as it continues to accelerate after that, it would be okay, but it needs to be faster in Feb and Mar for it to be safe to release restrictions within hospital capacity.
Doing things as simple as this - being interviewed with his country's flag behind him - is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.
The fact it's triggered unreconstructed metropolitan Lefties like Michael Crick - who thinks it's akin to a BNP rally if there's too many of them - being a clear sign of the problem:
I'm far from enraged but I'm not impressed. Hope it's a passing phase.
If you want to regain power you need to be comfortable with Labour making the flag its own.
This shouldn't be controversial. It represents the country you aspire to govern.
If you hate it, and the flag that represents it, then why would voters trust you to govern it?
I don't hate it. It can flutter in the background occasionally. I certainly don't want to see a different country's flag instead. But I do not want to see Starmer wrapping himself in it. And I am not alone. Labour need me and ilk as well as the Red Wall.
Frankly, where else will you go if Labour does become more overtly patriotic?
Green. But it is unlikely in a GE. Nevertheless I don't want to be taken for granted.
Exactly. Unlikely in a GE.
Would you rather be pure and unfettered by flags, or in power?
Its beyond irresponsible. All those people who hadn't seen each other over the holidays. Thrown back into school to spread the pox to each other. Only then do they decide to shut the schools. As with the Christmas amnesty it seems designed to do everything possible to kill people.
@viewcode Thank you for your message. I have responded. Appreciated.
I think I got myself into a bit of a pickle in the last thread. In trying to respond to a specific challenge and using simplistic responses for brevity I dug myself into a hole.
I don't think the EU is particularly democratic nor the UK as I would like to see either of them, but equally they are not totally undemocratic either. Both having different strengths and weaknesses.
All I wanted to do is point out that it is nonsense to categorize one as democratic and the other not. They have different systems with different strengths, but in particular different weaknesses.
I suspect @Richard_Tyndall we probably don't disagree much, but you responded to my simplistic response to a nonsense post (not yours) and I wouldn't disagree with any of your assertions in response to my posts which were made to make a simple point to just point out differences.
Made worse by the comment 'Yet more bollocks'. Don't mind being told I am talking bollocks. It was the 'yet more' that flabbergasted me as it was my first post so I was paranoid about what previous bollocks I posted?
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Bonus points when it is yellow and black hazard tape.
And I also disagree with Crick as it happens.
Politically naive AND administratively incompetent. What a combination.
Still as the resident Scotland hater you could not help yourself.
Anyone trying to score petty partisan points over this is silly.
https://twitter.com/Babble____/status/1346172488145895425?s=20
https://twitter.com/fmwales/status/1346183003689668614
Fortunately he is a master at waffling to fill the minutes before the clown’s inevitable late arrival.
εὖ γὰρ οἶδ' ὅτι
νοσεῖτε πάντες, καὶ νοσοῦντες ὡς ἐγὼ
οὐκ ἔστιν ὑμῶν ὅστις ἐξ ἴσου νοσεῖ.
Τὸ μὲν γὰρ ὑμῶν ἄλγος εἰς ἕν' ἔρχεται
μόνον καθ' αὑτόν, κοὐδέν' ἄλλον, ἡ δ' ἐμὴ
ψυχὴ πόλιν τε κἀμὲ καὶ σ' ὁμοῦ στένει.
Ὥστ' οὐχ ὕπνῳ γ' εὕδοντά μ' ἐξεγείρετε·
ἀλλ' ἴστε πολλὰ μέν με δακρύσαντα δή,
πολλὰς δ' ὁδοὺς ἐλθόντα φροντίδος πλάνοις·
ἣν δ' εὖ σκοπῶν εὕρισκον ἴασιν μόνην,
ταύτην ἔπραξα·
For well I know
that all of you are sickened, and yet for all your sickness
there's none of you so sick as I.
For your suffering comes upon each one of you
as individuals, to no other, but my
souls groans for the city, for myself, and for you together.
So it not from the repose of sleep that you awaken me;
Know instead that many are the tears that I have wept,
many the paths I've trodden in my mind's wanderings.
And the only cure that I could find after deep consideration,
that I have carried out.
It's no skin off my rosy nose if Labour keep losing elections.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0uouyO-whY
Is it just me that thinks the singer in 3 a.m. eternal is Claudia Webbe?
Schools close with remote learning from tomorrow. Exams to be postponed/alternative arrangements found.
Confesses to schools u-turn.
Alert level five.
Expects by mid-Feb all four top priority groups will have been offered the vaccine (down to age 70 plus care, NHS and medically vulnerable)
Hope to move out of lockdown cautiously after Feb half term
Follow new rules immediately, will be law on Wednesday
Especially cancelling exams.
(Assuming “Protected = Vaccinated two weeks earlier)
Week : Vaccines given : Vaccinated : Protected
14/12-20/12 : +300,000 : 300,000 : 0
21/12-27/12 : +600,000 : 900,000 : 0
28/12-03/01 : +500,000 : 1,400,000 : 300k
04/01-10/01 : +1,200,000 : 2.6 million : 900k
11/01-17/01 : +1,500,000 : 4.1 million : 1.4 million
18/01-24/01 : +1,800,000 : 5.9 million : 2.6 million
25/01-31/01 : +2,100,000 : 7.0 million : 4.1 million
01/02-07/02 : +2,250,000 : 9.25 million : 5.9 million
08/02-14/02 : +2,400,000 : 11.65 million : 7.0 million
15/02-21/02 : +2,550,000 : 14.2 million : 9.25 million
22/02-28/02 : +2,700,000 : 16.9 million : 11.65 million
01/03-07/03 : +2,850,000 : 19.75 million : 14.2 million
08/03-14/03 : +3,000,000 : 22.75 million : 16.9 million
Restrictions reduced to Level 3 at most
15/03-21/03 : +3,00,000 : 25.75 million : 19.75 million
22/03-28/03 : +3,00,000 : 28.75 million : 22.75 million
At this point, the second jabs have to be given. The new first jabs are therefore the total (levelling at 3.3 million) minus the number of second jabs needed.
29/03-04/04 : +1.8 million : 30.55 million : 25.75 million
Restrictions lifted to Tier 2 maximum
05/04-11/04 : +1.5 million : 33.05 million : 28.75 million
12/04-18/04 : +1.2 million : 34.25 million : 30.55 million
19/04-25/04 : +0.9 million : 35.15 million : 33.05 million
26/04-02/05 : +0.75 million : 35.9 million : 34.25 million
Restrictions lifted to Tier 1 maximum
03/05-09/05 : +0.6 million : 36.5 million : 35.15 million
10/05-16/05 : +0.45 million : 36.95 million : 35.9 million
17/05-23/05 : +0.3 million : 37.25 million : 36.5 million
24/05-30/05 : +0.15 million : 37.4 million : 36.95 million
31/05-06/06 : +0.0 million : 37.4 million : 37.25 million
(All doses given this week are second doses)
07/06-13/06 : +0.0 million : 37.4 million : 37.4 million
14/06-20/06 : +0.0 million
21/06-27/06 : +1.2 million : 38.6 million : 37.4 million
28/06-04/07 : +1.5 million : 40.1 million : 37.4 million
05/07-11/07 : +1.8 million : 41.9 million : 38.6 million
12/07-18/07 : +2.1 million : 44 million : 40.1 million
19/07-25/07 : +2.25 million : 46.25 million : 41.9 million
26/07-01/08 : +2.4 million : 48.65 million : 44 million
Herd immunity achieved. All restrictions lifted.
02/08-08/08 : +2.55 million : 51.2 million : 46.25 million
... and that’s almost it, I think.
Too optimistic? Too pessimistic?
Does @contrarian have a secret desire to oppress the population, and he's projecting?
Who wrote this rubbish?
So he is trying to offer optimism.
I wonder how many people will believe him after so many disasters.
Boris aims to start to move out of lockdown and downgrade the tiers by the end of February too
Too late as usual.
But FFS, why did he not take that call on the 29th December? Does he think it’s the work of five minutes to set good quality remote learning?
This isn't just the government in the UK having a sinister conspiracy to control their population, it's pretty much all governments. Including governments that previously had different policies.
Did the One World Government call up the Swedish government and say "You vill do as ve say! Implement ze lockdown or vace ze conzequenzes!"
Absolute triumph.
As happened in China, Hong Kong, New York, Australia, etc.
And then they'll get over it.
Everything this government does is too late.
--AS
Would you rather be pure and unfettered by flags, or in power?
You have no idea how happy my wife and I am right now.
We've just opened a bottle of wine.
Is he ever going to put the boot in?