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  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    EPG said:

    Y0kel said:

    EPG said:

    AndyJS said:

    Sinn Fein gain Foyle. Perhaps a sympathy vote to the memory of Martin McGuinness who used to be the SF candidate there for many elections.

    Middle-class Catholics / Nationalists are just sick of the endless scowling from Arlene Foster's unionism. The SDLP couldn't satisfy that demand and keep unionist tactical votes, it looks like they lost a bit of both.
    Thats balls, Sinn Fein were always going to do this, they've been wearing the SDLP down in Derry for near 8 years now., long before Arlene was on the scene.

    I thought they'd do it in 2015. I was two years out.
    Nah, was no more inevitable than UUP wipe out or UUP recovery, i.e. it wasn't. There is a clear change in the mood all over the two islands, you can't keep calling Catholics reptiles and expect infinite cheek-turning.
    You clearly no nothing about Foyle..look at the counts over the last 8 years. Sinn Fein have been rising and rising.

  • TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Mr shouty from Peterborough is gone

    Labour gain Peterborough
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,518
    AndyJS said:

    Tories almost win Bishop Auckland.

    Lab maj 502.

    It feels like the night if Tory nearlys and missed opportunities and Labour wins
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    edited June 2017
    Typo said:

    Shame it isn't the lovely Oliver Coppard standing again in Hallam.

    :+1:
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Scott_P said:

    Vince Cable back apparently

    And I thought that the night could not get worse...
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944

    Mortimer said:

    Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.

    Its houses.

    I've said it for years. We need to build MILLIONS of houses.
    I agree.
    We also need to control the demand for housing by stopping buy to leave and also reduce immigration.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,690
    Pulpstar said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Chameleon said:

    Lib Dems being wiped out in England. Just Scottish party. SNP decline amazing. Labour growth incredible. Tories - Idiots.

    My £50 on LD sub 10 @ ~6/1 is looking good.
    Is it? They could end up on eight in Scotland, plus Twickenham...

    Just one more stuffs you...
    Bath. Witney.
    Witney would be astonishing. I really can't believe it.

    Ceredgion or Kingston are more likely.
  • TypoTypo Posts: 195
    Chameleon said:

    AndyJS said:

    Tories almost win Bishop Auckland.

    Lab maj 502.

    Holy moly, thats unexpected (such a small majority that is).
    Indicative of long-term drift?

    Looks like Labour have also held Middlesbrough S.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,972
    edited June 2017

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm sorry Nick. You didn't deserve to lose. Sometimes doing the right thing doesn't pay.

    True. He did the right thing for the Country, and the wrong thing for his Party.
    Corbyn's campaign by contrast seems to have done the right thing for his party but would be the wrong thing for his country, hopefully we will still keep him out
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Clegg's speech makes me want to vote for him.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,188

    "BREAKING: Labour sources say will take Canterbury, which Julian Brazier has held since 1987."

    Isn't he an unreconstructed old-school Tory bigot? Or am I thinking of someone else.

    That's him.
  • GarzaGarza Posts: 45
    EPG said:

    Y0kel said:

    EPG said:

    AndyJS said:

    Sinn Fein gain Foyle. Perhaps a sympathy vote to the memory of Martin McGuinness who used to be the SF candidate there for many elections.

    Middle-class Catholics / Nationalists are just sick of the endless scowling from Arlene Foster's unionism. The SDLP couldn't satisfy that demand and keep unionist tactical votes, it looks like they lost a bit of both.
    Thats balls, Sinn Fein were always going to do this, they've been wearing the SDLP down in Derry for near 8 years now., long before Arlene was on the scene.

    I thought they'd do it in 2015. I was two years out.
    Nah, was no more inevitable than UUP wipe out or UUP recovery, i.e. it wasn't. There is a clear change in the mood all over the two islands, you can't keep calling Catholics reptiles and expect infinite cheek-turning.
    What the hell are you talking about?
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Good speech from Clegg.

    Vince Cable is back
  • MimusMimus Posts: 56
    glw said:

    Chameleon said:


    kle4 said:

    Part of me wonders if Corbyn and co might not prefer to fall slightly short, as they've galvanized the youth vote, but no way they could deliver on all they promised.

    Hopefully Con will see what he's done and offer some things to the youth vote in the coming GE.
    I SHALL SPELL IT OUT IN ALL CAPS FOR CCHQ. GRADUATE TAX, IT'S "FAIR" AND IT CAN BRING IN MORE MONEY.
    Why is it fairer? You can never pay it off, but if you move aboard you can avoid it entirely.
  • ThePondererThePonderer Posts: 23
    edited June 2017
    Canterbury has been Tory since 1874, when it was a two member seat with one Con, one Lib.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 62,631
    Really Statesman speech from Nick Clegg
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,690
    Chameleon said:

    Clegg's speech makes me want to vote for him.

    Yes. Hard not to feel for him.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Vince Cable is back!
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2017
    CONSERVATIVES GAIN WALSALL NORTH FROM LABOUR.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,972
    edited June 2017
    Copeland

    Conservative gain from Labour (hold from by election)
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,892
    Big win for Vince
  • TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Long way to go. Tories can still win.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,518
    Wallsal North gain!
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,582
    Very classy from Clegg. A real loss to Parliament.
  • spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,485

    Fuck, I live in a Labour constituency now

    I've never lived in a marginal seat. Grew up in rural Norfolk, Lived in Llanelli, Leicester, Preston and Derby (south). It'd be good to move somewhere where my vote actually counted
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @bbclaurak: Vince Cable is back - retakes Twickenham
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,139
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    Clegg's lost.

    Sad

    hahahahahahahahaha

    Never forgave him after the Lib Dems offered an in/out referendum then he decided that such a thing was an abomination when it actually became democratically possible.

    Liberal DEMOCRATS??

    Fuck off, old boy. Fuck off.
    And perhaps the same should be said for you. Do you actually have a position on anything, aside from who can give you an (viagra assisted) erection ?

    I hope you, like Scrooge McDuck, enjoy your pile of money.
    You seem oddly discombobulated. I am drinking Amarone on a starlit balcony in Rome. I love Europe. Cheer up.
    Nah. I'm enjoying this for tonight. But you must admit that you're insulated from this, as your comment shows.

    I, and my family, are not.
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Cons holding on comfortably to seats in the Midlands, but how many could they realistically gain?
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,471
    Cable BIG win! Excellent!
  • Carolus_RexCarolus_Rex Posts: 1,414

    Good speech from Clegg.

    Vince Cable is back

    Blast. That's the worst news of the night.
  • FattyBolgerFattyBolger Posts: 299
    God. Smug Vince is back.
  • OliverOliver Posts: 33
    Clegg was propped up in 2015 by Conservative tactical voters who preferred to continue the Lib-Con coalition than risk a Miliband victory. They've all gone home and Clegg has had the rug pulled out from under him.

    It's a shame because he seems to be a good guy who is in politics for the right reasons, and not afraid to tell it straight about the Brexit catastrophe.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,872
    AndyJS said:

    Tories almost win Bishop Auckland.

    Lab maj 502.

    Bugger.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,732
    Huge win for Cable
  • Huge win for Vince in Twickers.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Pulpstar said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Chameleon said:

    Lib Dems being wiped out in England. Just Scottish party. SNP decline amazing. Labour growth incredible. Tories - Idiots.

    My £50 on LD sub 10 @ ~6/1 is looking good.
    Is it? They could end up on eight in Scotland, plus Twickenham...

    Just one more stuffs you...
    Bath. Witney.
    It's looking a lot more likely than 6-1, lets put it that way.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    grr

    The wrong Lib dem won/lost
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,842
    Cable returning is not good news for the future of the LDs. He was a dreadful minister and not a team player.

    He might be a LD MP - but not a positive one.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,769
    Jonathan said:

    Cable BIG win! Excellent!

    I'll be voting for Jo.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,139
    Jonathan said:

    Cable BIG win! Excellent!

    Woohoo!

    Why am I going all Lib Dem? Could it be the Conservatives have gone all non-conservative?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Does seem some of the noisier headbangers are out :smile:
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,690
    Holy crap. Massive Vince Cable win.

    Boo.

  • Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928
    EEA/EFTA it is.

    Anyone who wants Hard Brexit now is an effing idiot.

    Sorry, but there it is.
  • ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,843

    If Norman Lamb loses, that will be all the good Lib Dem coalition ministers gone.

    LDs may do relatively well in seat terms but they have been reduced to a Tactically Voted Scottish Unionist Party based on results so far. No future for them if this is the seat distribution.
  • EDW20000EDW20000 Posts: 138
    god I hate Cable
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,111

    Mortimer said:

    Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.

    Its houses.

    I've said it for years. We need to build MILLIONS of houses.
    I agree.
    We also need to control the demand for housing by stopping buy to leave and also reduce immigration.
    Yup.

    I'd ban overseas purchase of new houses, too.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @ZoraSuleman: Reported if Theresa May doesn't get a majority she will step down ... it depends by how much ... if not a large margin she'll stay for a bit
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,188
    Scott_P said:

    Does seem some of the noisier headbangers are out :smile:

    Joy
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,463

    26% majority in Westminster North

    Big winner at 7/2 for me.

    Wirral South at 7/1 as well.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,972
    Norwich South
    Labour hold
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,576
    Huge vote for Cable- some locals really regretted kicking him out (plus Brexit effect)
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,872
    Robert Peston is compromised by his excitement on anything vaguely spinnable as anti-Brexit.

    Not to mention his highly irritating delivery.
  • nielhnielh Posts: 1,307
    Gutted about Clegg. One of the few sensible people in Parliament.
  • dazzadazza Posts: 28
    Shame. ... I always thought Dr Tania Matthias was a good speaker in the commons.
  • TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Jonathan said:

    Cable BIG win! Excellent!

    My lib dem canvass queen called it. None of you listened.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Really liked Clegg's speech. It should be Farron gone, not him.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264

    Really liked Clegg's speech. It should be Farron gone, not him.

    Ditto.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,872
    Floater said:

    Bristol NW gone

    Fuck.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Recount in Farrons seat!!!
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,756
    AndyJS said:

    CONSERVATIVES GAIN WALSALL NORTH FROM LABOUR.

    Was that on the exit poll?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,139
    rcs1000 said:

    Holy crap. Massive Vince Cable win.

    Boo.

    Yay.

    But you're going abroad, so what do you care?

    (Joking. Partially).
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238

    Fuck, I live in a Labour constituency now

    Bwaaaaaaaaaah
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,576

    Very classy from Clegg. A real loss to Parliament.

    Nearly all the MPs I liked are gone or going. And I helped do it to them to.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,169

    Fuck, I live in a Labour constituency now

    Tories4Clegg not quite so enthusiastic this time.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,531
    Sir Vince!
  • eekeek Posts: 27,939
    Pulpstar said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Chameleon said:

    Lib Dems being wiped out in England. Just Scottish party. SNP decline amazing. Labour growth incredible. Tories - Idiots.

    My £50 on LD sub 10 @ ~6/1 is looking good.
    Is it? They could end up on eight in Scotland, plus Twickenham...

    Just one more stuffs you...
    Bath. Witney.
    I've just discovered that I'm stuffed if Lib Dems get exactly 10 seats.. not much but i'll be £50 down rather than £150 up...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Walsall North, changes:

    Con +15.9%
    Lab +3.8%
    UKIP -16.0%
    LD -0.7%
  • spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,485
    wow, Farron is close to losing his seat!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,972
    Somerton and Frome
    Conservative hold
  • OUTOUT Posts: 569
    Recount Fife NE
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,518
    rcs1000 said:

    Holy crap. Massive Vince Cable win.

    Boo.

    The dementia tax policy has killed us any constituencies with expensive houses.
  • "It should be Farron gone, not him."

    He's gone too.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,972
    Nottingham North
    Labour hold
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,842

    Really liked Clegg's speech. It should be Farron gone, not him.

    There is still time for that.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:

    CONSERVATIVES GAIN WALSALL NORTH FROM LABOUR.

    Was that on the exit poll?
    Not sure.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,463
    HYUFD said:

    Norwich South
    Labour hold

    Where's PB's 'man on the spot'.
  • Carolus_RexCarolus_Rex Posts: 1,414

    Really liked Clegg's speech. It should be Farron gone, not him.

    Well, Farron's not exactly nailed on to keep his seat.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,972
    Grantham and Stamford
    Conservative hold
  • glwglw Posts: 9,855
    Ishmael_Z said:

    How does that differ in substance from a loan/repayment deal, except that there is no end to it? Oh and please tell me it won't be retrospective.

    Not retrospective, although I suppose an opt-in could be offered.

    Yes it would be unending, but for whatever reason a lot of people seem to think loan = bad, tax = good. So give it to them, and collect more money.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,972
    Hyndburn
    Labour hold
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,531
    Comrades gain IPSWICH
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    Very sorry to see Clegg go.

    Its a brutal old game. History will judge Clegg kindly for the Coalition years.

    While not sorry to see one fewer SNP MP, Robertson often asked the best questions in PMQs - wonder who will replace him now?
    Can you imagine next PMQs with May and Corbyn - either in the same or in reversed roles?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,576
    OUT said:

    Recount Fife NE

    Come on LDs!
    spudgfsh said:

    wow, Farron is close to losing his seat!

    On come on, what is up with all of this - LDs losing everywhere but London, Scotland, and 1-2 others.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @BBCsarahsmith: Alex Salmond not looking very happy as he arrives at his count in Gordon
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Kate Hoey, meh.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Labour gain Ipswich
  • Chris_AChris_A Posts: 1,237
    camel said:

    lab gain peterborough, yougov looking like prophets let alone pollsters

    Hurrah another great result and disgusting Tory gone.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,576
    Sandpit said:

    Fuck, I live in a Labour constituency now

    Tories4Clegg not quite so enthusiastic this time.
    TSE did his part.
  • Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928
    There are big rumours that Labour will take both Canterbury and Kensington??

    I think the Tories will surely will hold both.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Ben Gummer in Ipswich is gone.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,972
    Newbury
    Conservative hold
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,139

    Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.

    Show me a post where you said that pre-referendum ?

    These are obvious potential consequences. You were warned.
    Go to bed.
    You should try being a parent before you try that line.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Ipswich gone
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,732
    Scott_P said:

    @BBCsarahsmith: Alex Salmond not looking very happy as he arrives at his count in Gordon

    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @paulhutcheon: Oh. The Tories are now talking up their chances in Alex Salmond's seat
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,972
    Birmingham Northfield
    Labour hold
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,678
    Scott_P said:

    @ZoraSuleman: Reported if Theresa May doesn't get a majority she will step down ... it depends by how much ... if not a large margin she'll stay for a bit

    She's holed below the waterline whatever now. Would be best for her if she just shuffled off quietly and quickly now.
  • TypoTypo Posts: 195
    Please let Farron lose.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Stella Creasy gets 81% in Walthamstow.

    What a f*****g divided country we are now.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,463
    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.

    Its houses.

    I've said it for years. We need to build MILLIONS of houses.
    I agree.
    We also need to control the demand for housing by stopping buy to leave and also reduce immigration.
    Yup.

    I'd ban overseas purchase of new houses, too.
    That should free up half a million flats in London.
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