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..or if he'd liked FB pages sereotyping Jews, or sympathised with terrorist groups who want to wipe Israel from the map......oh wait a minute.0
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You can see why the Labour attack has shifted on to the LibDems in recent days.RobD said:0 -
Morning morning. She has to retain that seat first but if she does I think it's chocks away. Another leader from North London is the last thing we need IMO. Let's go for a vibrant young working class woman from the north. What a contrast with who the other lot are saddled with!camel said:Morning Kinabalu. I could have done with you late last night. I was making a stout defence of our Laura, but I was sadly alone. People think Labour's best chance for 2024 lies somewhere in your manor - well more round Islington and Camden.
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How can anyone listen to that and think he says 'colour'? Its clearly talent, utter wankery from channel 40
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Cheeky question, Mike, but I'd love your actual opinion:MikeSmithson said:Now 5m views
Which number will end up higher, the number of views on that video, or the number of Labour votes cast in this election?0 -
Yes, of course. He is lying. But that is what he does.Beibheirli_C said:
But Brexit will not make any difference except, perhaps, to cut down the immigration of white Europeans. India indicated a while back that any post-Brexit deals with them would require the relaxation of immigration controls. I cannot see that pleasing Leaverstan...SouthamObserver said:
What he says is that Brexit will allow us to have democratic control over the immigration of people of colour. Not of EU citizens, but people of colour. A fascinating insight into the fact Johnson knows what the real issue around immigration is.
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Flavible: Con maj 110.RobD said:
ElectoralCalculus: Con maj 48.0 -
I don't see a " number of views" figure when I go to watch it - what's it up to now?0
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If people want to make suggestions / colab, I am open to it.Andy_JS said:
You're taking over all my traditional jobs on election night, lol.FrancisUrquhart said:Wondering where will be the best place to scrape the results data live on the night? Now I have all the historic data, thinking of making a live automatic updated version so we can see as fast as possible the Tories really are making the progress they need or no.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vG1Tnuvo78MikeSmithson said:Now 5m views
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It. Is. Talent.
Colourgate over before it begun. It would have been such a strange thing to have said (colour).0 -
He said ‘people of talent’SouthamObserver said:
Yes, of course. He is lying. But that is what he does.Beibheirli_C said:
But Brexit will not make any difference except, perhaps, to cut down the immigration of white Europeans. India indicated a while back that any post-Brexit deals with them would require the relaxation of immigration controls. I cannot see that pleasing Leaverstan...SouthamObserver said:
What he says is that Brexit will allow us to have democratic control over the immigration of people of colour. Not of EU citizens, but people of colour. A fascinating insight into the fact Johnson knows what the real issue around immigration is.0 -
He is just telling another lie about immigration. The term he uses is neither here nor there.BluerBlue said:
People Of Colour (or POC) is actually the currently correct and woke term in US politics and thus in internet-speak and amongst youngsters globally!Alanbrooke said:
Cant see the issue personally, BoJo was talking to Justin Trudeau earlier this week quite happily and he's a sometime person of colour.SouthamObserver said:
He literally says "people of colour".isam said:
I don’t think so.SouthamObserver said:
Yes, he does.isam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
https://twitter.com/MayaGoodfellow/status/1202902195047403520
Be careful, you have jumped to incorrect conclusions before on things like this that you are prejudiced on, the Sun blacking up Gina Miller for instance, and you admit you see everything Boris does through the prism of thinking the worst
Boris is in fact being of-the-moment PC here.
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I don't think the Tories will be unhappy if this causes a stir.TOPPING said:It. Is. Talent.
Colourgate over before it begun. It would have been such a strange thing to have said (colour).1 -
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It's even more *cringe* than that. In America the term has been widely extended, so you can have "actors of color", "builders of color", "chemists of color", "painters of color". "pirates of color", and "dentists of color". And "lesbians of color".Stocky said:
Neither would I - it`s cringeworthy.Andy_JS said:
I would never use it because it's ridiculous to refer to people as a colour.MaxPB said:
I think it's an accepted term now, at least I've heard white liberals use "person of colour" fairly regularly.isam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
https://twitter.com/MayaGoodfellow/status/1202902195047403520
https://dentistry.vcu.edu/alumni/support/the-first-100-dentists-of-color/
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No, it isn't: the current PC term is "People of Colour". AOC and the Justice Democrats in the US are contractually-obliged to use the phrase several times a day.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Referring to people of colour specifically is dog whistle racism yes. Imagine if Corbyn has said the same about Jews.RobD said:
Was Johnson’s answer racist? Welcoming immigration but in a controlled manner seems sensibleCorrectHorseBattery said:I wonder if Tories here would allow Corbyn to get out of racism by using the clumsy language defence. Don’t really need to ask, we know the answer
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Just listened, its 100% talent. Sounds nothing like colour! It's not exactly Yanni or Laurel is it!wooliedyed said:How can anyone listen to that and think he says 'colour'? Its clearly talent, utter wankery from channel 4
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Channel 4 delete the video their slur havung been exposed. Wankers.0
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Probably right but I hold the minority opinion that he will end up extending the Transition and doing a closely aligned trade deal with the EU. A 'soft brexit'. Just for the simple reason that anything else is plain dumb.eek said:He isn't...
He doesn't want a good trade deal - he wants his name on the list of people who are prime minster.
And to do that and stay there he needs to leave the EU and sign up for whatever deal he can get that allows us to have a trade deal by 31st December 2020.
Oh and because it's a crap trade deal he will be able to blame the EU for the years he is in power.0 -
Its London and the south. Exactly the wrong places for themFrancisUrquhart said:What we need is more info of where the Labour uptick is coming from. Is it London, is it the Midlands and North.
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He claims he said person of talent.0
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Deja vu all over again. Look before you leap J-DubzSouthamObserver said:
He is just telling another lie about immigration. The term he uses is neither here nor there.BluerBlue said:
People Of Colour (or POC) is actually the currently correct and woke term in US politics and thus in internet-speak and amongst youngsters globally!Alanbrooke said:
Cant see the issue personally, BoJo was talking to Justin Trudeau earlier this week quite happily and he's a sometime person of colour.SouthamObserver said:
He literally says "people of colour".isam said:
I don’t think so.SouthamObserver said:
Yes, he does.isam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
https://twitter.com/MayaGoodfellow/status/1202902195047403520
Be careful, you have jumped to incorrect conclusions before on things like this that you are prejudiced on, the Sun blacking up Gina Miller for instance, and you admit you see everything Boris does through the prism of thinking the worst
Boris is in fact being of-the-moment PC here.1 -
Fair enough I’ll hold my hands up that I’ve got it wrong4
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AOC is also contracted to slip into an accent of color to subtract credence from her arguments and make her look ridiculousBluerBlue said:
No, it isn't: the current PC term is "People of Colour". AOC and the Justice Democrats in the US are contractually-obliged to use the phrase several times a day.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Referring to people of colour specifically is dog whistle racism yes. Imagine if Corbyn has said the same about Jews.RobD said:
Was Johnson’s answer racist? Welcoming immigration but in a controlled manner seems sensibleCorrectHorseBattery said:I wonder if Tories here would allow Corbyn to get out of racism by using the clumsy language defence. Don’t really need to ask, we know the answer
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There probably really is albinos of colour. (I used to see quite a few albinos on Bioko Island in Equatorial Guinea - might have been an island genetics thing.)Byronic said:
It's even more *cringe* than that. In America the term has been widely extended, so you can have "actors of color", "builders of color", "chemists of color", "painters of color". "pirates of color", and "dentists of color". And "lesbians of color".Stocky said:
Neither would I - it`s cringeworthy.Andy_JS said:
I would never use it because it's ridiculous to refer to people as a colour.MaxPB said:
I think it's an accepted term now, at least I've heard white liberals use "person of colour" fairly regularly.isam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
https://twitter.com/MayaGoodfellow/status/1202902195047403520
https://dentistry.vcu.edu/alumni/support/the-first-100-dentists-of-color/0 -
He garbled it slightly, but that is clearly what he said - he was going through the standard riff, and that's exactly the standard line. The sentence would make no sense otherwise.CorrectHorseBattery said:He claims he said person of talent.
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Not impressing in Hartlepool, I gather. They call him the bumbling Tice.Big_G_NorthWales said:Probably. Richard Tice is their candidate
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They used to be Labours electorate. You were perfectly fine with them thenSouthamObserver said:
I imagine that in focus groups many of the big issues that come up around immigration are to do with people of colour - from the sub-Continent, Somalis, Romanies, sub-Saharan Africans, etc. It's not done to acknowledge this openly, so we talk more generally about controlling our borders. This is an instance in which Johnson has flicked through his briefing papers and only picked up half the message. But, again, it will not harm him because it merely reflects what his electorate thinks.Stocky said:
And a dog whistleSouthamObserver said:
What he says is that Brexit will allow us to have democratic control over the immigration of people of colour. Not of EU citizens, but people of colour. A fascinating insight into the fact Johnson knows what the real issue around immigration is.Stocky said:
Apparantly, the word police say it`s ok to say "people of colour" but one mustn`t say "coloured people".isam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
https://twitter.com/MayaGoodfellow/status/1202902195047403520
Go figure.
Why can`t we just see individuals as individuals?0 -
Wow, Just watched the video. He very very very obviously says "people of talent"
Anger and bias is turning sane, clever people like Southam into obsessive thickos, who hear what they want to hear. Truly strange.5 -
Boris derangement syndrome....Byronic said:Wow, Just watched the video. He very very very obviously says "people of talent"
Anger and bias is turning sane, clever people like Southam into obsessive thickos, who hear what they want to hear. Truly strange.1 -
Ahem.AlastairMeeks said:The Conservatives are going to have to think what to do about "democratically controlled people of colour" because it is already everywhere.
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Litigation on its way. Boris clearly says talent. Listen to the recording it is nothing like colourwooliedyed said:Channel 4 delete the video their slur havung been exposed. Wankers.
I think many on here need to be very careful in their comments on this1 -
Well they`re fucking mad over there aren`t theyByronic said:
It's even more *cringe* than that. In America the term has been widely extended, so you can have "actors of color", "builders of color", "chemists of color", "painters of color". "pirates of color", and "dentists of color". And "lesbians of color".Stocky said:
Neither would I - it`s cringeworthy.Andy_JS said:
I would never use it because it's ridiculous to refer to people as a colour.MaxPB said:
I think it's an accepted term now, at least I've heard white liberals use "person of colour" fairly regularly.isam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
https://twitter.com/MayaGoodfellow/status/1202902195047403520
https://dentistry.vcu.edu/alumni/support/the-first-100-dentists-of-color/0 -
BRX down from 3% to 2% overall could be significant because of its implications for the Conservatives chances of gaining seats, although the apparent difference of 1% could be a smaller change disguised by rounding. It amounts to a fall on average from 7% down to 4.6% in the 273 GB seats they are contesting, including all the key Labour marginals, implying that more of the Conservatives' national average of 44% is coming from those seats than hitherto. Even 2.49% would imply an average BXP share in contested seats of only 5.8%, although that would still be higher in Leave voting contested seats, to counter lower shares in other Remain voting seats.RobD said:0 -
No that's unfair, because the subtitles deceive your ear.Byronic said:Wow, Just watched the video. He very very very obviously says "people of talent"
Anger and bias is turning sane, clever people like Southam into obsessive thickos, who hear what they want to hear. Truly strange.3 -
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Funny how the word police appeals to the dim-wittedcamel said:0 -
One could argue that, once Brexit is 'done' (ie irrevocable), it might be in the interests of the SNP to support such a soft deal. Independence must be easier to argue for with an oven-ready soft border at Coldstream.kinabalu said:
Probably right but I hold the minority opinion that he will end up extending the Transition and doing a closely aligned trade deal with the EU. A 'soft brexit'. Just for the simple reason that anything else is plain dumb.eek said:He isn't...
He doesn't want a good trade deal - he wants his name on the list of people who are prime minster.
And to do that and stay there he needs to leave the EU and sign up for whatever deal he can get that allows us to have a trade deal by 31st December 2020.
Oh and because it's a crap trade deal he will be able to blame the EU for the years he is in power.0 -
Ch4 bias clearly on display. Threats to revoke their broadcasting license seem fair game3
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The denials in the replies are something!TrèsDifficile said:1 -
It was fake news?
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Even when warned, they can’t help themselves. All over it on social media tooByronic said:Wow, Just watched the video. He very very very obviously says "people of talent"
Anger and bias is turning sane, clever people like Southam into obsessive thickos, who hear what they want to hear. Truly strange.4 -
Yup, it gets the Andrew Neil spot off the agenda.FrancisUrquhart said:
I don't think the Tories will be unhappy if this causes a stir.TOPPING said:It. Is. Talent.
Colourgate over before it begun. It would have been such a strange thing to have said (colour).2 -
Its as if their presenters like to stand in fields shouting F##k The Tories....and the editors tweet all sort of negative stuff about them.TrèsDifficile said:twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1202913424243601408?s=20
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How long do you think Cummings and Johnson had to work on that so that he could say talent in a way that made it sound like he'd said colour?
And trick the automatic subtitles, too. Truly impressive work.0 -
Boris should sue the fuck out of Channel 4, and all the idiots on here who persuaded themselves he said something they so very very much WANTED him to say2
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You don’t, and Boris didn’t, sayTrèsDifficile said:0 -
Channel 4 have now deletedisam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
https://twitter.com/MayaGoodfellow/status/12029021950474035200 -
Anyone got OFCOM’s number? Asking for a friend.2
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*raises an eyebrow*
Sums up the quality of modern politics. And modern political journalism.2 -
Indeed. Relistening to it, it does sound like "talent". Having the subtitles with "people of colour" does not help. It primes you to hear what you have read.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Litigation on its way. Boris clearly says talent. Listen to the recording it is nothing like colourwooliedyed said:Channel 4 delete the video their slur havung been exposed. Wankers.
I think many on here need to be very careful in their comments on this1 -
Neither you nor I heard talent. But, yes, I need to be a lot more careful.isam said:
Deja vu all over again. Look before you leap J-DubzSouthamObserver said:
He is just telling another lie about immigration. The term he uses is neither here nor there.BluerBlue said:
People Of Colour (or POC) is actually the currently correct and woke term in US politics and thus in internet-speak and amongst youngsters globally!Alanbrooke said:
Cant see the issue personally, BoJo was talking to Justin Trudeau earlier this week quite happily and he's a sometime person of colour.SouthamObserver said:
He literally says "people of colour".isam said:
I don’t think so.SouthamObserver said:
Yes, he does.isam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
https://twitter.com/MayaGoodfellow/status/1202902195047403520
Be careful, you have jumped to incorrect conclusions before on things like this that you are prejudiced on, the Sun blacking up Gina Miller for instance, and you admit you see everything Boris does through the prism of thinking the worst
Boris is in fact being of-the-moment PC here.
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What? There is FOM for Asian/African countries for example?SouthamObserver said:
The flow of immigration is already skewed in favour of non-EU immigrants.felix said:
Not strange at all - one of the few pluses about Brexit is that it evens up the flow of immigration by removing the current advantages, via FOM, to largely white Europeans and any new system would potentially treat all immigrants the same.TrèsDifficile said:
He does, and it's very strange that he connects that to Brexit.isam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
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Absolute dead cat gift from Channel 4. They've even handed over a years supply of Whiskers.kjohnw1 said:
Channel 4 have now deletedisam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
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You were on the money. (Well, almost. He didn't stutter the "coming here" bit.) But I was definitely wrong, completely deceived by the subtitles.isam said:
You don’t, and Boris didn’t, sayTrèsDifficile said:1 -
If I was the Tories, I would blow this CH4 thing up as big as possible. Arrange a Press Conference ASAP, etc. It plays the narrative of Tories tough on immigration and media bias (even if both are bollocks).0
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No, EU immigration has fallen dramatically. Non-EU immigraiton is rising.felix said:
What? There is FOM for Asian/African countries for example?SouthamObserver said:
The flow of immigration is already skewed in favour of non-EU immigrants.felix said:
Not strange at all - one of the few pluses about Brexit is that it evens up the flow of immigration by removing the current advantages, via FOM, to largely white Europeans and any new system would potentially treat all immigrants the same.TrèsDifficile said:
He does, and it's very strange that he connects that to Brexit.isam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
https://twitter.com/MayaGoodfellow/status/1202902195047403520
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Statement from Channel 4
Boris Johnson says “people of talent” not “people of colour.”
Our earlier tweet was a mistake. We misheard and we apologise.0 -
Isn’t sloppiness so awful?! Accuracy is everythingSouthamObserver said:
I imagine that in focus groups many of the big issues that come up around immigration are to do with people of colour - from the sub-Continent, Somalis, Romanies, sub-Saharan Africans, etc. It's not done to acknowledge this openly, so we talk more generally about controlling our borders. This is an instance in which Johnson has flicked through his briefing papers and only picked up half the message. But, again, it will not harm him because it merely reflects what his electorate thinks.Stocky said:
And a dog whistleSouthamObserver said:
What he says is that Brexit will allow us to have democratic control over the immigration of people of colour. Not of EU citizens, but people of colour. A fascinating insight into the fact Johnson knows what the real issue around immigration is.Stocky said:
Apparantly, the word police say it`s ok to say "people of colour" but one mustn`t say "coloured people".isam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
https://twitter.com/MayaGoodfellow/status/1202902195047403520
Go figure.
Why can`t we just see individuals as individuals?1 -
Yes, they should sue. Channel 4 are clearly as biased and demented as the Boris-haters on here.FrancisUrquhart said:If I was the Tories, I would blow this CH4 thing up as big as possible. Arrange a Press Conference ASAP, etc. It plays the narrative of Tories tough on immigration and media bias (even if both are bollocks).
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Channel 4's desire to hurt Boris is painful to behold.wooliedyed said:Channel 4 delete the video their slur havung been exposed. Wankers.
They are going to get some visitors to their officers in early January....
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So people are now, clearly editing the clip to make him say 'of colour' too.
what a f-ing mess.1 -
Yes, that could happen. I'll believe it when I see it.Byronic said:
Look at it another way. Brexit has given WWC voters in the north a chance and an excuse to vote for the winning electoral side for the first time since Blair. Maybe since Thatcher or Wilson.northern_monkey said:HYUFD said:
'Of course, Boris reaches white working class Labour voters who have not voted Tory since Thatcher if ever in a way no other Tory leader would, much as Trump reaches white working class Democrats who have not voted Republican since Reagan'
My take on it is that WWC voters thing Boris is a fool. But he is a fool who will bring about Brexit. Which the bulk of the WWC (of which I am a part, by the way) think will ameliorate the impacts of deindustrialisation, chronic underinvestment in the north and austerity. They're probably going to be very disappointed.
If they win as expected, the new ruling Tory party will be changed: much more slanted to the north, and to the WWC.
So the north can seriously expect a better deal under Boris, as those new MPs clamour for their causes.
The WWC are therefore voting logically, and in their own self interest.0 -
I understand we might see an increase in tactical voting etc but I simply refuse to believe that the Tories need a 9% lead for a majority.rkrkrk said:Okay, time to cling desperately to straws. My highly unsophisticated model, which:
*ignore if not interested* just multiplies the vote for a party in all seats by the ratio of current national poll/2017 result, and then assumes 30% tactical voting from Lab -> LD and vice versa, and 10% from Brexit -> Tory....
*resume reading* reckons the Tories need a 9pt lead for the majority.
They could just miss it.
In fact I suspect that tactical voting has been a bit overplayed this time around. A number of people will vote tactically, as they do at every election, but there will always be a sizeable chunk who will vote for the party they want to, in spite of what Gina Miller’s website or a bar chart might tell them.
It seems to me that a lot of this is based on pollsters questions such as “will you vote in a way as to stop x from winning?” I am not really sure someone saying “yes” to that has necessarily weighed up the situation in their particular constituency.
In fact I suspect a lower turnout would actually hurt the Tories, as the more politically engaged (and therefore more likely to turn out) are also more likely to vote tactically to stop them.
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The thing is...do the people doing this think it will hurt him? It is the correct "woke" term to use, so not racist and erhhh well the demographic the Tories are targeting are some what concerned about immigration.Slackbladder said:So people are now, clearly editing the clip to make him say 'of colour' too.
what a f-ing mess.
Yeahhh this will f##k him right up....using the right on term to explain how the Tories will control immigration.0 -
Good for you - that's something Southam Observer will never doCorrectHorseBattery said:Fair enough I’ll hold my hands up that I’ve got it wrong
Edit: Sorry - he kinda did.0 -
Obviously an attempt at a gotcha moment backfired, Tories have fair claim to being mistreated by Channel 4 News in recent years.Big_G_NorthWales said:Statement from Channel 4
Boris Johnson says “people of talent” not “people of colour.”
Our earlier tweet was a mistake. We misheard and we apologise.0 -
Channel 4: fake news peddlers and enablers.Slackbladder said:So people are now, clearly editing the clip to make him say 'of colour' too.
what a f-ing mess. 1 -
It's very difficult to see how it could happen. The big money behind Boris is hedge funds, not unions.northern_monkey said:
Yes, that could happen. I'll believe it when I see it.Byronic said:
Look at it another way. Brexit has given WWC voters in the north a chance and an excuse to vote for the winning electoral side for the first time since Blair. Maybe since Thatcher or Wilson.northern_monkey said:HYUFD said:
'Of course, Boris reaches white working class Labour voters who have not voted Tory since Thatcher if ever in a way no other Tory leader would, much as Trump reaches white working class Democrats who have not voted Republican since Reagan'
My take on it is that WWC voters thing Boris is a fool. But he is a fool who will bring about Brexit. Which the bulk of the WWC (of which I am a part, by the way) think will ameliorate the impacts of deindustrialisation, chronic underinvestment in the north and austerity. They're probably going to be very disappointed.
If they win as expected, the new ruling Tory party will be changed: much more slanted to the north, and to the WWC.
So the north can seriously expect a better deal under Boris, as those new MPs clamour for their causes.
The WWC are therefore voting logically, and in their own self interest.0 -
Chaneel Fake News might just stick......RobD said:It was fake news?
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For posh Tories and even significant sections of the working class, being racist, specially towards Muslims, is actually a vote catcher. That's a fact. The shit Sun newpapers sells soley, because day in and day out it rants against foreigners, gypsies,Muslims and 'people of Color. So racism is not always a negative, look at Trump0
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Haha!!! Even now, even now...SouthamObserver said:
Neither you nor I heard talent. But, yes, I need to be a lot more careful.isam said:
Deja vu all over again. Look before you leap J-DubzSouthamObserver said:
He is just telling another lie about immigration. The term he uses is neither here nor there.BluerBlue said:
People Of Colour (or POC) is actually the currently correct and woke term in US politics and thus in internet-speak and amongst youngsters globally!Alanbrooke said:
Cant see the issue personally, BoJo was talking to Justin Trudeau earlier this week quite happily and he's a sometime person of colour.SouthamObserver said:
He literally says "people of colour".isam said:
I don’t think so.SouthamObserver said:
Yes, he does.isam said:
Quite likely he doesn’t say ‘people of colour’ thereSouthamObserver said:Johnson directly equating getting Brexit done with controlling immigration by "people of colour". My word.
https://twitter.com/MayaGoodfellow/status/1202902195047403520
Be careful, you have jumped to incorrect conclusions before on things like this that you are prejudiced on, the Sun blacking up Gina Miller for instance, and you admit you see everything Boris does through the prism of thinking the worst
Boris is in fact being of-the-moment PC here.1 -
I already have on here and here ...felix said:
Good for you - that's something Southam Observer will never doCorrectHorseBattery said:Fair enough I’ll hold my hands up that I’ve got it wrong
https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/1202915568271134720
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I see Jezza now claims they will deal with anti semitism
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I hope Ofcom is quick to condemn them and the party commence litigationRobD said:
Channel 4: fake news peddlers and enablers.Slackbladder said:So people are now, clearly editing the clip to make him say 'of colour' too.
what a f-ing mess.2 -
Southam wanted it be true.
That reflects very badly on him.1 -
Sorry seems to be the hardest word.0 -
LOL whoops. That’s a rather big mistake.TrèsDifficile said:0 -
The Channel 4 clip is excellent at proving how our ears can play tricks when given conflicting info . When I originally saw it I thought it was people of colour but listening on LBC without the subtitles and on the radio you can hear talent .0
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He mis-speaks, either most commonly as a mistake, or what for conspiracy theorists may see as some other reason, saying "Cal-nt".0
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Boris acts like a clown but deep inside he is a shrewd, ruthless and manipulative politician. In reality he has taken the country for a ride and fools the masses.
In 2005, while aiming to be Mayor of London, he was pro Eu and even wanted Turkey to join in!
In 2016, while aiming to be PM, he became an eurosceptic and plays to the audience with phrases such as letter boxes etc.
The country has gone down hill, but Boris has managed to become it's PM. It will be a pyrrhic vicory at the end.2 -
You need to ask yourself why you are SO desperate to think the worst of Boris, and Brexit, that it is literally warping your senses.SouthamObserver said:
I already have on here and here ...felix said:
Good for you - that's something Southam Observer will never doCorrectHorseBattery said:Fair enough I’ll hold my hands up that I’ve got it wrong
https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/1202915568271134720
This isn't the first time you've made an embarrassing error by leaping to a false conclusion that best supports your prejudices2 -
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The enablers were surely the party that started the game of editing videos to make, say, Keir Starmer look like a prize lemon.RobD said:
Channel 4: fake news peddlers and enablers.Slackbladder said:So people are now, clearly editing the clip to make him say 'of colour' too.
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BBC as well tbfBrom said:
Obviously an attempt at a gotcha moment backfired, Tories have fair claim to being mistreated by Channel 4 News in recent years.Big_G_NorthWales said:Statement from Channel 4
Boris Johnson says “people of talent” not “people of colour.”
Our earlier tweet was a mistake. We misheard and we apologise.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7762229/BBC-News-Ten-host-Huw-Edwards-criticised-liking-Tweets-urged-people-vote-Labour.html1 -
Vote slidedown? The LDs got 7.4% in 2017. Even 13% is approaching double that.MarqueeMark said:
Is there much more of the LibDem vote amenable to a squeeze? How much will never vote for the anti-semites? That seems to be about the only question left to ask in this election.RobD said:
FWIW I think this might be close to the final outcome. The Libdem slide is going to keep some more SE Tories in the House; the Labour rise will keep their vote slidedown to only semi-disastrous.
Yes, they have drifted in the polls, since the summer anyway, but where are BXP? Still well ahead of this time last year. It’s been terrible expectation management.1 -
Channel 4 needs some people of talent asap...
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It's a bit like the Paris in the Spring test from the CIA Psychology of Intelligence Analysis book..
What's wrong with this?2 -
Yes. For anyone still in doubt, I recommend listening to it rather than watching it.nico67 said:The Channel 4 clip is excellent at proving how our ears can play tricks when given conflicting info . When I originally saw it I thought it was people of colour but listening on LBC without the subtitles and on the radio you can hear talent .
If you do, it is 100% obvious it is "talent" not "colour", indeed the possibility it is "colour" never even suggests itself.0 -
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