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  • ydoethur
    ydoethur Posts: 74,263
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Did someone just put 20,000 volts through Corbyn then? Or did someone put his batteries back in?

    Please! It’s volts across not through.
    Trust a physicist to switch the conversation.
  • viewcode
    viewcode Posts: 25,202
    kle4 said:

    Henrietta said:

    I haven't got TV and don't want to watch this anyway, so I'm following the comments here and at the BBC website. It seems to have been utterly boring so far. Has either of them done anything striking visually yet that pictures or clips of will get widely circulated?

    Visually striking? Expecting Corbyn to do a handstand?
    I am still waiting for the Walrus to fart in Boris's face.
  • speedy2
    speedy2 Posts: 981
    I've noticed that during the debates Boris needs a "shiny object" to focus his thoughts and his speech.
  • Henrietta
    Henrietta Posts: 136
    kle4 said:

    MaxPB said:

    kle4 said:

    Byronic said:

    kle4 said:

    Byronic said:

    kinabalu said:

    Corbyn so much more sincere and thoughtful than Johnson. Such a contrast.

    Corbyn just said his manifesto is "fully costed". And you allege he is sincere?!? lol
    He is much better at appearing sincere.
    He's better at appearing pious. And getting easy applause with virtuous piffle.
    It makes him good at appealing to a crowd.
    Winning over the audience won't help win the election though.
    No, I expect not. Corbyn has talents as a campaigner and even as a leader - not that it makes him a good leader given he always starts out so far behind, but he couldn't inspire devotion like he does without some talent - but short of major movement right away, it's hard to see how he can 'win', and that's a win by getting a hung parliament not actually winning.
    A lot of the "devotion" is tongue in cheek from those who respect him (as everyone on the left knows, he worked hard for decades as a campaigner without achieving high government or front-bench office), who dearly want a Labour government, and who know there is no alternative leader available.

    Those who say he has a "personality cult" haven't looked properly either at him or at personality cults.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    No obvious gaffe from Bozo, which is the only scoreboard that matters.

    No substitute for the proper grilling that he is hiding from.
  • Byronic
    Byronic Posts: 3,578
    edited December 2019
    Gallowgate said:

    Byronic said:

    Gallowgate said:

    Audience laughing at Boris.

    They weren't. Boris was being mildly humourous. They laughed with him
    No they weren't. Are you drunk?
    One G&T?!? No
  • MikeSmithson
    MikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.
  • ydoethur
    ydoethur Posts: 74,263
    speedy2 said:

    I've noticed that during the debates Boris needs a "shiny object" to focus his thoughts and his speech.

    Too much information...
  • Barnesian
    Barnesian Posts: 9,221
    ralphmalph said:

    Barnesian said:

    GideonWise said:

    Barnesian said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    I'm not watching this debate.

    Should I bother?

    Not really though Corbyn is smashing Johnson which is good to see
    I think I understand your model better now.
    My comment is irrelevant to my model which is politically neutral.
    My comment was prompted by the OTT comments about Johnson smashing Corbyn.
    Objectively I think Corbyn has the edge in a thoughtful less bouncy way than Johnson.
    I think Robinson is doing very well.
    There is one of these instant polls after this debate so humble pie will be eaten pretty quickly.
    Looking forward to it. Can't find where to bet on it.
  • Gallowgate
    Gallowgate Posts: 20,709
    Awful closing statement from them both.
  • Brom
    Brom Posts: 3,760
    Very pleased for my bets. No clangers from Boris and I reckon the snap poll will suggest he won that.
  • Fysics_Teacher
    Fysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Did someone just put 20,000 volts through Corbyn then? Or did someone put his batteries back in?

    Please! It’s volts across not through.
    I bow to your expertise, as ever.
    😀
  • nichomar
    nichomar Posts: 7,483
    Not watching the debate deliberately so I could gauge comments on here. Not sure I have seen an unbiased take on proceedings so far from anyone but some of you really do need to try and see the world through none polarized glasses as it really is not quite as black and white as you paint it. It also is not actually such an earth shattering event whoever wins given Corbyn can only win with support of other parties. Johnson will have a 60+ majority labour will be sub 200, the problem is we don’t have a clue how either of those parties are going to react over the next five years.
  • AramintaMoonbeamQC
    AramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,901
    MikeSmithson said:

    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.

    Pidders rampers standby.
  • Byronic
    Byronic Posts: 3,578
    A win for Boris. I wait to be disproved, humiliatingly, by the polls
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    That wasn’t too bad actually, Nick Robinson a much better moderator than expected.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    edited December 2019
    Boris says voters can choose another hung parliament and 2 more referendums with Corbyn and Sturgeon or get Brexit done with him and more money for the police, schools and hospitals as his closing line.
  • AramintaMoonbeamQC
    AramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,901
    Byronic said:

    A win for Boris. I wait to be disproved, humiliatingly, by the polls

    I am about to give my verdict to YouGov.
  • Big_G_NorthWales
    Big_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,238
    I am content with that and so should Boris be
  • welshowl
    welshowl Posts: 4,464
    Win for Nick ( Robinson ). Nil nil otherwise
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    Oh god Huw Edwards is doing election night.
  • ydoethur
    ydoethur Posts: 74,263
    MikeSmithson said:

    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.

    If this gibbering imbecile could win not one but two leadership contests, then I frankly expect the maddest, stupidest, most unlikely, incompetent and mendacious candidate to win.

    Lloyd Russell-Moyle, take a bow.
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,459
    Best of the debates by a mile.
  • Brom
    Brom Posts: 3,760
    nichomar said:

    Not watching the debate deliberately so I could gauge comments on here. Not sure I have seen an unbiased take on proceedings so far from anyone but some of you really do need to try and see the world through none polarized glasses as it really is not quite as black and white as you paint it. It also is not actually such an earth shattering event whoever wins given Corbyn can only win with support of other parties. Johnson will have a 60+ majority labour will be sub 200, the problem is we don’t have a clue how either of those parties are going to react over the next five years.

    Well the Lib Dem legend Mr Smithson suggests Corbyn didn’t have a gamechanger
  • NorthCadboll
    NorthCadboll Posts: 332
    Well there was no game changer in that last hour and my goodness Nick Robinson is badly missed. Head and shoulders above most of his peers in the political media.
  • twistedfirestopper3
    twistedfirestopper3 Posts: 2,641
    Byronic said:

    A win for Boris. I wait to be disproved, humiliatingly, by the polls

    I'd call it a score draw. No drama caused to either of them. Both teams will claim they won, though.
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327
    IanB2 said:

    Oh god Huw Edwards is doing election night.

    They should give it to Fiona Bruce.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Did someone just put 20,000 volts through Corbyn then? Or did someone put his batteries back in?

    Please! It’s volts across not through.
    I bow to your expertise, as ever.
    He can’t even spell!
  • AramintaMoonbeamQC
    AramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,901
    ydoethur said:

    MikeSmithson said:

    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.

    If this gibbering imbecile could win not one but two leadership contests, then I frankly expect the maddest, stupidest, most unlikely, incompetent and mendacious candidate to win.

    Lloyd Russell-Moyle, take a bow.
    An LRM-Burgon dream ticket.
  • Jason
    Jason Posts: 1,614
    twistedfirestopper3 said:

    No real gotcha moments so far. Something for both sides to cling on to.

    I would say taxing people more earning over £20,000 is a pretty big one.
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    I am 25 mins behind but Corbyn pissing it apart from one bloke keeps clapping everything Boris says.

    For christ sake throw him a fish
  • Byronic
    Byronic Posts: 3,578
    Sandpit said:

    That wasn’t too bad actually, Nick Robinson a much better moderator than expected.

    Yes, the best of the debates so far. Civil and enlightening, with some sharp moments

    These things are always frustratingly bitty, but that wasn't so bad.
  • Fysics_Teacher
    Fysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    ydoethur said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Did someone just put 20,000 volts through Corbyn then? Or did someone put his batteries back in?

    Please! It’s volts across not through.
    Trust a physicist to switch the conversation.
    Remember, resistance is voltage times current useless.
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    Betfair’s Con Maj price still firmly stuck at 1.4, but Lab Maj into 40 (from 46). NOM 3.8.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Interesting that Boris kept bringing up the question of exactly who would renegotiate for Labour with the EU.

    It's clearly been coming up in focus groups that people don't like any of the rest of the Labour front bench either.
  • paulyork64
    paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    i'll go 53-47 to boris in the yougov snap poll.
  • nichomar
    nichomar Posts: 7,483
    HYUFD said:

    Boris says voters can choose another hung parliament and 2 more referendums with Corbyn and Sturgeon or get Brexit done with him and more money for the police, schools and hospitals as his closing line.

    And you believe him? Ok we will see
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    rcs1000 said:

    Pretty clear to me that Swinson is the only winner here...

    (Ducks)

    It'd be nice to think so, but the LDs never seem to benefit from these two being crap.
  • ydoethur
    ydoethur Posts: 74,263
    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    ydoethur said:

    MikeSmithson said:

    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.

    If this gibbering imbecile could win not one but two leadership contests, then I frankly expect the maddest, stupidest, most unlikely, incompetent and mendacious candidate to win.

    Lloyd Russell-Moyle, take a bow.
    An LRM-Burgon dream ticket.
    Blimey.

    That would be a dream ticket for the Tories and Liberal Democrats.

    They wouldn’t - couldn’t - mustn’t...

    Could they?
  • speedy2
    speedy2 Posts: 981
    This debate was the best debate of this election.
    But I don't think it will change the outcome of who will win this election.
  • viewcode
    viewcode Posts: 25,202
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Did someone just put 20,000 volts through Corbyn then? Or did someone put his batteries back in?

    Please! It’s volts across not through.
    Excellent shot through their bows. I think you got your point through and achieved cutacross. ... :)
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    MikeSmithson said:

    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.

    My book on that is utter turd.
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,459
    Boris' closing statement was much the better of the two.
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    Boris winner overall, Corbyn missed a couple of good opportunities to make Boris squirm. He should've quoted Boris letterbox and bumboy remarks back at him, would've had a stronger impact. Don't think it will change much, but I did think it was a far better debate than the various 7 party ones we've seen. Fewer participants is better.
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    Boris random phrases and mainly lies

    Highest Corporation Taxes in Europe.

    Apart from of course France ........
  • ydoethur
    ydoethur Posts: 74,263
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    ydoethur said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Did someone just put 20,000 volts through Corbyn then? Or did someone put his batteries back in?

    Please! It’s volts across not through.
    Trust a physicist to switch the conversation.
    Remember, resistance is voltage times current useless.
    I’m positive you’re right.
  • Black_Rook
    Black_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    Reading the comments, it seems there is something for everyone.

    If the debate all ends in another score draw then that's the last potential banana skin dodged by Johnson before polling day. Although with the benefit of hindsight (i.e. seeing how the polls have behaved since Dissolution) it's possible that none of these set pieces has, or would've, made much difference in any event.

    Unless there's a black swan then, for us anoraks, the one big event remaining is presumably the revision of the MRP on Tuesday night?
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Sandpit said:

    Betfair’s Con Maj price still firmly stuck at 1.4, but Lab Maj into 40 (from 46). NOM 3.8.

    Fucking lol.

    Who is backing Labour majority at 40 now?!

    I'd remortgage my house to lay it if I could in time.
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    Sandpit said:

    Betfair’s Con Maj price still firmly stuck at 1.4, but Lab Maj into 40 (from 46). NOM 3.8.

    A massive change from an implied 2.1% chance to a 2.5% chance.

    Just huge movements on the exchanges.
  • ydoethur
    ydoethur Posts: 74,263
    edited December 2019
    Casino_Royale said:

    Sandpit said:

    Betfair’s Con Maj price still firmly stuck at 1.4, but Lab Maj into 40 (from 46). NOM 3.8.

    Fucking lol.

    Who is backing Labour majority at 40 now?!

    I'd remortgage my house to lay it if I could in time.
    Since you have a spare, that’s not such a risk for you as it would be for the rest of us.
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    Bitchy comment from Barry Gardiner to Raab in the reaction room "why are you sweating and I'm not" when Raab was saying why his guy had won
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327
    So, any polls tonight?
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,077
    ydoethur said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    ydoethur said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Did someone just put 20,000 volts through Corbyn then? Or did someone put his batteries back in?

    Please! It’s volts across not through.
    Trust a physicist to switch the conversation.
    Remember, resistance is voltage times current useless.
    I’m positive you’re right.
    Shocking!
  • AramintaMoonbeamQC
    AramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,901
    ydoethur said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    ydoethur said:

    MikeSmithson said:

    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.

    If this gibbering imbecile could win not one but two leadership contests, then I frankly expect the maddest, stupidest, most unlikely, incompetent and mendacious candidate to win.

    Lloyd Russell-Moyle, take a bow.
    An LRM-Burgon dream ticket.
    Blimey.

    That would be a dream ticket for the Tories and Liberal Democrats.

    They wouldn’t - couldn’t - mustn’t...

    Could they?
    Neither is a woman, so sadly this must remain a pipe dream.
  • Fysics_Teacher
    Fysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    Paristonda said:

    Bitchy comment from Barry Gardiner to Raab in the reaction room "why are you sweating and I'm not" when Raab was saying why his guy had won

    Was Barry Gardiner in the Falklands War?
  • ydoethur
    ydoethur Posts: 74,263
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    ydoethur said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    ydoethur said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Did someone just put 20,000 volts through Corbyn then? Or did someone put his batteries back in?

    Please! It’s volts across not through.
    Trust a physicist to switch the conversation.
    Remember, resistance is voltage times current useless.
    I’m positive you’re right.
    Shocking!
    I can’t downvote that but I’m still feeling negative.
  • SunnyJim
    SunnyJim Posts: 1,106
    Betfair markets barely shifted during the debate.

    A draw for Boris was a win there.

    Another hurdle cleared.
  • Henrietta
    Henrietta Posts: 136
    edited December 2019
    MaxPB said:

    kle4 said:

    Henrietta said:

    I haven't got TV and don't want to watch this anyway, so I'm following the comments here and at the BBC website. It seems to have been utterly boring so far. Has either of them done anything striking visually yet that pictures or clips of will get widely circulated?

    Visually striking? Expecting Corbyn to do a handstand?
    Jez may have mooned the crowd? 🤮
    Visual moves work, when they're done well. Netanyahu is a master of them. Everyone remembers his depiction of a bomb. Corbyn should have whipped out an elephant chart when Neil mentioned billionaires.

    Corbyn's team improved their understanding in between the Andrew Neil interview where he flopped about with sheaves of A4 and the press conference a few days later when he held them up properly against a red background and had uniformed nurses and medics hand out copies.
  • NorthCadboll
    NorthCadboll Posts: 332
    How appropriate Boris wins instant poll 52/48
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,077
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    ydoethur said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Did someone just put 20,000 volts through Corbyn then? Or did someone put his batteries back in?

    Please! It’s volts across not through.
    Trust a physicist to switch the conversation.
    Remember, resistance is voltage times current useless.
    Resistance is Futile!
  • GideonWise
    GideonWise Posts: 1,123
    Are YouGov using their panel tonight?
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    edited December 2019
    Casino_Royale said:

    Sandpit said:

    Betfair’s Con Maj price still firmly stuck at 1.4, but Lab Maj into 40 (from 46). NOM 3.8.

    Fucking lol.

    Who is backing Labour majority at 40 now?!

    I'd remortgage my house to lay it if I could in time.
    I’m up to £750 of the 1.4 (well, various prices between 1.38 and 1.41 over the past couple of days). Debating how much more to add, now the last set piece is over.

    I think tomorrow’s headlines are going to be the £20,000 figure from that debate, so Johnson didn’t mess up and there’s four days to go now.
  • RobinWiggs
    RobinWiggs Posts: 621
    ydoethur said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Did someone just put 20,000 volts through Corbyn then? Or did someone put his batteries back in?

    Please! It’s volts across not through.
    Trust a physicist to switch the conversation.
    It was an enlightening intervention.

  • MikeSmithson
    MikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Anybody betting on a LAB majority is barmy. Since losing Scotland at GE2015 the chances, even with a bright voter-friendly new leader, of LAB forming a majority government are miniscule.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    Casino_Royale said:

    MikeSmithson said:

    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.

    My book on that is utter turd.
    He can only lead one party at a time.
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,077
    MarqueeMark said:

    Best of the debates by a mile.

    Yeah, it was alright :lol:
  • funkhauser
    funkhauser Posts: 325
    paulyork64 said:

    i'll go 53-47 to boris in the yougov snap poll.

    Probably a score draw, but most importantly the two banana skins of the Trump visit & the final leaders debate have now happened without incident.
  • viewcode
    viewcode Posts: 25,202
    Casino_Royale said:

    Sandpit said:

    Betfair’s Con Maj price still firmly stuck at 1.4, but Lab Maj into 40 (from 46). NOM 3.8.

    Fucking lol.

    Who is backing Labour majority at 40 now?!

    I'd remortgage my house to lay it if I could in time.
    It's usually thought to be a bad idea to bet with borrowed money... :(
  • CorrectHorseBattery
    CorrectHorseBattery Posts: 21,436
    52/48
  • paulyork64
    paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    paulyork64 said:

    i'll go 53-47 to boris in the yougov snap poll.

    52-48. close. and where have i seen that before.
  • Wulfrun_Phil
    Wulfrun_Phil Posts: 4,784
    Sandpit said:

    That wasn’t too bad actually, Nick Robinson a much better moderator than expected.

    Yes, I thought Robinson did well. He pressed both of them to focus on specific points they would have preferred to avoid without stopping either of them getting across the points they wanted to.

    Probably a score draw overall, Johnson doing well initially on Brexit and surprisingly the NHS (i.e. the 4 day week point) but with Corbyn coming on stronger later in the debate.
  • Black_Rook
    Black_Rook Posts: 8,905
    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203065256249110528

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203065333545877504
  • Fysics_Teacher
    Fysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    ydoethur said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    ydoethur said:

    MikeSmithson said:

    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.

    If this gibbering imbecile could win not one but two leadership contests, then I frankly expect the maddest, stupidest, most unlikely, incompetent and mendacious candidate to win.

    Lloyd Russell-Moyle, take a bow.
    An LRM-Burgon dream ticket.
    Blimey.

    That would be a dream ticket for the Tories and Liberal Democrats.

    They wouldn’t - couldn’t - mustn’t...

    Could they?
    Neither is a woman, so sadly this must remain a pipe dream.
    Is that rule set in stone or just a universal assumption?
  • nichomar
    nichomar Posts: 7,483
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    Paristonda said:

    Bitchy comment from Barry Gardiner to Raab in the reaction room "why are you sweating and I'm not" when Raab was saying why his guy had won

    Was Barry Gardiner in the Falklands War?
    No but he may have been in the night club
  • Byronic
    Byronic Posts: 3,578
    CorrectHorseBattery said:

    52/48

    Hahahahaha

    A win is a win is a win. I was right. Boris won.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    CorrectHorseBattery said:

    52/48

    Well don't leave me in suspense - to who?!
  • speedy2
    speedy2 Posts: 981
    MikeSmithson said:

    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.

    This is the list of MP's who would probably win the leadership election, delete the centrists from it first:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Labour_Party_Members_of_Parliament_in_London

    Basically someone like George Galloway, but still in Labour.
  • Byronic
    Byronic Posts: 3,578
    kle4 said:

    CorrectHorseBattery said:

    52/48

    Well don't leave me in suspense - to who?!
    Boris
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,077
    IanB2 said:

    Oh god Huw Edwards is doing election night.

    SKY have Bercow!
  • Big_G_NorthWales
    Big_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,238
    On who performed best in the #BBCDebate:

    Boris Johnson: 52%
    Jeremy Corbyn: 48%

    via @YouGov
    Representative survey of viewers
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327
    Amazing split there.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    ydoethur said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    ydoethur said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    ydoethur said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Did someone just put 20,000 volts through Corbyn then? Or did someone put his batteries back in?

    Please! It’s volts across not through.
    Trust a physicist to switch the conversation.
    Remember, resistance is voltage times current useless.
    I’m positive you’re right.
    Shocking!
    I can’t downvote that but I’m still feeling negative.
    Please short circuit this conversation before someone blows a fuse.
  • AramintaMoonbeamQC
    AramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,901
    Black_Rook said:

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203065256249110528

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203065333545877504

    This country, FOREVER.
  • Jason
    Jason Posts: 1,614
    Boris won that debate comfortably IMO. His opening and closing debates were especially effective. All Corbyn did was reinforce his economic ignorance and his abdication of leadership over Brexit.

    It's killing Labour on the doorstep in the seats that matter - and there's nothing they can do about it.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    Black_Rook said:

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203065256249110528

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203065333545877504

    Serious question, why are people on twitter so pathetic? It's just a snap poll for christ's sake, why react so personally?
    https://twitter.com/DilksChris/status/1203065710542540800
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    Byronic said:

    CorrectHorseBattery said:

    52/48

    Hahahahaha

    A win is a win is a win. I was right. Boris won.
    Margin of error
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,459
    ydoethur said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    ydoethur said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

    Did someone just put 20,000 volts through Corbyn then? Or did someone put his batteries back in?

    Please! It’s volts across not through.
    Trust a physicist to switch the conversation.
    Remember, resistance is voltage times current useless.
    I’m positive you’re right.
    My lack of science knowledge means I'm 'ampered on this one....
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Corbyn the nice doddery old reverend you might ask round for tea (just stay off the subject of the Jews...), heart's in the right place. Maybe.

    Not a leader.
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,077
    Black_Rook said:

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203065256249110528

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203065333545877504

    We need a People's Vote! :lol:
  • ReggieCide
    ReggieCide Posts: 4,312
    GideonWise said:

    Are YouGov using their panel tonight?

    Is?
  • Byronic
    Byronic Posts: 3,578
    IanB2 said:

    Byronic said:

    CorrectHorseBattery said:

    52/48

    Hahahahaha

    A win is a win is a win. I was right. Boris won.
    Margin of error
    I was right. Boris won. Sorry.
  • ydoethur
    ydoethur Posts: 74,263
    MikeSmithson said:

    Anybody betting on a LAB majority is barmy. Since losing Scotland at GE2015 the chances, even with a bright voter-friendly new leader, of LAB forming a majority government are miniscule.

    Since they would have formed a government perfectly comfortably without Scotland in 2005 (which was after all the last election they won) I am not sure that that is true.

    I agree that it makes their task considerably harder, but that’s not the same thing.
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    speedy2 said:

    MikeSmithson said:

    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.

    This is the list of MP's who would probably win the leadership election, delete the centrists from it first:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Labour_Party_Members_of_Parliament_in_London

    Basically someone like George Galloway, but still in Labour.
    Salma Yaqoob?
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1203065126007558144

    Poll conducted by Peter Ian Staker.
  • kinabalu
    kinabalu Posts: 46,273
    MikeSmithson said:

    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.

    Hope Pidcock holds her seat. If not it will be like Take That without Robbie.
  • Brom
    Brom Posts: 3,760
    edited December 2019
    kle4 said:

    Black_Rook said:

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203065256249110528

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203065333545877504

    Serious question, why are people on twitter so pathetic? It's just a snap poll for christ's sake, why react so personally?
    https://twitter.com/DilksChris/status/1203065710542540800
    But is that a pro Boris lol or a pro Corbyn lol. Either way a shame Britain Elects is becoming more like Election Maps.

    Oh sorry slow me, it’s a referendum lol!
  • nico67
    nico67 Posts: 5,651
    edited December 2019
    A poor start from Corbyn . One can see how he would much rather have fought an election after Brexit.

    Got better towards the end . I thought his answers on security in light of the terrorist attack were quite good and measured.

    I thought overall Johnson did a bit better than I expected. Apparently YouGov are doing a snap debate poll. I expect Johnson to win that but am interested in seeing what the undecideds thought .


  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    speedy2 said:

    MikeSmithson said:

    A week tonight we are likely to be talking about a LAB leadership contest.

    This is the list of MP's who would probably win the leadership election, delete the centrists from it first:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Labour_Party_Members_of_Parliament_in_London

    Basically someone like George Galloway, but still in Labour.
    Diane Abbott?
  • nichomar
    nichomar Posts: 7,483
    when you have been in government 9 years there are not many things you can blame others for.
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