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Sadly it's a misspelling (or a Freudian slip): should be 'Maidenbower'.Ishmael_Z said:"Maidenblower" is an excellent name.
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Will be interesting if the results give any indication of the SNP vulnerabilities in the Edin SW and Edin North and Leith seats to either the Con in either or Labour in Edin North.DavidL said:
Agreed. Although Angus is quite marginal for the SNP in terms of control. Dundee looks rock solid for them. I hear that the tories in Edinburgh are quite bullish. We shall have to see.Saltire said:
I think that in Edinburgh where all 5 parties have MSPs and also prospects of having at least a few councillors plus almost no chance of anybody being in the majority leads to a much more interesting and vigorous campaign than in other parts of the country say closer to home to yourself.DavidL said:As I said earlier today my local polling station was unusually quiet this morning but there is definitely more of an election buzz on in Edinburgh. I wouldn't be surprised if turnout there was pretty good for locals held on a day when there is nothing else on.
I think that Angus is somewhat complicated by the number of independents standing and were elected last time. Notable that in 2 of the 4 person wards there are only 5 candidates - not exactly demanding conditions to get elected!0 -
@hendopolis: THE SCOTSMAN: 'Emotional' May could jeopardise Brexit deal #tomorrowspaperstoday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/860246536151814144/photo/10
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Well I've got £300 on Rotheram there to win £30.another_richard said:
You would expect the better Conservative areas in Southport and Wirral to have a higher turnout than that.Pulpstar said:
Is that good or bad for Rotheram ?Scott_P said:Good news for Corbyn?
@stephenkb: .@patrickkmaguire tells me that turnout in the metro mayor election in Liverpool was just 10% at 8pm: newstatesman.com/politics/elect…
As before, I don't think Burnham is a 1.01 shot though. Or if he is, Sion Simon is a cert. He isn't.0 -
Still not bad.Stark_Dawning said:
Sadly it's a misspelling (or a Freudian slip): should be 'Maidenbower'.Ishmael_Z said:"Maidenblower" is an excellent name.
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"Calm down, dear" would probably work well on TMay.RobD said:
Didn't he also tell her to stop being so emotional.kle4 said:
'Calls for calm on both sides'Scott_P said:@hendopolis: TGE GUARDIAN: Show respect in Brexit talks, Tusk tells May #tomorrowspaperstoday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/860244062472941570/photo/1
Tusk seems a sensible chap.0 -
Quite, he tweeted that. I asked him if he was taking the piss.Disraeli said:Donald Tusk: 'Don't let Brexit emotions get out of hand'
"These negotiations are difficult enough as they are," Mr Tusk told reporters.
"If we start arguing before they even begin, they will become impossible.
"The stakes are too high to let our emotions get out of hand because at stake are the daily lives and interests of millions of people on both sides of the channel.
"We must keep in mind that in order to succeed we need today discretion, moderation, mutual respect and a maximum of goodwill."
The call for discretion is thought to be aimed at EC President Jean-Claude Juncker, who reportedly called Mrs May "delusional" following a Downing Street dinner to discuss Brexit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-398126260 -
I think the public can understand being first past a metaphorical post.IanB2 said:
Wait, no, now I get the confusion.0 -
Hahahahaha!Scott_P said:@hendopolis: TGE GUARDIAN: Show respect in Brexit talks, Tusk tells May #tomorrowspaperstoday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/860244062472941570/photo/1
Talk about SPIN! Tusk telling everbody to calm down and the Guardian tries to spin it as directed at the British PM.
Desperate!0 -
@agcolehamilton: Crushingly low turnout in #SNP areas- 22% in Muirhouse W, whilst heavy in LibDem ones 66%-Blackhall. Look for surprises tomorrow #council170
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A few weeks ago I was discussing someone if we should start having elected judges (I'm opposed), I asked him what he thought the turnout would be in judicial elections.kle4 said:
Christ. People really want this extra layer of bureaucracy don't they?Scott_P said:Good news for Corbyn?
@stephenkb: .@patrickkmaguire tells me that turnout in the metro mayor election in Liverpool was just 10% at 8pm: newstatesman.com/politics/elect…
Some fool released a proposal to have a fourth mayor in Bristol!0 -
@faisalislam: Polls closed - "v close" in W. Midlands where Conservatives put huge effort into -Lab still think can win, its turnout "better than hoped"0
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Any suggestions as to what they should do with the unused ballot papers...?AndyJS said:
People who don't vote should stop blaming everyone else for their apathy and look to themselves IMO.Scott_P said:Good news for Corbyn?
@stephenkb: .@patrickkmaguire tells me that turnout in the metro mayor election in Liverpool was just 10% at 8pm: newstatesman.com/politics/elect…0 -
There are no Conservative areas in Southport , the Lib Dems won every ward last Mayanother_richard said:
You would expect the better Conservative areas in Southport and Wirral to have a higher turnout than that.Pulpstar said:
Is that good or bad for Rotheram ?Scott_P said:Good news for Corbyn?
@stephenkb: .@patrickkmaguire tells me that turnout in the metro mayor election in Liverpool was just 10% at 8pm: newstatesman.com/politics/elect…0 -
Ah good, I've just put down a few quid on Carmichael.Scott_P said:@agcolehamilton: Crushingly low turnout in #SNP areas- 22% in Muirhouse W, whilst heavy in LibDem ones 66%-Blackhall. Look for surprises tomorrow #council17
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Then the EU leaders are liars or fools.Scott_P said:@hendopolis: THE SCOTSMAN: 'Emotional' May could jeopardise Brexit deal #tomorrowspaperstoday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/860246536151814144/photo/1
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You'll enjoy the Scotsman's take:Disraeli said:
Hahahahaha!Scott_P said:@hendopolis: TGE GUARDIAN: Show respect in Brexit talks, Tusk tells May #tomorrowspaperstoday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/860244062472941570/photo/1
Talk about SPIN! Tusk telling everbody to calm down and the Guardian tries to spin it as directed at the British PM.
Desperate!
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/8602465361518141440 -
How does Labour know those people are actually voting Labour at the polls ?Scott_P said:@faisalislam: Polls closed - "v close" in W. Midlands where Conservatives put huge effort into -Lab still think can win, its turnout "better than hoped"
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Sorry, I had misread the previous comment,another_richard said:
Who's calling Nottinghamshire as a Conservative gain ?BigRich said:
Calling it for Con this early sounds more like expectation management to me.Chameleon said:
I would have been flabbergasted if they didn't lose control. Now them calling if for a Con majority this early would be a sign that things are going as wrong as we hope/expect,dr_spyn said:Lab in trouble in Notts?
https://twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/860242891825926145
That does not mean it wont still be bad or Very bad for labour.0 -
The clearing issue is a bit more complicated than that, and refers almost entirely to the derivative business, where people need to net trades off against each other to avoid excessive margin requirements. I'll write a piece when I'm not in bed...BenedictWhite said:
Either the Euro aspires to be a reserve currency traded where traders feel like the EU wants to bring in capital controls. London is the biggest trader in dollars, Euros and outside of China the Renimbi.williamglenn said:EU launches fresh bid to strip City of Euro trade
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/860242376081780736
I can't see how they can stop trading in London in what ever London wants to trade in. I suspect that makes the French very very angry.0 -
v good pointPulpstar said:
How does Labour know those people are actually voting Labour at the polls ?Scott_P said:@faisalislam: Polls closed - "v close" in W. Midlands where Conservatives put huge effort into -Lab still think can win, its turnout "better than hoped"
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What's going on in Maidenbower? (It's just up the road from me)Stark_Dawning said:
Sadly it's a misspelling (or a Freudian slip): should be 'Maidenbower'.Ishmael_Z said:"Maidenblower" is an excellent name.
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@britainelects: Swansea Liberal Democrats are talking of a collapse in the Labour vote.0
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The winning post in AV is 50% (of the votes cast). If someone gets 50% in the first round, they are elected. If not, the lowest candidate is eliminated and votes transferred, and this continues until someone gets to 50% of the valid votes remaining.Ishmael_Z said:
The winning post in STV is the calculated quota (total votes divided by the number of candidates plus one, rounded up). The winning post in list systems is calculated using the D'Hondt formula.
Whereas our voting system has no winning post at all! You can win with 10% of the vote if the other ten candidates get 9% of the vote each.0 -
El collapso.Scott_P said:@britainelects: Swansea Liberal Democrats are talking of a collapse in the Labour vote.
If the Labour vote REALLY has collapsed, I might have let the Tory in through the back door in my ward...0 -
Yet the Conservatives are favourites to win the constituency.MarkSenior said:
There are no Conservative areas in Southport , the Lib Dems won every ward last Mayanother_richard said:
You would expect the better Conservative areas in Southport and Wirral to have a higher turnout than that.Pulpstar said:
Is that good or bad for Rotheram ?Scott_P said:Good news for Corbyn?
@stephenkb: .@patrickkmaguire tells me that turnout in the metro mayor election in Liverpool was just 10% at 8pm: newstatesman.com/politics/elect…
Are LibDem betters a little shy ?
I'm on the LibDems to win Southport BTW.0 -
Would indicate that YouGov wasn't an outlier.Pulpstar said:
El collapso.Scott_P said:@britainelects: Swansea Liberal Democrats are talking of a collapse in the Labour vote.
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The more the eurocrats and remainers attack the PM on this the more votes will pile up for her.williamglenn said:
You'll enjoy the Scotsman's take:Disraeli said:
Hahahahaha!Scott_P said:@hendopolis: TGE GUARDIAN: Show respect in Brexit talks, Tusk tells May #tomorrowspaperstoday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/860244062472941570/photo/1
Talk about SPIN! Tusk telling everbody to calm down and the Guardian tries to spin it as directed at the British PM.
Desperate!
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/860246536151814144
If there is a lesson from Juncker's leakings it is that this should be the end of it and proper confidential negotiations take place keeping Junckers out of it. Leave it to Tusk who of course represents the Nation states who have most to lose if it hits a brick wall0 -
@faisalislam: Same Labour source claims W Midlands turnout low in more Tory areas such as Solihull/Sutton C ..not counting tonight result 6pm tomorrowPulpstar said:How does Labour know those people are actually voting Labour at the polls ?
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Polling station was dead today (Other half said it was too). Was HEAVING for the Brexit voteTheScreamingEagles said:
Would indicate that YouGov wasn't an outlier.Pulpstar said:
El collapso.Scott_P said:@britainelects: Swansea Liberal Democrats are talking of a collapse in the Labour vote.
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Community Leaders ?Pulpstar said:
How does Labour know those people are actually voting Labour at the polls ?Scott_P said:@faisalislam: Polls closed - "v close" in W. Midlands where Conservatives put huge effort into -Lab still think can win, its turnout "better than hoped"
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williamglenn said:
You'll enjoy the Scotsman's take:Disraeli said:
Hahahahaha!Scott_P said:@hendopolis: TGE GUARDIAN: Show respect in Brexit talks, Tusk tells May #tomorrowspaperstoday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/860244062472941570/photo/1
Talk about SPIN! Tusk telling everbody to calm down and the Guardian tries to spin it as directed at the British PM.
Desperate!
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/860246536151814144
Thanks for the link, william - even funnier.!0 -
I appreciate that but I can't see how they can control where the trades take place.rcs1000 said:
The clearing issue is a bit more complicated than that, and refers almost entirely to the derivative business, where people need to net trades off against each other to avoid excessive margin requirements. I'll write a piece when I'm not in bed...BenedictWhite said:
Either the Euro aspires to be a reserve currency traded where traders feel like the EU wants to bring in capital controls. London is the biggest trader in dollars, Euros and outside of China the Renimbi.williamglenn said:EU launches fresh bid to strip City of Euro trade
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/860242376081780736
I can't see how they can stop trading in London in what ever London wants to trade in. I suspect that makes the French very very angry.0 -
I'd be surprised if the Tory GOTV has failed, my Dad says he's never seen a campaign like it. And he's been through afew.Scott_P said:
@faisalislam: Same Labour source claims W Midlands turnout low in more Tory areas such as Solihull/Sutton C ..not counting tonight result 6pm tomorrowPulpstar said:How does Labour know those people are actually voting Labour at the polls ?
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Islam anti conservative - who would have thought itScott_P said:
@faisalislam: Same Labour source claims W Midlands turnout low in more Tory areas such as Solihull/Sutton C ..not counting tonight result 6pm tomorrowPulpstar said:How does Labour know those people are actually voting Labour at the polls ?
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@Paul_D1963: Back from voting. Was @UKLabour local candidate 2015 but can’t support #Corbyn. Voted #LibDems #Brexit #LocalElections2017 #LocalElections0
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Really? Could be a bloodbath then.Scott_P said:@britainelects: Swansea Liberal Democrats are talking of a collapse in the Labour vote.
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Would not winning W Midlands count as a bad night for the Tories? They've pushed har dand seemed very confident.0
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Christ when your own bloody candidates can't support you...Scott_P said:@Paul_D1963: Back from voting. Was @UKLabour local candidate 2015 but can’t support #Corbyn. Voted #LibDems #Brexit #LocalElections2017 #LocalElections
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LDs will make gains in Edinburgh - we managed to lose 14 of our 17 seats five years ago. But the real prize is 5 weeks time in the Westminster equivalent of Alex Cole-Hamilton's Holyrood seat and regaining Edinburgh West.Scott_P said:@agcolehamilton: Crushingly low turnout in #SNP areas- 22% in Muirhouse W, whilst heavy in LibDem ones 66%-Blackhall. Look for surprises tomorrow #council17
Poor turnout for the SNP today may well not be repeated next month but it shows there is a drop in the enthusiasm of the members for campaigning. They average about 2000 members per Westminster seat (or 200 per ward) but a lot of their wards seem only to have 3-4 people working them.0 -
In my ward in south Trafford the turnout was described as "normal" when I asked. One local election and the Manchester Mayoral.kle4 said:I'm genuinely worried there could be some really pathetic turnout in a lot of places. Had a 21% in one ward in Wiltshire last time, and turnout down in all but 1ward. could see plenty going sub 20%.
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Given that in 2013 UKIP were at their peak, and the near total levels of them transferring to the Tories, I'm predicting a total bloodbath tonight for Lab in terms of seats held.0
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That fits, Swansea is very wwc I think. So too is my manor.Gallowgate said:
People can't bear to come out and vote Labour.0 -
There are no trams in Southport, since 2015MarkSenior said:
There are no Conservative areas in Southport , the Lib Dems won every ward last Mayanother_richard said:
You would expect the better Conservative areas in Southport and Wirral to have a higher turnout than that.Pulpstar said:
Is that good or bad for Rotheram ?Scott_P said:Good news for Corbyn?
@stephenkb: .@patrickkmaguire tells me that turnout in the metro mayor election in Liverpool was just 10% at 8pm: newstatesman.com/politics/elect…
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I can't believe I laid Andy Burnham at 1.01.
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OK thanks got you now!IanB2 said:
The winning post in AV is 50% (of the votes cast). If someone gets 50% in the first round, they are elected. If not, the lowest candidate is eliminated and votes transferred, and this continues until someone gets to 50% of the valid votes remaining.Ishmael_Z said:
The winning post in STV is the calculated quota (total votes divided by the number of candidates plus one, rounded up). The winning post in list systems is calculated using the D'Hondt formula.
Whereas our voting system has no winning post at all! You can win with 10% of the vote if the other ten candidates get 9% of the vote each.0 -
You stood as a limp dump?Pulpstar said:
El collapso.Scott_P said:@britainelects: Swansea Liberal Democrats are talking of a collapse in the Labour vote.
If the Labour vote REALLY has collapsed, I might have let the Tory in through the back door in my ward...0 -
Tories are clear favourites in the betting. Gove sounds fairly hopeful on LBC.Chameleon said:
Nah, WM is very demographically friendly to Lab. Gaining a majority in fewer than 10 more councils than 2013 counts as a bad result in my book.kle4 said:Would not winning W Midlands count as a bad night for the Tories? They've pushed har dand seemed very confident.
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Nah. West Midlands mayoral election held on same boundaries as last year's W Mids PCC election (UKIP also standing)kle4 said:Would not winning W Midlands count as a bad night for the Tories? They've pushed har dand seemed very confident.
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CheekyCasino_Royale said:
You stood as a limp dump?Pulpstar said:
El collapso.Scott_P said:@britainelects: Swansea Liberal Democrats are talking of a collapse in the Labour vote.
If the Labour vote REALLY has collapsed, I might have let the Tory in through the back door in my ward...
Yes, we wanted a full slate. And the party isn't so massive here 
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No-one can be arsed for these elections.Pulpstar said:
Polling station was dead today (Other half said it was too). Was HEAVING for the Brexit voteTheScreamingEagles said:
Would indicate that YouGov wasn't an outlier.Pulpstar said:
El collapso.Scott_P said:@britainelects: Swansea Liberal Democrats are talking of a collapse in the Labour vote.
My polling station was deserted this morning too.0 -
@faisalislam: Result 6ish PM tomorrow. "taking nothing for granted" but "Looking OK on paper" I'm told by Team AB https://twitter.com/mattjspencer93/status/860247806539431936Pulpstar said:I can't believe I laid Andy Burnham at 1.01.
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Should I highlight your ward on the google doc?Pulpstar said:
CheekyCasino_Royale said:
You stood as a limp dump?Pulpstar said:
El collapso.Scott_P said:@britainelects: Swansea Liberal Democrats are talking of a collapse in the Labour vote.
If the Labour vote REALLY has collapsed, I might have let the Tory in through the back door in my ward... Yes, we wanted a full slate. And the party isn't so massive here 
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I think people underestimate just how tough this should have been for Street. For him to win would be an earthquake. It is NOT the western half of the midlands region.Chameleon said:
Nah, WM is very demographically friendly to Lab. Gaining a majority in fewer than 10 more councils than 2013 counts as a bad result in my book.kle4 said:Would not winning W Midlands count as a bad night for the Tories? They've pushed har dand seemed very confident.
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Presumably a lot of those people who had not voted in years, but voted in the referendum last year, have gone back to non voting.
Or do you think that they might have gotten a taste for it?0 -
My wife, an Italian socialist, voted Labour by mistake...she was so annoyed with herself, such is his visceral loathing of Corbyn.....Pulpstar said:
That fits, Swansea is very wwc I think. So too is my manor.Gallowgate said:
People can't bear to come out and vote Labour.
At least I managed to get into the Green box.....
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There are still some (in my opinion) insanely good bets to be had on size of Con majority.Chameleon said:Given that in 2013 UKIP were at their peak, and the near total levels of them transferring to the Tories, I'm predicting a total bloodbath tonight for Lab in terms of seats held.
Even the worst baxtering of the polls so far comes up at +150 seats and you can still get 6.4 (150-174) and 7 (175-199) on betfair.
Those odds have come in sharply today by the way, I got another tenner on the Tories at 175 - 199 at 12.5 earlier today.
If we assume the results tonight predict a labour bloodbath those odds will shorten much further tomorrow.
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No need to worry, I've greened up.Scott_P said:
@faisalislam: Result 6ish PM tomorrow. "taking nothing for granted" but "Looking OK on paper" I'm told by Team AB https://twitter.com/mattjspencer93/status/860247806539431936Pulpstar said:I can't believe I laid Andy Burnham at 1.01.
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Go Cllr Pulpstar! LibDem surge coming your way...Pulpstar said:
CheekyCasino_Royale said:
You stood as a limp dump?Pulpstar said:
El collapso.Scott_P said:@britainelects: Swansea Liberal Democrats are talking of a collapse in the Labour vote.
If the Labour vote REALLY has collapsed, I might have let the Tory in through the back door in my ward... Yes, we wanted a full slate. And the party isn't so massive here 0 -
Pulpstar said:
CheekyCasino_Royale said:
You stood as a limp dump?Pulpstar said:
El collapso.Scott_P said:@britainelects: Swansea Liberal Democrats are talking of a collapse in the Labour vote.
If the Labour vote REALLY has collapsed, I might have let the Tory in through the back door in my ward... Yes, we wanted a full slate. And the party isn't so massive here 
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Some, maybe, but call me cynical I don't think many. The only previous non-voter I am sure of said they'd never vote again, and hasn't for the locals, although they are now saying they will vote in the GE to 'Stop Corbyn'.Disraeli said:Presumably a lot of those people who had not voted in years, but voted in the referendum last year, have gone back to non voting.
Or do you think that they might have gotten a taste for it?0 -
West Midlands shouldn't be close if the Labour meltdown is true.0
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Clay Cross North is the one to watch in North East Derbyshire.IanB2 said:
Go Cllr Pulpstar! LibDem surge coming your way...Pulpstar said:
CheekyCasino_Royale said:
You stood as a limp dump?Pulpstar said:
El collapso.Scott_P said:@britainelects: Swansea Liberal Democrats are talking of a collapse in the Labour vote.
If the Labour vote REALLY has collapsed, I might have let the Tory in through the back door in my ward... Yes, we wanted a full slate. And the party isn't so massive here 0 -
If her box is green, see an STD specialist.tyson said:
My wife, an Italian socialist, voted Labour by mistake...she was so annoyed with herself, such is his visceral loathing of Corbyn.....Pulpstar said:
That fits, Swansea is very wwc I think. So too is my manor.Gallowgate said:
People can't bear to come out and vote Labour.
At least I managed to get into the Green box.....
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If they've gotten a taste for it then the polls will likely be off by a sizeable amount. I think that its perfectly credible to believe that just because they haven't voted tonight doesn't mean that they won't vote in the GE.Disraeli said:Presumably a lot of those people who had not voted in years, but voted in the referendum last year, have gone back to non voting.
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Well done him if he wins then. He seems a very credible candidate.Pulpstar said:
I think people underestimate just how tough this should have been for Street. For him to win would be an earthquake. It is NOT the western half of the midlands region.Chameleon said:
Nah, WM is very demographically friendly to Lab. Gaining a majority in fewer than 10 more councils than 2013 counts as a bad result in my book.kle4 said:Would not winning W Midlands count as a bad night for the Tories? They've pushed har dand seemed very confident.
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How do you manage to vote for the wrong party by mistake ?tyson said:
My wife, an Italian socialist, voted Labour by mistake...she was so annoyed with herself, such is his visceral loathing of Corbyn.....Pulpstar said:
That fits, Swansea is very wwc I think. So too is my manor.Gallowgate said:
People can't bear to come out and vote Labour.
At least I managed to get into the Green box.....0 -
The ~2 million non GE voting Brexiteers don't bother for small time elections.Chameleon said:
If they've gotten a taste for it then the polls will likely be off by a sizeable amount. I think that its perfectly credible to believe that just because they haven't voted tonight doesn't mean that they won't vote in the GE.Disraeli said:Presumably a lot of those people who had not voted in years, but voted in the referendum last year, have gone back to non voting.
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careful-could mean you're elected! (o.k so it's scotland but still...)Pulpstar said:
Ah good, I've just put down a few quid on Carmichael.Scott_P said:@agcolehamilton: Crushingly low turnout in #SNP areas- 22% in Muirhouse W, whilst heavy in LibDem ones 66%-Blackhall. Look for surprises tomorrow #council17
Alistar do we think many libdems could vote 1) libdem 2) tory 3) Labour or not?0 -
Strong and (un)stable...
@RobDotHutton: David Davis tells #bbcqt that May was goaded into accusing the EU of interference by stories in the Times and the FT.
@RobDotHutton: Basically, he's saying we're having a diplomatic row that's the fault of @JeremyCliffe, @oliver_wright and @alexebarker.0 -
Well it depends how Labour is melting down. There's relatively few WWC, and a lot more BMEs, the former which have gone over the Con heavily, while the latter haven't.Casino_Royale said:West Midlands shouldn't be close if the Labour meltdown is true.
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Labour meltdown and yet 30% in the polls....0
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I voted LAB once! That was a mistake!another_richard said:
How do you manage to vote for the wrong party by mistake ?tyson said:
My wife, an Italian socialist, voted Labour by mistake...she was so annoyed with herself, such is his visceral loathing of Corbyn.....Pulpstar said:
That fits, Swansea is very wwc I think. So too is my manor.Gallowgate said:
People can't bear to come out and vote Labour.
At least I managed to get into the Green box.....
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She was speaking to her mum before....trust me, you could do the same.....another_richard said:
How do you manage to vote for the wrong party by mistake ?tyson said:
My wife, an Italian socialist, voted Labour by mistake...she was so annoyed with herself, such is his visceral loathing of Corbyn.....Pulpstar said:
That fits, Swansea is very wwc I think. So too is my manor.Gallowgate said:
People can't bear to come out and vote Labour.
At least I managed to get into the Green box.....
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Re. Scotch turnout, fwiw partner was manning a polling station in the West End of Glasgow; their turnout 42%, adjacent one 50% which seem high for locals.0
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So annoyed that she changed sex! (Just leg pulling)tyson said:
My wife, an Italian socialist, voted Labour by mistake...she was so annoyed with herself, such is his visceral loathing of Corbyn.....Pulpstar said:
That fits, Swansea is very wwc I think. So too is my manor.Gallowgate said:
People can't bear to come out and vote Labour.
At least I managed to get into the Green box.....0 -
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.Scott_P said:
@faisalislam: Result 6ish PM tomorrow. "taking nothing for granted" but "Looking OK on paper" I'm told by Team AB https://twitter.com/mattjspencer93/status/860247806539431936Pulpstar said:I can't believe I laid Andy Burnham at 1.01.
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It's finding out so quickly that is the unusual bit?another_richard said:
How do you manage to vote for the wrong party by mistake ?tyson said:
My wife, an Italian socialist, voted Labour by mistake...she was so annoyed with herself, such is his visceral loathing of Corbyn.....Pulpstar said:
That fits, Swansea is very wwc I think. So too is my manor.Gallowgate said:
People can't bear to come out and vote Labour.
At least I managed to get into the Green box.....0 -
I like Leanne, and would happily listen to her whatever she is talking about.Mortimer said:
Ha. Better than me - laid at 1.02, very good value.Pulpstar said:I can't believe I laid Andy Burnham at 1.01.
What was the backer thinking ? Were they thinking ?
Changing topic - Davis is enjoying QT. Wood talking balls about Welsh interests...0 -
Burnham might well win simply because
Well can anyone here actually name his challenger ?0 -
As much as I hate to say it, David Davis is really quite good.......Mortimer said:
Ha. Better than me - laid at 1.02, very good value.Pulpstar said:I can't believe I laid Andy Burnham at 1.01.
What was the backer thinking ? Were they thinking ?
Changing topic - Davis is enjoying QT. Wood talking balls about Welsh interests...
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Verification complete for Newport North on Isle of Wight!
It's happening
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Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.AndyJS said:
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.Scott_P said:
@faisalislam: Result 6ish PM tomorrow. "taking nothing for granted" but "Looking OK on paper" I'm told by Team AB https://twitter.com/mattjspencer93/status/860247806539431936Pulpstar said:I can't believe I laid Andy Burnham at 1.01.
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@tnewtondunn: The weirdness of #GE2017: a friend at a BBC national outlet tells me they rang 70 different Labour MPs to come on yesterday. None agreed.0
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You got 30% in 2015 - remind me who won?IanB2 said:Labour meltdown and yet 30% in the polls....
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She is hopeless as is Plaid - going nowhereIanB2 said:
I like Leanne, and would happily listen to her whatever she is talking about.Mortimer said:
Ha. Better than me - laid at 1.02, very good value.Pulpstar said:I can't believe I laid Andy Burnham at 1.01.
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Labour is well under a hundred if Burnham loses I think.Chameleon said:
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.AndyJS said:
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.Scott_P said:
@faisalislam: Result 6ish PM tomorrow. "taking nothing for granted" but "Looking OK on paper" I'm told by Team AB https://twitter.com/mattjspencer93/status/860247806539431936Pulpstar said:I can't believe I laid Andy Burnham at 1.01.
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Sean Anstee.Pulpstar said:Burnham might well win simply because
Well can anyone here actually name his challenger ?
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He is. That's why I voted for him to be leader.tyson said:
As much as I hate to say it, David Davis is really quite good.......Mortimer said:
Ha. Better than me - laid at 1.02, very good value.Pulpstar said:I can't believe I laid Andy Burnham at 1.01.
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Propecting locals to nationals is a seriously dangerous business given the way the Westminster election is being framed.0
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Tories hold only 7 out of 28 constituencies in the WM.Casino_Royale said:West Midlands shouldn't be close if the Labour meltdown is true.
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