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  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Could you email me a copy please? Do you have my email? Also where would someone put in results as they come in? Or are you staying up all night to fill it out?
    I don't have your email address at the moment. I'm going to be filling in my Labour defence sheet during the night.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VAUtJZzfnfYS_uarczPdRBJ1XgVNGfvyBU6Adz5YDGc/edit#gid=0
  • Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928
    Andrew said:

    Sensible option would be +3, since the next lowest is now +4. Gives em some chance of being most accurate, and a 2point move is kinda meaningless on a 1k sample.
    It's an 11,000 sample I think – sure Lyons said that on DP.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    If Corbyn gets in, then that's Paul Mason on our screens for the next 5 years then....

    He'll probably be on our screens for the next 5 years whatever happens.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    isam said:

    They're not as serious as that.
    No, name calling is infinitely worse than stabbing someone in the eye or running them over.
  • TypoTypo Posts: 195
    Floater said:

    Does he class all the terror attacks and foiled terror attacks as hate crimes?
    A claim that is once again all too predictable (see Brexit aftermath) and handy for the Mayor of London to deflect more inconvenient questions about integration of ethnic minorities.

    Allegations are not convictions. Was there any actual evidence that hate crime convictions rose following the Brexit vote? I recall lots of anecdotes presented as fact by the MSM.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Two seats I didn't comment on last night as Labour holds - Chorley - think Lindsay Hoyle personal vote will just about see him through there, plus Chorley has been drifting long term to Labour over the past 20-30 years. Harrow West - I've got this down as a Labour hold, I assume that the demographics there are still shifting towards Labour and Gareth Thomas looks to be well dug in there. Does anyone have more info on either of those?
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    edited June 2017
    AndyJS said:

    I don't have your email address at the moment. I'm going to be filling in my Labour defence sheet during the night.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VAUtJZzfnfYS_uarczPdRBJ1XgVNGfvyBU6Adz5YDGc/edit#gid=0
    That's interesting. That looks totally different and I have links like file etc. Can you post your link to the election night sheet please.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    AndyJS said:

    He'll probably be on our screens for the next 5 years whatever happens.
    True. He's made Newsnight (this time round) that bit more interesting I have to say, despite disagreeing with quite a few of his views.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,594
    AndyJS said:

    He'll probably be on our screens for the next 5 years whatever happens.
    Mid life crisis leather jackets don't pay for themselves.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    hunchman said:

    Two seats I didn't comment on last night as Labour holds - Chorley - think Lindsay Hoyle personal vote will just about see him through there, plus Chorley has been drifting long term to Labour over the past 20-30 years. Harrow West - I've got this down as a Labour hold, I assume that the demographics there are still shifting towards Labour and Gareth Thomas looks to be well dug in there. Does anyone have more info on either of those?

    Harrow W - I live near there - we (CON) have no chance

    Don't suppose when Gareth overturned a CON maj of 18,000 in 1997 he would be looking forward to a 6th term! :lol:
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    kle4 said:

    Mid life crisis leather jackets don't pay for themselves.
    Clearly trying to imitate Yannis Varoufakis.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2017
    Benedict:

    It's the running totals for the 2015 election with declaration times.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OmJVW05bWEn2a9ak4BJGe_6Jm_u2qdN9DK0GqqeV8Gg/edit#gid=0
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900


    It's an 11,000 sample I think – sure Lyons said that on DP.

    Would be good if that's the case - really they should all do that for their final poll. I see Surveymonkey did (also 11k), and Panelbase went 1k>3k. ICM only 1500 final though, seems a little cheap, given that's the number everyone will judge you on.
  • SaltireSaltire Posts: 525

    Many Scottish seats declare 2am to 4 am. Edinburgh and Glasgow do centralised counts, so depending on turnout can be 4am to 6am.

    Berwickshire, R & S is normally last.
    I would expect the Scottish counts to be much the same timings as in 2015 since there were no local elections then either.
    Edinburgh always takes longer than it should for no apparent reason since the counting centre is no more than 30minutes from almost any part of the city. Glasgow seats tend to have many fewer actual votes they will be quicker.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Ave_it said:

    Survation - Eye of the Tiger :lol:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4

    @Ave_it Bed time!!!!! You are going to be joining us and staying up all of tomorrow night I hope?
  • Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928
    Ave_it said:

    Survation - Eye of the Tiger :lol:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4

    LOL!!
  • asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,276

    Any recommendations for a safe constituency I park some of my bank balance for a short term tax free easy return ?

    Norwich South Lab 1/4 SkyBet looks good to me.

    Really no such thing, no money is easy or safe
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Ave_it said:

    Harrow W - I live near there - we (CON) have no chance

    Don't suppose when Gareth overturned a CON maj of 18,000 in 1997 he would be looking forward to a 6th term! :lol:
    I remember that result in 1997 extremely well. As a young Tory activist in Eltham, that one left me speechless. The swings that Blair achieved in mid to outer London were spectacular. It really bears no resemblance demographically to the seat that Hugh Dykes won back in 1992!
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Halifax?
    Penistone & Stocksbridge?
    Middlesborough S?
    Blackpool S?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwtSdJaPCSI

    :lol:
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    edited June 2017
    Ave_it said:

    BOOM

    Argyll & Bute CON

    You heard it here first

    DYOR

    SNP hold as they come through the middle with Lib Dem and Tories splitting the Unionist vote IMO.
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    AndyJS said:

    Benedict:

    It's the running totals for the 2015 election with declaration times.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OmJVW05bWEn2a9ak4BJGe_6Jm_u2qdN9DK0GqqeV8Gg/edit#gid=0

    Fantastic that links works great. I presume I am going to have to add columns for 2017 to make it work for this time? (To keep some sort of running score) not that I am that good at spreadsheets.
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    Dadge said:

    I thought the Sun front page was bad, but the Guardian front page is damning.

    Damning as in not overtly backing Corbyn on the front page?
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    So we have Tory poll leads from 12 -1.
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    I think I'll call that "brave". We'll see tomorrow.
  • MonkeysMonkeys Posts: 766

    So we have Tory poll leads from 12 -1.

    I concur with that range
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,359
    CON SURGE! +1

    :D
  • OchEyeOchEye Posts: 1,469
    Cyclefree said:

    OTOH the Tories are now sending leaflets out highlighting Labour's garden/council tax increases and what it will cost the average NW6 homeowner - about £12,000 p.a.
    Reports are coming in that May, Johnson, Paul Dacre and the London editor of the Sun have all been reported to the police for being in contravention of the People's Act. From what I can understand, it is to passing off as true, the unsubstantiated and incorrect, acts, actions and words of other candidates in an election. And yes, it is serious. A recent case after a GE when a returning cabinet minister was forced to stand down from his seat, causing a by-election, and I gather, his imprisonment.
    Ps: The Sun in Scotland supports the SNP.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207

    I think I'll call that "brave". We'll see tomorrow.
    LOL - really ?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2017

    Any recommendations for a safe constituency I park some of my bank balance for a short term tax free easy return ?

    Norwich South Lab 1/4 SkyBet looks good to me.

    Lab, Exeter: 1/4.
    Con, Torbay: 1/6.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,526
    How do I get a ticket to the polling disaster inquiry MK II?
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944

    So we have Tory poll leads from 12 -1.

    I would say one is bound to be near. I suspect not though.
  • Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928
    Survation

    CON 41 (+1)
    LAB 40 (+1)
    LIB 8 (=)
    KIP 2 (-3)
    GRN 2 (=)
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,594
    And a mere 0.9 lead (for what that is worth) in the unrounded percentages.

    Well, Survation are bound to get the bragging rights if the result is anywhere from Lab lead to 3-4 lead.
  • RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    edited June 2017
    Brom said:

    Damning as in not overtly backing Corbyn on the front page?
    No - as in the text. Talking of ICM final poll, 50-100 majority for Con and urging caution on leadership challenges before listing the main runners/riders.

    Not much of a motivational early morning read for the faithful.... although most of them will be reaching for the Morning Star with their cornflakes I guess.



  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Floater said:

    Does he class all the terror attacks and foiled terror attacks as hate crimes?
    Is 100% of the rise attributable to one tweeter from Pennsylvania Avenue?
  • oldpoliticsoldpolitics Posts: 455
    hunchman said:

    I quite like John Hemming, he's one of the better Lib Dems, particularly his work over child abuse when an MP.

    This John Hemming?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-25641247
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited June 2017
    Fair play to survation.

    I think they learned their lesson.
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    OchEye said:

    Reports are coming in that May, Johnson, Paul Dacre and the London editor of the Sun have all been reported to the police for being in contravention of the People's Act. From what I can understand, it is to passing off as true, the unsubstantiated and incorrect, acts, actions and words of other candidates in an election. And yes, it is serious. A recent case after a GE when a returning cabinet minister was forced to stand down from his seat, causing a by-election, and I gather, his imprisonment.
    Ps: The Sun in Scotland supports the SNP.
    Peoples act? None exists. Of it's for accusing Corbyn of being a friend of terrorists, then you can't involve editors in that, if it is meant to refer to the Representation of the Peoples act (1983), and besides which it isn't a false statement.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2017

    Fantastic that links works great. I presume I am going to have to add columns for 2017 to make it work for this time? (To keep some sort of running score) not that I am that good at spreadsheets.
    To be honest I don't think it's possible to do it live on the night for more than about 20 results because they just come in too quickly. Only the broadcasters have the resources to do it. I'm going to compare the results they give with the spreadsheet. You could crowdsource it if you had an agreement for say 100 people to do 6 results each at different times during the night, but that would obviously require a lot of prior organisation. RodCrosby tried to organise something like that in 2010 but it didn't work out because not enough people took part.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    We came top in all the GE polls!

    Let's hope it's for real tomorrow!
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,526
    AndyJS said:

    Lab, Exeter: 1/4.
    Con, Torbay: 1/6.
    I considered Exeter as well.

    I'd rather bet on safe Labour seats in case I make a mistake.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    So just missing Ipsos, we have: 1 4 5 7 7 8 10 12. Mean of 6.75, with Ipsos perhaps to drag that down a fraction.
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    Floater said:

    LOL - really ?
    Labour on 40%? Very very very brave. What do you think Labour will get?
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    The man who predicted Brexit and Trump hinting at a Tory majority of 64 for tomorrow:

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/britain/britain-the-thursday-election/
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    AndyJS said:

    To be honest I don't think it's possible to do it live on the night for more than about 20 results because they just come in too quickly. Only the broadcasters have the resources to do it. I'm going to compare the results they give with the spreadsheet. You could crowdsource it if you had an agreement for say 100 people to do 6 results each at different times during the night, but that would obviously require a lot of prior organisation. RodCrosby tried to organise something like that in 2010 but it didn't work out because not enough people took part.
    Many thanks. Very helpful though :)
  • DadgeDadge Posts: 2,052
    hunchman said:

    Was looking at Hemming's twitter feed today. No better example of 'pavement' politics in action than Yardley and the Lib Dem advance. Jess Phillips high public profile helps, and she's just too far ahead from last time. I think the majority may get cut, but no realistic prospect of a Lib Dem gain. I quite like John Hemming, he's one of the better Lib Dems, particularly his work over child abuse when an MP.
    Jess was nailed on from day 1 and will increase her majority. I've met John a few times and I'm unusual in that I like both of them. In some ways this contest has been unfortunate because it's drained Labour volunteers away from the more difficult contests in Northfield and Edgbaston.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,329
    Floater said:

    No, name calling is infinitely worse than stabbing someone in the eye or running them over.
    "Vans & knives take innocent lives, but names will get you headlines"
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    I do admire tse managing to make a classic David Ed miliband error in his podcast debut. Bravo. That's almost spursy.... enjoyable listen but Mrs scrap who is the 5 mins a week interest in politics usually thought you were al a bitl too harsh on t may...
  • Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928
    Disappointing poll.

    I was hoping for

    KIP 0 (-5)

    Still a day to go, however.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591

    This John Hemming?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-25641247
    Don't get me started on what I think of the family courts!
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,526
    I did some calculations a few weeks back and in every election from 1974 onwards in the final result the Conservatives bettered both their lowest poll rating and worst position against Labour.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    So not a single lab lead in any poll through a whole campaign. Good night...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,594

    So not a single lab lead in any poll through a whole campaign. Good night...

    Just the rigged system trying to ignore the Corbyn surge.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Dadge said:

    Jess was nailed on from day 1 and will increase her majority. I've met John a few times and I'm unusual in that I like both of them. In some ways this contest has been unfortunate because it's drained Labour volunteers away from the more difficult contests in Northfield and Edgbaston.
    Agreed Jess 11,000 clear
  • RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    edited June 2017
    It's Polling Day!

    Happy hunting to all those involved in the ground war today.

    BBC News website cleared of anything political... always seems strangely clean after all the recent content.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2017
    From the VoteUK forum:

    BMG for The Herald:

    Con 46%
    Lab 33%
    LD 8%
    UKIP 5%
    Green 3%

    Is this a usual polling organisation? Never heard of them.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411

    I considered Exeter as well.

    I'd rather bet on safe Labour seats in case I make a mistake.
    LOL LAB 1-100 Exeter would be my estimate DYOR
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Dadge said:

    Jess was nailed on from day 1 and will increase her majority. I've met John a few times and I'm unusual in that I like both of them. In some ways this contest has been unfortunate because it's drained Labour volunteers away from the more difficult contests in Northfield and Edgbaston.
    What do you think of Erdington? I've got Edgbaston and Northfield as Tory gains, but I think Erdington will prove just out of reach. And invisible Tom Watson to hold on to West Bromwich East I think as well.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207

    Labour on 40%? Very very very brave. What do you think Labour will get?
    All I can really say is that the tories will end up with a majority larger than they have now.

    Did you see that link from the Colchester paper I posted earlier - aparantly Labour ahead in the East :-)
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2017

    I considered Exeter as well.

    I'd rather bet on safe Labour seats in case I make a mistake.
    Wirral South is probably going to stay Labour.

    Torfaen: Lab 2/9.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,674
    AndyJS said:

    From the VoteUK forum:

    BMG for The Herald:

    Con 46%
    Lab 33%
    LD 8%
    UKIP 5%
    Green 3%

    Is this a usual polling organisation? Never heard of them.

    They were around at GE2015
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,674

    So not a single lab lead in any poll through a whole campaign. Good night...

    Not since late April 2016...
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Good night all. Good luck to all those PB'ers pounding the streets tomorrow. Make sure you've got a spare cagoule when you get drenched! Can't wait for 21 hours and 55 minutes time now!
  • brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    edited June 2017
    AndyJS said:

    From the VoteUK forum:

    BMG for The Herald:

    Con 46%
    Lab 33%
    LD 8%
    UKIP 5%
    Green 3%

    Is this a usual polling organisation? Never heard of them.

    Yeah they're a BPC pollster, just not done any national ones this campaign. Done a few Scottish polls.
  • RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621

    Many thanks. Very helpful though :)
    I wondered how you managed it on May 4th?
  • Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928
    @TSE sounds nothing like what I expected him to.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,526
    AndyJS said:

    From the VoteUK forum:

    BMG for The Herald:

    Con 46%
    Lab 33%
    LD 8%
    UKIP 5%
    Green 3%

    Is this a usual polling organisation? Never heard of them.

    Seem to be.

    The Herald uses them:

    https://twitter.com/bmgresearch?lang=en
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,674

    Survation

    CON 41 (+1)
    LAB 40 (+1)
    LIB 8 (=)
    KIP 2 (-3)
    GRN 2 (=)

    Must be an outlier ;)
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,772
    There's a poll by Qriously giving Lab a 3% lead - it's on Wiki.

    http://www.wired.co.uk/article/election-polls-labour-conservative-winner
  • isamisam Posts: 41,329
    kle4 said:

    And a mere 0.9 lead (for what that is worth) in the unrounded percentages.

    Well, Survation are bound to get the bragging rights if the result is anywhere from Lab lead to 3-4 lead.
    Ukip down 10 and Cons only up 4 from 2015?
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    No. Never heard of them. Besides you can see the other bit about being close to other polls. Well, only survation now.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Ave_it said:

    Halifax?
    Penistone & Stocksbridge?
    Middlesborough S?
    Blackpool S?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwtSdJaPCSI

    :lol:

    I hope you didn't miss my posting that particular song on here weeks ago old boy saying to replace grim with Tory?
  • Harris_TweedHarris_Tweed Posts: 1,337
    edited June 2017
    AndyJS said:

    Probably, because there aren't any local election ballots to separate out.
    Another variable.. I wonder if there are more centralised counts this time? Three (rural) seats are in one centre for the first time round me. Which way does that work? Bigger team means faster.. or longer trek to get boxes in etc (or, I guess, a relatively *smaller* team) slows it down?

  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    BOOM! See you all tonight from about 7pm. Ave it coverage all night!
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092

    No. Never heard of them. Besides you can see the other bit about being close to other polls. Well, only survation now.
    Somebody decided to put it on Wikipedia. Wonder if it was them
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,526
    MikeL said:

    There's a poll by Qriously giving Lab a 3% lead - it's on Wiki.

    http://www.wired.co.uk/article/election-polls-labour-conservative-winner

    Is that the bollox TSE made comments about.

    And I've never heard of Qriously before.
  • ChaosOdinChaosOdin Posts: 67

    Seem to be.

    The Herald uses them:

    https://twitter.com/bmgresearch?lang=en
    The Labour Party hired them as their official pollster, which is probably why they have been so quiet publically.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422

    How do I get a ticket to the polling disaster inquiry MK II?

    You won't need a ticket.

    You'll be able to see it from Space......

    Happy Polling day and good luck to all those standing or working today - here's hoping it passes off without incident
  • ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,844
    Ave_it said:

    Harrow W - I live near there - we (CON) have no chance

    Don't suppose when Gareth overturned a CON maj of 18,000 in 1997 he would be looking forward to a 6th term! :lol:
    Harrow West is my seat - I agree it will stay red. Gareth Thomas is a good local MP - I've seen a lot more Labour posters than I have done in previous years.
  • BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944

    Somebody decided to put it on Wikipedia. Wonder if it was them
    You should be able to see who added the edit though I haven't played with Wikipedia for some time.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    edited June 2017
    MikeL said:

    There's a poll by Qriously giving Lab a 3% lead - it's on Wiki.

    http://www.wired.co.uk/article/election-polls-labour-conservative-winner

    Doesn't seem they've released the PDF tables of their poll - odd.
  • Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928
    I doubt it.

    Qriously

    LAB 41
    CON 39
    LIB 6
    SNP 4

    "London-based Qriously is an ad-tech startup with an extensive list of clients including Vodafone, Audi, B&Q and organisations like the New York Police Department. Qriously conducts surveys by sending short questionnaires via mobile phone to billions of users in a matter of seconds. Using their platform, they have been able to correctly predict the outcome of the Brexit referendum, the Italian constitutional referendum, the Dutch general election and the Turkish constitutional referendum. According to Kahler, they can theoretically reach 80 per cent of smartphone users worldwide.

    "Qriously conducted this survey between Sunday 4 June and today, interviewing 2,213 UK adults. Data was weighted on gender, age, region and income to be demographically representative."
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,677

    This John Hemming?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-25641247
    My former bridge partner. I like him, though I think he'd accept that his life has been complicated at times.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    A lot of the Oldies won't have mobile phones.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,526

    You won't need a ticket.

    You'll be able to see it from Space......

    Happy Polling day and good luck to all those standing or working today - here's hoping it passes off without incident
    LOL....If Survation are right, I will have to watch it from Canada...
  • Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928
    MikeL said:

    There's a poll by Qriously giving Lab a 3% lead - it's on Wiki.

    http://www.wired.co.uk/article/election-polls-labour-conservative-winner

    2pt lead I think 41/39
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,867
    AndyJS said:

    From the VoteUK forum:

    BMG for The Herald:

    Con 46%
    Lab 33%
    LD 8%
    UKIP 5%
    Green 3%

    Is this a usual polling organisation? Never heard of them.

    BMG were polling during the 2015 election;

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_general_election,_2015
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,852

    Doesn't seem they've released the PDF tables of their poll - odd.
    This is what they had last week with full data.

    http://www.qriously.com/blog/gap-closing-between-conservative-and-labour-parties/
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917

    @TSE sounds nothing like what I expected him to.

    I won't be listening as I don't want it to spoil the mystery. Never get too close to your heroes ;-)
  • Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928

    A lot of the Oldies won't have mobile phones.

    They claim to weight the data. You could just as easily say "a lot of youngies don't have landlines", but if the data is weighted properly it ought not matter*

    *I am not saying this poll is right – I think it's bollox, just saying'

    P.S. Does anyone still have/use a landline in their house? I haven't used one for years, I can't see the point of them
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    kle4 said:

    Just the rigged system trying to ignore the Corbyn surge.
    Like the new avatar!!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,674
    MikeL said:

    There's a poll by Qriously giving Lab a 3% lead - it's on Wiki.

    http://www.wired.co.uk/article/election-polls-labour-conservative-winner

    Nah, definitely an outlier :lol:
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