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It’s done by statutory instrument . It’s not amendable , MPs and the HOL vote.MTimT said:Honest question. Given the law of the land is the UK leaves the EU on 29 March, what legislation is required for May to extended Article 50? Can she just do it, or does she need the House to pass something?
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The UK exit date was based on EU law.Harris_Tweed said:That’s EU law, not UK
We are not leaving on the 29th. That is not the law, in the UK or the EU.0 -
Doesn't it still have to be changed on the UK side?Scott_P said:
The UK exit date was based on EU law.Harris_Tweed said:That’s EU law, not UK
We are not leaving on the 29th. That is not the law, in the UK or the EU.0 -
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Indeed.Pulpstar said:Remain probably means the ERG will win the war within the Tories to be honest.
Which means that the next Conservative government would take the UK straight out of the EU without even attempting any negotiations.0 -
Article 50 has been extended. The EU and the UK have both agreed it.
We can't legally leave on the 29th0 -
But the UK law currently says the 1972 Act is repealed and we bugger off at 11pm next Friday. That was drawn from EU law, but has to be changed by a minister under an SI passed by both Houses. It will be done but hasn’t yet.Scott_P said:
The UK exit date was based on EU law.Harris_Tweed said:That’s EU law, not UK
We are not leaving on the 29th. That is not the law, in the UK or the EU.0 -
Mr Meeks. Your objection continues to be that people shouldn't vote badly. I agree, but they do, and often.AlastairMeeks said:
There is no debate on the result of the 2016 referendum. It is what it is.
We need to find a path that is consistent with the EUref. That's it. That's what we need to do.
Our MPs wish to arse about. Hopeless idiots generally. I have your card marked as of better stuff.
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We have officially extended article 50. We are still members of the EU next Saturday.Harris_Tweed said:But the UK law currently says the 1972 Act is repealed and we bugger off at 11pm next Friday. That was drawn from EU law, but has to be changed by a minister under an SI passed by both Houses. It will be done but hasn’t yet.
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Englands front line is going to be a bit special in a couple of years. Hudson-odi, Sancho, sterling, rashford, foden...0
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The worst kind of shroud waving. Brexit could cause a range of supply chain challenges, but the EpiPen shortage has been going on for some time, is global, and relates to flaws in the safety measures used during the manufacturing process, nothing to do with Brexit (indeed how would it have buggered the supply chain, we remain in the EU).AlastairMeeks said:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(18)30344-4/fulltext0 -
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Spoiler.....Alanbrooke said:Penalty
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It’s consistent with the EU ref to reconsider leaving. Voting leave in order to end up remaining was actively promoted by several Leave campaigners.Omnium said:
Mr Meeks. Your objection continues to be that people shouldn't vote badly. I agree, but they do, and often.AlastairMeeks said:
There is no debate on the result of the 2016 referendum. It is what it is.
We need to find a path that is consistent with the EUref. That's it. That's what we need to do.
Our MPs wish to arse about. Hopeless idiots generally. I have your card marked as of better stuff.0 -
Yes, it still has to be changed. However, failing to change it wouldn't result in Britain leaving the EU, it would result in it having all kinds of broken laws that assumed it had left the EU when it hadn't.RobD said:
Doesn't it still have to be changed on the UK side?Scott_P said:
The UK exit date was based on EU law.Harris_Tweed said:That’s EU law, not UK
We are not leaving on the 29th. That is not the law, in the UK or the EU.0 -
Oh, for God's sake, the trifling things people will fuss about.AlastairMeeks said:
We're talking about freedom, liberty, self-determination - TAKING BACK CONTROL. Whole political careers are here for the making. Please don't give us boring stuff about sick kids ...0 -
If there are going to be indicative votes then this position could be interesting. Watson telling his new group to support second ref and Corbyn saying do not support it. Could be the start of some more friction in the PLP.williamglenn said:0 -
Have you just won £1000? If yes, congratulations on the of the most impressive bets in pb history.williamglenn said:
It’s consistent with the EU ref to reconsider leaving. Voting leave in order to end up remaining was actively promoted by several Leave campaigners.Omnium said:
Mr Meeks. Your objection continues to be that people shouldn't vote badly. I agree, but they do, and often.AlastairMeeks said:
There is no debate on the result of the 2016 referendum. It is what it is.
We need to find a path that is consistent with the EUref. That's it. That's what we need to do.
Our MPs wish to arse about. Hopeless idiots generally. I have your card marked as of better stuff.0 -
I am always saddened when physically in places where fictional people lived. I've been in Cricklewood (Goodies) Surbiton (Good Life) University of East Anglia (A Very Peculiar Practice and - I shit you not - Avengers HQ) and they did not live up to their reputation, being almost entirely lacking in trandems, compost, and Thors.bigjohnowls said:
Truth or Dare.viewcode said:
Brooke-Taylor. Garden. Oddie.Casino_Royale said:
Cleese. Milligan. Everett.matt said:
Spotify. Apple Music. Tidal.Casino_Royale said:
You wot?matt said:
People buy music on iTunes? How quaint.Casino_Royale said:I just bought Spice by the Spice Girls on iTunes.
Sessions.
Cricklewood.
My Turn.
I own a Goodies album and 2 Goodies singles.
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You can't translate the views of people that also voted this way to those of all that did. 'several' in 17.4m isn't much of a splash.williamglenn said:
It’s consistent with the EU ref to reconsider leaving. Voting leave in order to end up remaining was actively promoted by several Leave campaigners.Omnium said:
Mr Meeks. Your objection continues to be that people shouldn't vote badly. I agree, but they do, and often.AlastairMeeks said:
There is no debate on the result of the 2016 referendum. It is what it is.
We need to find a path that is consistent with the EUref. That's it. That's what we need to do.
Our MPs wish to arse about. Hopeless idiots generally. I have your card marked as of better stuff.
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Section 1 that repeals the 1972 Act is still showing as prospective at http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2018/16/crossheading/repeal-of-the-eca so no ministerial order to bring it into force has yet been made.edmundintokyo said:
Yes, it still has to be changed. However, failing to change it wouldn't result in Britain leaving the EU, it would result in it having all kinds of broken laws that assumed it had left the EU when it hadn't.RobD said:
Doesn't it still have to be changed on the UK side?Harris_Tweed said:
But the UK law currently says the 1972 Act is repealed and we bugger off at 11pm next Friday. That was drawn from EU law, but has to be changed by a minister under an SI passed by both Houses. It will be done but hasn’t yet.Scott_P said:
The UK exit date was based on EU law.Harris_Tweed said:That’s EU law, not UK
We are not leaving on the 29th. That is not the law, in the UK or the EU.0 -
You're presumably right, although who knows what Bercow would decide was amendable thesedays.nico67 said:
It’s done by statutory instrument . It’s not amendable , MPs and the HOL vote.MTimT said:Honest question. Given the law of the land is the UK leaves the EU on 29 March, what legislation is required for May to extended Article 50? Can she just do it, or does she need the House to pass something?
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Sadly it's "end of 2019", not "on schedule".Ishmael_Z said:
Have you just won £1000? If yes, congratulations on the of the most impressive bets in pb history.williamglenn said:
It’s consistent with the EU ref to reconsider leaving. Voting leave in order to end up remaining was actively promoted by several Leave campaigners.Omnium said:
Mr Meeks. Your objection continues to be that people shouldn't vote badly. I agree, but they do, and often.AlastairMeeks said:
There is no debate on the result of the 2016 referendum. It is what it is.
We need to find a path that is consistent with the EUref. That's it. That's what we need to do.
Our MPs wish to arse about. Hopeless idiots generally. I have your card marked as of better stuff.0 -
Not quite yet. The bet was that we would still be in the EU at the end of 2019.Ishmael_Z said:
Have you just won £1000? If yes, congratulations on the of the most impressive bets in pb history.williamglenn said:
It’s consistent with the EU ref to reconsider leaving. Voting leave in order to end up remaining was actively promoted by several Leave campaigners.Omnium said:
Mr Meeks. Your objection continues to be that people shouldn't vote badly. I agree, but they do, and often.AlastairMeeks said:
There is no debate on the result of the 2016 referendum. It is what it is.
We need to find a path that is consistent with the EUref. That's it. That's what we need to do.
Our MPs wish to arse about. Hopeless idiots generally. I have your card marked as of better stuff.0 -
Ah.viewcode said:
Sadly it's "end of 2019", not "on schedule".Ishmael_Z said:
Have you just won £1000? If yes, congratulations on the of the most impressive bets in pb history.williamglenn said:
It’s consistent with the EU ref to reconsider leaving. Voting leave in order to end up remaining was actively promoted by several Leave campaigners.Omnium said:
Mr Meeks. Your objection continues to be that people shouldn't vote badly. I agree, but they do, and often.AlastairMeeks said:
There is no debate on the result of the 2016 referendum. It is what it is.
We need to find a path that is consistent with the EUref. That's it. That's what we need to do.
Our MPs wish to arse about. Hopeless idiots generally. I have your card marked as of better stuff.0 -
IIRC UEA wouldn't let them film A Very Peculiar Practice there, although the series was indeed based on that university. (I think it was mostly filmed at Birmingham University.) . Similarly the location scouts couldn't find anywhere in Surbiton that they felt was posh enough for the Goods and Ledbetters and it was actually filmed in Harrow. Surbiton is my home town and I grew up near The Avenue, which is a real street but not as leafy as portrayed in the show.viewcode said:
I am always saddened when physically in places where fictional people lived. I've been in Cricklewood (Goodies) Surbiton (Good Life) University of East Anglia (A Very Peculiar Practice and - I shit you not - Avengers HQ) and they did not live up to their reputation, being almost entirely lacking in trandems, compost, and Thors.bigjohnowls said:
Truth or Dare.viewcode said:
Brooke-Taylor. Garden. Oddie.Casino_Royale said:
Cleese. Milligan. Everett.matt said:
Spotify. Apple Music. Tidal.Casino_Royale said:
You wot?matt said:
People buy music on iTunes? How quaint.Casino_Royale said:I just bought Spice by the Spice Girls on iTunes.
Sessions.
Cricklewood.
My Turn.
I own a Goodies album and 2 Goodies singles.
Who is next?0 -
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My guess is that you still have a decent chance, when we ask for the longer extension May wanted to seek yesterday, in early April. But you may need to argue that the bet should be decided - like Brexit itself - working from the European timezone.williamglenn said:
Not quite yet. The bet was that we would still be in the EU at the end of 2019.Ishmael_Z said:
Have you just won £1000? If yes, congratulations on the of the most impressive bets in pb history.williamglenn said:
It’s consistent with the EU ref to reconsider leaving. Voting leave in order to end up remaining was actively promoted by several Leave campaigners.Omnium said:
Mr Meeks. Your objection continues to be that people shouldn't vote badly. I agree, but they do, and often.AlastairMeeks said:
There is no debate on the result of the 2016 referendum. It is what it is.
We need to find a path that is consistent with the EUref. That's it. That's what we need to do.
Our MPs wish to arse about. Hopeless idiots generally. I have your card marked as of better stuff.0 -
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Francis
Another clinical performance so far under Gareth. Enjoyed the first half. The youth, the pace, and the potential of the squad is fantastic.0 -
Some of A Very Peculiar Practice was filmed at Keele, which the University was still talking about when I was there in the early 90s.rpjs said:
IIRC UEA wouldn't let them film A Very Peculiar Practice there, although the series was indeed based on that university. (I think it was mostly filmed at Birmingham University.) . Similarly the location scouts couldn't find anywhere in Surbiton that they felt was posh enough for the Goods and Ledbetters and it was actually filmed in Harrow. Surbiton is my home town and I grew up near The Avenue, which is a real street but not as leafy as portrayed in the show.viewcode said:
I am always saddened when physically in places where fictional people lived. I've been in Cricklewood (Goodies) Surbiton (Good Life) University of East Anglia (A Very Peculiar Practice and - I shit you not - Avengers HQ) and they did not live up to their reputation, being almost entirely lacking in trandems, compost, and Thors.bigjohnowls said:
Truth or Dare.viewcode said:
Brooke-Taylor. Garden. Oddie.Casino_Royale said:
Cleese. Milligan. Everett.matt said:
Spotify. Apple Music. Tidal.Casino_Royale said:
You wot?matt said:
People buy music on iTunes? How quaint.Casino_Royale said:I just bought Spice by the Spice Girls on iTunes.
Sessions.
Cricklewood.
My Turn.
I own a Goodies album and 2 Goodies singles.
Who is next?0 -
She has up to the April date, max. Unless the deal passes, which it won't, in which case she might make it to the end of June while the Tories pick a new leader.Scott_P said:0 -
The HQ building of Reggie Perrin's Grot business in Hangar Lane is however suitably grotty nowadays.viewcode said:
I am always saddened when physically in places where fictional people lived. I've been in Cricklewood (Goodies) Surbiton (Good Life) University of East Anglia (A Very Peculiar Practice and - I shit you not - Avengers HQ) and they did not live up to their reputation, being almost entirely lacking in trandems, compost, and Thors.bigjohnowls said:
Truth or Dare.viewcode said:
Brooke-Taylor. Garden. Oddie.Casino_Royale said:
Cleese. Milligan. Everett.matt said:
Spotify. Apple Music. Tidal.Casino_Royale said:
You wot?matt said:
People buy music on iTunes? How quaint.Casino_Royale said:I just bought Spice by the Spice Girls on iTunes.
Sessions.
Cricklewood.
My Turn.
I own a Goodies album and 2 Goodies singles.
Who is next?0 -
It’s never awesome to fly to Atlanta.FF43 said:A propos of nothing at all, I this picture
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You keep saying this but I don't know why - the SI needs to be voted on - de facto you are correct that the UK won't leave on the 29th but there really is a reason the govt will be introducing an SI probably on Monday, it's not for laughs - and I just don't get your rationale for denying it, it's odd. Nobody has denied your point that the UK will still be a member of the EU after 29 March, just some people have gently pointed out you are mistaken about the need for further legal activity.Scott_P said:
We are not leaving on the 29th,kingbongo said:no they aren't!!!! A Statutory Instrument is required on the UK side - it will happen and the HoC will approve it but it isn't done yet.
That is done.
The new date has not yet been set0 -
I may be wrong but I think the EU Withdrawal Act, which hasn't yet got the memo about Exit Day changing, automatically repeals that on Exit Day.rpjs said:
Section 1 that repeals the 1972 Act is still showing as prospective at http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2018/16/crossheading/repeal-of-the-eca so no ministerial order to bring it into force has yet been made.edmundintokyo said:
Yes, it still has to be changed. However, failing to change it wouldn't result in Britain leaving the EU, it would result in it having all kinds of broken laws that assumed it had left the EU when it hadn't.RobD said:
Doesn't it still have to be changed on the UK side?Harris_Tweed said:
But the UK law currently says the 1972 Act is repealed and we bugger off at 11pm next Friday. That was drawn from EU law, but has to be changed by a minister under an SI passed by both Houses. It will be done but hasn’t yet.Scott_P said:
The UK exit date was based on EU law.Harris_Tweed said:That’s EU law, not UK
We are not leaving on the 29th. That is not the law, in the UK or the EU.0 -
Update on those pro Brexit road protests, which are going about as well as the march:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/m4-brexit-truckers-protest-motorways-16015371?utm_source=facebook, twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wales_jason0 -
Baker Street is the greatest non-event in visiting fictional locations. However simply given its so uninteresting you're naturally drawn to suspect! But suspect what Watson!?0
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Here is the original question I responded tokingbongo said:You keep saying this but I don't know why - the SI needs to be voted on - de facto you are correct that the UK won't leave on the 29th but there really is a reason the govt will be introducing an SI probably on Monday, it's not for laughs - and I just don't get your rationale for denying it, it's odd. Nobody has denied your point that the UK will still be a member of the EU after 29 March, just some people have gently pointed out you are mistaken about the need for further legal activity.
No legislation is required to extend Article 50. We have extended Article 50.MTimT said:Honest question. Given the law of the land is the UK leaves the EU on 29 March, what legislation is required for May to extended Article 50? Can she just do it, or does she need the House to pass something?
No votes were taken, and yet it happened.
We will not leave on the 29th.
I don't know how much clearer I can make it.0 -
I heard the the Minister of State at the Foreign Office Tobias Ellwood gamely plugging away for her on R4 earlier.kle4 said:
She has up to the April date, max. Unless the deal passes, which it won't, in which case she might make it to the end of June while the Tories pick a new leader.Scott_P said:0 -
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i have memories of looking out the window and looking at 4 planes land at the same time. it was a new experience for me. I had never seen that before.matt said:
It’s never awesome to fly to Atlanta.FF43 said:A propos of nothing at all, I this picture
https://twitter.com/ERAUWatret/status/11070871437705134080 -
Peak PB.edmundintokyo said:
I may be wrong but I think the EU Withdrawal Act, which hasn't yet got the memo about Exit Day changing, automatically repeals that on Exit Day.rpjs said:
Section 1 that repeals the 1972 Act is still showing as prospective at http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2018/16/crossheading/repeal-of-the-eca so no ministerial order to bring it into force has yet been made.edmundintokyo said:
Yes, it still has to be changed. However, failing to change it wouldn't result in Britain leaving the EU, it would result in it having all kinds of broken laws that assumed it had left the EU when it hadn't.RobD said:
Doesn't it still have to be changed on the UK side?Harris_Tweed said:
But the UK law currently says the 1972 Act is repealed and we bugger off at 11pm next Friday. That was drawn from EU law, but has to be changed by a minister under an SI passed by both Houses. It will be done but hasn’t yet.Scott_P said:
The UK exit date was based on EU law.Harris_Tweed said:That’s EU law, not UK
We are not leaving on the 29th. That is not the law, in the UK or the EU.0 -
Nothing has really leaked from the investigation remarkably, Mueller has run a tight shipScott_P said:0 -
It will leak...Scott_P said:0 -
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that is just a sublime finish from Sterling0
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The pathetic commentators on ITV couldn't say which Czech players were kicking the ball. In years gone by memorizing the teams was part of their craft.0
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Possible snag: there is no guillotine in the Lords, so a handful for hard Brexiteers might filibuster it if it was laid close to March 29, in which case we'd crash out even if the Commons voted 5-1 to stay. Would conclude the episode in a suitably farcical manner.Harris_Tweed said:
The EUWA says a minister can change Exit Day ‘by regulation’, which others on here think requires a simple vote of both Houses (and it was touted for Monday last time I saw). I’d expect only the hardline antis to vote against, no?MTimT said:Honest question. Given the law of the land is the UK leaves the EU on 29 March, what legislation is required for May to extended Article 50? Can she just do it, or does she need the House to pass something?
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I expect the ERG usual suspects will oppose the neutral programme motion on Monday noting the outcome of the summit, so they'll have their chance to register their opposition.Scott_P said:
Here is the original question I responded tokingbongo said:You keep saying this but I don't know why - the SI needs to be voted on - de facto you are correct that the UK won't leave on the 29th but there really is a reason the govt will be introducing an SI probably on Monday, it's not for laughs - and I just don't get your rationale for denying it, it's odd. Nobody has denied your point that the UK will still be a member of the EU after 29 March, just some people have gently pointed out you are mistaken about the need for further legal activity.
No legislation is required to extend Article 50. We have extended Article 50.MTimT said:Honest question. Given the law of the land is the UK leaves the EU on 29 March, what legislation is required for May to extended Article 50? Can she just do it, or does she need the House to pass something?
No votes were taken, and yet it happened.
We will not leave on the 29th.
I don't know how much clearer I can make it.0 -
ITV coverage has been absymal for years.geoffw said:The pathetic commentators on ITV couldn't say which Czech players were kicking the ball. In years gone by memorizing the teams was part of their craft.
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Busiest airport in the world, 107 million passengers last year.matt said:
It’s never awesome to fly to Atlanta.FF43 said:A propos of nothing at all, I this picture
https://twitter.com/ERAUWatret/status/11070871437705134080 -
Brilliant - he's been exceptional tonight. Tough one for the Daily Mail sports writers._Anazina_ said:that is just a sublime finish from Sterling
Edit: As I typed that, hat trick. Superb.0 -
Well, indeed.
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We have extended Article 50 to an unspecified date.NickPalmer said:Possible snag: there is no guillotine in the Lords, so a handful for hard Brexiteers might filibuster it if it was laid close to March 29, in which case we'd crash out even if the Commons voted 5-1 to stay. Would conclude the episode in a suitably farcical manner.
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The value of sterling must be approaching an all time high0
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Even though May has annoyed the hell out of me and I have little time for her I still can’t help feeling sympathy at times for her .
I keep questioning how on earth I should even feel this . It’s bizarre . She almost has become a tragic figure , without allies .
Her WA in terms of an orderly departure isn’t bad. I think if one is honest no one could have done much better.
My biggest problem is her failure to make any efforts to unite the country . Indeed she became a hostage of her Remain vote and over compensated . She allowed the ERG and right wing press to drive her into bad decisions . She put down red lines without seeing the pitfalls further down the line .
The country is hopelessly divided , I’ve never seen the country in such a horrible mess . It’s sad to see so much anger , with friends falling out , families at war .
When the country needed someone who would make a red line of unifying , instead May stood by and let the divisions grow and sometimes added to them .
Indeed if she had said my red line is that , I think many would have applauded her regardless of how they voted in the EU ref .
Because she never did that and ignored Remainers , she essentially said you lost suck it up and you’re not important . The only people that matter are Leavers , ignoring the 48% who felt they were written out of their own future .
This has just entrenched Remainers . Many who were initially willing to accept the result , wanted to feel that the country still belonged to them as much as Leavers.
The ERG are also to blame because they’ve hijacked the vote to deliver a narrative that only their version of pure Brexit will do . The media have played along , failing to hold them to account , allowing them to deliver a constant barrage of misinformation such as the Article 24 of GATT WTO . Which they peddle even though they know it’s a lie and have been told so by trade experts .
Remainers don’t want a UK delivered by ERG . That is not a country that we can accept. The fear of the capitalists on steroids , the destruction of the welfare state etc is why many Remainers have said enough is enough .
I still hope that a way forward can be found that can heal some of the divisions but it’s really hard to see how .
I’m not really angry now just sad at what’s happened to the UK .
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Atlanta is an awful city, I’ve no idea why anyone would want to live there.matt said:
It’s never awesome to fly to Atlanta.FF43 said:A propos of nothing at all, I this picture
https://twitter.com/ERAUWatret/status/1107087143770513408
However, it does have The Optimist, which is a superb seafood restaurant and would almost certainly be starred were it in a more Michelin-friendly locale.0 -
It didn't look much different from when I was there in the 60s.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Some of A Very Peculiar Practice was filmed at Keele, which the University was still talking about when I was there in the early 90s.rpjs said:
IIRC UEA wouldn't let them film A Very Peculiar Practice there, although the series was indeed based on that university. (I think it was mostly filmed at Birmingham University.) . Similarly the location scouts couldn't find anywhere in Surbiton that they felt was posh enough for the Goods and Ledbetters and it was actually filmed in Harrow. Surbiton is my home town and I grew up near The Avenue, which is a real street but not as leafy as portrayed in the show.viewcode said:
I am always saddened when physically in places where fictional people lived. I've been in Cricklewood (Goodies) Surbiton (Good Life) University of East Anglia (A Very Peculiar Practice and - I shit you not - Avengers HQ) and they did not live up to their reputation, being almost entirely lacking in trandems, compost, and Thors.bigjohnowls said:
Truth or Dare.viewcode said:
Brooke-Taylor. Garden. Oddie.Casino_Royale said:
Cleese. Milligan. Everett.matt said:
Spotify. Apple Music. Tidal.Casino_Royale said:
You wot?matt said:
People buy music on iTunes? How quaint.Casino_Royale said:I just bought Spice by the Spice Girls on iTunes.
Sessions.
Cricklewood.
My Turn.
I own a Goodies album and 2 Goodies singles.
Who is next?
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Yeah, nothing to do with Brexit, but a real pharma scandal. Epipens have a worrying failure rate, are ridiculously expensive and now a shortage item.oldpolitics said:
The worst kind of shroud waving. Brexit could cause a range of supply chain challenges, but the EpiPen shortage has been going on for some time, is global, and relates to flaws in the safety measures used during the manufacturing process, nothing to do with Brexit (indeed how would it have buggered the supply chain, we remain in the EU).AlastairMeeks said:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(18)30344-4/fulltext0 -
Yeah because all those signatures are unique and real voters who didn't vote last time.Scott_P said:
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That ring road...what a f##king nightmare._Anazina_ said:
Atlanta is an awful city, I’ve no idea why anyone would want to live there.matt said:
It’s never awesome to fly to Atlanta.FF43 said:A propos of nothing at all, I this picture
https://twitter.com/ERAUWatret/status/1107087143770513408
However, it does have The Optimist, which is a superb seafood restaurant and would almost certainly be starred were it in a more Michelin-friendly locale.0 -
Geoff
I noticed that - very poor as you say and disrespectful to our opponents.0 -
Who to believe? Scott or Dr Palmer?Scott_P said:
We have extended Article 50 to an unspecified date.NickPalmer said:Possible snag: there is no guillotine in the Lords, so a handful for hard Brexiteers might filibuster it if it was laid close to March 29, in which case we'd crash out even if the Commons voted 5-1 to stay. Would conclude the episode in a suitably farcical manner.
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If you are a concerned citizen worried about climate change are you a citizen of the world?0
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Sir Tim Barrow...GIN1138 said:Who to believe? Scott or Dr Palmer?
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/11091356058988871680 -
Unless the public give the wrong answer of courseScott_P said:0 -
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The HOL can change the rules to stop a filibuster and if the Commons pass it then anyone in the HOL trying to force a no deal would be in big trouble !NickPalmer said:
Possible snag: there is no guillotine in the Lords, so a handful for hard Brexiteers might filibuster it if it was laid close to March 29, in which case we'd crash out even if the Commons voted 5-1 to stay. Would conclude the episode in a suitably farcical manner.Harris_Tweed said:
The EUWA says a minister can change Exit Day ‘by regulation’, which others on here think requires a simple vote of both Houses (and it was touted for Monday last time I saw). I’d expect only the hardline antis to vote against, no?MTimT said:Honest question. Given the law of the land is the UK leaves the EU on 29 March, what legislation is required for May to extended Article 50? Can she just do it, or does she need the House to pass something?
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Bad news for Casino. He takes up a lot of space so it will make it look like there are more people.williamglenn said:0 -
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Lots of us think we're citizens of the world, though it's a bit pompous to say so. May's speech explicitly associates that with four examples of bad behaviour, in order to seek party political advantage.Charles said:
Genuine question: which bit?
The first 4 paragraphs are, IMV, fairly close to apple pie.
The 4 specific examples seem self-evidently examples of bad behaviour
It’s only paragraphs 5 & 6 that could be remotely controversial
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It's almost funny how stupid you make yourself look at times.Chris said:
Oh, for God's sake, the trifling things people will fuss about.AlastairMeeks said:
We're talking about freedom, liberty, self-determination - TAKING BACK CONTROL. Whole political careers are here for the making. Please don't give us boring stuff about sick kids ...
As you may have seen this story actually has NOTHING at all to do with brexit.0 -
Only. If. Section. One. Is. COMMENCED.edmundintokyo said:
I may be wrong but I think the EU Withdrawal Act, which hasn't yet got the memo about Exit Day changing, automatically repeals that on Exit Day.rpjs said:
Section 1 that repeals the 1972 Act is still showing as prospective at http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2018/16/crossheading/repeal-of-the-eca so no ministerial order to bring it into force has yet been made.edmundintokyo said:
Yes, it still has to be changed. However, failing to change it wouldn't result in Britain leaving the EU, it would result in it having all kinds of broken laws that assumed it had left the EU when it hadn't.RobD said:
Doesn't it still have to be changed on the UK side?Harris_Tweed said:
But the UK law currently says the 1972 Act is repealed and we bugger off at 11pm next Friday. That was drawn from EU law, but has to be changed by a minister under an SI passed by both Houses. It will be done but hasn’t yet.Scott_P said:
The UK exit date was based on EU law.Harris_Tweed said:That’s EU law, not UK
We are not leaving on the 29th. That is not the law, in the UK or the EU.0 -
The process is much more rigid. You can’t try to multivote as it picks up your IP address even if you had more than one email account . There are of course likely to be some trying to pull a fast one but so far this has not been a big problem .Philip_Thompson said:
Yeah because all those signatures are unique and real voters who didn't vote last time.Scott_P said:
*rolleyes*
Trying to trash the petition on grounds it’s dodgy seems a bit desperate , if however you want to deride it as unlikely to change much in the Commons then you’d have a stronger point .
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What has the number got todo with the majority. How do we know that any are conservative voter who will vote against their MP?Scott_P said:
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To be fair, Watson is half the man he used to be!Recidivist said:
Bad news for Casino. He takes up a lot of space so it will make it look like there are more people.williamglenn said:0 -
Chipping Barnet LOL. Taxi for Theresa!Scott_P said:0 -
Are we three or two episodes from the end of this season?Scott_P said:0 -
How do we know anybody signing is over 18?Nemtynakht said:
What has the number got todo with the majority. How do we know that any are conservative voter who will vote against their MP?Scott_P said:0 -
p.s. Everyone knows Zac is a gonner.ThomasNashe said:
Chipping Barnet LOL. Taxi for Theresa!Scott_P said:0 -
Hopefully it will shut the racists up for a bit.Pulpstar said:The value of sterling must be approaching an all time high
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Not any more he doesn’t. Watson has lost about seven stoneRecidivist said:
Bad news for Casino. He takes up a lot of space so it will make it look like there are more people.williamglenn said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/sep/12/tom-watson-lost-seven-stone-reversed-type-2-diabetes-interview0 -
Recidivist said:
Bad news for Casino. He takes up a lot of space so it will make it look like there are more people.williamglenn said:
Unless the Remain march tomorrow attracts more than 50 attendees, it will be beaten by the Leave march.0 -
Apparently there will be some spin-off shows. From the NYT: "Even though Mr. Mueller's report is complete, some aspects of his inquiry remain active and may be overseen by the same prosecutors once they are reassigned to their old jobs within the Justice Department. For instance, recently filed court documents suggest that investigators are still examining why the former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort turned over campaign polling data in 2016 to a Russian associate whom prosecutors said was tied to Russian intelligence."Freggles said:
Are we three or two episodes from the end of this season?Scott_P said:0 -
It's got to be touch and go between the two?_Anazina_ said:Recidivist said:
Bad news for Casino. He takes up a lot of space so it will make it look like there are more people.williamglenn said:
Unless the Remain march tomorrow attracts more than 50 attendees, it will be beaten by the Leave march.0 -
Just goes to show how tricksy these remainer types are._Anazina_ said:
Not any more he doesn’t. Watson has lost about seven stoneRecidivist said:
Bad news for Casino. He takes up a lot of space so it will make it look like there are more people.williamglenn said:
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One question is what he has to say about Nigel Farage.rpjs said:
Apparently there will be some spin-off shows. From the NYT: "Even though Mr. Mueller's report is complete, some aspects of his inquiry remain active and may be overseen by the same prosecutors once they are reassigned to their old jobs within the Justice Department. For instance, recently filed court documents suggest that investigators are still examining why the former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort turned over campaign polling data in 2016 to a Russian associate whom prosecutors said was tied to Russian intelligence."Freggles said:
Are we three or two episodes from the end of this season?Scott_P said:0 -
Living memory?!?williamglenn said:
An unduly lenient verdict.
Most people can't trace their family history back far enough to be contemporaneous with a worse PM.0
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