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It does show how things have changed in Scotland when the British PM is causing panic in the SNP. Normally no one notices the British PMTheuniondivvie said:
https://twitter.com/PartPeculiar/status/858287879457472512malcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding0 -
Stop being a Knut, Robert.rcs1000 said:
The Kilmarnock Kilt Kult?RobD said:
Wow.OUT said:
Like a meeting of the KKKmalcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding0 -
Turnips on a Scottish road. Who needs rocks?
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If the pollsters start buggering about with their methodology off the back of the locals, then we could be in for a polling disaster that makes 2015 look like a decent result for the industry.theakes said:Opinium Polling: methinks they are too technical even for themselves. I thought they used a panel!. (that in itself seems dangerous to me). Past voting, not sure that is going to be influential this time, I voted Conservative in 2015, aint this time and have met several of a simlair ilk.
Let us see what happens in the locals this week. Might possibly give us a better picture of actual voting rather than the diagnostics of polling technocrats.0 -
Finding sameNickPalmer said:
DYOR but as I said yesterday, I'm not finding Labour making many converts, but also not now losing many compared with last time - the Corbyn doubters are common but generally either plan to vote Labour faut de mieux or have warmed to him a bit now he's appearing as the leader of the Opposition with decent TV coverage. He has a core of 20%ish who think he's great (more than the Milifans ever mustered), plus 10%ish who are willing to go along. Saying "Do you really want a Tory landslide?" works pretty well.Black_Rook said:<
Given what else we know about the current political climate, the idea both that Labour under Corbyn is doing little or no worse than under EdM, and that the Lib Dems have received no net increase in support over Brexit whatsoever, does not seem terribly plausible. Certainly, if there's been practically no change at all, apart from half the Ukip vote going to Theresa May and a bit of chopping and changing in Scotland, then that would be very, very strange.
The really obvious change on the doorstep, though, is ex-Kippers saying they're voting Tory now. Lots of them.0 -
Time to dust of my bet365 account!chrisb said:
14/1 with Bet365!rcs1000 said:
11-1 with SkyBet!foxinsoxuk said:
Betting wise I am substantially in the green on the under 10 band. On current polling the 10/1 with PP and Ladbrokes is sadly excellent value.rcs1000 said:
My guess is that you'll be modestly - but not massively - disappointed. I continue to predict 14-15% vote share, and 13-16 seats.foxinsoxuk said:
I have been very bearish on my party. There will be a recovery but there may well be losses to ofset the gains. 15% voteshare and 20 seats would be my target.another_richard said:Doesn't seem to be going to plan for the LibDems - I'm sure they were hoping for big gains in the local elections to give them momentum to overtake Labour.
Betfair Carshalton Con 9/5 must be worth a few pounds if the Conservative lead over the LibDems is more than 30%.
I think that we will do well in the locals, and that may well give a useful bit of publicity.
Mostly it takes a week or two for memes to affect polling, so still rather early.
On the doorsteps generally a positive reception today though, so the toxicity is gone. I think we will see the return of Lab/LD/Green tactical voting, This may well make for some surprising results.0 -
Neither. I think Angus Robertson would make an excellent Prime Minister of the Progressive Alliance if Farron didn't get the gig.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?0 -
No activity for years and suddenly logs on to take top price on an obscure market.Alistair said:
Time to dust of my bet365 account!chrisb said:
14/1 with Bet365!rcs1000 said:
11-1 with SkyBet!foxinsoxuk said:
Betting wise I am substantially in the green on the under 10 band. On current polling the 10/1 with PP and Ladbrokes is sadly excellent value.rcs1000 said:
My guess is that you'll be modestly - but not massively - disappointed. I continue to predict 14-15% vote share, and 13-16 seats.foxinsoxuk said:
I have been very bearish on my party. There will be a recovery but there may well be losses to ofset the gains. 15% voteshare and 20 seats would be my target.another_richard said:Doesn't seem to be going to plan for the LibDems - I'm sure they were hoping for big gains in the local elections to give them momentum to overtake Labour.
Betfair Carshalton Con 9/5 must be worth a few pounds if the Conservative lead over the LibDems is more than 30%.
I think that we will do well in the locals, and that may well give a useful bit of publicity.
Mostly it takes a week or two for memes to affect polling, so still rather early.
On the doorsteps generally a positive reception today though, so the toxicity is gone. I think we will see the return of Lab/LD/Green tactical voting, This may well make for some surprising results.
Do you think I will be limited before or after the bet?0 -
Lib Dems on 13% with Remainers. They also have the worst 10/10 to vote numbers.0
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Angus Robertson would indeed my choice to lead Scotland. They do have good and capable leaders.foxinsoxuk said:
Neither. I think Angus Robertson would make an excellent Prime Minister of the Progressive Alliance if Farron didn't get the gig.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?0 -
Er right. OK.foxinsoxuk said:
Neither. I think Angus Robertson would make an excellent Prime Minister of the Progressive Alliance if Farron didn't get the gig.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?0 -
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.0 -
Yep. True of my experience today too.NickPalmer said:
DYOR but as I said yesterday, I'm not finding Labour making many converts, but also not now losing many compared with last time - the Corbyn doubters are common but generally either plan to vote Labour faut de mieux or have warmed to him a bit now he's appearing as the leader of the Opposition with decent TV coverage. He has a core of 20%ish who think he's great (more than the Milifans ever mustered), plus 10%ish who are willing to go along. Saying "Do you really want a Tory landslide?" works pretty well.Black_Rook said:<
Given what else we know about the current political climate, the idea both that Labour under Corbyn is doing little or no worse than under EdM, and that the Lib Dems have received no net increase in support over Brexit whatsoever, does not seem terribly plausible. Certainly, if there's been practically no change at all, apart from half the Ukip vote going to Theresa May and a bit of chopping and changing in Scotland, then that would be very, very strange.
The really obvious change on the doorstep, though, is ex-Kippers saying they're voting Tory now. Lots of them.
Of course false recall can be a factor face to face too, and Hinckley has only a smallish Labour vote.0 -
Panic? It's not the SNP hiding in a but n ben in Aberdeenshire surrounded by the geriatricBig_G_NorthWales said:
It does show how things have changed in Scotland when the British PM is causing panic in the SNP. Normally no one notices the British PMTheuniondivvie said:
https://twitter.com/PartPeculiar/status/858287879457472512malcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
faithful.
Tanks on the SNP lawn, more like a motorbike and sidecar.0 -
The Lib Dem seat bands market was insane and seemingly still is.ThreeQuidder said:
I like the sound of that. I've chucked £20 at that, split for a £39.60 return if either part comes in.rcs1000 said:Betting post:
Can I suggest a double:
Liberal Democrats under 10, at 11-1 with SkyBet.
Also, Liberal Democrats to hold Southport, 11/8 with SkyBet.
I think it's perfectly possible you win both, and I think it's unlikely that the LDs get much into double figures if they're not holding Southport.0 -
Put down your smelling salts, it's a guy in Gloucestershire that Photoshopped that.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It does show how things have changed in Scotland when the British PM is causing panic in the SNP. Normally no one notices the British PMTheuniondivvie said:
https://twitter.com/PartPeculiar/status/858287879457472512malcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
The hundreds of Yoon mock ups of Salmond & Sturgeon as Kim Jong Un & Wee Jimmy Krankie must indicate off the scale readings on the Big G panicometer.0 -
Thanks. Then no picture comes up, but no problem!RobD said:
[a href="link here"]text here[/a]Cyan said:Off-topic and meta: how can one post a workable link here to a specific time-point in a Youtube video? The software is truncating URLs with e.g. "#t=03m04s" on the end before the "m".
Replace the [ ] with < >0 -
He consistently impresses in the Commons. Presumably the PM has to be in the Commons.surbiton said:
Angus Robertson would indeed my choice to lead Scotland. They do have good and capable leaders.foxinsoxuk said:
Neither. I think Angus Robertson would make an excellent Prime Minister of the Progressive Alliance if Farron didn't get the gig.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?0 -
Ok. I know the standard of UK politician in the UK is bad, but seriously?surbiton said:
Angus Robertson would indeed my choice to lead Scotland. They do have good and capable leaders.foxinsoxuk said:
Neither. I think Angus Robertson would make an excellent Prime Minister of the Progressive Alliance if Farron didn't get the gig.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?0 -
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.0 -
On the other hand there are more than 10 seats where the LibDems are at shorter than 11/8.rcs1000 said:Betting post:
Can I suggest a double:
Liberal Democrats under 10, at 11-1 with SkyBet.
Also, Liberal Democrats to hold Southport, 11/8 with SkyBet.
I think it's perfectly possible you win both, and I think it's unlikely that the LDs get much into double figures if they're not holding Southport.
Favoured in St Ives, Bermondsey etc which would suggest its unlikely you win both and quite possible both lose ?
(Unless you think that the odds on Southport are mispriced, which they might well be even without Pugh standing)
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less than 6 weeks now!SimonStClare said:
GE2015 was bad, but with only 7 weeks to go, why tweak, adjust and generally fiddle about?Pulpstar said:
F* me, will they ever learn ?rcs1000 said:
This is the first poll where we have included a past vote weight in addition to our party propensity and EU referendum vote weights. For the most part our party propensity weighting helps to ensure the number of voters for each party in 2015 is accurately reflected in our sample. However, we have noticed some varied responses to our 2015 past vote question during the past couple of months, even after taking account of party propensity, so we have included this in our weighting targets to ensure this remains stable over the course of the campaign.
http://opinium.co.uk/political-polling-25th-april-2017/
There you go, that's exactly why they've shown the move they have.0 -
It's fine, if this is your policy:Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
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bigjohnowls said:
We are in a crisis thanks to 7 years of Tory GovtJason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Jezza every time
"Crisis? What crisis?"
As that nice Mr Callaghan said when sterling was collapsing..
Yes the country's economy is in poor shape. Growth only due to QE, a huge trade and budget deficit, cannot afford to provide basic services.
And the Tories have as a Leader someone who is at best third rate compared to the giants of the past like McMillan or Thatcher..
And you seriously think that a man who has spent all his adult life protesting and doing nothing constructive will do a better job? A man who would not rate as third rate like Mrs May but would struggle to achieve sixth rate?
I know things are dire but to suggest Corbyn would do better is a meme which questions your judgement - or your sanity...0 -
Who would attack a UK under Jezza?Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
The Russians, Islamists or PRK wouldn't want to. Possibly there may be an insurrection by the few PB Tories who survived their initial apoplexy on June 9...0 -
"Not one step back!"bigjohnowls said:
We are in a crisis thanks to 7 years of Tory GovtJason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Jezza every time0 -
Don't do panic - just quietly happy over ScotlandTheuniondivvie said:
Put down your smelling salts, it's a guy in Gloucestershire that Photoshopped that.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It does show how things have changed in Scotland when the British PM is causing panic in the SNP. Normally no one notices the British PMTheuniondivvie said:
https://twitter.com/PartPeculiar/status/858287879457472512malcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
The hundreds of Yoon mock ups of Salmond & Sturgeon as Kim Jong Un & Wee Jimmy Krankie must indicate off the scale readings on the Big G panicometer.0 -
Yes, that's a good depiction of the reality if Corbyn ever got to power. I reckon they'd try and cede the Falklands and Gibraltar back as well. Who knows what else we'd have to give up.ThreeQuidder said:
It's fine, if this is your policy:Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.0 -
I seriously doubt IS would stop wanting to attack the UK just because of Corbyn.foxinsoxuk said:
Who would attack a UK under Jezza?Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
The Russians, Islamists or PRK wouldn't want to. Possibly there may be an insurrection by the few PB Tories who survived their initial apoplexy on June 9...0 -
The odd rogue bearded loon is a police issue, not a war.RobD said:
I seriously doubt IS would stop wanting to attack the UK just because of Corbyn.foxinsoxuk said:
Who would attack a UK under Jezza?Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
The Russians, Islamists or PRK wouldn't want to. Possibly there may be an insurrection by the few PB Tories who survived their initial apoplexy on June 9...0 -
Betfair limiting under 10 at 10/1 to a fiver. Why they do that rather than shorten the odds is a mystery to me.Alistair said:
The Lib Dem seat bands market was insane and seemingly still is.ThreeQuidder said:
I like the sound of that. I've chucked £20 at that, split for a £39.60 return if either part comes in.rcs1000 said:Betting post:
Can I suggest a double:
Liberal Democrats under 10, at 11-1 with SkyBet.
Also, Liberal Democrats to hold Southport, 11/8 with SkyBet.
I think it's perfectly possible you win both, and I think it's unlikely that the LDs get much into double figures if they're not holding Southport.0 -
Actually that is a headline in the Sun - Jim Callaghan never said it.madasafish said:bigjohnowls said:
We are in a crisis thanks to 7 years of Tory GovtJason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Jezza every time
"Crisis? What crisis?"
As that nice Mr Callaghan said when sterling was collapsing..
Yes the country's economy is in poor shape. Growth only due to QE, a huge trade and budget deficit, cannot afford to provide basic services.
And the Tories have as a Leader someone who is at best third rate compared to the giants of the past like McMillan or Thatcher..
And you seriously think that a man who has spent all his adult life protesting and doing nothing constructive will do a better job? A man who would not rate as third rate like Mrs May but would struggle to achieve sixth rate?
I know things are dire but to suggest Corbyn would do better is a meme which questions your judgement - or your sanity...0 -
It would surely embolden every single enemy the world over if he was the PM. God, are we really having this conversation?RobD said:
I seriously doubt IS would stop wanting to attack the UK just because of Corbyn.foxinsoxuk said:
Who would attack a UK under Jezza?Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
The Russians, Islamists or PRK wouldn't want to. Possibly there may be an insurrection by the few PB Tories who survived their initial apoplexy on June 9...0 -
My reading of the polls now is that Labour voters who may not be enamoured of Corbyn, does not want to give the Tories a massive majority.
I am not quite sure about the Lib Dem numbers. Surely past vote maybe misleading since they crashed from 23% to 8%. So there are 15% of the population, who in the very recent past, voted Lib Dem and not being taken into account as such.
The locals would be a good indicator. Bettors better be ready around 1 am on Friday morning.0 -
'The odd rogue bearded loon..'foxinsoxuk said:
The odd rogue bearded loon is a police issue, not a war.RobD said:
I seriously doubt IS would stop wanting to attack the UK just because of Corbyn.foxinsoxuk said:
Who would attack a UK under Jezza?Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
The Russians, Islamists or PRK wouldn't want to. Possibly there may be an insurrection by the few PB Tories who survived their initial apoplexy on June 9...
Mr Corbyn?0 -
Which Friday morning? Most of the locals are counting the next day.surbiton said:My reading of the polls now is that Labour voters who may not be enamoured of Corbyn, does not want to give the Tories a massive majority.
I am not quite sure about the Lib Dem numbers. Surely past vote maybe misleading since they crashed from 23% to 8%. So there are 15% of the population, who in the very recent past, voted Lib Dem and not being taken into account as such.
The locals would be a good indicator. Bettors better be ready around 1 am on Friday morning.0 -
Jezza would certainly scale back or stop foreign deployments, Russia would love him.Jason said:
It would surely embolden every single enemy the world over if he was the PM. God, are we really having this conversation?RobD said:
I seriously doubt IS would stop wanting to attack the UK just because of Corbyn.foxinsoxuk said:
Who would attack a UK under Jezza?Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
The Russians, Islamists or PRK wouldn't want to. Possibly there may be an insurrection by the few PB Tories who survived their initial apoplexy on June 9...
There is no plausible country that we would fight.0 -
So nothing to do with who is leader then?foxinsoxuk said:
The odd rogue bearded loon is a police issue, not a war.RobD said:
I seriously doubt IS would stop wanting to attack the UK just because of Corbyn.foxinsoxuk said:
Who would attack a UK under Jezza?Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
The Russians, Islamists or PRK wouldn't want to. Possibly there may be an insurrection by the few PB Tories who survived their initial apoplexy on June 9...0 -
Israel. Maybe the US.foxinsoxuk said:
Jezza would certainly scale back or stop foreign deployments, Russia would love him.Jason said:
It would surely embolden every single enemy the world over if he was the PM. God, are we really having this conversation?RobD said:
I seriously doubt IS would stop wanting to attack the UK just because of Corbyn.foxinsoxuk said:
Who would attack a UK under Jezza?Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
The Russians, Islamists or PRK wouldn't want to. Possibly there may be an insurrection by the few PB Tories who survived their initial apoplexy on June 9...
There is no plausible country that we would fight.0 -
That's a richly ironic comment considering one of your fellow Nats upthread was complaining you were likely to be compared to terrorists.OUT said:
Like a meeting of the KKKmalcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
But don't worry, nobody will compare you to the KKK. They were well-organised. Although come to think of it, they did overreach themselves and it ended in at best partial success...0 -
Not really.RobD said:
So nothing to do with who is leader then?foxinsoxuk said:
The odd rogue bearded loon is a police issue, not a war.RobD said:
I seriously doubt IS would stop wanting to attack the UK just because of Corbyn.foxinsoxuk said:
Who would attack a UK under Jezza?Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
The Russians, Islamists or PRK wouldn't want to. Possibly there may be an insurrection by the few PB Tories who survived their initial apoplexy on June 9...
It is not a military crisis that I would fear with Corbyn in charge, it would be the financial one.0 -
The last time one wasn't was in 1963. The last time one was not in the Commons for more than a few days was 1902.foxinsoxuk said:
He consistently impresses in the Commons. Presumably the PM has to be in the Commons.surbiton said:
Angus Robertson would indeed my choice to lead Scotland. They do have good and capable leaders.foxinsoxuk said:
Neither. I think Angus Robertson would make an excellent Prime Minister of the Progressive Alliance if Farron didn't get the gig.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?0 -
How would we fight Israel?chestnut said:
Israel. Maybe the US.foxinsoxuk said:
Jezza would certainly scale back or stop foreign deployments, Russia would love him.Jason said:
It would surely embolden every single enemy the world over if he was the PM. God, are we really having this conversation?RobD said:
I seriously doubt IS would stop wanting to attack the UK just because of Corbyn.foxinsoxuk said:
Who would attack a UK under Jezza?Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
The Russians, Islamists or PRK wouldn't want to. Possibly there may be an insurrection by the few PB Tories who survived their initial apoplexy on June 9...
There is no plausible country that we would fight.
Sanctions at worse.
US - not plausible.0 -
Oh dear. Your denigration of Nicola Sturgeon will not go down well...surbiton said:
Angus Robertson would indeed my choice to lead Scotland. They do have good and capable leaders.foxinsoxuk said:
Neither. I think Angus Robertson would make an excellent Prime Minister of the Progressive Alliance if Farron didn't get the gig.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
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I was joking.foxinsoxuk said:
How would we fight Israel?chestnut said:
Israel. Maybe the US.foxinsoxuk said:
Jezza would certainly scale back or stop foreign deployments, Russia would love him.Jason said:
It would surely embolden every single enemy the world over if he was the PM. God, are we really having this conversation?RobD said:
I seriously doubt IS would stop wanting to attack the UK just because of Corbyn.foxinsoxuk said:
Who would attack a UK under Jezza?Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
The Russians, Islamists or PRK wouldn't want to. Possibly there may be an insurrection by the few PB Tories who survived their initial apoplexy on June 9...
There is no plausible country that we would fight.
Sanctions at worse.
US - not plausible.0 -
LOL, there were no local people there, no-one there knew about it. They bussed in Tory zombies. How pathetic is that.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
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A financial crisis would potentially be even more disastrous. And I wasn't talking about a war necessarily before. A terrorist attack, a cyber attack - indeed, any kind of crisis you can imagine, he would be hopelessly and destructively impotent. I reckon a decision at his Local Allotment Association would see him completely vexed.foxinsoxuk said:
Not really.RobD said:
So nothing to do with who is leader then?foxinsoxuk said:
The odd rogue bearded loon is a police issue, not a war.RobD said:
I seriously doubt IS would stop wanting to attack the UK just because of Corbyn.foxinsoxuk said:
Who would attack a UK under Jezza?Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
The Russians, Islamists or PRK wouldn't want to. Possibly there may be an insurrection by the few PB Tories who survived their initial apoplexy on June 9...
It is not a military crisis that I would fear with Corbyn in charge, it would be the financial one.0 -
Betfair have been allowing me way more than others on here have been allowed on.Ishmael_Z said:
Betfair limiting under 10 at 10/1 to a fiver. Why they do that rather than shorten the odds is a mystery to me.Alistair said:
The Lib Dem seat bands market was insane and seemingly still is.ThreeQuidder said:
I like the sound of that. I've chucked £20 at that, split for a £39.60 return if either part comes in.rcs1000 said:Betting post:
Can I suggest a double:
Liberal Democrats under 10, at 11-1 with SkyBet.
Also, Liberal Democrats to hold Southport, 11/8 with SkyBet.
I think it's perfectly possible you win both, and I think it's unlikely that the LDs get much into double figures if they're not holding Southport.0 -
Saved yourself right at the end there Fox.foxinsoxuk said:
You wouldn't be the first to make the case that Scots were responsible for founding the KKK:OUT said:
Like a meeting of the KKKmalcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/z3xhhv4
Though, before I am buried under a pile of weaponised virtual turnips, and it is an interesting piece of social history, I don't think it a convincing case.0 -
There are loads of places in the UK that have had Liberal councils but don't put Liberals into Westminster other than byelections. I'd be minded to wait a day for the markets to overreact to the local results.surbiton said:My reading of the polls now is that Labour voters who may not be enamoured of Corbyn, does not want to give the Tories a massive majority.
I am not quite sure about the Lib Dem numbers. Surely past vote maybe misleading since they crashed from 23% to 8%. So there are 15% of the population, who in the very recent past, voted Lib Dem and not being taken into account as such.
The locals would be a good indicator. Bettors better be ready around 1 am on Friday morning.0 -
You got the picture Sunil, don't be a pedant.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Kim is the surname, so it would be May Jong-un.malcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
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rcs1000 said:
The Kilmarnock Kilt Kult?RobD said:
Wow.OUT said:
Like a meeting of the KKKmalcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
0 -
Crathes Village Hall where Theresa May spoke to a hand picked gathering of Tories has Morris Dancing!
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/only-morris-dancers-scotland-offer-22044110 -
Asking people not to be pedantic on PB is like asking the sun not to rise...malcolmg said:
You got the picture Sunil, don't be a pedant.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Kim is the surname, so it would be May Jong-un.malcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
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Kim's weapons don't go off anyway, and hopefully never will.malcolmg said:
You got the picture Sunil, don't be a pedant.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Kim is the surname, so it would be May Jong-un.malcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Our politicians are in a different class. May dropped an atom bomb on the media by calling this election. Even Corbyn, we are told by the good Dr @foxinsoxuk, bangs like a belt-fed bazooka.0 -
Bet she has ordered some general to have a name change to Cumberland as well and has him learning cuts of meat and how to make sausages.RobD said:
Wow.OUT said:
Like a meeting of the KKKmalcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
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The polling bears that out. If Labour is stable, but loads of UKIP supporters go Conservative, then the Conservatives will win big.NickPalmer said:
DYOR but as I said yesterday, I'm not finding Labour making many converts, but also not now losing many compared with last time - the Corbyn doubters are common but generally either plan to vote Labour faut de mieux or have warmed to him a bit now he's appearing as the leader of the Opposition with decent TV coverage. He has a core of 20%ish who think he's great (more than the Milifans ever mustered), plus 10%ish who are willing to go along. Saying "Do you really want a Tory landslide?" works pretty well.Black_Rook said:<
Given what else we know about the current political climate, the idea both that Labour under Corbyn is doing little or no worse than under EdM, and that the Lib Dems have received no net increase in support over Brexit whatsoever, does not seem terribly plausible. Certainly, if there's been practically no change at all, apart from half the Ukip vote going to Theresa May and a bit of chopping and changing in Scotland, then that would be very, very strange.
The really obvious change on the doorstep, though, is ex-Kippers saying they're voting Tory now. Lots of them.0 -
Don't worry, after your lie about public sector/welsh speaking claim no_one will believe any thing you post.ydoethur said:
That's a richly ironic comment considering one of your fellow Nats upthread was complaining you were likely to be compared to terrorists.OUT said:
Like a meeting of the KKKmalcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
But don't worry, nobody will compare you to the KKK. They were well-organised. Although come to think of it, they did overreach themselves and it ended in at best partial success...0 -
Secret clandestine visits G, last time we saw this Churchill had Scottish soldiers confined to barracks and tanks an dsoldiers on the streets , very sinister indeed.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It does show how things have changed in Scotland when the British PM is causing panic in the SNP. Normally no one notices the British PMTheuniondivvie said:
https://twitter.com/PartPeculiar/status/858287879457472512malcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding0 -
Man the turnips ladsold_labour said:Turnips on a Scottish road. Who needs rocks?
.0 -
You do have such a humour Malcmalcolmg said:
Secret clandestine visits G, last time we saw this Churchill had Scottish soldiers confined to barracks and tanks an dsoldiers on the streets , very sinister indeed.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It does show how things have changed in Scotland when the British PM is causing panic in the SNP. Normally no one notices the British PMTheuniondivvie said:
https://twitter.com/PartPeculiar/status/858287879457472512malcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
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GIN, he better do as he is told or he will rue the day.GIN1138 said:
Asking people not to be pedantic on PB is like asking the sun not to rise...malcolmg said:
You got the picture Sunil, don't be a pedant.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Kim is the surname, so it would be May Jong-un.malcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding0 -
Here is my work so far on the Lib Dem seat markets.
https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/858384000351703040
I have been backing us in plenty of seats to counter the general selling:0 -
More sinister than the KKKold_labour said:Crathes Village Hall where Theresa May spoke to a hand picked gathering of Tories has Morris Dancing!
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/only-morris-dancers-scotland-offer-22044110 -
Macron will win but 40%-41% for Le Pen will still be a significant advance for the FN on the 18% her father got in 20020
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Ydoethur, Surbiton has good knowledge of Scottish politics and speaks lots of sense. If only the frothers had someone like him.ydoethur said:
Oh dear. Your denigration of Nicola Sturgeon will not go down well...surbiton said:
Angus Robertson would indeed my choice to lead Scotland. They do have good and capable leaders.foxinsoxuk said:
Neither. I think Angus Robertson would make an excellent Prime Minister of the Progressive Alliance if Farron didn't get the gig.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?0 -
People getting tanked up early i see, time for me to go the pub.0
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Things not going so smoothly between the Red Tories & the Blue Tories #ohdearwhatashame
https://twitter.com/EastRenTories/status/8579977568913530880 -
ROFL - If the public were that bonkers - then you would find out what a crisis looks like.bigjohnowls said:
We are in a crisis thanks to 7 years of Tory GovtJason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Jezza every time0 -
Mr. Labour, sounds like a fine, upstanding establishment.
Mr. Out, wash your mouth out with soap, young man!0 -
The PM is on Andrew Marr and Peston tomorrow. That is hardly hiding!0
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Yes, a lot of people have failed to acknowledge that she's done incredibly well so far.HYUFD said:Macron will win but 40%-41% for Le Pen will still be a significant advance for the FN on the 18% her father got in 2002
She did well in the first round, just not as well as Macron or as some of her more exuberant supporters hoped. But it was nevertheless a strong performance. If she gets 40% in the second round that will easily eclipse anything her father achieved and represent a new high-water mark for the FN.
She's not going to be President, but 40% is not to be sniffed at.0 -
Theresa May being welcomed at the village hall.
PM Theresa May arrives in north east, expected to ask Scots to vote for her to "strengthen the Union", economy & her hand in Brexit talks. pic.twitter.com/vxtFPGW0Bn
— Rebecca Curran (@rjcurran2) April 29, 20170 -
LOL, are you barking , poodle in studio with fixed menu of questions. Those two fannies will be too busy licking her butt to ask any serious questions. They will have had orders to stick to the script and keep licking when told to.LadyBucket said:The PM is on Andrew Marr and Peston tomorrow. That is hardly hiding!
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I'm waiting for The Sunil's official general election 2017 endorsement!malcolmg said:
GIN, he better do as he is told or he will rue the day.GIN1138 said:
Asking people not to be pedantic on PB is like asking the sun not to rise...malcolmg said:
You got the picture Sunil, don't be a pedant.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Kim is the surname, so it would be May Jong-un.malcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
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old_labour said:
Theresa May being welcomed at the village hall.
PM Theresa May arrives in north east, expected to ask Scots to vote for her to "strengthen the Union", economy & her hand in Brexit talks. pic.twitter.com/vxtFPGW0Bn
— Rebecca Curran (@rjcurran2) April 29, 2017
Oh dear , Mutt and jeff meet in the woods, you could not make it up0 -
No Andra Neil?LadyBucket said:The PM is on Andrew Marr and Peston tomorrow. That is hardly hiding!
The PB Tories are usually so enthusisatic about his approach.0 -
Japan's PM will continue to trust the UK economy after Brexit
http://www.aol.co.uk/news/2017/04/29/japans-premier-will-continue-to-trust-british-economy-after-br/0 -
It's a shame. Although he did have a go with her a few weeks ago.Theuniondivvie said:
No Andra Neil?LadyBucket said:The PM is on Andrew Marr and Peston tomorrow. That is hardly hiding!
The PB Tories are usually so enthusisatic about his approach.0 -
Give her a chance... We have got another five weeks to go you know!Theuniondivvie said:
No Andra Neil?LadyBucket said:The PM is on Andrew Marr and Peston tomorrow. That is hardly hiding!
The PB Tories are usually so enthusisatic about his approach.
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Certainly and the FN will use it as a springboard for the legislative elections in JunePeter_the_Punter said:
Yes, a lot of people have failed to acknowledge that she's done incredibly well so far.HYUFD said:Macron will win but 40%-41% for Le Pen will still be a significant advance for the FN on the 18% her father got in 2002
She did well in the first round, just not as well as Macron or as some of her more exuberant supporters hoped. But it was nevertheless a strong performance. If she gets 40% in the second round that will easily eclipse anything her father achieved and represent a new high-water mark for the FN.
She's not going to be President, but 40% is not to be sniffed at.0 -
"Well, that's a judgment that you are making. I promise you that if you look at it from outside, and perhaps you're taking rather a parochial view at the moment, I don't think that other people in the world would share the view that there is mounting chaos."Arthur_Penny said:
Actually that is a headline in the Sun - Jim Callaghan never said it.madasafish said:bigjohnowls said:
We are in a crisis thanks to 7 years of Tory GovtJason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Jezza every time
"Crisis? What crisis?"
As that nice Mr Callaghan said when sterling was collapsing..
Yes the country's economy is in poor shape. Growth only due to QE, a huge trade and budget deficit, cannot afford to provide basic services.
And the Tories have as a Leader someone who is at best third rate compared to the giants of the past like McMillan or Thatcher..
And you seriously think that a man who has spent all his adult life protesting and doing nothing constructive will do a better job? A man who would not rate as third rate like Mrs May but would struggle to achieve sixth rate?
I know things are dire but to suggest Corbyn would do better is a meme which questions your judgement - or your sanity...
- L. J. Callaghan's response to Evening Standard reporter's question "What is your general approach, in view of the mounting chaos in the country at the moment?", 10 January 1979; used to justify The Sun headline "Crisis? What Crisis?" on 11 January.
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Looks like there's no ComRes tonight then!
We'll just have to wait it out for YouGov...0 -
He will strip her naked.Theuniondivvie said:
No Andra Neil?LadyBucket said:The PM is on Andrew Marr and Peston tomorrow. That is hardly hiding!
The PB Tories are usually so enthusisatic about his approach.0 -
Do you know what's happening with Tory/Remain voters? Are some of them defecting to the LDs or Labour maybe?NickPalmer said:
DYOR but as I said yesterday, I'm not finding Labour making many converts, but also not now losing many compared with last time - the Corbyn doubters are common but generally either plan to vote Labour faut de mieux or have warmed to him a bit now he's appearing as the leader of the Opposition with decent TV coverage. He has a core of 20%ish who think he's great (more than the Milifans ever mustered), plus 10%ish who are willing to go along. Saying "Do you really want a Tory landslide?" works pretty well.Black_Rook said:<
Given what else we know about the current political climate, the idea both that Labour under Corbyn is doing little or no worse than under EdM, and that the Lib Dems have received no net increase in support over Brexit whatsoever, does not seem terribly plausible. Certainly, if there's been practically no change at all, apart from half the Ukip vote going to Theresa May and a bit of chopping and changing in Scotland, then that would be very, very strange.
The really obvious change on the doorstep, though, is ex-Kippers saying they're voting Tory now. Lots of them.0 -
If we can ignore the 48%, then the French can ignore the 40%.Peter_the_Punter said:
Yes, a lot of people have failed to acknowledge that she's done incredibly well so far.HYUFD said:Macron will win but 40%-41% for Le Pen will still be a significant advance for the FN on the 18% her father got in 2002
She did well in the first round, just not as well as Macron or as some of her more exuberant supporters hoped. But it was nevertheless a strong performance. If she gets 40% in the second round that will easily eclipse anything her father achieved and represent a new high-water mark for the FN.
She's not going to be President, but 40% is not to be sniffed at.
Though I think Macron will work out pretty well for France, and in 5 years their economy will have significantly recovered. I don't think the next presidential election will be fought on the same ground, and the major parties will get their act together.0 -
People seem to have short memories. Man of the people Cameron....old_labour said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/david-cameron-photos-perfectly-show-5479506
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What about a United Ireland?Jason said:
Yes, that's a good depiction of the reality if Corbyn ever got to power. I reckon they'd try and cede the Falklands and Gibraltar back as well. Who knows what else we'd have to give up.ThreeQuidder said:
It's fine, if this is your policy:Jason said:
Seriously, if this country ever came under serious attack, you'd want Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? Jesus.Cyan said:
Corbyn.Jason said:
Has Corbyn? Not that it makes any difference. Who would you want leading the country in a crisis? Be honest - Corbyn or May?foxinsoxuk said:
Except the people she met were bussed in activists, not locals.Black_Rook said:
Guardian finds whole concept that people in rural areas are worth politicians' time and effort incomprehensible. Invents silly (and politically convenient) explanation accordingly.old_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
Has she done a single meet the public event yet, anywhere?
Just their respective positions on nuclear war, let alone everything else, are enough.
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old_labour said:
Theresa May being welcomed at the village hall.
PM Theresa May arrives in north east, expected to ask Scots to vote for her to "strengthen the Union", economy & her hand in Brexit talks. pic.twitter.com/vxtFPGW0Bn
— Rebecca Curran (@rjcurran2) April 29, 2017
Is it past the Godwin watershed?
https://twitter.com/gavmacn/status/858361957644218368
Reports of a bloke with an eyepatch and a missing hand being detained cannot be confirmed.0 -
The French have a good system to keep people like her out. Even in the Legislative elections, FN will not get more than 10 seats.Peter_the_Punter said:
Yes, a lot of people have failed to acknowledge that she's done incredibly well so far.HYUFD said:Macron will win but 40%-41% for Le Pen will still be a significant advance for the FN on the 18% her father got in 2002
She did well in the first round, just not as well as Macron or as some of her more exuberant supporters hoped. But it was nevertheless a strong performance. If she gets 40% in the second round that will easily eclipse anything her father achieved and represent a new high-water mark for the FN.
She's not going to be President, but 40% is not to be sniffed at.0 -
Patience! Still over 5 weeks to goGIN1138 said:
I'm waiting for The Sunil's official general election 2017 endorsement!malcolmg said:
GIN, he better do as he is told or he will rue the day.GIN1138 said:
Asking people not to be pedantic on PB is like asking the sun not to rise...malcolmg said:
You got the picture Sunil, don't be a pedant.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Kim is the surname, so it would be May Jong-un.malcolmg said:
Kim May-Il speaks to party followersold_labour said:OK, it's the Guardian, but ouch!
PM's campaign event in Scottish forest prompts new claims she is hiding
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I do not think the good people of Crathes will be happy having their village hall called a barn.RobD said:
People seem to have short memories. Man of the people Cameron....old_labour said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/david-cameron-photos-perfectly-show-54795060 -
Typical liberal metropolitan elite sneering from the independent.old_labour said:
I do not think the good people of Crathes will be happy having their village hall called a barn.RobD said:
People seem to have short memories. Man of the people Cameron....old_labour said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/david-cameron-photos-perfectly-show-5479506
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A large part of her success is because of distancing herself from her own party.HYUFD said:
Certainly and the FN will use it as a springboard for the legislative elections in JunePeter_the_Punter said:
Yes, a lot of people have failed to acknowledge that she's done incredibly well so far.HYUFD said:Macron will win but 40%-41% for Le Pen will still be a significant advance for the FN on the 18% her father got in 2002
She did well in the first round, just not as well as Macron or as some of her more exuberant supporters hoped. But it was nevertheless a strong performance. If she gets 40% in the second round that will easily eclipse anything her father achieved and represent a new high-water mark for the FN.
She's not going to be President, but 40% is not to be sniffed at.
Rather like Ruth Davidson's Scottish Conservatives, it is difficult to name another party figure in FN.0 -
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Anyway, I'd better be off. My pre-race ramble is up here:
http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/russia-pre-race-2017.html
Nice grid, but tricky markets.0 -
Agreed.Peter_the_Punter said:
Yes, a lot of people have failed to acknowledge that she's done incredibly well so far.HYUFD said:Macron will win but 40%-41% for Le Pen will still be a significant advance for the FN on the 18% her father got in 2002
She did well in the first round, just not as well as Macron or as some of her more exuberant supporters hoped. But it was nevertheless a strong performance. If she gets 40% in the second round that will easily eclipse anything her father achieved and represent a new high-water mark for the FN.
She's not going to be President, but 40% is not to be sniffed at.0
