@SamCoatesTimes: After third of results, SNP top in Scotland, Labour second; Conservatives third; Ukip fourth; Scottish Greens fifth, Liberal Democrats SIXTH
Con down only 3% in Newark & Sherwood but behind UKIP.
How does that area compare to Newark parliamentary seat?
UKIP probably did better in the Sherwood area which is a traditional Labour mining area, so the Tories were probably slightly ahead in Newark, but still all to play for in the by-election as long as UKIP weren't miles behind.
That UKIP have won Doncaster shows how significant their win in Newark is, in truth. It's a boost for them, but does anyone think EdM is at risk from a purple decapitation? No.
Has anyone heard of this Alternative in Germany? I have never heard of them. Where are they likely to sit in the Euro Parliament? Are they likely to form a group with UKIP? Are they more appropriate to sit with than the Front National?
They stood in national elections, winning 4.7%, lower than the 5% quota required. Other than being Eurosceptic, centre-right, fairly liberal (not been tested, of course). "It is anti-euro, but not anti-EU, and not against European unity" by choice. Wikipedia doesn't mention if their grouping has been decided, only that the Conservatives have courted them for the ECR.
The way I see it is that if Labour comes third in the Euros they'll be so demoralised that they won't bother to fight the Newark by-election properly, which will give UKIP a big boost.
LD have lost all their seats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need to wait for SE before we confirm that.
My expectation is 1-2 seats right now for them.
1-2 is essentially no less pathetic than getting none, it's sheer luck in holding on just enough despite such a plummenting total. On the other hand, if they do manage to hold onto one in the SW, as apparently looks unlikely, for the first time my vote in an election, in sympathy, may actually have had an impact given how tight the margins might be.
Has anyone heard of this Alternative in Germany? I have never heard of them. Where are they likely to sit in the Euro Parliament? Are they likely to form a group with UKIP? Are they more appropriate to sit with than the Front National?
I think the message is very american tonight throughout europe, europeans voted to return to the old EEC. It took 22 years to count the votes and the Maasticht treaty lost.
The way I see it is that if Labour comes third in the Euros they'll be so demoralised that they won't bother to fight the Newark by-election properly, which will give UKIP a big boost.
They should let UKIP have a free ride in Newark anyway. If UKIP can win there then all over the country UKIP leaning voters will see it need not be a wasted vote at a GE, and will be more likely to stick with UKIP, and that will hurt the Tories a lot more than Labour.
Someone keep a copy of the esteem publication Great Manchester News, published by the LD and full from start to finish about Chris Davies MEP saving fish, pubs, mountain rescue, the car industry and generaly being the best and greatest MEP in the world complete with a LD bar chart to prove it. I'm afraid we will never see it again.
Alas, most will have long since become bird-cage lining. What's the political souvenir value of things caked in budgerigar-shite?
The way I see it is that if Labour comes third in the Euros they'll be so demoralised that they won't bother to fight the Newark by-election properly, which will give UKIP a big boost.
The story of the evening is the rise of the far right and the threat of returning Europe to the politics of the 1930s.
Kipper apologists will claim the threat is mitigated in the UK: all they want to do is return us to the social values and demography of the 1950s.
Nope. Kippers will say you are a tw*t whose party has been hammered and who can now only fall back on smear as a last resort.
You lost. All your claims and smears about UKIP were ignored by the electorate and despite your best efforts UKIP have won handsomely.
Just as FN have won handsomely. Or Denmark's Peoples Party. Or Beppe Grillo's 5 Star party. Or Greece's Syriza and Golden Dawn parties.
Not one of the above parties, including UKIP, will ever form a national government.
You know that. I know that. Everyone knows that.
That is why the EP elections have become the Eurovision Comedian Competition.
Who cares who loses?
LOL. Love it. From claiming UKIP would not win, to smearing them desperately when it looked like they might, to finally claiming the elections are completely unimportant when they do.
You really have shown yourself to be a complete joke the last few weeks Avery.
Thanks for the replies earlier. Are the Alternative in France a different party or the same party?
It may be just as well that the EU Parliament is largely a waste of space. It looks like it might be ungovernable with all these new groups who are defined by being against things.
The way I see it is that if Labour comes third in the Euros they'll be so demoralised that they won't bother to fight the Newark by-election properly, which will give UKIP a big boost.
They should let UKIP have a free ride in Newark anyway. If UKIP can win there then all over the country UKIP leaning voters will see it need not be a wasted vote at a GE, and will be more likely to stick with UKIP, and that will hurt the Tories a lot more than Labour.
Hands-up who thinks the EU will listen to this verdict?
Well of course they'll listen to it. They just won't act on what is being said, because the problem is clearly people don't understand what is good for them, hence their little tantrum. The answer is clearly more Europe, when isn't it?
Has anyone heard of this Alternative in Germany? I have never heard of them. Where are they likely to sit in the Euro Parliament? Are they likely to form a group with UKIP? Are they more appropriate to sit with than the Front National?
The way I see it is that if Labour comes third in the Euros they'll be so demoralised that they won't bother to fight the Newark by-election properly, which will give UKIP a big boost.
They should let UKIP have a free ride in Newark anyway. If UKIP can win there then all over the country UKIP leaning voters will see it need not be a wasted vote at a GE, and will be more likely to stick with UKIP, and that will hurt the Tories a lot more than Labour.
Do you still believe that?
Why wouldn't I? UKIP taking sizable votes in the Labour heartlands will not cost Labour as many seats as UKIP taking masses of votes in the Shires will prevent the Tories from taking the LD seat numbers they need to retain a plurality.
It really does look as though the Lib-Dems might actually come behind the Greens, LOL!!!!!
Being "the Party of In" and advertising it too! No-one wants the EU so Nick Clegg can sod off with his lies and distortions to justify it. The Great British public, at best, tolerate it, with a good half wanting to ditch it all together. How I love democracy, and how the wisdom of crowds triumphs over the vested interests ultimately. Mssrs Clegg, Cameron and Miliband, you can fool some of the people all the time and all the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time and you've been found out tonight.
Britain First 37 British National Party 35 Conservative Party 679 Labour Party 466 Liberal Democrats 1825 NO2EU 14 Scottish Green Party 619 Scottish National Party (SNP) 872 UK Independence Party (UKIP) 618
Has anyone heard of this Alternative in Germany? I have never heard of them. Where are they likely to sit in the Euro Parliament? Are they likely to form a group with UKIP? Are they more appropriate to sit with than the Front National?
Hands-up who thinks the EU will listen to this verdict?
Well of course they'll listen to it. They just won't act on what is being said, because the problem is clearly people don't understand what is good for them, hence their little tantrum. The answer is clearly more Europe, when isn't it?
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We need to wait for SE before we confirm that.
My expectation is 1-2 seats right now for them.
If anyone can tell me how to change my twitter title without losing the account I'd be obliged! ;-) #we'renotgoingawayyouknow
UKIP 25
Con 20
Lab 20 (third in votes)
LD 0
Grn 2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27341876
I thought they sounded quite sensible.
General Election @UKELECTIONS2015 5m
129 COUNCILS COUNTED FOR EURO ELECTIONS #UKIP 29.2% #LABOUR 24.2% #CONSERVATIVES 23.4% #GREENS 7.8% #LIBDEMS 6.8% #SNP 2.6% #PLAID 1.6%
Not one of the above parties, including UKIP, will ever form a national government.
You know that. I know that. Everyone knows that.
That is why the EP elections have become the Eurovision Comedian Competition.
Who cares who loses?
Or if you don't want me to, I will Iron your stuff if you send it to me
If Dave Cameron can pull that out of the hat...
What's the political souvenir value of things caked in budgerigar-shite?
UKIP ahead in Thanet Euros with 45%...
Lerwick ?!?
4 weeks...you only lasted 4 weeks...you only lasted 4 weeks...
Across Wales Labour, UKIP + Tories look to have secured a seat each. Battle between Plaid and Labour 2nd for remaining seat in Brussels.
You really have shown yourself to be a complete joke the last few weeks Avery.
Registered Political Party Number of Votes
Britain First
211
British National Party
297
Conservative Party
10158
Green Party/Plaid Werdd
2389
Labour Party – Llafur
5221
Liberal Democrats
4865
NO2EU
98
Plaid Cymru – The Party of Wales
3719
Socialist Labour Party/Plaid Lafur Sosialaidd
174
The Socialist Party of Great Britain
48
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
10412
Go syrisa!
Any chance of UK results?
o_O
It may be just as well that the EU Parliament is largely a waste of space. It looks like it might be ungovernable with all these new groups who are defined by being against things.
Sad to see what happens to aged minds when paradigms shift.
North Lincolnshire - 36%.
18% seems not a bad score in Scotland, nowhere near as endangered as Pandas or Scottish football!
Seems Libdems may be sixth in Scotland...
We owe them a great debt.
Have opened a Penfold's St Henri Shiraz, 2004, one of the world's finest wines, to celebrate the electoral terror enveloping Brussels"
https://twitter.com/thomasknox
F** king get over it.
2nd time i've seen someone use a naughty word at an annoying mealy mouthed centrist on here today. Both justified.
Britain First 37
British National Party 35
Conservative Party 679
Labour Party 466
Liberal Democrats 1825
NO2EU 14
Scottish Green Party 619
Scottish National Party (SNP) 872
UK Independence Party (UKIP) 618
Um... not quite, Grant. Have a think.
If London is waiting for Tower Hamlets, well... could be in for quite a wait
Of course, in the UK, given Farage's moderation, it will be marching carpet slippers.
The rise of UKIP shows how European we are!