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She's out.0
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It's be funny if there were less than 48 votes against her tommorow0
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Resigned - reallyTheScreamingEagles said:She's out.
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She has not resigned0
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Like Ruth ?TheScreamingEagles said:She's out.
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I'm watching on Sky News's YouTube live feed and I wondered what would happen if I changed the speed to x2. It seemed to speed up, which I can't understand if it's live...0
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outside.....Big_G_NorthWales said:
Resigned - reallyTheScreamingEagles said:She's out.
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TSE means standing outside, duh0
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May puts no Brexit at all on the table.0
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Out as in outside.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Resigned - reallyTheScreamingEagles said:She's out.
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This sounds like the speech she wrote yesterday, not on the fly0
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No questions....0
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Protects the union, eh? I bet the DUP disagree, they are generally very disagreeable.0
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Only WG could take that out of the statement.williamglenn said:May puts no Brexit at all on the table.
We’re leaving, and SeanT will win his bet.0 -
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Still trying to sway the ERGers, rather than coax Labour votes (since most Labour MPs don't want to Brexit at all).williamglenn said:May puts no Brexit at all on the table.
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All pointless theatre - she won't get it through the Commons.0
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What the hell was that?0
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Impressive statement. Clearly a few moments when the emotion almost got to her. Plus the idiot shouting did not help.
This will play well with average voters.0 -
That was a bit crap0
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Deal accepted by cabinetGIN1138 said:What the hell was that?
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So will the cabinet hold steady this time?0
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A statement that the Cabinet have agreed the document.GIN1138 said:What the hell was that?
Now it will be up to EU capitals to agree the 500 pages and then the lost vote in Commons.0 -
I thought that was one of her better performances, regardless of a view on the content.rottenborough said:Impressive statement. Clearly a few moments when the emotion almost got to her. Plus the idiot shouting did not help.
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Then you were watching a different statement to many people. Remainers will be unhappy. Core Leavers will be unhappy. I think the middle is not going to be a happy place.rottenborough said:Impressive statement. Clearly a few moments when the emotion almost got to her. Plus the idiot shouting did not help.
This will play well with average voters.0 -
You can critise her as much as you want but that statement without notes looking very vulnerable was courageous and authorativerottenborough said:Impressive statement. Clearly a few moments when the emotion almost got to her. Plus the idiot shouting did not help.
This will play well with average voters.0 -
Think she might. Cabinet was bigger hurdle I thinkMarqueeMark said:All pointless theatre - she won't get it through the Commons.
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He's not the only one, this is what the Political Editor of The Speccie take on that statement.Mortimer said:
Only WG could take that out of the statement.williamglenn said:May puts no Brexit at all on the table.
We’re leaving, and SeanT will win his bet.
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No. The Commons kicked up a fuss about a press conference before a statement to the House and she has agreed with them.MarqueeMark said:No questions....
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Theatre is for entertainment. I see this more akin to going through the necessary process for filing an appeal or application for something - sure, the outcome is pretty darn certain, but you have to go through the required steps before you will be allowed to move on to the next one.MarqueeMark said:All pointless theatre - she won't get it through the Commons.
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The middle hopes the eejits on both sides will get behind he dealExiledInScotland said:
Then you were watching a different statement to many people. Remainers will be unhappy. Core Leavers will be unhappy. I think the middle is not going to be a happy place.rottenborough said:Impressive statement. Clearly a few moments when the emotion almost got to her. Plus the idiot shouting did not help.
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So no resignations then?0
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2018-11-14 19:26 UTC
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The middle is not large enough in the Commons.Pulpstar said:
The middle hopes the eejits on both sides will get behind he dealExiledInScotland said:
Then you were watching a different statement to many people. Remainers will be unhappy. Core Leavers will be unhappy. I think the middle is not going to be a happy place.rottenborough said:Impressive statement. Clearly a few moments when the emotion almost got to her. Plus the idiot shouting did not help.
This will play well with average voters.0 -
Some [Cons, ERG, zero-brained] twat on BBC News blaming the EU for treating TMay badly by being the EU.0
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I am not so sureMarqueeMark said:All pointless theatre - she won't get it through the Commons.
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There's rather a gap between between how WG and James put itTheScreamingEagles said:
He's not the only one, this is what the Political Editor of The Speccie take on that statement.Mortimer said:
Only WG could take that out of the statement.williamglenn said:May puts no Brexit at all on the table.
We’re leaving, and SeanT will win his bet.
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Digital feeds are often a long way behind live. A few evenings back the batteries died on our LW radio. It time me a short while to get the phone out, start up the BBC iPlayer radio app, find R4 and start it playing - by which point the digital feed was, oh, still about half a minute behind the broadcast at the point at which the batteries died.AndyJS said:I'm watching on Sky News's YouTube live feed and I wondered what would happen if I changed the speed to x2. It seemed to speed up, which I can't understand if it's live...
One day I might compare the pips on the hour to exactly quantify the difference, but I wouldn't use them to set your clocks if you have an internet radio.0 -
But WG took only the ‘no Brexit’ - he is the eeyore of Brexit.TheScreamingEagles said:
He's not the only one, this is what the Political Editor of The Speccie take on that statement.Mortimer said:
Only WG could take that out of the statement.williamglenn said:May puts no Brexit at all on the table.
We’re leaving, and SeanT will win his bet.
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Did anyone else enjoy the fact that she eventually made the speech at 1922?
Will this be her Chanak - and will Boris be Baldwin at the Carlton Club?0 -
https://twitter.com/jgforsyth/status/1062787916848685057?s=21Mortimer said:
Only WG could take that out of the statement.williamglenn said:May puts no Brexit at all on the table.
We’re leaving, and SeanT will win his bet.0 -
Need to seeGallowgate said:So no resignations then?
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David Davis, must be gutted he can't re-resign tonight. It's what he loves most of all.0
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Yes she was good at that. Long way to go of course.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You can critise her as much as you want but that statement without notes looking very vulnerable was courageous and authorativerottenborough said:Impressive statement. Clearly a few moments when the emotion almost got to her. Plus the idiot shouting did not help.
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Maybe at the weekendGallowgate said:So no resignations then?
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Turning and turning in the widening gyrekle4 said:
The middle is not large enough in the Commons.Pulpstar said:
The middle hopes the eejits on both sides will get behind he dealExiledInScotland said:
Then you were watching a different statement to many people. Remainers will be unhappy. Core Leavers will be unhappy. I think the middle is not going to be a happy place.rottenborough said:Impressive statement. Clearly a few moments when the emotion almost got to her. Plus the idiot shouting did not help.
This will play well with average voters.
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
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Evening all
There were three possible outcomes today:
1) May got her way with one or more resignations.
2) May herself was forced to resign with a majority of the Cabinet opposed.
3) May got full Cabinet agreement.
This is her optimum solution and I suspect the Cabinet have decided hanging together is better than hanging separately.
As to how this deal will be "sold" - if the only line is it's better than No Deal, fine, but that won't you very far. Some may reasonably ask after 18 months of negotiation if this was really the best we could do.0 -
You're an optimistic chap. But why would the DUP change their minds? Why would the ERG? Why would Labour MPs?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not so sureMarqueeMark said:All pointless theatre - she won't get it through the Commons.
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Brilliant news!!! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46209149
Only a mere 5 years 51 weeks and 1 day since he was convicted.
The lying toerag can go peddle his bullshit in Ghana instead of hawking his pretendy remorse around gullible fools here.
Vengeance is a dish best eaten cold and I am going to enjoy my dinner tonight, I can tell you.0 -
BREAKING: May to meet Arlene Foster at 8.30pm0
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It's gonna be tight. Will make the Maastricht vote look like a minor procedural point.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not so sureMarqueeMark said:All pointless theatre - she won't get it through the Commons.
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How long before Bridgen says something stupid?0
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Well, they cannot cry about how unfair it was they were threatened with having to take a taxi back from Chequers as a reason why they backed in initially then changed their minds.Pulpstar said:
Maybe at the weekendGallowgate said:So no resignations then?
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But it's important because there are some on the Tory benches who are absolutely convinced that it is only a choice between deal or no deal. Adding the 'no Brexit' option may be key to convincing enough wavering Brexiteers to support the deal (or at least abstain).TheWhiteRabbit said:
There's rather a gap between between how WG and James put itTheScreamingEagles said:
He's not the only one, this is what the Political Editor of The Speccie take on that statement.Mortimer said:
Only WG could take that out of the statement.williamglenn said:May puts no Brexit at all on the table.
We’re leaving, and SeanT will win his bet.
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In the Arctic, naked, bitten by mosquitoes in the summer, frostbitten in the winter and buggered by the bears in spring and autumn.. .Big_G_NorthWales said:
And leave him therenumbertwelve said:
Please can you take Boris with you? He’s obsessed with Canada.TheScreamingEagles said:I'm so glad I'm going to be in Canada when Brexit happens.
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No deal and the deal were already on the table. Her saying no Brexit is also an option in this context is new.TheWhiteRabbit said:
There's rather a gap between between how WG and James put itTheScreamingEagles said:
He's not the only one, this is what the Political Editor of The Speccie take on that statement.Mortimer said:
Only WG could take that out of the statement.williamglenn said:May puts no Brexit at all on the table.
We’re leaving, and SeanT will win his bet.
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[Takes finger away from "transfer to Euros" button. Closes down online banking account. Issues sigh of relief. Goes to put kettle on]
EDIT. That's really what happened. It isn't a metaphor.0 -
Just the narrative will grow that to take it down risks no dealkle4 said:
You're an optimistic chap. But why would the DUP change their minds? Why would the ERG? Why would Labour MPs?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not so sureMarqueeMark said:All pointless theatre - she won't get it through the Commons.
Also Barnier to speak at 8.00pm0 -
Christ, that will be a frosty affair.TheWhiteRabbit said:BREAKING: May to meet Arlene Foster at 8.30pm
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That will be fun...TheWhiteRabbit said:BREAKING: May to meet Arlene Foster at 8.30pm
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Balls. I have a venison casserole in the oven. It’s ready in....15 minutes!0
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I think we can all agree that the PR campaign has to start now. May has to forego her usual tight-lipped approach or find others who can do it for her.0
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That sounds almost homerotic in its intensity.OchEye said:
In the Arctic, naked, bitten by mosquitoes in the summer, frostbitten in the winter and buggered by the bears in spring and autumn.. .Big_G_NorthWales said:
And leave him therenumbertwelve said:
Please can you take Boris with you? He’s obsessed with Canada.TheScreamingEagles said:I'm so glad I'm going to be in Canada when Brexit happens.
Do you have a secret man crash on Boris, or is it just the crush part you're interested in?0 -
Labour seem clear on this at least, that officially they think no deal is a bluff. I do not think it is, and I think saying it is is deeply irresponsible, but we know how much Labour rebels still hate voting withing the government. They'll buy it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just the narrative will grow that to take it down risks no dealkle4 said:
You're an optimistic chap. But why would the DUP change their minds? Why would the ERG? Why would Labour MPs?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not so sureMarqueeMark said:All pointless theatre - she won't get it through the Commons.
Also Barnier to speak at 8.00pm0 -
Turns out her Cabinet is at present her and three others and no one else.El_Capitano said:0 -
Handshakes rather than kisses.rottenborough said:
Christ, that will be a frosty affair.TheWhiteRabbit said:BREAKING: May to meet Arlene Foster at 8.30pm
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Wasn't it Jim Hacker who said, 'My Cabinet took a unanimous decision,' only for Sir Humphrey to point out that was becuase Hacker said he he would sack anyone who didn't agree?El_Capitano said:0 -
Vengeance is a dish best gorged upon!Cyclefree said:Brilliant news!!! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46209149
Only a mere 5 years 51 weeks and 1 day since he was convicted.
The lying toerag can go peddle his bullshit in Ghana instead of hawking his pretendy remorse around gullible fools here.
Vengeance is a dish best eaten cold and I am going to enjoy my dinner tonight, I can tell you.0 -
David Mundell you know what you have to do.El_Capitano said:0 -
I am not quite so cruel but can understand the sentimentOchEye said:
In the Arctic, naked, bitten by mosquitoes in the summer, frostbitten in the winter and buggered by the bears in spring and autumn.. .Big_G_NorthWales said:
And leave him therenumbertwelve said:
Please can you take Boris with you? He’s obsessed with Canada.TheScreamingEagles said:I'm so glad I'm going to be in Canada when Brexit happens.
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This has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe everrottenborough said:0 -
If May's got any sense then she'll get the vote scheduled before the ECJ rules on A50 revocation. If that gets upheld then the threat of deal or no deal goes away.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just the narrative will grow that to take it down risks no dealkle4 said:
You're an optimistic chap. But why would the DUP change their minds? Why would the ERG? Why would Labour MPs?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not so sureMarqueeMark said:All pointless theatre - she won't get it through the Commons.
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DUP explosion in 60 minutes. It's like that swimming-pool scene in Sherlock where Moriarty comes back.williamglenn said:0 -
That stance has been clear for quite some time. I don't think it is inherently unreasonable, even though it being the opposite of what she once said is unreasonable. If people believe no deal is so bad, then they should believe any deal is better, unfortunately. If they actually think no deal is not as bad as people say, then it is also not unreasonable to think no deal is better than a bad deal.rottenborough said:0 -
If NPXMPX2 is right then there are six Lab MPs likely to vote with the government. Sounds about right.kle4 said:
Labour seem clear on this at least, that officially they think no deal is a bluff. I do not think it is, and I think saying it is is deeply irresponsible, but we know how much Labour rebels still hate voting withing the government. They'll buy it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just the narrative will grow that to take it down risks no dealkle4 said:
You're an optimistic chap. But why would the DUP change their minds? Why would the ERG? Why would Labour MPs?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not so sureMarqueeMark said:All pointless theatre - she won't get it through the Commons.
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On that - the hearing is Nov 27th, correct? But presumably no-one expects an actual judgement on that day do they?rpjs said:
If May's got any sense then she'll get the vote scheduled before the ECJ rules on A50 revocation. If that gets upheld then the threat of deal or no deal goes away.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just the narrative will grow that to take it down risks no dealkle4 said:
You're an optimistic chap. But why would the DUP change their minds? Why would the ERG? Why would Labour MPs?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not so sureMarqueeMark said:All pointless theatre - she won't get it through the Commons.
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May's a total waste of space when it comes to "communicating" with the voters (hence her bizarre performance a moment ago) her "selling" anything is a total non-starter...TheWhiteRabbit said:I think we can all agree that the PR campaign has to start now. May has to forego her usual tight-lipped approach or find others who can do it for her.
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Is a record kept of how the cabinet voted for future historians, or is it always secret?El_Capitano said:0 -
Just reading some Scots Tories earlier, very very strong on the special treatment point (which Mundell has sidestepped)Gallowgate said:0 -
I wonder - to be serious for a moment - if Westminster, Brussels and Dublin are being too blasé about the risk of Loyalist paramilitaries rearming.viewcode said:
DUP explosion in 60 minutes. It's like that swimming-pool scene in Sherlock where Moriarty comes back.williamglenn said:0 -
What a cretin.Gallowgate said:0 -
That is a good result for TMGallowgate said:0 -
I don't think the cabinet officially votes on anything - it's always a collective decision - so there would be no record as theoretically there's nothing to record.AndyJS said:
Is a record kept of how the cabinet voted for future historians, or is it always secret?El_Capitano said:0
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