Opens the door for all politicians to refuse interviews that don't suit them.
A very bad day for democracy, but that's what we've come to expect from our Eton-grown Trump.
It will not cost him a single vote. When you are up against Jeremy Corbyn, you can win an election by lying and running away. But you can also win it by telling the truth and facing detailed scrutiny. Johnson's decsion to employ the forner strategy will cost him dear in the longer term, but he may not have been capable of doing anything else.
Mrs Thatcher won the 1983 election by default despite riots, recession and the highest ever unemployment rate, because she was up against Michael Foot. The same thing is going to happen with Johnson because his opponent is Corbyn. Another "by default" election.
Very true. But it will cost him a few votes, probably in the home counties seats where there is an independent standing. I have seen the animosity to Johnson amongst party members (never mind supporters) in Surrey, and little things like this will tip a few votes to the likes of Milton. But it will make no difference unless such a seat turns out on a knife edge (and that will be unlikely to affect the national picture).
The regularity with which Bozo fanboys like MarqueeMark keep telling us that dodging the AN interview doesn't matter in the slightest suggests that it does.
I think it is a mistake and he should have done it as scheduled
However, I do not see it making any difference
It's the sort of thing that my grandparents will notice because they have the TV on all day and watch daily politics and stuff like that. It may not make people vote Labour, but it might make people think about how enthused they are to vote for Johnson (especially if weather is bad on the day, and if people think a Tory landslide is in the bag).
As for why the landslide narrative isn't taking hold I think it is to prevent lower turnout from Con votes needed to make sure it is true. If all the Tory press were like "landslide predicted" like last time, if weather is bad, again, some Con voters may be less enthused to vote. It is also the case that due to vote efficiency and tactical voting it is difficult to know if this is going to be Cons -10 maj to +100 maj. The Conservatives are just a MOE in Labs direction away from the -10 scenario.
The regularity with which Bozo fanboys like MarqueeMark keep telling us that dodging the AN interview doesn't matter in the slightest suggests that it does.
Whatever. Keep going on about it all day if you like. Right up until 8.30 pm, when Boris is, er, on the telly not dodging the public questioning.
As I said the lengths you go to try to dismiss it and defend it suggest you believe it is an issue and your stance contrasst starkly with with more thoughtful Tories like Casino and Max who are appalled by it and can see that it is not a good look at all.
The Neil takedown confirmed to me that "Boris" is not doing the interview. If it was still in the offing Neil would not have gone for the jugular as he did. And I think it's fair dues now. The Beeb have mitigated their error. "Boris" is now OK in my eyes to stay away from Neil. He's suffered a hit for it and that is pleasing. Fairness restored. Very important that it was. What does surprise me is him blowing off Julie Etchingham. How is he going to negotiate a good trade deal with the EU if he's scared of Julie Etchingham?
Morning Kinabalu. I could have done with you late last night. I was making a stout defence of our Laura, but I was sadly alone. People think Labour's best chance for 2024 lies somewhere in your manor - well more round Islington and Camden.
Probably the worst thing (don't bother whatabouttheantisemitism-ing at me) about the Momentum Jezza Christ brigade is their humourless piety.
A minor problem of the explosion of social media is that we are suddenly all collectively responsible for every single person voting the same way, including any random, silly or offensive thoughts they've put on social media. I've never heard of this bloke and he's typical only of himself - Momentum, just like every other political movement, is the usual mix of the zealous, the half-committed, the humourless, the funny, etc. The same applies when we find that the Tory vice-chair of Little Snodding has posted a rude note on his FB page - it doesn't tell us anything important about the Tories as a whole.
Opens the door for all politicians to refuse interviews that don't suit them.
A very bad day for democracy, but that's what we've come to expect from our Eton-grown Trump.
It will not cost him a single vote. When you are up against Jeremy Corbyn, you can win an election by lying and running away. But you can also win it by telling the truth and facing detailed scrutiny. Johnson's decsion to employ the forner strategy will cost him dear in the longer term, but he may not have been capable of doing anything else.
Mrs Thatcher won the 1983 election by default despite riots, recession and the highest ever unemployment rate, because she was up against Michael Foot. The same thing is going to happen with Johnson because his opponent is Corbyn. Another "by default" election.
Much as I disliked her, Thatcher was not a political coward and she was not a congenital liar. In fact, she enjoyed telling voters what she saw as home truths they did not want to hear!
It is the more remarkable lies of his many lies. Black is white. His Brexit secretary says the opposite in parliament. It is there in the legal texts. Yet Brexiteers and Unionists dont care as he is their man.
And re the Hobson's choice at next week's GE. One non-political friend commented yesterday that choosing who to vote for is like choosing who to find in bed with your wife.
Excellent analogy. I think I'd have to vote for Swinson on that basis, though a vote for the greens would give a 50:50 chance of an acceptable outcome.
You could kinda excuse the missus falling for the wiles of a nototorious lothario.
Finding her in bed with Corbyn would really crush your self-esteem....
1. We know from the Mori Tracker that the London attacks sent the Best Campaign figures fully into reverse: the Tories surged, Labour sank. Corbyn loses big on national security.
2. Trump comes to town. Far from being a disaster, he stays resolutely on message and provides no ammunition on the NHS whatsoever. Boris being on the periphery of the circle that caused Trump to storm off with hurt feelings alleviates the risk of him being seen as Trump's poodle. Loads of coverage of Boris hosting world leaders and being statesmanlike. Corbyn locked out like some passing vagrant, and is caught in an embarrassing lie about his Christmas viewing habits that runs for 48 hours.
3. Publication of the Jewish labour Movement EHRC submission lays out in full the virulent antisemitism infesting Labour, to the extent that only the most hardened cultist can ignore it.
4. Every single poll shows a stall in Labour momentum, with the only net change a Tory +1 with Kantar.
Set against all that, I'll take one viral non-interview clip all day, any day, and twice on Sundays! Look at the big picture, FFS - this was one of the most one-sided weeks in UK campaigning history!
And re the Hobson's choice at next week's GE. One non-political friend commented yesterday that choosing who to vote for is like choosing who to find in bed with your wife.
Excellent analogy. I think I'd have to vote for Swinson on that basis, though a vote for the greens would give a 50:50 chance of an acceptable outcome.
You could kinda excuse the missus falling for the wiles of a nototorious lothario.
Finding her in bed with Corbyn would really crush your self-esteem....
Labour going big on Brexit is um 'brave' Starmer to negotiate a crap deal so he can vote against it and cancel Brexit. Another 10 bricks in the red wall crumble away
The regularity with which Bozo fanboys like MarqueeMark keep telling us that dodging the AN interview doesn't matter in the slightest suggests that it does.
I think it is a mistake and he should have done it as scheduled
However, I do not see it making any difference
It's the sort of thing that my grandparents will notice because they have the TV on all day and watch daily politics and stuff like that. It may not make people vote Labour, but it might make people think about how enthused they are to vote for Johnson (especially if weather is bad on the day, and if people think a Tory landslide is in the bag).
As for why the landslide narrative isn't taking hold I think it is to prevent lower turnout from Con votes needed to make sure it is true. If all the Tory press were like "landslide predicted" like last time, if weather is bad, again, some Con voters may be less enthused to vote. It is also the case that due to vote efficiency and tactical voting it is difficult to know if this is going to be Cons -10 maj to +100 maj. The Conservatives are just a MOE in Labs direction away from the -10 scenario.
Mr Johnson runs the most unpopular new government on record; Mr Corbyn is the most unpopular leader of the opposition. On Friday the 13th, unlucky Britons will wake to find one of these horrors in charge.
A strong Lib Dem showing would signal to voters who favour open markets and a liberal society that the centre is alive. The past few years have shown why Parliament needs good people such as Sam Gyimah, who left the Tories because of their extremism, and Chuka Umunna, who left Labour because of theirs. The course of Brexit has been repeatedly changed for the better by independent-minded MPs making the running. If Britain withdraws from the EU in January, the Lib Dem MPs will be among the best advocates of a deep trade deal and the strongest opponents of no-deal. There is no good outcome to this nightmare of an election. But for the centre to hold is the best hope for Britain.
Those shining lights the Economist cites are vacuous politicians who believe in nothing but themselves. Vacuous, shallow? Sounds like the Economist in fact. The Lib Dems are not the centre, they are the wolf jumper-wearing, hummus-chomping, gender neutral passport brandishing, woke-metropolitan liberal elite. No offence to Mike...
True, but paragons of virtue by comparison to the Conservative and Labour Parties.
That would be true, were it not for their flagship policy of overturning a referendum result because the people voted the ‘wrong’ way.
Ah, the 'too much democracy' argument!
They’re not arguing for ‘more democracy’, they’re arguing to overturn the referendum result. “Revoke A50” because they think we voted the wrong way.
By winning an election.
We'll see.
The idea that the illiberal undemocrats are somehow the "realists" of this election because they're going to revoke article 50 after winning an election is the most pantomine nonsense around.
Tories nailed on at 5/1. Is Ynys Mon a night time count, or do I have to wait till Friday for satisfaction?
Seems an unlikely Conservative gain after they tried to foist a convicted criminal (Chris Davies) on the constituency and then were forced to withdraw him. Not a good look. PC look a more attractive bet at 17/10. But I would be more interested if you could get 5/1 about the Tories. The best I can see is 2/1. Where is the 5/1?
The Neil takedown confirmed to me that "Boris" is not doing the interview. If it was still in the offing Neil would not have gone for the jugular as he did. And I think it's fair dues now. The Beeb have mitigated their error. "Boris" is now OK in my eyes to stay away from Neil. He's suffered a hit for it and that is pleasing. Fairness restored. Very important that it was. What does surprise me is him blowing off Julie Etchingham. How is he going to negotiate a good trade deal with the EU if he's scared of Julie Etchingham?
He isn't...
He doesn't want a good trade deal - he wants his name on the list of people who are prime minster.
And to do that and stay there he needs to leave the EU and sign up for whatever deal he can get that allows us to have a trade deal by 31st December 2020.
Oh and because it's a crap trade deal he will be able to blame the EU for the years he is in power.
This is another point that is not getting coverage. Labour and the LDs have gone for you cant negotiate a trade deal in under a year line. It is the wrong attack line. Of course you can if you are willing to give the other side a great deal and take rubbish for your own side. The public dont care about the details of a trade deal but many will be impressed when the PM concludes one quickly despite people saying its impossible. It will be terrible for business, jobs and the economy in the UK purely to aid the personal ambition and over promises of our dear leader.
Hmm, vox pops from the office - the line about Boris having to face up to Putin and not willing to face up to Brillo is hurting. The rest people don't care about it's "politics" but that line is hurting Bozza.
It’s utterly stupid and is going to seriously damage him.
I’m furious.
It's what Johnson has been doing his entire political career. He lies and runs away from detailed scrutiny - from the media and in Parliament. That will never change.
1. We know from the Mori Tracker that the London attacks sent the Best Campaign figures fully into reverse: the Tories surged, Labour sank. Corbyn loses big on national security.
2. Trump comes to town. Far from being a disaster, he stays resolutely on message and provides no ammunition on the NHS whatsoever. Boris being on the periphery of the circle that caused Trump to storm off with hurt feelings alleviates the risk of him being seen as Trump's poodle. Loads of coverage of Boris hosting world leaders and being statesmanlike. Corbyn locked out like some passing vagrant, and is caught in an embarrassing lie about his Christmas viewing habits that runs for 48 hours.
3. Publication of the Jewish labour Movement EHRC submission lays out in full the virulent antisemitism infesting Labour, to the extent that only the most hardened cultist can ignore it.
4. Every single poll shows a stall in Labour momentum, with the only net change a Tory +1 with Kantar.
Set against all that, I'll take one viral non-interview clip all day, any day, and twice on Sundays! Look at the big picture, FFS - this was one of the most one-sided weeks in UK campaigning history!
Rounded off with Labour's Wrexham firewall aflame....
Fear of that 2017 exit poll being repeated and hatred of Boris by the metropolitan elite is masking what is there for all to see: an epic drubbing for Labour.
1. We know from the Mori Tracker that the London attacks sent the Best Campaign figures fully into reverse: the Tories surged, Labour sank. Corbyn loses big on national security.
2. Trump comes to town. Far from being a disaster, he stays resolutely on message and provides no ammunition on the NHS whatsoever. Boris being on the periphery of the circle that caused Trump to storm off with hurt feelings alleviates the risk of him being seen as Trump's poodle. Loads of coverage of Boris hosting world leaders and being statesmanlike. Corbyn locked out like some passing vagrant, and is caught in an embarrassing lie about his Christmas viewing habits that runs for 48 hours.
3. Publication of the Jewish labour Movement EHRC submission lays out in full the virulent antisemitism infesting Labour, to the extent that only the most hardened cultist can ignore it.
4. Every single poll shows a stall in Labour momentum, with the only net change a Tory +1 with Kantar.
Set against all that, I'll take one viral non-interview clip all day, any day, and twice on Sundays! Look at the big picture, FFS - this was one of the most one-sided weeks in UK campaigning history!
It was a good week and I'd be surprised if the tracker shows Labour making any significant dent in that 10 point lead. If Boris stays out of trouble tonight and Neil falls out of the news then I think CCHQ will be delighted. Boris is lucky that he has the chance to go in front of a large TV audience tonight so part of the public wonder what all the 'scared' fuss was about.
I don`t find this as nonsensical as you do - my problem with it is that it will result in a ref comprising Remain v sort-of-Remain.
It cannot respresent an honouring of the 2016 referendum if Brexit supporters don`t regard it as Brexit, and so will not quell the fury. Rather it will intensify it.
Exactly right. There is only one flaw in Labour's Brexit policy but it's a fatal one. It leads to a "Remain vs Quasi Remain" referendum. That's a fix.
Yes, I was just thinking that. Tempers fraying as the final week gets underway.
Local campaigning round here seems to have got more ill tempered too. Labour have stopped attacking the (incumbent, safe) Conservative and are training their fire on the Lib Dem candidate. I almost wonder if there’s been a national strategy to hit the LDs so they’re in no place to challenge for second when the inevitable Corbyn defeat happens and Wrong-Daily takes over.
My Facebook feed suggests that this is the case.
We've not had any such request. Here in Surrey we're running a purely positive campaign and refraining from any attacks on the LibDems, apart from politely saying SW Surrey isn't really somewhere to worry about tactical voting and they really should be concentrating on Guildford as the realistic target, which I think is 100% true.
I do get a sense that the party is focusing on the North now, however much we say otherwise. Which makes sense at this point.
Certainly explains all the accents on radio and TV. Where are you lot hiding Thornberry and Starmer nowadays?
And re the Hobson's choice at next week's GE. One non-political friend commented yesterday that choosing who to vote for is like choosing who to find in bed with your wife.
Excellent analogy. I think I'd have to vote for Swinson on that basis, though a vote for the greens would give a 50:50 chance of an acceptable outcome.
You could kinda excuse the missus falling for the wiles of a nototorious lothario.
Finding her in bed with Corbyn would really crush your self-esteem....
Finding her in bed with Boris would not only crush her self-esteem but quite a lot else given his recent weight gain.
Hmm, vox pops from the office - the line about Boris having to face up to Putin and not willing to face up to Brillo is hurting. The rest people don't care about it's "politics" but that line is hurting Bozza.
It’s utterly stupid and is going to seriously damage him.
As much damage as doing the interview might do?
He's not doing it because he knows AN is going to ask a question (probably about his fucking stupid kids) that he is going to have to respond to with a direct lie.
I don`t find this as nonsensical as you do - my problem with it is that it will result in a ref comprising Remain v sort-of-Remain.
It cannot respresent an honouring of the 2016 referendum if Brexit supporters don`t regard it as Brexit, and so will not quell the fury. Rather it will intensify it.
Exactly right. There is only one flaw in Labour's Brexit policy but it's a fatal one. It leads to a "Remain vs Quasi Remain" referendum. That's a fix.
You're arguing against yourself. Lab's Brexit policy is of course bonkers but whatever the deal they come up with would be leaving. Even if they replicated every one of the existing terms of our EU membership, if we "left" the EU it would be fulfilling the referendum mandate.
The simplicity of the ballot paper question works both ways: no deal honours the referendum result, as does full on compliance with every EU rule and reg and the obligation to speak French on Wednesdays.
It will make no difference to the outcome of the election. But long-term perceptions of PM Johnson are now being framed. Being regarded as a liar who runs away from scrutiny will not help his leadership, especially when it turns out he cannot deliver on the promises he has made.
It might in a country where there is democratic (or any) accountability. There is none here. Plus, he's posh, so the effect is doubled.
And re the Hobson's choice at next week's GE. One non-political friend commented yesterday that choosing who to vote for is like choosing who to find in bed with your wife.
Excellent analogy. I think I'd have to vote for Swinson on that basis, though a vote for the greens would give a 50:50 chance of an acceptable outcome.
You could kinda excuse the missus falling for the wiles of a nototorious lothario.
Finding her in bed with Corbyn would really crush your self-esteem....
I'd prefer to find my wife in bed with JC. He'd be wearing pyjamas and trying to persuade her about the evils of capitalism; she'd likely be falling asleep. BJ would be naked, slobbering and trying to impregnate her, with her unable to move due to his considerable mass.
'Of course, Boris reaches white working class Labour voters who have not voted Tory since Thatcher if ever in a way no other Tory leader would, much as Trump reaches white working class Democrats who have not voted Republican since Reagan'
My take on it is that WWC voters thing Boris is a fool. But he is a fool who will bring about Brexit. Which the bulk of the WWC (of which I am a part, by the way) think will ameliorate the impacts of deindustrialisation, chronic underinvestment in the north and austerity. They're probably going to be very disappointed.
You make a very good point. It will propel Bozo into number 10 next week but the big question is what do those people do when they realise by the next GE that Brexit has not made a jot of difference to their areas and in fact may have even made it worse.
You're right. I have no idea! But I don't think whatever happens will be pretty. Unless my suspicions are wrong and either a) Brexit is a raging success and the country overflows with milk and honey, or b) if Brexit is economically harmful, Boris and his party open the taps with a gushing Keynesian stimulus. Call me cynical but I don't think either will happen.
We are heading for a landslide tory win We are heading for a landslide Tory win We are heading for a landslide Tory win
Every important indicator points to it. And yet people are still talking about a hung Parliament? What the hell is going on?
We are anticipating many taking a look at their ballot paper and falling under the spell of that Brexit Party arrow?
Hahaha.
This is serious. We need to talk about what a 100 seat majority government would do? The manifesto is thread bare.
Years more arguing about Brexit.
One of Johnson's big priorities will be to remove the ability of Parliament and the courts to scrutinise what the government is doing. He will want to ensure that decsions he takes cannot be challenged. This will be particularly important with regards to the trade deals he will be seeking to sign up to. Once the scrutiny is removed, there are likely to be be intensive voter suppression initiatives.
The state of the election, with just six days left of campaigning, has the Conservatives on 44 per cent (unchanged since two weeks ago), Labour on 32 per cent (up four points from 28), the Liberal Democrats squeezed to 13 (down three) and the Brexit Party on two per cent (down one).
Is that legitimate? No blue tick and never heard of that account before.
If it is (big if) then 12 point lead with less than a week to go. When are the changes with? It feels like we haven't had any MORI's for quite a while.
I'm liking this ploy of Jezza to go with all these leaked documents: it creates the feel of an insurgency and paints Boris as a besieged establishment figure cobbling together duplicitous schemes from the bunker. This is important. People adore Boris because they think he's a devil-may-care outsider on a mission. Paint him as a calculating technocrat using underhand methods and the magic is lost.
Apparently Swinson agreed to be interviewed by Emma Barnett for Women's Hour, and it is car crash stuff.
I'm guessing the gender neutral stuff came up during the interview. Just going to listen to it.
I think Emma got stuck in over her coalition voting record.
Please report back - I've never listening to Women's Hour in my life, and I don't intend to start now. Only Radio 4 could decide that us ladies needed a special hour (because we're not interested in other programming, due to being ladies), then put it on mid-morning when the vast majority of women are at work.
And re the Hobson's choice at next week's GE. One non-political friend commented yesterday that choosing who to vote for is like choosing who to find in bed with your wife.
Excellent analogy. I think I'd have to vote for Swinson on that basis, though a vote for the greens would give a 50:50 chance of an acceptable outcome.
You could kinda excuse the missus falling for the wiles of a nototorious lothario.
Finding her in bed with Corbyn would really crush your self-esteem....
Finding her in bed with Boris would not only crush her self-esteem but quite a lot else given his recent weight gain.
12 pt lead for the Tories. 16 always looked a bit high in the last one.
Yep that seems fair. Labour had to climb off 28 but the Tories not dropping will be very pleasing for them. This is within MOE for 97' landslide territory which is of course bullshit but it's a very healthy majority even if Labour climb another 4 points in the last few days (unlikely).
Is that legitimate? No blue tick and never heard of that account before.
If it is (big if) then 12 point lead with less than a week to go. When are the changes with? It feels like we haven't had any MORI's for quite a while.
yep its legit, nos from the standard opinion poll out today
I'm liking this ploy of Jezza to go with all these leaked documents: it creates the feel of an insurgency and paints Boris as a besieged establishment figure cobbling together duplicitous schemes from the bunker. This is important. People adore Boris because they think he's a devil-may-care outsider on a mission. Paint him as a calculating technocrat using underhand methods and the magic is lost.
If this is so successful do you think this will move the election from "99.95% Hung Parliament" to Labour majority then? 😂😂
And re the Hobson's choice at next week's GE. One non-political friend commented yesterday that choosing who to vote for is like choosing who to find in bed with your wife.
Excellent analogy. I think I'd have to vote for Swinson on that basis, though a vote for the greens would give a 50:50 chance of an acceptable outcome.
You could kinda excuse the missus falling for the wiles of a nototorious lothario.
Finding her in bed with Corbyn would really crush your self-esteem....
Finding her in bed with Boris would not only crush her self-esteem but quite a lot else given his recent weight gain.
Oh good. Corbyn again confirming he is against Brexit. How thick can he be?
How does ones mind jump in these contortions? All Labour have done is point out the problem with Johnson's claims, and how his own government were preparing to do the things he said weren't going to be necessary. You may disagree with Labour's definition of Brexit, but Labour's proposal is to leave the EU if their deal wins a confirmatory referendum.
Wind warning for Sunday/Monday. Looks like there might be another one Tuesday/Wednesday. Thursday still currently looking benign, but with more storms afterwards. We're yet to have our first named storm of the season, but there's an outside chance of three in a week - and Election Day managing to be a calm interlude between storms.
Please report back - I've never listening to Women's Hour in my life, and I don't intend to start now. Only Radio 4 could decide that us ladies needed a special hour (because we're not interested in other programming, due to being ladies), then put it on mid-morning when the vast majority of women are at work.
Work? Surely not? Any lady of quality will do her hair, put on a 1950's floral A-Line dress before donning her marigolds to clean the house
I'm liking this ploy of Jezza to go with all these leaked documents: it creates the feel of an insurgency and paints Boris as a besieged establishment figure cobbling together duplicitous schemes from the bunker. This is important. People adore Boris because they think he's a devil-may-care outsider on a mission. Paint him as a calculating technocrat using underhand methods and the magic is lost.
He really loved the leaked documents yesterday that damned his party as chock-full of racists and indicted him personally of 11 counts of antisemitism!
Apparently Swinson agreed to be interviewed by Emma Barnett for Women's Hour, and it is car crash stuff.
I'm guessing the gender neutral stuff came up during the interview. Just going to listen to it.
I think Emma got stuck in over her coalition voting record.
Please report back - I've never listening to Women's Hour in my life, and I don't intend to start now. Only Radio 4 could decide that us ladies needed a special hour (because we're not interested in other programming, due to being ladies), then put it on mid-morning when the vast majority of women are at work.
Or it is hard to hear the radio over the sound of the Hoover?
Apparently Swinson agreed to be interviewed by Emma Barnett for Women's Hour, and it is car crash stuff.
I'm guessing the gender neutral stuff came up during the interview. Just going to listen to it.
I think Emma got stuck in over her coalition voting record.
Please report back - I've never listening to Women's Hour in my life, and I don't intend to start now. Only Radio 4 could decide that us ladies needed a special hour (because we're not interested in other programming, due to being ladies), then put it on mid-morning when the vast majority of women are at work.
Maybe Radio 4 thinks that ladies are listening to it while they clean the kitchen while the men are at work? 🙄
Two wrongs make a right. I guess you kinda haveta believe that to be even considering voting Labour next Thursday.
That is not a bad way of putting it. Regarding voting Labour, I will be doing it with my usual gusto but I will confess that if they were to win a landslide majority with this leadership and manifesto I would, in amongst the excitement, be feeling a tad nervous.
Mori comes into line with the labour squeeze on Lib dems and their slight improvement over the last fortnight. A 12 point lead on polling day would (back of fag packet) see no change in the south and a 10% swing in the north and Midlands perhaps? Would mean Sunderland, wansbeck, blyth, tynemouth, brum northfiele, edgbaston, erdington, the west broms, leigh, batley and spen etc all at high risk and a landslide almost certain
And re the Hobson's choice at next week's GE. One non-political friend commented yesterday that choosing who to vote for is like choosing who to find in bed with your wife.
Excellent analogy. I think I'd have to vote for Swinson on that basis, though a vote for the greens would give a 50:50 chance of an acceptable outcome.
You could kinda excuse the missus falling for the wiles of a nototorious lothario.
Finding her in bed with Corbyn would really crush your self-esteem....
Finding her in bed with Boris would not only crush her self-esteem but quite a lot else given his recent weight gain.
And re the Hobson's choice at next week's GE. One non-political friend commented yesterday that choosing who to vote for is like choosing who to find in bed with your wife.
Excellent analogy. I think I'd have to vote for Swinson on that basis, though a vote for the greens would give a 50:50 chance of an acceptable outcome.
You could kinda excuse the missus falling for the wiles of a nototorious lothario.
Finding her in bed with Corbyn would really crush your self-esteem....
I'd prefer to find my wife in bed with JC. He'd be wearing pyjamas and trying to persuade her about the evils of capitalism; she'd likely be falling asleep. BJ would be naked, slobbering and trying to impregnate her, with her unable to move due to his considerable mass.
Hmmm..... anybody want to think about this from a WOMAN's point of view?????
Two wrongs make a right. I guess you kinda haveta believe that to be even considering voting Labour next Thursday.
That is not a bad way of putting it. Regarding voting Labour, I will be doing it with my usual gusto but I will confess that if they were to win a landslide majority with this leadership and manifesto I would, in amongst the excitement, be feeling a tad nervous.
The residents of Hampstead would get the shock of their cossetted lives when McDonnell's first Budget landed.
Apparently Swinson agreed to be interviewed by Emma Barnett for Women's Hour, and it is car crash stuff.
I'm guessing the gender neutral stuff came up during the interview. Just going to listen to it.
I think Emma got stuck in over her coalition voting record.
Please report back - I've never listening to Women's Hour in my life, and I don't intend to start now. Only Radio 4 could decide that us ladies needed a special hour (because we're not interested in other programming, due to being ladies), then put it on mid-morning when the vast majority of women are at work.
Maybe Radio 4 thinks that ladies are listening to it while they clean the kitchen while the men are at work? 🙄
Their target audience has a cleaner, I imagine. Ladies are listening before they go and meet some chums for lunch.
And re the Hobson's choice at next week's GE. One non-political friend commented yesterday that choosing who to vote for is like choosing who to find in bed with your wife.
Excellent analogy. I think I'd have to vote for Swinson on that basis, though a vote for the greens would give a 50:50 chance of an acceptable outcome.
You could kinda excuse the missus falling for the wiles of a nototorious lothario.
Finding her in bed with Corbyn would really crush your self-esteem....
I'd prefer to find my wife in bed with JC. He'd be wearing pyjamas and trying to persuade her about the evils of capitalism; she'd likely be falling asleep. BJ would be naked, slobbering and trying to impregnate her, with her unable to move due to his considerable mass.
Hmmm..... anybody want to think about this from a WOMAN's point of view?????
Please report back - I've never listening to Women's Hour in my life, and I don't intend to start now. Only Radio 4 could decide that us ladies needed a special hour (because we're not interested in other programming, due to being ladies), then put it on mid-morning when the vast majority of women are at work.
Work? Surely not? Any lady of quality will do her hair, put on a 1950's floral A-Line dress before donning her marigolds to clean the house
Given that the last Mori poll was more than 3 weeks ago, we don't know if that movement is recent or simply it's the one already recorded by other companies weeks ago. Nevertheless CON 44, LAB 32, LD 13, BRX 2 would give a Conservative majority of 44-64. If tonight's debate doesn't change anything then this election is over.
Apparently Swinson agreed to be interviewed by Emma Barnett for Women's Hour, and it is car crash stuff.
I'm guessing the gender neutral stuff came up during the interview. Just going to listen to it.
I think Emma got stuck in over her coalition voting record.
Please report back - I've never listening to Women's Hour in my life, and I don't intend to start now. Only Radio 4 could decide that us ladies needed a special hour (because we're not interested in other programming, due to being ladies), then put it on mid-morning when the vast majority of women are at work.
Maybe Radio 4 thinks that ladies are listening to it while they clean the kitchen while the men are at work? 🙄
Their target audience has a cleaner, I imagine. Ladies are listening before they go and meet some chums for lunch.
Yes, the target audience for Radio 4. Ladies Who Lynch.....
And re the Hobson's choice at next week's GE. One non-political friend commented yesterday that choosing who to vote for is like choosing who to find in bed with your wife.
Excellent analogy. I think I'd have to vote for Swinson on that basis, though a vote for the greens would give a 50:50 chance of an acceptable outcome.
You could kinda excuse the missus falling for the wiles of a nototorious lothario.
Finding her in bed with Corbyn would really crush your self-esteem....
I'd prefer to find my wife in bed with JC. He'd be wearing pyjamas and trying to persuade her about the evils of capitalism; she'd likely be falling asleep. BJ would be naked, slobbering and trying to impregnate her, with her unable to move due to his considerable mass.
Hmmm..... anybody want to think about this from a WOMAN's point of view?????
I really don't know who my wife would rather find me in bed with out of Jez and Boris. She'd probably be a little worried if I were to ask her.
Given that the last Mori poll was more than 3 weeks ago, we don't know if that movement is recent or simply it's the one already recorded by other companies weeks ago. Nevertheless CON 44, LAB 32, LD 13, BRX 2 would give a Conservative majority of 44-64. If tonight's debate doesn't change anything then this election is over.
You are relying heavily on the polls - what if they are all wrong?
And re the Hobson's choice at next week's GE. One non-political friend commented yesterday that choosing who to vote for is like choosing who to find in bed with your wife.
Excellent analogy. I think I'd have to vote for Swinson on that basis, though a vote for the greens would give a 50:50 chance of an acceptable outcome.
You could kinda excuse the missus falling for the wiles of a nototorious lothario.
Finding her in bed with Corbyn would really crush your self-esteem....
Finding her in bed with Boris would not only crush her self-esteem but quite a lot else given his recent weight gain.
You're so bitter aren't you?
No. As I have said before, I used to vote for Andrew Tyrie in Chichester. But sometimes you have to call a clown a clown. He will win, but because he is facing Corbyn, as others have said. It appears that, unlike you, I am able to see the weakness in all the party leaders.
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As for why the landslide narrative isn't taking hold I think it is to prevent lower turnout from Con votes needed to make sure it is true. If all the Tory press were like "landslide predicted" like last time, if weather is bad, again, some Con voters may be less enthused to vote. It is also the case that due to vote efficiency and tactical voting it is difficult to know if this is going to be Cons -10 maj to +100 maj. The Conservatives are just a MOE in Labs direction away from the -10 scenario.
Liar liar
Who'd be Nick Robinson's agent right now?
Finding her in bed with Corbyn would really crush your self-esteem....
1. We know from the Mori Tracker that the London attacks sent the Best Campaign figures fully into reverse: the Tories surged, Labour sank. Corbyn loses big on national security.
2. Trump comes to town. Far from being a disaster, he stays resolutely on message and provides no ammunition on the NHS whatsoever. Boris being on the periphery of the circle that caused Trump to storm off with hurt feelings alleviates the risk of him being seen as Trump's poodle. Loads of coverage of Boris hosting world leaders and being statesmanlike. Corbyn locked out like some passing vagrant, and is caught in an embarrassing lie about his Christmas viewing habits that runs for 48 hours.
3. Publication of the Jewish labour Movement EHRC submission lays out in full the virulent antisemitism infesting Labour, to the extent that only the most hardened cultist can ignore it.
4. Every single poll shows a stall in Labour momentum, with the only net change a Tory +1 with Kantar.
Set against all that, I'll take one viral non-interview clip all day, any day, and twice on Sundays! Look at the big picture, FFS - this was one of the most one-sided weeks in UK campaigning history!
And would save me a job.
Starmer to negotiate a crap deal so he can vote against it and cancel Brexit. Another 10 bricks in the red wall crumble away
The idea that the illiberal undemocrats are somehow the "realists" of this election because they're going to revoke article 50 after winning an election is the most pantomine nonsense around.
The public dont care about the details of a trade deal but many will be impressed when the PM concludes one quickly despite people saying its impossible. It will be terrible for business, jobs and the economy in the UK purely to aid the personal ambition and over promises of our dear leader.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/24/johnson-avoiding-scrutiny-cancelled-appearances-says-senior-mp
Fear of that 2017 exit poll being repeated and hatred of Boris by the metropolitan elite is masking what is there for all to see: an epic drubbing for Labour.
"Who are you coming round for? They're all bloody rubbish, the lot of them.
But I do love Boris."
The simplicity of the ballot paper question works both ways: no deal honours the referendum result, as does full on compliance with every EU rule and reg and the obligation to speak French on Wednesdays.
Need a topic first. Let's go with Transgender Rights. What is your thinking on that?
https://twitter.com/LiveSquawk/status/1202899539579068416
How thick can he be?
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/latest-opinion-polls-conservative-party-lead-narrows-as-labour-and-corbyn-make-gains-a4306426.html
If it is (big if) then 12 point lead with less than a week to go. When are the changes with? It feels like we haven't had any MORI's for quite a while.
Please report back - I've never listening to Women's Hour in my life, and I don't intend to start now. Only Radio 4 could decide that us ladies needed a special hour (because we're not interested in other programming, due to being ladies), then put it on mid-morning when the vast majority of women are at work.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now 1-d&geo=GB&q=/m/0h508,/m/025m87
The result is no one cares, as expected, Neil is number 20 out of 25 and no impact in interest about Boris.
Wonder if Jezbollah is going to start legal action against the Telegraph
they were not pulling their punches
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2019/12/05/jeremy-corbyn-anti-semite/
"A vote for Labour on December 12 is a vote for an institutionally anti-Semitic party led by an anti-Semite."
p.s. I grew up there, I'm allowed to say it.
Next topic... this one is all used up
Nevertheless CON 44, LAB 32, LD 13, BRX 2 would give a Conservative majority of 44-64.
If tonight's debate doesn't change anything then this election is over.
(not a typo!)
https://twitter.com/MayaGoodfellow/status/1202902195047403520