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Harriet doesn't sound convinced that Labour have beaten the Tories to 2nd.
Geez, could the unthinkable happen? A UKIP, Con, Lab 1 2 3?
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If we based any nationwide election on Oxford and Cambridge results then no one would have made a correct prediction since 1867.MikeSmithson said:If the Euro elections were confined to the two cities that compete in the Boat Race then Ukip would be nowhere.
Those 2 towns are not Britain, they are just a tiny part of it in votes.
This might explain why OGH was out of touch though with the euros.
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Con down only 3% in Newark & Sherwood but behind UKIP.
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Infuriated, the LibDems claimed that this showed the whole count was unsafe and proposed a total recount. The Returning Officer gently talked them out of it.Slackbladder said:
You cant help but smile...NickPalmer said:LibDems couldn't believe they were 5th and demanded that their and Green bundles were recounted. Result: 7 LibDem votes turned out to be UKIP...
Moral: "quit while you're behind".
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Yep we have both the se and sw, where labour will be nowhereAndyJS said:
We'll see about that. Labour could do very badly in places like Kent and Southampton.Pulpstar said:
Kellner reckons Labour are getting 2nd due to metropolitan strength.RodCrosby said:
Lab on 24.3% based on Sky's +/- ticker.Casino_Royale said:
Cheers Rod. So Labour around 24% nationally?RodCrosby said:
Tories were 12% ahead of Lab in 2009. Looks like 1% now after 2 results. Lab need a 6% con-Lab swing to beat the Tories.Casino_Royale said:
How do you calculate?RodCrosby said:Labour on the way to third place nationally after that result...
Sky have voteshare C -2.8, Lab 8.2.
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Evidence?SeanT said:
Our Genial Host looks like a total dork, and a loser. Sorry. But there it is. He just lacks judgement, and gets too emotional - like many - when it comes to UKIP.Speedy said:OGH has lost pride and money tonight.
However he is a big enough guy to admit the facts, when he gets it wrong.
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Stuart: I am feeling some SOLIDARITY with you tonight. I hope (if Scotland does become independent) that cross-border cooperation on the centre-right with your new party might be able to continue in some form.Stuart_Dickson said:
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Dimbleby goes for the "I'm not racist, but " line, comparing UKIP and FN, whilst "not conflating them in the slightest, but..."0
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Was OGH's tip about the by-election? I don't think the result of that follows at all.Slackbladder said:
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Carmarthen Journal @Carmjournal 52s
In Ceredigion Plaid top with 7,139, UKIP 4,138, Conservatives 2,698, LibDems 2,332, Labour 2,110, Greens 1,6460 -
Conservatives should still win Newark, but a big GOTV operation is needed there now.0
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Of course! We can sit in the same group in the European Parliament!Casino_Royale said:
Stuart: I am feeling some SOLIDARITY with you tonight. I hope (if Scotland does become independent) that cross-border cooperation on the centre-right with your new party might be able to continue in some form.Stuart_Dickson said:
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HAHAHAHAAHA. TODAY IS A GOOD DAY!0
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Ed Davey spinning about as effectively as a chunk of Aberdonian granite.0
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It was that labour was the value bet....Grandiose said:
Was OGH's tip about the by-election? I don't think the result of that follows at all.Slackbladder said:0 -
The disgusting Harman going on about cost of living, they still don't get it.0
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One wonders what it will take for Labour to make proper inroads to such areas again. The LDs are nowhere in practically every part of the country, but here in the SW the LDs are still easily preferred as Tory opposition than Labour, though it will be interesting to see if that has happened again.Slackbladder said:
Yep we have both the se and sw, where labour will be nowhereAndyJS said:
We'll see about that. Labour could do very badly in places like Kent and Southampton.Pulpstar said:
Kellner reckons Labour are getting 2nd due to metropolitan strength.RodCrosby said:
Lab on 24.3% based on Sky's +/- ticker.Casino_Royale said:
Cheers Rod. So Labour around 24% nationally?RodCrosby said:
Tories were 12% ahead of Lab in 2009. Looks like 1% now after 2 results. Lab need a 6% con-Lab swing to beat the Tories.Casino_Royale said:
How do you calculate?RodCrosby said:Labour on the way to third place nationally after that result...
Sky have voteshare C -2.8, Lab 8.2.
Not enough.
Con on 25.3%
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The story of the evening is the rise of the far right and the threat of returning Europe to the politics of the 1930s.
Kipper apologists will claim the threat is mitigated in the UK: all they want to do is return us to the social values and demography of the 1950s.
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Ed Davey: Strategy 'may not have worked yet'...0
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Cheeky!!! ;-)Stuart_Dickson said:
Of course! We can sit in the same group in the European Parliament!Casino_Royale said:
Stuart: I am feeling some SOLIDARITY with you tonight. I hope (if Scotland does become independent) that cross-border cooperation on the centre-right with your new party might be able to continue in some form.Stuart_Dickson said:0 -
Despite everything, I still think UKIP are heading for 15% and zero seats at GE2015.0
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Never thought id see Cons beat the :Lib Dems or even Labour heremarke09 said:Carmarthen Journal @Carmjournal 52s
In Ceredigion Plaid top with 7,139, UKIP 4,138, Conservatives 2,698, LibDems 2,332, Labour 2,110, Greens 1,6460 -
Harman looks a bit queasy. I reckon a disastrous Labour third place is on the cards.0
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Labour doing well in the cities, says Kellner.0
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The war is not developing to our advantage...Pulpstar said:Ed Davey: Strategy 'may not have worked yet'...
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Completely agree, but 15% is enough to torpedo any hopes for CameronAndyJS said:
Despite everything, I still think UKIP are heading for 15% and zero seats at GE2015.
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I'm in Oxford and although I don't know the full boundaries I'm surprised UKIP were "nowhere" - there are parts of Oxford of the Con/LD marginal type, and parts of the white-working class type, both of which might in their own way have contributed some. (UKIP nowhere with students of either Oxford or Oxford Brookes, though!)0
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Think I'm going to eye-up some constituency/GE2015 markets tomorrow, suspect UKIP backers are going to over-react and be over-optimistic.0
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He said bet Tory to win the euros.Stuart_Dickson said:
Evidence?SeanT said:
Our Genial Host looks like a total dork, and a loser. Sorry. But there it is. He just lacks judgement, and gets too emotional - like many - when it comes to UKIP.Speedy said:OGH has lost pride and money tonight.
However he is a big enough guy to admit the facts, when he gets it wrong.
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That is amusing.NickPalmer said:LibDems couldn't believe they were 5th and demanded that their and Green bundles were recounted. Result: 7 LibDem votes turned out to be UKIP...
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What chances labour doing a U-turn and giving a referendum now.SeanT said:What are the chances now of an EU in/out referendum in the next 5 years?
Significantly higher, I'd say. Indeed probable.
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Ed Davey: only a flesh wound.0
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Not only is tribal politics childish and depressing it can also ultimately be very costly.......Slackbladder said:
Ogh and dan hodges, both lose their judgement when it comes to ukipSeanT said:
Our Genial Host looks like a total dork, and a loser. Sorry. But there it is. He just lacks judgement, and gets too emotional - like many - when it comes to UKIP.Speedy said:OGH has lost pride and money tonight.
However he is a big enough guy to admit the facts, when he gets it wrong.0 -
ROFLMAO!AndyJS said:
That is amusing.NickPalmer said:LibDems couldn't believe they were 5th and demanded that their and Green bundles were recounted. Result: 7 LibDem votes turned out to be UKIP...
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Britain Elects 2014 @britainelects 23s
UKIP have beaten and won Doncaster over the Labour Party by under 1,000 votes.0 -
Reports that LDs are down in South West. I'll eat my hat if they don't win a seat in the SE.0
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Those seats were not quite as they seem. They were for all Ox-bridge graduates not the undergraduates actually at Ox-bridge at the time (don't forget the minimum voting age at the time was 21). I suspect that if we had them today they would be solidly Conservative (as they were from 1900-1950)- all those ex Ox-bridge City bankers and lawyers.AndyJS said:
Of course Oxford and Cambridge universities had their own MPs until 1950. Clement Atlee decided to get rid of them.MikeSmithson said:If the Euro elections were confined to the two cities that compete in the Boat Race then Ukip would be nowhere.
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I am on 15/1 on that triple at Ladbrokes, so I hope so.
Also with Ladbrokes it looks as if Labour are under Shadsys bar (26%), and AIFE are over it (1.5%).
Mike has put out some good tips, and the AIFE one was one of them.
Doom for my party, but a good night financially if these hold true.Fenster said:Harriet doesn't sound convinced that Labour have beaten the Tories to 2nd.
Geez, could the unthinkable happen? A UKIP, Con, Lab 1 2 3?0 -
Rumour that Lib Dems will lose SW MEP.
SE must be one...
Will they get London ?0 -
What's wrong with returning to the values of Churchill, Attlee, and Macmillan?AveryLP said:The story of the evening is the rise of the far right and the threat of returning Europe to the politics of the 1930s.
Kipper apologists will claim the threat is mitigated in the UK: all they want to do is return us to the social values and demography of the 1950s.
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I doubt it, but amusing that early North East results are now putting Labour on the back front early on count nightsStark_Dawning said:Harman looks a bit queasy. I reckon a disastrous Labour third place is on the cards.
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Europe's economy is in a worse state that the 1930's so that's natural.AveryLP said:The story of the evening is the rise of the far right and the threat of returning Europe to the politics of the 1930s.
Kipper apologists will claim the threat is mitigated in the UK: all they want to do is return us to the social values and demography of the 1950s.0 -
I voted UKIP in the Euro election.MikeSmithson said:If the Euro elections were confined to the two cities that compete in the Boat Race then Ukip would be nowhere.
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Quite right, Mr. O.. It will be back to political business as usual on Tuesday. A fun night but it will change next to nothing. We must also remember that OGH said that Thursday was a disaster for UKIP and their popular support has dropped massively.
I Disagree i think things will change because:-
1)There is nothing like an impending P45 to galvanise those with non-transferable skills.
2) Being Euro-sceptic is now no longer something to be embarrassed about. Q a long list of hitherto politico's, pundits and Celebs who will suddenly find their sceptic voice.
Things have changed.
Where it leads us is the more important question.0 -
The Swedes are perplexed how the UK can be the last state in Europe to report official results when the votes were cast 3 days ago. You can almost see them sneering.0
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Problem is, they have suffered like a dozen flesh wounds, and together they lead to not a mortal wound, but something they will never recover or walk properly again.Morris_Dancer said:Ed Davey: only a flesh wound.
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Nope. Kippers will say you are a tw*t whose party has been hammered and who can now only fall back on smear as a last resort.AveryLP said:The story of the evening is the rise of the far right and the threat of returning Europe to the politics of the 1930s.
Kipper apologists will claim the threat is mitigated in the UK: all they want to do is return us to the social values and demography of the 1950s.
You lost. All your claims and smears about UKIP were ignored by the electorate and despite your best efforts UKIP have won handsomely.0 -
Taxi for Miliband!!!marke09 said:Britain Elects 2014 @britainelects 23s
UKIP have beaten and won Doncaster over the Labour Party by under 1,000 votes.0 -
That Euro map graphic on the BBC coverage reminds me of some Alan Partridge style World Cup effort.0
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A sad and pathetic comment, your average UKIP supporter would give their lives to prevent the rise of National/European Socialism.AveryLP said:The story of the evening is the rise of the far right and the threat of returning Europe to the politics of the 1930s.
Kipper apologists will claim the threat is mitigated in the UK: all they want to do is return us to the social values and demography of the 1950s.
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Ok guys... Jura whisky or Arran whisky.. Which do i go for? (The arran is better in my opinion)0
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Was that irony or desperation?MikeSmithson said:If the Euro elections were confined to the two cities that compete in the Boat Race then Ukip would be nowhere.
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No problem in Newark.MikeL said:Con down only 3% in Newark & Sherwood but behind UKIP.
How does that area compare to Newark parliamentary seat?
Those who strayed with UKIP last Thursday will be nursing themselves on antibiotics for the next ten days.
Expect a chastened and repentant vote on June 5th.
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Quite so. How Tories (and Hodges) can think a Tory majority is probable is baffling with such figures - even with a 5-10% range as I suspect UKIP will get.elephant_man said:Completely agree, but 15% is enough to torpedo any hopes for Cameron
AndyJS said:Despite everything, I still think UKIP are heading for 15% and zero seats at GE2015.
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All those SW lib dem seats....Pulpstar said:Rumour that Lib Dems will lose SW MEP.
SE must be one...
Will they get London ?
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Oh dear, from an Ed perspective.marke09 said:Britain Elects 2014 @britainelects 23s
UKIP have beaten and won Doncaster over the Labour Party by under 1,000 votes.0 -
Creep.Stuart_Dickson said:The Swedes are perplexed how the UK can be the last state in Europe to report official results when the votes were cast 3 days ago. You can almost see them sneering.
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If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.MikeSmithson said:If the Euro elections were confined to the two cities that compete in the Boat Race then Ukip would be nowhere.
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The Farage has landed!!0
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Who would have thought Oxbridge types are so out of touch with the rest of the country? Maybe it's about time we get someone running the place who isn't part of that elitist network?RepublicanTory said:
Was that irony or desperation?MikeSmithson said:If the Euro elections were confined to the two cities that compete in the Boat Race then Ukip would be nowhere.
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BBC - Farage arriving at Southampton count amid media scrum.0
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Doncaster - where Ed Miliband has his Doncaster North constituency - goes purple: Ukip 24,240; Labour 23,743; Tories 9,747 and the LD 1,869.
Remember David Herdson's post a week or so back?0 -
Pure elitism.RepublicanTory said:
Was that irony or desperation?MikeSmithson said:If the Euro elections were confined to the two cities that compete in the Boat Race then Ukip would be nowhere.
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Looks like OGH is really babbling there. I hope that he can keep it all together tonight.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I voted UKIP in the Euro election.MikeSmithson said:If the Euro elections were confined to the two cities that compete in the Boat Race then Ukip would be nowhere.
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I bloody hope so - the one straw I'm clinging to for my Con bet there is the swing was +17% UKIP, -3% Con, which sees Con in comfortably.AveryLP said:
No problem in Newark.MikeL said:Con down only 3% in Newark & Sherwood but behind UKIP.
How does that area compare to Newark parliamentary seat?
Those who strayed with UKIP last Thursday will be nursing themselves on anti-biotics for the next ten days.
Expect a chastened and repentant vote on June 5th.0 -
Mr. kle4, I don't think a blue majority likely, but it (or a red one) depends on whether there's a difference between how likely a red or blue voter is to stick with UKIP or 'come home' for the General Election.0
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BBC picking up the Doncaster result0
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North East England interesting, Lib Dems and Tories lose their seats, Labour gain a second and UKIP get one0
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Hey foxy, can I PM you? Had a quick question on fentanyl market.foxinsoxuk said:No, probably because I work in Hospital not General Practice
Smarmeron said:@foxinsoxuk
Have you received your poster yet?
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/may/25/gps-mount-campaign-to-reverse-funding-cuts0 -
Kellner — UKIP to win seat in Scotland.0
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That would be fantastic news for us in Gib.Slackbladder said:
All those SW lib dem seats....Pulpstar said:Rumour that Lib Dems will lose SW MEP.
SE must be one...
Will they get London ?
Fingers crossed that Graham Watson has been sent packing.
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Jeremy Vine LOL - "The German results show a big reinforcement for Angela Merkel" (points to CDU -4)... "The left-wing party in greece getting hammered" (huge swing to Syriza). Embarrassing.0
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UKIP up enough to get a seat in Scotland!0
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Has anyone heard of this Alternative in Germany? I have never heard of them. Where are they likely to sit in the Euro Parliament? Are they likely to form a group with UKIP? Are they more appropriate to sit with than the Front National?0
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We can all laugh at the travails of the LibDems but there's a clear message here that goes beyond the shores of our little archipelago.
The Commission in particular, the Germans who drive its agenda, and conventional parties across the continent have got to realise that their vision of a federal Europe, driven by globalisation and raped by corporate entities is not washing with the people of Europe.0 -
Nothing. If it was still the 1940s-50s.Sean_F said:
What's wrong with returning to the values of Churchill, Attlee, and Macmillan?AveryLP said:The story of the evening is the rise of the far right and the threat of returning Europe to the politics of the 1930s.
Kipper apologists will claim the threat is mitigated in the UK: all they want to do is return us to the social values and demography of the 1950s.
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UKIP lead in Doncaster - poor Ed!0
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LD have lost all their seats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0
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Does your aunt sing and have a beard ?Sean_F said:
If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.MikeSmithson said:If the Euro elections were confined to the two cities that compete in the Boat Race then Ukip would be nowhere.
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Did they just say that Labour will come top in Scotland? I thought we were being told the SNP were getting 3 seats?0
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Just to show how bonkers this all is in Sutton where the LibDems stormed the council they have just come third behind UKIPS and the Tories..0
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Jinx @ 10.43pmSean_F said:
If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.MikeSmithson said:If the Euro elections were confined to the two cities that compete in the Boat Race then Ukip would be nowhere.
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Conservatives going into coalition with the LibDems, allowed UKIP to replace Labour as the official opposition.
Discuss.
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The lads will be along in a second to tell us that is GREAT news for the SNP...AndyJS said:Kellner — UKIP to win seat in Scotland.
@ScottishPol: If Ukip win a Scottish seat it will make SNP's decision to polarise poll into "Us v Ukip" look a very bad one
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Lab now 46,000 ahead of Con on BBC running total.0
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They're anti-Euro rather than anti-EU.DavidL said:Has anyone heard of this Alternative in Germany? I have never heard of them. Where are they likely to sit in the Euro Parliament? Are they likely to form a group with UKIP? Are they more appropriate to sit with than the Front National?
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@SamCoatesTimes: After third of results, SNP top in Scotland, Labour second; Conservatives third; Ukip fourth; Scottish Greens fifth, Liberal Democrats SIXTH0
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Someone keep a copy of the esteem publication Great Manchester News, published by the LD and full from start to finish about Chris Davies MEP saving fish, pubs, mountain rescue, the car industry and generaly being the best and greatest MEP in the world complete with a LD bar chart to prove it. I'm afraid we will never see it again.0
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Can Darling still shut the BeTory Together door on UKIP?AndyJS said:Kellner — UKIP to win seat in Scotland.
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Going for the Arran Whisky, with an Aramone cask finish... Its pretty much pink, and very tasty0
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No problem, though usual caveats.Charles said:
Hey foxy, can I PM you? Had a quick question on fentanyl market.foxinsoxuk said:No, probably because I work in Hospital not General Practice
Smarmeron said:@foxinsoxuk
Have you received your poster yet?
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Do we have the full Broxtowe figures?0
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Conwy
Registered Political Party Number of Votes
Britain First
241
British National Party
244
Conservative Party
7261
Green Party/Plaid Werdd
1059
Labour Party – Llafur
5011
Liberal Democrats
883
NO2EU
80
Plaid Cymru – The Party of Wales
4936
Socialist Labour Party/Plaid Lafur Sosialaidd
123
The Socialist Party of Great Britain
51
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
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@journodave: And now for the bi-annual moment where poll watchers are shocked to discover there are more than a few right wing Scots.0
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Risible! Like Kent and Southampton equate to LondonAndyJS said:
We'll see about that. Labour could do very badly in places like Kent and Southampton.Pulpstar said:
Kellner reckons Labour are getting 2nd due to metropolitan strength.RodCrosby said:
Lab on 24.3% based on Sky's +/- ticker.Casino_Royale said:
Cheers Rod. So Labour around 24% nationally?RodCrosby said:
Tories were 12% ahead of Lab in 2009. Looks like 1% now after 2 results. Lab need a 6% con-Lab swing to beat the Tories.Casino_Royale said:
How do you calculate?RodCrosby said:Labour on the way to third place nationally after that result...
Sky have voteshare C -2.8, Lab 8.2.
Not enough.
Con on 25.3% 0
