A good vote winner for Labour might be to rule out any further rise in the State Pension Age.Perhaps they could even go so far as to reverse the acceleration of the later Pension Age announced by Osborne in 2011 – and revert to the timetable previously announced by the Brown Government.
The first ever poll to include the dominant party as "others" and to feature graphs which imply the poor second rated party is first. The Telegraph is becoming as big a comic as the Express!
So last weekend it was 12 gains, mid week 8 and now 7. Seems the Tory direction is backwards.
"Some 27 per cent of voters were found to back the Tories - far higher than the 16 per cent supporting Labour. The SNP was well ahead of both parties"
With Labour on 32% in London? How is that possible?
Looks wrong, I'll say that. I thought the Labour vote was crumbling in Scotland, Wales, the Midlands, Yorkshire? They must be doing very well in the south to compensate, which seems a bit unlikely.
but isn't it going to be a bit strange if the EU continue to use English as a common language after we leave? Wouldn't German or French be more logical a choice for a club without the awkward squad British in it any more?
Only if it wants to destroy itself.
Surely English is the principal language in Ireland and Malta?
If I understand correctly (I may not), Ireland nominated Gaelic as its language when it joined, presumably rationalising that as the UK was also a member, it had the luxury to do so.
A good vote winner for Labour might be to rule out any further rise in the State Pension Age.Perhaps they could even go so far as to reverse the acceleration of the later Pension Age announced by Osborne in 2011 – and revert to the timetable previously announced by the Brown Government.
Paid for how? A tax on turnips?
I don't think it would be wild to revert to the schedule recommended by Adair Turner's report under the Brown Government. Maybe the PSBR would have to take the strain a bit - but that happened often enough under Osborne. If Governments can reduce Income Tax - via higher Personal Allowances -when the PSBR is already high , it should be equally feasible to justify higher Public Spending.
but isn't it going to be a bit strange if the EU continue to use English as a common language after we leave? Wouldn't German or French be more logical a choice for a club without the awkward squad British in it any more?
Probably the most common second language.
True. Maybe if the EU had made English the official language of the Union (keeping all of the other languages of course) and made it a priority to ensure that everyone was fluent in it we would have felt somewhat better about being in it, because a) We would have had the special "big win" that all the other countries seem to get b) Freedom of movement in all directions would have been a lot easier.
c) And Brits wouldn't have to feel awkward and inadequate about their rank inability to learn any other language.
The first ever poll to include the dominant party as "others" and to feature graphs which imply the poor second rated party is first. The Telegraph is becoming as big a comic as the Express!
So last weekend it was 12 gains, mid week 8 and now 7. Seems the Tory direction is backwards.
"Some 27 per cent of voters were found to back the Tories - far higher than the 16 per cent supporting Labour. The SNP was well ahead of both parties"
Getting zero seats would be backwards. Let's see how many more than that they get.
but isn't it going to be a bit strange if the EU continue to use English as a common language after we leave? Wouldn't German or French be more logical a choice for a club without the awkward squad British in it any more?
Probably the most common second language.
True. Maybe if the EU had made English the official language of the Union (keeping all of the other languages of course) and made it a priority to ensure that everyone was fluent in it we would have felt somewhat better about being in it, because a) We would have had the special "big win" that all the other countries seem to get b) Freedom of movement in all directions would have been a lot easier.
c) And Brits wouldn't have to feel awkward and inadequate about their rank inability to learn any other language.
'Exclusive Telegraph ORB poll: Conservatives take the lead over Labour in Scotland'
What an exclusive, stunning revelation.
Conservatives: give Scottish fishermen back control of Scottish fishing waters SNP: give all our fish to Brussels
Just as well they have boats. May will bargain away those fishing rights so the financial institutions in the city get easy access to Europe. Sold down the river.
These words from Barnier actually make a good deal of sense:
"The EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier, said it was in Britain’s interests for the EU to be unified, as it would boost the chances of a Brexit deal. “This extraordinary meeting shows the unity of the 27 on a clear line, but this unity is not directed against Britain; I think that it is also in its interest,” he said."
Of course, it is not a guarantee that we shall have a deal, and even less that this will help get a good deal for the UK.
Thank you for the discusion of Opinium polls. I note that they are now saying they are weighting by "...past vote weight in addition to...party propensity"
OK, I give up. What is the difference between "weighting by past vote" and "weighting by party propensity"?
Party propensity is an evolution of the party-ID variable used in previous elections where respondents were asked if they identified with a particular party and the sample was then weighted according to pre-defined targets coming from sources such as the British Election Study. With party propensity, we ask voters how they feel about all of the parties and, from their answers, put together a unique picture of each voter’s view of the whole spectrum of parties. From this we can divide the electorate into groups based on which combination of parties they would or would not consider voting for.
but isn't it going to be a bit strange if the EU continue to use English as a common language after we leave? Wouldn't German or French be more logical a choice for a club without the awkward squad British in it any more?
Only if it wants to destroy itself.
Surely English is the principal language in Ireland and Malta?
If I understand correctly (I may not), Ireland nominated Gaelic as its language when it joined, presumably rationalising that as the UK was also a member, it had the luxury to do so.
When rushing to tell us that the Survation sub sample tables "confirm" the Tories at 30% you forgot to mention that they show the SNP (or "others" as the Telegraph would call them) at 50%!!!
but isn't it going to be a bit strange if the EU continue to use English as a common language after we leave? Wouldn't German or French be more logical a choice for a club without the awkward squad British in it any more?
Probably the most common second language.
True. Maybe if the EU had made English the official language of the Union (keeping all of the other languages of course) and made it a priority to ensure that everyone was fluent in it we would have felt somewhat better about being in it, because a) We would have had the special "big win" that all the other countries seem to get b) Freedom of movement in all directions would have been a lot easier.
c) And Brits wouldn't have to feel awkward and inadequate about their rank inability to learn any other language.
Win-win-win!
In my experience, Brits have every bit as much faculty to learn foreign languages as any other nation - a lot of Brits brought up overseas are completely fluent in other languages. But we do have less opportunity to learn (especially far fewer environments where our mother tongue is completely absent), particularly in the all formative younger years.
The first ever poll to include the dominant party as "others" and to feature graphs which imply the poor second rated party is first. The Telegraph is becoming as big a comic as the Express!
So last weekend it was 12 gains, mid week 8 and now 7. Seems the Tory direction is backwards.
"Some 27 per cent of voters were found to back the Tories - far higher than the 16 per cent supporting Labour. The SNP was well ahead of both parties"
Again we have another example of SCON 2nd being the new 1st mantra ! - FWIW in the words of Abby Lee from Dance Moms - 2nd is actually the biggest loser !!
Appears that the latest numbers imply a 2% Con to Lab swing, i.e. it's another pollster that has the gap closing a bit and Labour doing somewhat better.
Unmutual @AidDeeJay 1m1 minute ago More Replying to @MattSingh_ I live in a lab heartland. If they're on the same as 2015 they're picking up votes elsewhere coz they sure ain't keeping them here.
but isn't it going to be a bit strange if the EU continue to use English as a common language after we leave? Wouldn't German or French be more logical a choice for a club without the awkward squad British in it any more?
Probably the most common second language.
True. Maybe if the EU had made English the official language of the Union (keeping all of the other languages of course) and made it a priority to ensure that everyone was fluent in it we would have felt somewhat better about being in it, because a) We would have had the special "big win" that all the other countries seem to get b) Freedom of movement in all directions would have been a lot easier.
c) And Brits wouldn't have to feel awkward and inadequate about their rank inability to learn any other language.
Win-win-win!
In my experience, Brits have every bit as much faculty to learn foreign languages as any other nation - a lot of Brits brought up overseas are completely fluent in other languages. But we do have less opportunity to learn (especially far fewer environments where our mother tongue is completely absent), particularly in the all formative younger years.
Of course they have as much ability. The reasons Brits struggle imo are: 1) less motivation when English is the global language 2) foreigners more likely to watch British and American TV, listen to music in English than we are in their language etc. 3) not convinced we teach languages that well in school
Replying to @MattSingh_ I live in a lab heartland. If they're on the same as 2015 they're picking up votes elsewhere coz they sure ain't keeping them here.
but isn't it going to be a bit strange if the EU continue to use English as a common language after we leave? Wouldn't German or French be more logical a choice for a club without the awkward squad British in it any more?
Probably the most common second language.
True. Maybe if the EU had made English the official language of the Union (keeping all of the other languages of course) and made it a priority to ensure that everyone was fluent in it we would have felt somewhat better about being in it, because a) We would have had the special "big win" that all the other countries seem to get b) Freedom of movement in all directions would have been a lot easier.
c) And Brits wouldn't have to feel awkward and inadequate about their rank inability to learn any other language.
Win-win-win!
The most spoken language in Scotland is...?
Commiserations on the clumsy non sequitur.
I sometimes get the impression that what people really want on these threads is banter and trying to score points off each other, It's often very funny when malcolmg is online, mind you!
We could do with a new London-only poll. YouGov had one in late March with Lab ahead by 3, but that was obviously pre-GE announcement. Less UKIP to squeeze in London, mind.
I may come to regret this, but I've just cashed out of my CON spread buy @ 388
Bought @ 378. 10x stake profit is ok I guess.
Still a long way to go so to have made 10x profit is a great result. But is that how it works with spread betting? I would have thought what you have done is locked in no losses, but will gain if it is between 378 and 388?
Those spread betting on this election are very brave IMO... There are a number of factors suggesting a big result... But very hard to know how those extra Tory votes will be distributed. Plus there's the uncertainty of a potential string of prosecutions and maybe even a targeted lib dem revival.
I would have thought having all polling fluctuating with Labour in a 24-31% box, and the Tories in a 42-50% range, would be perfectly normal across a six week campaign.
The core message is the same: UKIP collapsing to the Tories, a decent Tory recovery in Scotland, and serious disillusionment, with some switching, amongst the Labour core. Core Remainers flirting with the Liberal Democrats, but refusing to smell Tim Farron's spaniel.
The numbers on the day will be what they'll be. Some pollsters will get very close, and be lauded for it, others won't and be laughed at.
Most of that praise/criticism will be exaggerated.
Ha! A friend and former colleague in the FCO, Philippa Thompson, has been selected to stand for Labour in Preseli Pembrokeshire against Stephen Crabb. Tough environment for a first-time candidate in Wales.
Telegraph ORB poll has a NI subsample which, of course, means it's not conducted on the same basis as normal polls, which are GB only.
Important question: is that still true? I know it *was* true, but during the EU ref a lot of UK-wide polls came out and I was wondering if they'd kept up the habit.
I would have thought having all polling fluctuating with Labour in a 24-31% box, and the Tories in a 42-50% range, would be perfectly normal across a six week campaign.
The core message is the same: UKIP collapsing to the Tories, a decent Tory recovery in Scotland, and serious disillusionment, with some switching, amongst the Labour core. Core Remainers flirting with the Liberal Democrats, but refusing to smell Tim Farron's spaniel.
The numbers on the day will be what they'll be. Some pollsters will get very close, and be lauded for it, others won't and be laughed at.
Most of that praise/criticism will be exaggerated.
42-50% is Good to Fantastic for the Tories but 24% to 31% is OK to F***** Absymal for Labour.
I would have thought having all polling fluctuating with Labour in a 24-31% box, and the Tories in a 42-50% range, would be perfectly normal across a six week campaign.
The core message is the same: UKIP collapsing to the Tories, a decent Tory recovery in Scotland, and serious disillusionment, with some switching, amongst the Labour core. Core Remainers flirting with the Liberal Democrats, but refusing to smell Tim Farron's spaniel.
The numbers on the day will be what they'll be. Some pollsters will get very close, and be lauded for it, others won't and be laughed at.
Most of that praise/criticism will be exaggerated.
42-50% is Good to Fantastic for the Tories but 24% to 31% is OK to F***** Absymal for Labour.
The harder question for Labour to answer: how will they break the back of that Tory voting coalition post-Brexit?
Friendly hint: not by doing what they've been doing since 2010, and hoping the electoral cycle does the rest for them.
I would have thought having all polling fluctuating with Labour in a 24-31% box, and the Tories in a 42-50% range, would be perfectly normal across a six week campaign.
The core message is the same: UKIP collapsing to the Tories, a decent Tory recovery in Scotland, and serious disillusionment, with some switching, amongst the Labour core. Core Remainers flirting with the Liberal Democrats, but refusing to smell Tim Farron's spaniel.
The numbers on the day will be what they'll be. Some pollsters will get very close, and be lauded for it, others won't and be laughed at.
Most of that praise/criticism will be exaggerated.
Very true. If pollsters are doing their jobs properly there should be "outliers" - it's in the nature of the beast. I'd much rather have smallest Conservative leads now so people don't get complacent.
but isn't it going to be a bit strange if the EU continue to use English as a common language after we leave? Wouldn't German or French be more logical a choice for a club without the awkward squad British in it any more?
Probably the most common second language.
True. Maybe if the EU had made English the official language of the Union (keeping all of the other languages of course) and made it a priority to ensure that everyone was fluent in it we would have felt somewhat better about being in it, because a) We would have had the special "big win" that all the other countries seem to get b) Freedom of movement in all directions would have been a lot easier.
c) And Brits wouldn't have to feel awkward and inadequate about their rank inability to learn any other language.
Win-win-win!
In my experience, Brits have every bit as much faculty to learn foreign languages as any other nation - a lot of Brits brought up overseas are completely fluent in other languages. But we do have less opportunity to learn (especially far fewer environments where our mother tongue is completely absent), particularly in the all formative younger years.
Of course they have as much ability. The reasons Brits struggle imo are: 1) less motivation when English is the global language 2) foreigners more likely to watch British and American TV, listen to music in English than we are in their language etc. 3) not convinced we teach languages that well in school
The killer is not being able to find monoglot foreigners any more. In the 1970s I spent some time in the Greek islands and it was still the case in many places that if you didn't speak Greek you didn't eat. Fast forward to the recent past and trying to speak Amharic to people in off-the-beaten-track bits of Ethiopia. Usual response: "In the first place I am a Tigrigna speaker, and in the second I think we should converse in my excellent English".
Ha! A friend and former colleague in the FCO, Philippa Thompson, has been selected to stand for Labour in Preseli Pembrokeshire against Stephen Crabb. Tough environment for a first-time candidate in Wales.
Not particularly. In a good Labour year that seat is very winnable for Labour. She will not win this time though!
I would have thought having all polling fluctuating with Labour in a 24-31% box, and the Tories in a 42-50% range, would be perfectly normal across a six week campaign.
The core message is the same: UKIP collapsing to the Tories, a decent Tory recovery in Scotland, and serious disillusionment, with some switching, amongst the Labour core. Core Remainers flirting with the Liberal Democrats, but refusing to smell Tim Farron's spaniel.
The numbers on the day will be what they'll be. Some pollsters will get very close, and be lauded for it, others won't and be laughed at.
Most of that praise/criticism will be exaggerated.
Very true. If pollsters are doing their jobs properly there should be "outliers" - it's in the nature of the beast. I'd much rather have smallest Conservative leads now so people don't get complacent.
No complacency from me.
I've donated to the Conservatives a millionth of what we send to the EU every week.
Just for fun I ran the Observer opinium sub sample through Baxter. The result is 55 SNP and 4 Tory. Not well based of course being a sub sample - but just as valid as the Telegraph story.
If the Orb figures were to be accurate the implied swing against Labour would cost them just 15 seats.Moreover the suggested 2.2% swing could easily be offset by first time incumbency in most of the seats at risk. I remain doubtful, however, until confirmed by other surveys.
but isn't it going to be a bit strange if the EU continue to use English as a common language after we leave? Wouldn't German or French be more logical a choice for a club without the awkward squad British in it any more?
Only if it wants to destroy itself.
Surely English is the principal language in Ireland and Malta?
If I understand correctly (I may not), Ireland nominated Gaelic as its language when it joined, presumably rationalising that as the UK was also a member, it had the luxury to do so.
The 90% of Irish who can't go much beyond "Éireann go Brách" are going to struggle at the EU in that case. May they can speak French instead?
Ha! A friend and former colleague in the FCO, Philippa Thompson, has been selected to stand for Labour in Preseli Pembrokeshire against Stephen Crabb. Tough environment for a first-time candidate in Wales.
Yes,Philippa well thought of down here. Very pleasant and approachable and local. Hopefully she will do well given the short notice.
but isn't it going to be a bit strange if the EU continue to use English as a common language after we leave? Wouldn't German or French be more logical a choice for a club without the awkward squad British in it any more?
Probably the most common second language.
True. Maybe if the EU had made English the official language of the Union (keeping all of the other languages of course) and made it a priority to ensure that everyone was fluent in it we would have felt somewhat better about being in it, because a) We would have had the special "big win" that all the other countries seem to get b) Freedom of movement in all directions would have been a lot easier.
c) And Brits wouldn't have to feel awkward and inadequate about their rank inability to learn any other language.
Win-win-win!
In my experience, Brits have every bit as much faculty to learn foreign languages as any other nation - a lot of Brits brought up overseas are completely fluent in other languages. But we do have less opportunity to learn (especially far fewer environments where our mother tongue is completely absent), particularly in the all formative younger years.
Of course they have as much ability. The reasons Brits struggle imo are: 1) less motivation when English is the global language 2) foreigners more likely to watch British and American TV, listen to music in English than we are in their language etc. 3) not convinced we teach languages that well in school
The killer is not being able to find monoglot foreigners any more. In the 1970s I spent some time in the Greek islands and it was still the case in many places that if you didn't speak Greek you didn't eat. Fast forward to the recent past and trying to speak Amharic to people in off-the-beaten-track bits of Ethiopia. Usual response: "In the first place I am a Tigrigna speaker, and in the second I think we should converse in my excellent English".
I spent 4 years in Oman trying to learn Arabic, but did nothing but Improve the locals English. It's just the way it is.
Ha! A friend and former colleague in the FCO, Philippa Thompson, has been selected to stand for Labour in Preseli Pembrokeshire against Stephen Crabb. Tough environment for a first-time candidate in Wales.
Isn't Preseli the number one target for the Bus Pass Elvis Party?
but isn't it going to be a bit strange if the EU continue to use English as a common language after we leave? Wouldn't German or French be more logical a choice for a club without the awkward squad British in it any more?
Probably the most common second language.
True. Maybe if the EU had made English the official language of the Union (keeping all of the other languages of course) and made it a priority to ensure that everyone was fluent in it we would have felt somewhat better about being in it, because a) We would have had the special "big win" that all the other countries seem to get b) Freedom of movement in all directions would have been a lot easier.
c) And Brits wouldn't have to feel awkward and inadequate about their rank inability to learn any other language.
Win-win-win!
In my experience, Brits have every bit as much faculty to learn foreign languages as any other nation - a lot of Brits brought up overseas are completely fluent in other languages. But we do have less opportunity to learn (especially far fewer environments where our mother tongue is completely absent), particularly in the all formative younger years.
Of course they have as much ability. The reasons Brits struggle imo are: 1) less motivation when English is the global language 2) foreigners more likely to watch British and American TV, listen to music in English than we are in their language etc. 3) not convinced we teach languages that well in school
The killer is not being able to find monoglot foreigners any more. In the 1970s I spent some time in the Greek islands and it was still the case in many places that if you didn't speak Greek you didn't eat. Fast forward to the recent past and trying to speak Amharic to people in off-the-beaten-track bits of Ethiopia. Usual response: "In the first place I am a Tigrigna speaker, and in the second I think we should converse in my excellent English".
I would have thought having all polling fluctuating with Labour in a 24-31% box, and the Tories in a 42-50% range, would be perfectly normal across a six week campaign.
The core message is the same: UKIP collapsing to the Tories, a decent Tory recovery in Scotland, and serious disillusionment, with some switching, amongst the Labour core. Core Remainers flirting with the Liberal Democrats, but refusing to smell Tim Farron's spaniel.
The numbers on the day will be what they'll be. Some pollsters will get very close, and be lauded for it, others won't and be laughed at.
Most of that praise/criticism will be exaggerated.
Very true. If pollsters are doing their jobs properly there should be "outliers" - it's in the nature of the beast. I'd much rather have smallest Conservative leads now so people don't get complacent.
No complacency from me.
I've donated to the Conservatives a millionth of what we send to the EU every week.
Good man.
I added to my collection of signed PM booze today at a pre election fundraiser auction...
When rushing to tell us that the Survation sub sample tables "confirm" the Tories at 30% you forgot to mention that they show the SNP (or "others" as the Telegraph would call them) at 50%!!!
True - but I dodn't point out that Labour were on only 13% either.
but isn't it going to be a bit strange if the EU continue to use English as a common language after we leave? Wouldn't German or French be more logical a choice for a club without the awkward squad British in it any more?
Only if it wants to destroy itself.
Surely English is the principal language in Ireland and Malta?
If I understand correctly (I may not), Ireland nominated Gaelic as its language when it joined, presumably rationalising that as the UK was also a member, it had the luxury to do so.
The 90% of Irish who can't go much beyond "Éireann go Brách" are going to struggle at the EU in that case. May they can speak French instead?
Some of them are pretty good in la langue de Beckett...
Matt Singh @MattSingh_ Labour source messages in response to tonight's polls with "B******S". Make of that what you will...
They think the polls are overstating the Labour share?
I'm not sure if it's bastards or bollocks.
Pretty sure it's the latter, i.e. they don't believe Corbyn will come close to matching Ed's vote share. Have to say I agree with them: it fails the sniff test.
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If, however, they are immigrants, then they might have something to worry about.
Westminster voting intention:
CON: 42%
LAB: 31%
LDEM: 10%
UKIP: 8%
(via ORB)"
The first ever poll to include the dominant party as "others" and to feature graphs which imply the poor second rated party is first. The Telegraph is becoming as big a comic as the Express!
So last weekend it was 12 gains, mid week 8 and now 7. Seems the Tory direction is backwards.
"Some 27 per cent of voters were found to back the Tories - far higher than the 16 per cent supporting Labour. The SNP was well ahead of both parties"
https://goo.gl/7cTbAf
Labour surging.. LDs not so much..
SNP: give all our fish to Brussels
"Our Brexit illusions are about to be shattered"
http://www.orb-international.com/perch/resources/orb-telegraph-poll-april-22nd-2017.pdf
Ben Riley-Smith, yer in the sinbin.
... says the EU. How much are they going to have to pay to access our market?
Well, we all remember how crap our first time was.
Sold down the river.
"The EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier, said it was in Britain’s interests for the EU to be unified, as it would boost the chances of a Brexit deal. “This extraordinary meeting shows the unity of the 27 on a clear line, but this unity is not directed against Britain; I think that it is also in its interest,” he said."
Of course, it is not a guarantee that we shall have a deal, and even less that this will help get a good deal for the UK.
need tables.
Don't tell me... JCICIPM.
When rushing to tell us that the Survation sub sample tables "confirm" the Tories at 30% you forgot to mention that they show the SNP (or "others" as the Telegraph would call them) at 50%!!!
http://www.orb-international.com/perch/resources/orb-telegraph-poll-april-22nd-2017.pdf
Appears that the latest numbers imply a 2% Con to Lab swing, i.e. it's another pollster that has the gap closing a bit and Labour doing somewhat better.
Now, we await the next YouGov.
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I live in a lab heartland. If they're on the same as 2015 they're picking up votes elsewhere coz they sure ain't keeping them here.
1) less motivation when English is the global language
2) foreigners more likely to watch British and American TV, listen to music in English than we are in their language etc.
3) not convinced we teach languages that well in school
Labour source messages in response to tonight's polls with "B******S". Make of that what you will...
@AidDeeJay
Replying to @MattSingh_
I live in a lab heartland. If they're on the same as 2015 they're picking up votes elsewhere coz they sure ain't keeping them here.
Matt Singh @MattSingh_
Labour source messages in response to tonight's polls with "B******S". Make of that what you will...
That's consistent with a few others and suggests the Labour vote in the North will hold - but the Tories will pick up the Kippers.
But is that how it works with spread betting? I would have thought what you have done is locked in no losses, but will gain if it is between 378 and 388?
Those spread betting on this election are very brave IMO... There are a number of factors suggesting a big result... But very hard to know how those extra Tory votes will be distributed. Plus there's the uncertainty of a potential string of prosecutions and maybe even a targeted lib dem revival.
Seriously; you're attributing all your hopes and dreams to one poll from a little known organisation; and one that still shows Labour being shafted...
The core message is the same: UKIP collapsing to the Tories, a decent Tory recovery in Scotland, and serious disillusionment, with some switching, amongst the Labour core. Core Remainers flirting with the Liberal Democrats, but refusing to smell Tim Farron's spaniel.
The numbers on the day will be what they'll be. Some pollsters will get very close, and be lauded for it, others won't and be laughed at.
Most of that praise/criticism will be exaggerated.
Friendly hint: not by doing what they've been doing since 2010, and hoping the electoral cycle does the rest for them.
I've donated to the Conservatives a millionth of what we send to the EU every week.
I added to my collection of signed PM booze today at a pre election fundraiser auction...
Con lead of 13%, down 3% since midweek and down 10% in a week