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+1noneoftheabove said:
Indeed. And the Labour rebels. Whilst CUK and TIG have been a disaster in many ways, they did show that ultimately MPs can be effective parliamentarians without the support of the party whips and patronage. With increasingly authoritarian leaders being selected in both major parties that is an important precedent.nico67 said:Whatever happens re the Tory rebels they deserve the gratitude of all those who didn’t want a no deal .
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Many of those shadow ministers are too young to recall the reality of the Thatcher years, when naïve young canvassers simply couldn’t comprehend why someone as evil as she could possibly be more popular than Neil Kinnock.
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When do the parties Manifesto get published? Then hopefully the media wont obsess themselves with Brexit and we get to see what more horrors are in store (from all 3 parties)0
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No x axis label.kle4 said:I confess I did have a chuckle at this take on why certain pro-eu politicians are more or less popular
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True. It’s been quite astonishing just how many MPs have rebelled and resigned over the last two years . I doubt we’ll ever see this again in our lifetimes.noneoftheabove said:
Indeed. And the Labour rebels. Whilst CUK and TIG have been a disaster in many ways, they did show that ultimately MPs can be effective parliamentarians without the support of the party whips and patronage. With increasingly authoritarian leaders being selected in both major parties that is an important precedent.nico67 said:Whatever happens re the Tory rebels they deserve the gratitude of all those who didn’t want a no deal .
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A few changes in Durham and Northumberland would do nobody any harm either. Pidcock, Lavery, et al are hardly ornaments to the Commons.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
I would love to see it.IanB2 said:
“Were you up for JRM?”ydoethur said:
I want to see several major upsets in London.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Me too, we could be in for a highly entertaining night, with a number of 1997 style oustings.Gallowgate said:Buzzing for this election.
In particular I want to see incumbents come third in Uxbridge, Hackney, both Islington seats and hopefully Chingford.
For balance, that tit in Brighton Kemptown needs to go, as well.1 -
Am I right in thinking that TBP won't benefit from the broadcast rules during the election period as they didn't exist last time out?0
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The oldest pathetic game plan of despots who are devoid of real leadership capability: divide and rule.Peter_the_Punter said:
Why? Have they apologised for being naughty?TheScreamingEagles said:
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Can’t wait for the next argument: TV debates.0
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Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.0 -
I don't think any of those will happen. The interesting seats in London will probably be places like Wimbledon, Putney, Kensington, Cities of London & Westminster, Finchley & Golders Green.ydoethur said:
I want to see several major upsets in London.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Me too, we could be in for a highly entertaining night, with a number of 1997 style oustings.Gallowgate said:Buzzing for this election.
In particular I want to see incumbents come third in Uxbridge, Hackney, both Islington seats and hopefully Chingford.0 -
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.0 -
Hammond, Clarke and Gauke can’t be allowed back in. They were intelligent and competent and therefore a threat to the current leadership, who to put it mildly are neither.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.2 -
It would amuse me enormously if the ... "p*ssed off Leave voter ..." was annoyed enough that they reverted to old habits and voted UKIP in sufficient numbers to elect an MP.... whilst Farage got nothing.Nigel_Foremain said:A lot may hinge on whether the "pissed off leave voter" is more flakey than the "pissed off remain voter". The marches of the two polarised viewpoints suggest the one time 48% seem considerably more motivated.
The irony would be worth having a Kipper in Parliament.0 -
Ken Clarke is retiring. He's voting for his Conservative successor.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.0 -
I imagine the Tory manifesto won't have anything remotely controversial at all. Keeping the triple lock, 25 years in prison for people caught with a joint, that sort of thing.sirclive said:When do the parties Manifesto get published? Then hopefully the media wont obsess themselves with Brexit and we get to see what more horrors are in store (from all 3 parties)
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MPs now discussing a rumour published by the Sun that 9 December is now already agreed behind the chair0
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..and a great deal more than any of the intellectually challenged pigmy apologists for Brexit, who allow themselves to be canon fodder for the most dishonest premier this country has ever hadGallowgate said:
That man has done more for this country than you’ll ever do.MarqueeMark said:
As long as Dominic Grieve isn't one.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Boris restoring the Tory whip to some MPs only, apparently.
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No of course they won’t.AndyJS said:
I don't think any of those will happen. The interesting seats in London will probably be places like Wimbledon, Putney, Kensington, Cities of London & Westminster, Finchley & Golders Green.ydoethur said:
I want to see several major upsets in London.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Me too, we could be in for a highly entertaining night, with a number of 1997 style oustings.Gallowgate said:Buzzing for this election.
In particular I want to see incumbents come third in Uxbridge, Hackney, both Islington seats and hopefully Chingford.
But it would be (a) fucking hilarious and (b) great news for the country if they did.0 -
Clarke is a funny one, in as much as I genuinely like the guy, but the fact remains he has been at the centre of the two biggest ruptures in the Tory party.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
Thatcher in '90 and Brexit.
Grieve, Letwin and Hammond should definitely never be permitted back in to the party.
Rudd's fate seems not to have been decided but I don't really care either way on her future.
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He has done more to damage it than practically anyone in the last 30 years. And I even include Brown and Blair in that.Gallowgate said:
That man has done more for this country than you’ll ever do.MarqueeMark said:
As long as Dominic Grieve isn't one.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Boris restoring the Tory whip to some MPs only, apparently.
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There's this chap in Staffordshire that's quite good and all One Nation Tories should support.Gallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.0 -
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That is an interesting question. Corbyn I guess has nothing to lose - what does Boris want and what does Boris do? Leadership campaign mk2 or does he have to embrace them to show he’s not May?Gallowgate said:Can’t wait for the next argument: TV debates.
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I sincerely hope Luciana Berger gets elected in Finchley and Golders Green.AndyJS said:
I don't think any of those will happen. The interesting seats in London will probably be places like Wimbledon, Putney, Kensington, Cities of London & Westminster, Finchley & Golders Green.ydoethur said:
I want to see several major upsets in London.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Me too, we could be in for a highly entertaining night, with a number of 1997 style oustings.Gallowgate said:Buzzing for this election.
In particular I want to see incumbents come third in Uxbridge, Hackney, both Islington seats and hopefully Chingford.5 -
Rudd did not lose the whip, she gave it up herself in protest. Not sure it would be good optics to reinstate it possibly against her will.SunnyJim said:
Clarke is a funny one, in as much as I genuinely like the guy, but the fact remains he has been at the centre of the two biggest ruptures in the Tory party.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
Thatcher in '90 and Brexit.
Grieve, Letwin and Hammond should definitely never be permitted back in to the party.
Rudd's fate seems not to have been decided but I don't really care either way on her future.0 -
In Boris’s interest for Swinson to be there but not in Jezza’s.Time_to_Leave said:
That is an interesting question. Corbyn I guess has nothing to lose - what does Boris want and what does Boris do? Leadership campaign mk2 or does he have to embrace them to show he’s not May?Gallowgate said:Can’t wait for the next argument: TV debates.
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I believe Labour are already counting their postal votes0
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I’ll buy it. Who is it?TheScreamingEagles said:
There's this chap in Stoke that's quite good and all One Nation Tories should support.Gallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
If you say ‘Tissue Price’ be aware that you have just condemned him to defeat at the hands of highly parochial and definitely non-Stoke voters in Newcastle under Lyme...1 -
Tories now in some confusion not knowing how strongly to come out against 9 Dec given rumours they may shortly be asked to vote for it,0
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We have enough Brexit fanboys alreadyTheScreamingEagles said:
There's this chap in Staffordshire that's quite good and all One Nation Tories should support.Gallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.0 -
Yeah I meant him and Staffordshire.ydoethur said:
I’ll buy it. Who is it?TheScreamingEagles said:
There's this chap in Stoke that's quite good and all One Nation Tories should support.Gallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
If you say ‘Tissue Price’ be aware that you have just condemned him to defeat at the hands of highly parochial and definitely non-Stoke voters in Newcastle under Lyme...
In my defence I've spent most of today in a sexual harassment seminar.0 -
North West Durham is interesting. Never gone Tory, sizeable LD vote prior to 2010.ydoethur said:
A few changes in Durham and Northumberland would do nobody any harm either. Pidcock, Lavery, et al are hardly ornaments to the Commons.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
I would love to see it.IanB2 said:
“Were you up for JRM?”ydoethur said:
I want to see several major upsets in London.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Me too, we could be in for a highly entertaining night, with a number of 1997 style oustings.Gallowgate said:Buzzing for this election.
In particular I want to see incumbents come third in Uxbridge, Hackney, both Islington seats and hopefully Chingford.
For balance, that tit in Brighton Kemptown needs to go, as well.0 -
I’ve got a feeling that this election is going to be a shitshow of epic proportions.
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Ooh, do you think they'll need me for Skip & Rip?rottenborough said:0 -
City of Durham also.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
North West Durham is interesting. Never gone Tory, sizeable LD vote prior to 2010.ydoethur said:
A few changes in Durham and Northumberland would do nobody any harm either. Pidcock, Lavery, et al are hardly ornaments to the Commons.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
I would love to see it.IanB2 said:
“Were you up for JRM?”ydoethur said:
I want to see several major upsets in London.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Me too, we could be in for a highly entertaining night, with a number of 1997 style oustings.Gallowgate said:Buzzing for this election.
In particular I want to see incumbents come third in Uxbridge, Hackney, both Islington seats and hopefully Chingford.
For balance, that tit in Brighton Kemptown needs to go, as well.1 -
Ernest Marples features in this fascinating 1971 documentary about Hyde Park:ydoethur said:
Even the abject Grayling is a poor second to Ernest Marples.Casino_Royale said:Off topic, Chris Grayling has to be the worst transport secretary of all time.
He’s completely buggered up the railway network and franchising system and the price we’ll all be likely to pay now is nationalisation.
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"....nationalisation,"Casino_Royale said:Off topic, Chris Grayling has to be the worst transport secretary of all time.
He’s completely buggered up the railway network and franchising system and the price we’ll all be likely to pay now is nationalisation.
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I don’t know what’s more shocking about that post...the confusion over Newcastle under Lyme or the implication that you have seminars on sexually harassing people.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah I meant him and Staffordshire.ydoethur said:
I’ll buy it. Who is it?TheScreamingEagles said:
There's this chap in Stoke that's quite good and all One Nation Tories should support.Gallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
If you say ‘Tissue Price’ be aware that you have just condemned him to defeat at the hands of highly parochial and definitely non-Stoke voters in Newcastle under Lyme...
In my defence I've spent most of today in a sexual harassment seminar.0 -
Don’t forget that @HYUFD has assured us that Sunderland Central will go Tory.1
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Tory MPs now junking their speeches and retreating to generalised waffle0
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We can always hopeGallowgate said:I’ve got a feeling that this election is going to be a shitshow of epic proportions.
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Swinson?Gallowgate said:Don’t forget that @HYUFD has assured us that Sunderland Central will go Tory.
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Top tip, put the sexual harassment complaint forms in the bottom draw, that way you'll get a cracking view of their arse when they go to get one.ydoethur said:
I don’t know what’s more shocking about that post...the confusion over Newcastle under Lyme or the implication that you have seminars on sexually harassing people.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah I meant him and Staffordshire.ydoethur said:
I’ll buy it. Who is it?TheScreamingEagles said:
There's this chap in Stoke that's quite good and all One Nation Tories should support.Gallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
If you say ‘Tissue Price’ be aware that you have just condemned him to defeat at the hands of highly parochial and definitely non-Stoke voters in Newcastle under Lyme...
In my defence I've spent most of today in a sexual harassment seminar.
This seminar was so tedious, I would have eaten a pizza with a pineapple on it if it meant I could left earlier.0 -
There are so many things I could say to that, but I think I will just let it slide.....TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah I meant him and Staffordshire.ydoethur said:
I’ll buy it. Who is it?TheScreamingEagles said:
There's this chap in Stoke that's quite good and all One Nation Tories should support.Gallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
If you say ‘Tissue Price’ be aware that you have just condemned him to defeat at the hands of highly parochial and definitely non-Stoke voters in Newcastle under Lyme...
In my defence I've spent most of today in a sexual harassment seminar.0 -
Hammond has been deselected and lost the whip and will not be standing againGallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.0 -
Not me because I’m in exactly the same situation.ydoethur said:
You may have meant it, but as far as I can see you didn’t say it.The_Taxman said:I was referring to the two different seats of SOT central and SOT North. SOT has three seats. SOT Central is basically innercity. SOT North is partly innercity plus small towns and villages. The reason i mentioned these two seats was in response to hyufd saying the tories could pick up strong leave seats where Labour had the seats.
Indeed, on paper SOTS should be less amenable to the Tories than SOTN.
So I don’t see your point matches the facts. It’s me and Ystradgynlais all over again.
By the way, will I make people jealous if I say I’m outside on a balcony in shirtsleeves, shorts and sandals?
Just missed the Madeira Organ Festival, exasperatingly. And I need to be home by Sunday to play for Messy Church. I think “Messy Church” means I play Messiaen for the out voluntary, right?0 -
[Deleted]ydoethur said:
I don’t know what’s more shocking about that post...the confusion over Newcastle under Lyme or the implication that you have seminars on sexually harassing people.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah I meant him and Staffordshire.ydoethur said:
I’ll buy it. Who is it?TheScreamingEagles said:
There's this chap in Stoke that's quite good and all One Nation Tories should support.Gallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
If you say ‘Tissue Price’ be aware that you have just condemned him to defeat at the hands of highly parochial and definitely non-Stoke voters in Newcastle under Lyme...
In my defence I've spent most of today in a sexual harassment seminar.0 -
To be fair to Chris Grayling, he'd previously buggered up the criminal justice system, since when a fifth of murders are now down to prisoners on parole, so it is not like the PM had not been warned he was a liability.Casino_Royale said:Off topic, Chris Grayling has to be the worst transport secretary of all time.
He’s completely buggered up the railway network and franchising system and the price we’ll all be likely to pay now is nationalisation.0 -
That’s a fair point. Same with Farage in reverse. Johnson and Corbyn will be trading off opposition leaders like football stickers.Gallowgate said:
In Boris’s interest for Swinson to be there but not in Jezza’s.Time_to_Leave said:
That is an interesting question. Corbyn I guess has nothing to lose - what does Boris want and what does Boris do? Leadership campaign mk2 or does he have to embrace them to show he’s not May?Gallowgate said:Can’t wait for the next argument: TV debates.
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With hindsight, so should I have done...a grossly inappropriate comment made in reply to mine.Beibheirli_C said:
There are so many things I could say to that, but I think I will just let it slide.....TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah I meant him and Staffordshire.ydoethur said:
I’ll buy it. Who is it?TheScreamingEagles said:
There's this chap in Stoke that's quite good and all One Nation Tories should support.Gallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
If you say ‘Tissue Price’ be aware that you have just condemned him to defeat at the hands of highly parochial and definitely non-Stoke voters in Newcastle under Lyme...
In my defence I've spent most of today in a sexual harassment seminar.
Oh, and something about the forms going in the bottom drawer as well.1 -
It's a shame this seems true.
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Sunderland Central is 135th on the Tory target list, if Boris won Sunderland Central he would have a bigger majority than Blair did in 1997 so unlikelyGallowgate said:Don’t forget that @HYUFD has assured us that Sunderland Central will go Tory.
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Courageous prediction. They were a long way behind in 2017.timmo said:
LDs will.win GuildfordPeter_the_Punter said:
LDs have won Guildford before and it's pretty Remainy.Recidivist said:
Yes. I didn't get this first hand I'm afraid, but I have heard that the Lib Dems fancy their chances in Guildford. There aren't huge numbers of seats like Guildford of course, but even so the Tories can't really afford to go backwards.anothernick said:
Yes you can certainly make a case that remainers are more fired up - if there were 1m people motivated enough to turn up for a demo then perhaps 5 times that number are motivated enough to vote tactically? 5 million is a lot of votes, enough to swing many constituencies.Recidivist said:
Well they aren't marching at all are they. My point was that maybe Brexiters aren't as motivated as all that compared to leavers, so HYFUD may find that Brexit loses the Tories support in their normally strong areas without as much compensation in places that don't generally back them.Brom said:
The North certainly doesn't seem fussed about going on a People's Vote march that much is true.Recidivist said:
Will it be that symmetrical? I wonder. Apart from on BBC news broadcasts I haven't really picked up the feeling that people in the North are that fussed about Brexit. While my little home counties town supplied quite a contingent to the People's Vote march.HYUFD said:The Tories should be hoping to take all the strongest Leave voting seats and the LDs will equally be hoping to take the strongest Remain voting seats
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The mere mention of a Sunderland seat, and I go all misty eyed at the thought of sprinting students holding the ballot boxes.Gallowgate said:Don’t forget that @HYUFD has assured us that Sunderland Central will go Tory.
Cannot wait for this omnishambles to kick off.1 -
It's always fun until the results come in!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
The mere mention of a Sunderland seat, and I go all misty eyed at the thought of sprinting students holding the ballot boxes.Gallowgate said:Don’t forget that @HYUFD has assured us that Sunderland Central will go Tory.
Cannot wait for this omnishambles to kick off.
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Is it Andrea Jenkyns again?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.2 -
Yea thanks for that factoid.HYUFD said:
Hammond has been deselected and lost the whip and will not be standing againGallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.0 -
Of course.El_Capitano said:
Not me because I’m in exactly the same situation.ydoethur said:
You may have meant it, but as far as I can see you didn’t say it.The_Taxman said:I was referring to the two different seats of SOT central and SOT North. SOT has three seats. SOT Central is basically innercity. SOT North is partly innercity plus small towns and villages. The reason i mentioned these two seats was in response to hyufd saying the tories could pick up strong leave seats where Labour had the seats.
Indeed, on paper SOTS should be less amenable to the Tories than SOTN.
So I don’t see your point matches the facts. It’s me and Ystradgynlais all over again.
By the way, will I make people jealous if I say I’m outside on a balcony in shirtsleeves, shorts and sandals?
Just missed the Madeira Organ Festival, exasperatingly. And I need to be home by Sunday to play for Messy Church. I think “Messy Church” means I play Messiaen for the out voluntary, right?
And don’t forget to play Send in the Clowns as the minister arrives. That always gets a good laugh,,,1 -
Many years ago at a previous employer we had to do a questionnaire on the topic of 'sexual harassment hurts everyone' one question was 'Do you have a problem with a woman in a position of authority'? I replied with 'I've never had a problem with a woman in any position'ydoethur said:
With hindsight, so should I have done...a grossly inappropriate comment made in reply to mine.Beibheirli_C said:
There are so many things I could say to that, but I think I will just let it slide.....TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah I meant him and Staffordshire.ydoethur said:
I’ll buy it. Who is it?TheScreamingEagles said:
There's this chap in Stoke that's quite good and all One Nation Tories should support.Gallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
If you say ‘Tissue Price’ be aware that you have just condemned him to defeat at the hands of highly parochial and definitely non-Stoke voters in Newcastle under Lyme...
In my defence I've spent most of today in a sexual harassment seminar.
Oh, and something about the forms going in the bottom drawer as well.0 -
This debate has deflated suggesting the Sun rumour may be on the money0
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Assuming the Labour candidate in Morley & Outwood isn't an antisemite I'd vote Labour in that seat.SandyRentool said:
Is it Andrea Jenkyns again?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.0 -
Local factors have made the Tories really toxicRecidivist said:
Courageous prediction. They were a long way behind in 2017.timmo said:
LDs will.win GuildfordPeter_the_Punter said:
LDs have won Guildford before and it's pretty Remainy.Recidivist said:
Yes. I didn't get this first hand I'm afraid, but I have heard that the Lib Dems fancy their chances in Guildford. There aren't huge numbers of seats like Guildford of course, but even so the Tories can't really afford to go backwards.anothernick said:
Yes you can certainly make a case that remainers are more fired up - if there were 1m people motivated enough to turn up for a demo then perhaps 5 times that number are motivated enough to vote tactically? 5 million is a lot of votes, enough to swing many constituencies.Recidivist said:
Well they aren't marching at all are they. My point was that maybe Brexiters aren't as motivated as all that compared to leavers, so HYFUD may find that Brexit loses the Tories support in their normally strong areas without as much compensation in places that don't generally back them.Brom said:
The North certainly doesn't seem fussed about going on a People's Vote march that much is true.Recidivist said:
Will it be that symmetrical? I wonder. Apart from on BBC news broadcasts I haven't really picked up the feeling that people in the North are that fussed about Brexit. While my little home counties town supplied quite a contingent to the People's Vote march.HYUFD said:The Tories should be hoping to take all the strongest Leave voting seats and the LDs will equally be hoping to take the strongest Remain voting seats
Twill be an interesting election....0 -
The Tory party traditionally take women in a position of authority from behind.TheScreamingEagles said:
Many years ago at a previous employer we had to do a questionnaire on the topic of 'sexual harassment hurts everyone' one question was 'Do you have a problem with a woman in a position of authority'? I replied with 'I've never had a problem with a woman in any position'ydoethur said:
With hindsight, so should I have done...a grossly inappropriate comment made in reply to mine.Beibheirli_C said:
There are so many things I could say to that, but I think I will just let it slide.....TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah I meant him and Staffordshire.ydoethur said:
I’ll buy it. Who is it?TheScreamingEagles said:
There's this chap in Stoke that's quite good and all One Nation Tories should support.Gallowgate said:
Phil Hammond?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
If you say ‘Tissue Price’ be aware that you have just condemned him to defeat at the hands of highly parochial and definitely non-Stoke voters in Newcastle under Lyme...
In my defence I've spent most of today in a sexual harassment seminar.
Oh, and something about the forms going in the bottom drawer as well.
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I remember the Cleggasm - City of Durham, Blaydon and goodness knows where else all going to the LibDems. And of course Ealing Central, where they came third.Gallowgate said:
City of Durham also.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
North West Durham is interesting. Never gone Tory, sizeable LD vote prior to 2010.ydoethur said:
A few changes in Durham and Northumberland would do nobody any harm either. Pidcock, Lavery, et al are hardly ornaments to the Commons.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
I would love to see it.IanB2 said:
“Were you up for JRM?”ydoethur said:
I want to see several major upsets in London.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Me too, we could be in for a highly entertaining night, with a number of 1997 style oustings.Gallowgate said:Buzzing for this election.
In particular I want to see incumbents come third in Uxbridge, Hackney, both Islington seats and hopefully Chingford.
For balance, that tit in Brighton Kemptown needs to go, as well.0 -
Barbarism on the run as socialism continues its epic rise on both sides of the North Atlantic!
https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/1189210805809627141
Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!1 -
Never had the guts to do that! Our previous vicar got elevated to Archdeacon. She was a dedicated Trekkie, so at her final service I played her in to the Star Trek theme...ydoethur said:
Of course.El_Capitano said:
Not me because I’m in exactly the same situation.ydoethur said:
You may have meant it, but as far as I can see you didn’t say it.The_Taxman said:I was referring to the two different seats of SOT central and SOT North. SOT has three seats. SOT Central is basically innercity. SOT North is partly innercity plus small towns and villages. The reason i mentioned these two seats was in response to hyufd saying the tories could pick up strong leave seats where Labour had the seats.
Indeed, on paper SOTS should be less amenable to the Tories than SOTN.
So I don’t see your point matches the facts. It’s me and Ystradgynlais all over again.
By the way, will I make people jealous if I say I’m outside on a balcony in shirtsleeves, shorts and sandals?
Just missed the Madeira Organ Festival, exasperatingly. And I need to be home by Sunday to play for Messy Church. I think “Messy Church” means I play Messiaen for the out voluntary, right?
And don’t forget to play Send in the Clowns as the minister arrives. That always gets a good laugh,,,1 -
Don't forget some Lib Dems were talking about gaining Witney in 2010.SandyRentool said:
I remember the Cleggasm - City of Durham, Blaydon and goodness knows where else all going to the LibDems. And of course Ealing Central, where they came third.Gallowgate said:
City of Durham also.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
North West Durham is interesting. Never gone Tory, sizeable LD vote prior to 2010.ydoethur said:
A few changes in Durham and Northumberland would do nobody any harm either. Pidcock, Lavery, et al are hardly ornaments to the Commons.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
I would love to see it.IanB2 said:
“Were you up for JRM?”ydoethur said:
I want to see several major upsets in London.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Me too, we could be in for a highly entertaining night, with a number of 1997 style oustings.Gallowgate said:Buzzing for this election.
In particular I want to see incumbents come third in Uxbridge, Hackney, both Islington seats and hopefully Chingford.
For balance, that tit in Brighton Kemptown needs to go, as well.0 -
Donald Tusk will be retiring at the end of November .
He will be sadly missed by Remainers .
He was always on our side and passionately believed in all that’s good about working together and being part of that bigger European family .
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Looks like it, given the speed that all the false puffery against the 9th from Tory MPs just went, well, puff.CatMan said:0 -
An election on a Monday - ugh. That’s an outrage.0
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Imagine being a PBer who had actually voted for Jenkyns. Twice and counting...TheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming the Labour candidate in Morley & Outwood isn't an antisemite I'd vote Labour in that seat.SandyRentool said:
Is it Andrea Jenkyns again?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.0 -
Donald Tusk was impressive. Hard to imagine his successor will do better.nico67 said:Donald Tusk will be retiring at the end of November .
He will be sadly missed by Remainers .
He was always on our side and passionately believed in all that’s good about working together and being part of that bigger European family .
This lady replacing Juncker, on the other hand, will only have to stand upright without swaying to be a distinct improvement.0 -
MNF - West Ham v Arsenal. I wonder if they could put the Exit Poll on the big screen at the end of the game?CatMan said:1 -
So Bozo has a day less than we would have had, had he voted for the 9th yesterday.0
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Or the exit poll!kle4 said:
It's always fun until the results come in!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
The mere mention of a Sunderland seat, and I go all misty eyed at the thought of sprinting students holding the ballot boxes.Gallowgate said:Don’t forget that @HYUFD has assured us that Sunderland Central will go Tory.
Cannot wait for this omnishambles to kick off.0 -
First time not on a Thursday since 1931.Anabobazina said:An election on a Monday - ugh. That’s an outrage.
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More interested to see how many former LD voters 'return' to them, having stayed away post coalition. That, coupled with the impact of BXP candidates, may lead to some unexpected seats changing hands Lab >Tory and vice versa.TheScreamingEagles said:
Don't forget some Lib Dems were talking about gaining Witney in 2010.SandyRentool said:
I remember the Cleggasm - City of Durham, Blaydon and goodness knows where else all going to the LibDems. And of course Ealing Central, where they came third.Gallowgate said:
City of Durham also.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
North West Durham is interesting. Never gone Tory, sizeable LD vote prior to 2010.ydoethur said:
A few changes in Durham and Northumberland would do nobody any harm either. Pidcock, Lavery, et al are hardly ornaments to the Commons.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
I would love to see it.IanB2 said:
“Were you up for JRM?”ydoethur said:
I want to see several major upsets in London.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Me too, we could be in for a highly entertaining night, with a number of 1997 style oustings.Gallowgate said:Buzzing for this election.
In particular I want to see incumbents come third in Uxbridge, Hackney, both Islington seats and hopefully Chingford.
For balance, that tit in Brighton Kemptown needs to go, as well.
I'm not expecting to see PM Swinson, and the SNP will throw everything at it to try and unseat her.0 -
Yeah was a nice last message from him as well, we were lucky to have him in place.nico67 said:Donald Tusk will be retiring at the end of November .
He will be sadly missed by Remainers .
He was always on our side and passionately believed in all that’s good about working together and being part of that bigger European family .0 -
Reinstating the “Remoaners” is going down very badly with Con/BXP floating activists on social media.0
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Socialism on the rise amongst Democratic and Labour voters is not the same as Socialism being on the rise amongst all voters (good poll for Bernie and Warren though)TheJezziah said:Barbarism on the run as socialism continues its epic rise on both sides of the North Atlantic!
https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/1189210805809627141
Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!0 -
Who is the strange woman from labour on ch4 news at the moment?0
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One of the nice little gems from Cameron's memoirs is that both he and Merkel were not keen on Juncker's appointment. Hindsight suggests their misgivings were justified.ydoethur said:
Donald Tusk was impressive. Hard to imagine his successor will do better.nico67 said:Donald Tusk will be retiring at the end of November .
He will be sadly missed by Remainers .
He was always on our side and passionately believed in all that’s good about working together and being part of that bigger European family .
This lady replacing Juncker, on the other hand, will only have to stand upright without swaying to be a distinct improvement.0 -
If you prefer to vote for a Corbyn Labour candidate over a Tory shows you have finally burnt your bridges with the partyTheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming the Labour candidate in Morley & Outwood isn't an antisemite I'd vote Labour in that seat.SandyRentool said:
Is it Andrea Jenkyns again?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.0 -
She seems like a pretty bog-standard former union rep from central casting.TheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming the Labour candidate in Morley & Outwood isn't an antisemite I'd vote Labour in that seat.SandyRentool said:
Is it Andrea Jenkyns again?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
https://labourlist.org/2018/03/trade-union-organiser-to-contest-ed-balls-old-seat-of-morley-and-outwood/0 -
If someone in September would have offered me an extension to January 31st , a deal and an election I would have banked that .
My worst nightmare was a no deal , or no negotiated deal and Bozo trashing the EU in an election and destroying future relations .
This way Remainers get one last chance however small , and if it doesn’t happen then leaving with a deal I can accept and move on.1 -
Not all of them, only those who voted for the Boris Deal and against amending itwilliamglenn said:Reinstating the “Remoaners” is going down very badly with Con/BXP floating activists on social media.
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Oh behave you human dildo.HYUFD said:
If you prefer to vote for a Corbyn Labour candidate over a Tory shows you have finally burnt your bridges with the partyTheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming the Labour candidate in Morley & Outwood isn't an antisemite I'd vote Labour in that seat.SandyRentool said:
Is it Andrea Jenkyns again?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testify, although I shall be campaigning for a Tory in this election campaign, just one.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Good but no Ken Clarke means No rejoining the Tory party for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm less worried about Grieve or Letwin.... would prefer Phil back in.
I've said I should be campaigning for a Tory candidate in this election.0 -
Who is the LD candidate for Cambridge ? Huppert ?0
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Pink jacket stilted northern accent JC devotee none of which is wrong but I decided to not get up to look at the tv.0
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A drunken oaf dismissed as PM of Luxembourg after his security service was caught rigging elections and who made his country a byword for tax fraud might not have been the smart choice? Who would have thought that, eh?Peter_the_Punter said:
One of the nice little gems from Cameron's memoirs is that both he and Merkel were not keen on Juncker's appointment. Hindsight suggests their misgivings were justified.ydoethur said:
Donald Tusk was impressive. Hard to imagine his successor will do better.nico67 said:Donald Tusk will be retiring at the end of November .
He will be sadly missed by Remainers .
He was always on our side and passionately believed in all that’s good about working together and being part of that bigger European family .
This lady replacing Juncker, on the other hand, will only have to stand upright without swaying to be a distinct improvement.
Which begs the question - why did Merkel not block him if she realised this? I suspect she was merely urbanely agreeing with Cameron to his face to try and change his mind, rather than saying what she thought. If she had had misgivings, Juncker would have been discarded faster than a Labour MP caught talking common sense.0 -
In that case, perhaps he could reinstate a few more?HYUFD said:
Not all of them, only those who voted for the Boris Deal and against amending itwilliamglenn said:Reinstating the “Remoaners” is going down very badly with Con/BXP floating activists on social media.
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Talking of Blair; Sedgefield might be interesting.HYUFD said:
Sunderland Central is 135th on the Tory target list, if Boris won Sunderland Central he would have a bigger majority than Blair did in 1997 so unlikelyGallowgate said:Don’t forget that @HYUFD has assured us that Sunderland Central will go Tory.
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So how many Tory MPs with the whip do we go into the election with?0
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A YouGov pollster tweets, in a private capacity.
https://twitter.com/chriscurtis94/status/11891568203734589550