@michaelsavage: Hearing some pretty bad things from Wales for Labour. Also - is a shock on the way in Tees Valley mayoral race? Expected Labour win there.
West Midlands shouldn't be close if the Labour meltdown is true.
Well it depends how Labour is melting down. There's relatively few WWC, and a lot more BMEs, the former which have gone over the Con heavily, while the latter haven't.
West Midlands should be disproportionately swinging to May, if what we hear is true.
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
"Tamworth Council @TamworthCouncil 21m21 minutes ago Verification of the postal votes is now complete. Verification has now begun for today's ballot papers."
Well at least Mrs May hasn't come out today blaming the EU for forcing the Duke of Edinburgh into retirement to destabilize the monarchy. I guess that means she took her pills this morning unlike yesterday.
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
Presumably a lot of those people who had not voted in years, but voted in the referendum last year, have gone back to non voting. Or do you think that they might have gotten a taste for it?
I have spoken to a few people locally who I know voted in the referendum having not voted for donkey's years, if ever, and asked them about the GE. None of them said they would be voting. "What's the point the Tories always get in round here", pretty much sums up their feelings towards elections.
Straws in the wind, of course, and maybe in less safe territory some long-term non-voters may turn out for the GE.
That fits, Swansea is very wwc I think. So too is my manor.
People can't bear to come out and vote Labour.
My wife, an Italian socialist, voted Labour by mistake...she was so annoyed with herself, such is his visceral loathing of Corbyn.....
At least I managed to get into the Green box.....
How do you manage to vote for the wrong party by mistake ?
She was speaking to her mum before....trust me, you could do the same.....
I've done it, I was thinking to myself " must not vote for party x, must not vote for party x" then I voted for them I think because out of habit and I over thought it...asked for another ballot paper and they gave me one. Is that allowed?
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
A Scouser shouldn't be mayor of Manchester. Not right.
Hall Green - Tory candidate has been kick out of the Tory Party due to anti Semitic tweets that were discovered after nominations closed. Labour's original candidate was also barred from standing for similar concerns, but in time to be replaced by someone from another part of Birmingham, which matters in this area, and also has meant that many local activists haven't been willing to help. We Lib Dems have delivered a leaflet a week since the early march announcement of this by election.
Presumably a lot of those people who had not voted in years, but voted in the referendum last year, have gone back to non voting. Or do you think that they might have gotten a taste for it?
I have spoken to a few people locally who I know voted in the referendum having not voted for donkey's years, if ever, and asked them about the GE. None of them said they would be voting. "What's the point the Tories always get in round here", pretty much sums up their feelings towards elections.
Straws in the wind, of course, and maybe in less safe territory some long-term non-voters may turn out for the GE.
Big Tory win in the GE, on a lowish turnout.
I give it 2 hours before social media claims May has no mandate.
It only gives the final time that a council finishes counting. So Staffs is given as 1700 tomorrow, but Tamworth is counting tonight. The rest of Staffs is tomorrow. So slightly misleading.
What was the backer thinking ? Were they thinking ?
Ha. Better than me - laid at 1.02, very good value.
Changing topic - Davis is enjoying QT. Wood talking balls about Welsh interests...
I like Leanne, and would happily listen to her whatever she is talking about.
Jesus. Pity those of us that live in Wales and might be affected by her loony ramblings.
She has a lovely Indian accent
There's a story behind that. I have heard that some Welsh people have been offended because they thought the Indians speaking in a Welsh accent were taking the piss.
It only gives the final time that a council finishes counting. So Staffs is given as 1700 tomorrow, but Tamworth is counting tonight. The rest of Staffs is tomorrow.
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
Are you going CON in #GE2017 Tyson?
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I am Caroline with a spot of Lucas and covered in Green now.....
Hall Green - Tory candidate has been kick out of the Tory Party due to anti Semitic tweets that were discovered after nominations closed. Labour's original candidate was also barred from standing for similar concerns, but in time to be replaced by someone from another part of Birmingham, which matters in this area, and also has meant that many local activists haven't been willing to help. We Lib Dems have delivered a leaflet a week since the early march announcement of this by election.
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
A Scouser shouldn't be mayor of Manchester. Not right.
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
A Scouser shouldn't be mayor of Manchester. Not right.
@faisalislam: ... and lo and behold, Tory source says exact opposite "turnout low in Labour strongholds" and quietly confident in W Midlands. 6pm result
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
A Scouser shouldn't be mayor of Manchester. Not right.
He's been an MP for a Greater Manchester seat for 16 years
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
Are you going CON in #GE2017 Tyson?
Hello Ave it, my old sparring comrade.....
I am Caroline with a spot of Lucas and covered in Green now.....
"Oh no! You did NOT shoot that Green Shit at me!" - Will Smith in Independence Day.
It only gives the final time that a council finishes counting. So Staffs is given as 1700 tomorrow, but Tamworth is counting tonight. The rest of Staffs is tomorrow. So slightly misleading.
And if turnout really is as low as 10% in some places then we'll get quite a few earlier than the estimate.
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
A Scouser shouldn't be mayor of Manchester. Not right.
He's not a Scouser. He's from Culcheth.
Went to school there, but he was born in Aintree and he and his family are good Evertonians. Regardless, he's not a Manc, and when it comes to it he has to prefer Liverpool to Manchester.
@faisalislam: ... and lo and behold, Tory source says exact opposite "turnout low in Labour strongholds" and quietly confident in W Midlands. 6pm result
Apparently: 'the party's own polling suggests they will retain overall control of just one council - Durham - and they are unlikely to be largest party in Nottinghamshire or Lancashire.' Referring to Labour of course.
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
A Scouser shouldn't be mayor of Manchester. Not right.
He's not a Scouser. He's from Culcheth.
Went to school there, but he was born in Aintree and he and his family are good Evertonians. Regardless, he's not a Manc, and when it comes to it he has to prefer Liverpool to Manchester.
Where you are born is not relevent, By that criterion Boris is a New Yorker. He is 100% woollyback.
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
A Scouser shouldn't be mayor of Manchester. Not right.
He's been an MP for a Greater Manchester seat for 16 years
Leigh. People there hate being in Greater Manchester. There was a wonderful vox pop after Brexit in Leigh where some old bloke playing crown green bowls went off on one about how it wasn't right that people couldn't take control of their own affairs. The interviewer thought it was an EU issue. Turned out he was complaining still about Leigh falling under Wigan metro since 1974 and wanted Leigh Town Hall back so they weren't ruled by Wiganers!
Lab 1594 LDem 706 UKIP 593 Con 388 Green 97 Yorksire 46 WEQ 49
UKIP not dead in the north?
Sheffield changed its ward boundaries in 2015 but the old Southey wards used to chalk up 75% of the vote for Labour in local elections. That score above looks like low 40s%?
Labour defeat in GM would be on a par with losing more than 100 seats at the GE.
Worse than that in my opinion. If Burnham does not win Manchester then we're looking at Labour losing a majority of its' seats.
I'd love Burnham to lose Manchester....he was the careerist twat that put his personal self interest ahead of anything in the summer putsch last year. Twat....oh yes, I said that.....
A Scouser shouldn't be mayor of Manchester. Not right.
He's not a Scouser. He's from Culcheth.
Went to school there, but he was born in Aintree and he and his family are good Evertonians. Regardless, he's not a Manc, and when it comes to it he has to prefer Liverpool to Manchester.
Where you are born is not relevent, By that criterion Boris is a New Yorker. He is 100% woollyback.
Hahahaha
Are you applying the Queens Drive rule ? Purist, I'll give you that
Apparently: 'the party's own polling suggests they will retain overall control of just one council - Durham - and they are unlikely to be largest party in Nottinghamshire or Lancashire.' Referring to Labour of course.
It'd be a hell of a fall if Durham were not Lab overall control, I'm not surprised they think that one is doable!
Apparently: 'the party's own polling suggests they will retain overall control of just one council - Durham - and they are unlikely to be largest party in Nottinghamshire or Lancashire.' Referring to Labour of course.
It'd be a hell of a fall if Durham were not Lab overall control, I'm not surprised they think that one is doable!
As you said earlier, almost a fifth of Labour seats up for grabs this year are in Durham!
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I have no money on him, so I'm free to be so bold in dismissal.
Check out the declaration times tab for links to the council election pages (adding them now...)
https://twitter.com/StaffordshireCC
"Tamworth Council @TamworthCouncil 21m21 minutes ago
Verification of the postal votes is now complete. Verification has now begun for today's ballot papers."
https://twitter.com/TamworthCouncil
And once they're up, they're up.
Here is the BBC live thread with some early coverage of some of the key battles to look out for tonight:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-wales-politics-39721454
I'll be looking for evidence of how the four NE Wales seats may turn in 5 weeks time, which we should have by 3am.
Straws in the wind, of course, and maybe in less safe territory some long-term non-voters may turn out for the GE.
I give it 2 hours before social media claims May has no mandate.
It only gives the final time that a council finishes counting. So Staffs is given as 1700 tomorrow, but Tamworth is counting tonight. The rest of Staffs is tomorrow. So slightly misleading.
Party sources in Cardiff say high-30s would be a good night for them and low-20s a bad night. https://twitter.com/jamswilliams85/status/860240397842468864 …'
Referring to Cardiff council.
Britain Elects @britainelects 14s14 seconds ago
Labour HOLD Queensferry (Flintshire).
Labour hold a seat in Flint.
I am Caroline with a spot of Lucas and covered in Green now.....
http://www.markpack.org.uk/149688/liberal-democrat-candidate-yeovil-jo-roundell-greene/
Lol that's a euphamism for massively confident.
RLB is really shouty and annoying. How did anyone ever tip her for leader?
Lab 1594
LDem 706
UKIP 593
Con 388
Green 97
Yorksire 46
WEQ 49
LDem 5% last May
UKIP 1173
Lib Dems 204
Green 192
Tories 191
TUSC 61
Last time (Highest vote, triple member ward)
Are you applying the Queens Drive rule ? Purist, I'll give you that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jsZhYyyPuI&index=14&list=PLDOjg-46K5qtaV1g3AWnK_Xq4a6wGyF-l
Suspend disbelief and enjoy the ride.
Maybe TSE could do us an AV thread?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/proportional-representation-electoral-reform-pr-labour-manifesto-jeremy-corbyn-a7715786.html