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  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Congratulations Paul. I guess we'll need to recruit!
  • Didn't someone say that the constituency changes are going through unless altered by parliament? Would screw brexit but could the conservatives eek on u til the changes are confirmed with the DUP?
  • DruttDrutt Posts: 1,124
    My SCON 6-10 bet is going to go over the top, isn't it?
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    Floater said:

    I admit I am heading towards slightly pissed - am I alone ? :-)

    I had my last drink in 2005. There is however plenty of the stuff in the house. Not sure whether to put the cherry on top of a perfect day by falling off the wagon.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,021
    HYUFD said:

    Renfrewshire East

    Conservative gain from SNP

    Another one for Ruth, the saviour of the Conservative and Unionist Party!
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,932

    EDW20000 said:

    I am buying pounds call options, Brexit is doomed

    Nope. Brexit will go ahead. And probably be far better managed than it would have been because it won't be May calling the shots.
    Desperate straw-clutching.

    The country may well be in chaos.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,682
    Harwick and Essex North

    Conservative Hold
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,726
    glw said:

    AndyJS said:

    SeanT said:

    Call me Mr Political Geekypants, but this is an incredibly compelling election. So much of our national future depends on the nuances of every single constituency result - from the Union to Brexit to possible communist takeover.

    The results aren't as bad for the Tories as people are implying.
    Because of your spreadsheets I assume that everything you say is Gospel. But I don't understand why. :)

    Y0kel said:

    To be honest if the Tories polled 44-45% nationally again in 6 months, I doubt they'd fail to get a majority.

    Get rid of the dementia tax and promise £350m for the NHS.
    Throw in the single market membership too I think.
    Go for EFTA membership and the EEA. The Norway option that so many Brexit supporters wanted anyway.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Drutt said:

    My SCON 6-10 bet is going to go over the top, isn't it?

    Yup.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,682
    Tunbridge Wells
    Conservative hold
  • ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,843
    MattyNeth said:

    MaxPB said:

    HYUFD said:

    BBC forecast

    Cons 322
    Lab 261

    Can't get a Coalition of Chaos out of that, so the Tories knife May and carry on, no?
    Yes, with soft Brexit. Tbh, it could be my ideal result!
    Soft Brexit doesn't exist
    Yes it does. FoM is the only thing stopping it.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,767
    Labour 200 votes ahead in Canterbury.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,830
    12 year old Tory the candidate in East Ren. Not even close, exit poll had it SLAB IIRC
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,972
    Traded out of the last of my Labour minority govt bet on Betfair at 8 - just in the nick of time.
    Layed most of my Cons minority govt too, as it's just possible they scrape a majority.

    Osborn looking a bit more cheerful.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,682
    Walthamstow
    Labour hold
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    MaxPB said:

    SeanT said:

    Call me Mr Political Geekypants, but this is an incredibly compelling election. So much of our national future depends on the nuances of every single constituency result - from the Union to Brexit to possible communist takeover.

    I think we'll be able to avoid the latter, the union looks like it's been saved but Brexit is the big question. Hopefully we're heading for soft Brexit. Global Britain, I hope.
    We won't once the EU starts collapsing in fairly short order. The EU is fu**ed in so many ways.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,682
    Bolton NE
    Labour hold
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,635
    UGH Sinn Fein GAIN Foyle.

    Northern Ireland <.<
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,142
    kle4 said:

    12 year old Tory the candidate in East Ren. Not even close, exit poll had it SLAB IIRC

    The Tory Surge(tm) is *ACTUALLY HAPPENING*.

    :D
  • DadgeDadge Posts: 2,052
    CNN expert says Tories will end up closer to 300 than to 326.

    !

    Not buying it though.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    HYUFD said:

    Harwick and Essex North

    Conservative Hold

    well if Bernard lost his seat the sky would be falling in
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830

    Looks like the Tories are going to just hang-on, helped by Sinn Fein making gains and reducing the threshold for a majority.

    The levels of irony in this though.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,672
    AndyJS said:

    Sinn Fein gain Foyle. Perhaps a sympathy vote to the memory of Martin McGuinness who used to be the SF candidate there for many elections.

    Middle-class Catholics / Nationalists are just sick of the endless scowling from Arlene Foster's unionism. The SDLP couldn't satisfy that demand and keep unionist tactical votes, it looks like they lost a bit of both.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,106
    edited June 2017
    East Dumbartonshire lib dem win
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    12% majority for Labour in Wirral West
    19% in Wirral South
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,894

    Typo said:

    So Lib Dems lost Southport but who gained it? :D

    We were told that the LibDems were certain to hold Southport because they won every ward in the constituency last year.

    Well this year they came third.
    YouGov had it as a 92% probability Tory gain,

    All hail YouGov.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    Swinson wins!
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    Spin suspended ...... IG at Con324.
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,893
    Well done to Jo Swinson
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,449
    Jonathan said:

    Labour 200 votes ahead in Canterbury.

    If Labour win Canterbury it is going into the PB annals of history
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,682
    edited June 2017
    East Dunbartonshire

    LD gain from SNP

    John Nicolson OUT
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    glw said:

    Chameleon said:


    kle4 said:

    Part of me wonders if Corbyn and co might not prefer to fall slightly short, as they've galvanized the youth vote, but no way they could deliver on all they promised.

    Hopefully Con will see what he's done and offer some things to the youth vote in the coming GE.
    I SHALL SPELL IT OUT IN ALL CAPS FOR CCHQ. GRADUATE TAX, IT'S "FAIR" AND IT CAN BRING IN MORE MONEY.
    There's already a graduate tax. 9% extra tax on all income above £20k. A graduate tax would also do fuck all to get the youth vote onside when Lab are offering free tuition.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,249
    Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    LDs gain East Dunbartonshire from SNP.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,525
    Thrasher thrashing about on Sky, he's got no idea what the hell is happening. UNS is dead.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,270
    Jo Swinson won?
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Renfrewshire East Tory gain!
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Ishmael_Z said:

    Floater said:

    I admit I am heading towards slightly pissed - am I alone ? :-)

    I had my last drink in 2005. There is however plenty of the stuff in the house. Not sure whether to put the cherry on top of a perfect day by falling off the wagon.
    Stay strong brother! Forget I mentioned it :-)
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Almighty klaxon!!!

    Swindon next lib dem leader odds?
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307

    Y0kel said:

    And the DUP have indeed taken South Antrim....

    Go the DUP team, topping up the Cons!
    SDLP done by Sinn Fein in Derry. 2 years ago I predicted this and lost...not this time....

    Understanding is that South Down has been lost too to Sinn Fein.

    That leaves Alaistair McDonnell for the SDLP in South Belfast..based on the Sinn Fein performance they are going to eat his vote away. With the DUP really doing well (Unionists got the message from the Assembly election debacle), it could well be a DUP'er seat. And if they do, my only recommended bet on here is going to be a nice winner.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,635
    Sandpit said:

    Thrasher thrashing about on Sky, he's got no idea what the hell is happening. UNS is dead.

    Oh yes. UNS. Stick a fork in it.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,748

    glw said:

    AndyJS said:

    SeanT said:

    Call me Mr Political Geekypants, but this is an incredibly compelling election. So much of our national future depends on the nuances of every single constituency result - from the Union to Brexit to possible communist takeover.

    The results aren't as bad for the Tories as people are implying.
    Because of your spreadsheets I assume that everything you say is Gospel. But I don't understand why. :)

    Y0kel said:

    To be honest if the Tories polled 44-45% nationally again in 6 months, I doubt they'd fail to get a majority.

    Get rid of the dementia tax and promise £350m for the NHS.
    Throw in the single market membership too I think.
    Go for EFTA membership and the EEA. The Norway option that so many Brexit supporters wanted anyway.
    Excellent post.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    east Renfrewshire - what the fuck. SNP down to 167 votes.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,636

    East Dumbartonshire lib dem win

    Nope. LD gain.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,894

    Almighty klaxon!!!

    Swindon next lib dem leader odds?

    If - as seems likely - Farron loses, then it is surely odds on.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    AndyJS said:

    LDs gain East Dunbartonshire from SNP.

    Swinson next leader?!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,142
    Chameleon said:

    east Renfrewshire - what the fuck. SNP down to 167 votes.

    That must be a typo??
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,830
    edited June 2017

    East Dumbartonshire snp hold

    Blooming heck! Perhaps not such a good night for SLD after all - I know holyrood wasn't so good there, but it was their smallest drop nationally in 2015.

    Unionists getting mixed up again - has been very good elsewhere.

    Edit: Wait, they've won by a huge amount. Come on Big G
  • DruttDrutt Posts: 1,124
    Putting the WIN in Swinson. £10 well spent.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.

    Its houses.

    I've said it for years. We need to build MILLIONS of houses.
  • Carolus_RexCarolus_Rex Posts: 1,414
    Jonathan said:

    Labour 200 votes ahead in Canterbury.

    Bloody hell.

    Well, if that is right then I owe Yougov an apology.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,525
    HYUFD said:

    Renfrewshire East

    Conservative gain from SNP

    Fantastic!
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,894
    Wow: huge Jo Swinson majority.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,546
    Sandpit said:

    Thrasher thrashing about on Sky, he's got no idea what the hell is happening. UNS is dead.

    I am taking all the updated seat projections with a massive grain of salt as I am pretty sure all the statos models are totally screwed with what has happened.
  • midwintermidwinter Posts: 1,112
    Mortimer said:

    Swinson wins!

    What are you thinking? Tiny majority? Just short?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,249
    Theresa May looking extremely stressed there..
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,854
    May's wearing her lucky Trump suit...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Cannock Chase, Tory hold:

    Con +10.8%
    Lab +3.7%
    UKIP -13.2%
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Floater said:

    I admit I am heading towards slightly pissed - am I alone ? :-)

    Nope, not the only one.

  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944

    AndyJS said:

    Tories are going to win overall majority IMO. Good results in the Midlands. Could still gain seats like NE Derbyshire.

    Yep, looks like the Midlands will save the Tories. But not the bloodbath I was expecting. Given results in other affluent Remain seats Warwick & Leamington might be close.


    And saved by Scotland! Wow... what an odd night. Jo Swinson for leader?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,726

    EDW20000 said:

    I am buying pounds call options, Brexit is doomed

    Nope. Brexit will go ahead. And probably be far better managed than it would have been because it won't be May calling the shots.
    Desperate straw-clutching.

    The country may well be in chaos.
    No straw clutching at all. With both Labour and the Tories committed to Brexit and the main Anti-Brexit parties getting slaughtered the only question is what sort. If you think this will change the eventual fact of us leaving you are sadly deluded.

    To be honest if we get to the end of the night with the Tories with a small majority and May on her way out that would be just about perfect for me.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    The SNP are getting hammered.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Jo Swinson new LD leader!!!
  • MonkeysMonkeys Posts: 758
    Mike's letter swung it for Jo Swinson
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,932

    Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.

    Show me a post where you said that pre-referendum ?

    These are obvious potential consequences. You were warned.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Coventry South

    Lab +12.8
    Con +3.2
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,636
    Looks like County Durham is going to stay solidly Labour.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,439

    Theresa May looking extremely stressed there..

    And well she might... She's done for!
  • ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,843
    ITV saying Vauxhall Lab hold, Kate Hoey back sadly
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,924
    Y0kel said:

    Y0kel said:

    And the DUP have indeed taken South Antrim....

    Go the DUP team, topping up the Cons!
    SDLP done by Sinn Fein in Derry. 2 years ago I predicted this and lost...not this time....

    Understanding is that South Down has been lost too to Sinn Fein.

    That leaves Alaistair McDonnell for the SDLP in South Belfast..based on the Sinn Fein performance they are going to eat his vote away. With the DUP really doing well (Unionists got the message from the Assembly election debacle), it could well be a DUP'er seat. And if they do, my only recommended bet on here is going to be a nice winner.

    I'm on that bet with thanks to you.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,932
    Please.

    I know it's unlikely.

    But please.

    May May lose.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,317

    trawl said:

    One of the less mentioned reasons for May going for this GE was to have her own mandate, to get rid of the oft used "unelected PM" jibes. Stating the obvious but if she scrapes through but has to go, her replacement will have the same dilemma.

    There's no fecking way the PCP will ever allow a Tory PM to call a snap election.
    Yes, not without planning out a manifesto first that has been properly focus grouped. Any basic focus group would have spotted the house confiscation and the party would have binned it.
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Sky projecting 308-328 seats
  • glwglw Posts: 10,005

    Go for EFTA membership and the EEA. The Norway option that so many Brexit supporters wanted anyway.

    That would probably work. It's more or less what Cameron should have recommended after his "negotiation" got nowhere.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,346
    I hope you all followed me in when I tipped SCON 9.5+ seats at 20/1 in a thread header?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,682
    hunchman said:

    MaxPB said:

    SeanT said:

    Call me Mr Political Geekypants, but this is an incredibly compelling election. So much of our national future depends on the nuances of every single constituency result - from the Union to Brexit to possible communist takeover.

    I think we'll be able to avoid the latter, the union looks like it's been saved but Brexit is the big question. Hopefully we're heading for soft Brexit. Global Britain, I hope.
    We won't once the EU starts collapsing in fairly short order. The EU is fu**ed in so many ways.
    Yes, Beppe Grillo must have an excellent chance of becoming Italian PM next year if the populist wave continues there
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,525
    The next leader of the Lib Dems wins her seat back.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    kle4 said:

    12 year old Tory the candidate in East Ren. Not even close, exit poll had it SLAB IIRC

    Trust me, Paul is a little older than he looks. He's a great addition to Parliament.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,288
    Don Valley Lab
  • Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928
    edited June 2017

    Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.

    Agreed. Not sticking two fingers up to foreigners on the cliffs of Dover and pandering to the Mail and Sun would be a decent start.
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,893
    How on earth have Labour gained High Peak? Such unfavourable demographics
  • spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,551
    https://twitter.com/IanClarke41/status/872992448355729409

    Normal Lamb could hold onto Norfolk North.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Hastings and Rye must be on a knife-edge.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,736
    Con now +1

    6 gains
    5 losses
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,106
    How long before Nicola resigns - Malc having an early night by the looks of it
  • BlueberryBlueberry Posts: 408
    Lab hold Vauxhall - ITV
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693

    Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.

    Tuition fees back down to £3k.
  • High Peak (Derbyshire) lost by Tories. Was 5k majority.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    So happy for Jo Swinson.

    Cantebury: YouGov, I'm so sorry
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    EPG said:

    AndyJS said:

    Sinn Fein gain Foyle. Perhaps a sympathy vote to the memory of Martin McGuinness who used to be the SF candidate there for many elections.

    Middle-class Catholics / Nationalists are just sick of the endless scowling from Arlene Foster's unionism. The SDLP couldn't satisfy that demand and keep unionist tactical votes, it looks like they lost a bit of both.
    Thats balls, Sinn Fein were always going to do this, they've been wearing the SDLP down in Derry for near 8 years now., long before Arlene was on the scene.

    I thought they'd do it in 2015. I was two years out.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264

    Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.

    Pledge to immediately cut tuition fees to £3k and a lot would come back. Eliminate them completely for first time graduates would be even better.
  • Carolus_RexCarolus_Rex Posts: 1,414
    IanB2 said:

    Don Valley Lab

    Boo hiss.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    midwinter said:

    Mortimer said:

    Swinson wins!

    What are you thinking? Tiny majority? Just short?
    Majority of 2 of 4.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,635

    Coventry South

    Lab +12.8
    Con +3.2

    Yes, young constituency. Shame for my Dad though as he worked it hard.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,726
    Pulpstar said:

    UGH Sinn Fein GAIN Foyle.

    Northern Ireland <.<</p>

    What a pity.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,317

    RobD said:

    EDW20000 said:

    May must be writing her goodbye speech

    Without a doubt. How long do Tory leadership elections take again?
    She should go by lunchtime.

    But she might not.
    No, the rules for eligibility needs to change first.
    Ruthie?
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844
    Radio Oxford reporting that LDs have taken Witney...
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Glasgow NE falls!
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