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  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Least we get a trade deal and not hassled to give the Falklands back to the Argies.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    269-269 looking scarily plausible.
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    Wow. This is for Trump for sure. Looks like a decent EC margin as well. We have truly reached tipping point.

    Looks quite simple, polls wrong from the start and brexit 2.0.

    Marine Le Pen will win in 2017 for sure, despite polls to the contrary. Get betting.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    AndyJS said:

    I don't think we're going to have a winner any time soon. Could be days.

    If Trump wins more than one of PA, WI or MI, I don't think Clinton can win.
  • OUT
    OUT Posts: 569
    Pulpstar said:

    Apologies if this sounds blunt, but does Wisconsin have any massive black populations tucked away ?

    Only in their sports teams.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Paristonda said:

    Wow. This is for Trump for sure. Looks like a decent EC margin as well. We have truly reached tipping point.

    Looks quite simple, polls wrong from the start and brexit 2.0.

    Marine Le Pen will win in 2017 for sure, despite polls to the contrary. Get betting.

    'for sure'?
  • john_zims
    john_zims Posts: 3,399
    @Pulpstar"

    'Apologies if this sounds blunt, but does Wisconsin have any massive black populations tucked away ?'

    No a very small black community, Wisconsin is typical small town America.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    MaxPB said:

    Clinton PA lead down to 80k. Trump reeling her in, I think he wins by 20-30k.

    75k.

    Getting closer and outstanding precincts favour Trump.
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327
    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    I think Trump is looking good for PA. 110k votes behind, catching fast.

    Chester and Dauphin big D counties with 30% in. V close, but I think she holds it.
    Feels like the discussion about Florida a couple of hours ago!
    We'll see; I think she holds her lead in PA.
    Down to 75k with rural districts yet to report and most of the urban districts in. Looks like it will be very, very close.
  • Pong
    Pong Posts: 4,693
    Can we have a thread on the Richmond Park byelection please?
  • Tony
    Tony Posts: 159
    HRC projected popular vote lead now down to 1%.......
    I'd think about getting out those bets.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    OUT said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Apologies if this sounds blunt, but does Wisconsin have any massive black populations tucked away ?

    Only in their sports teams.
    Green Bay
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited November 2016
    Clinton won't easily concede if she's a clear winner in the popular vote and a whole stack of states are on a knife-edge. There'll be automatic recounts to wait for.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    NYT Trump chances of victory greater than 95%.
  • brokenwheel
    brokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    I apologise to Speedy, you're right about the blue blob.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    DavidL said:

    This is starting to remind me of Brexit after Sunderland. Surely it is all over.

    Think Michigan will be the Sheffield moment.
  • DecrepitJohnL
    DecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Test match is about to start.
  • JennyFreeman
    JennyFreeman Posts: 488
    rcs1000 said:

    269-269 looking scarily plausible.

    I don't know how you get that. He only needs one of the rust belts and he crosses 270.
  • not_on_fire
    not_on_fire Posts: 4,451
    Just cashed out on Trump on a £100 profit. Thanks again to this site.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Just amazing that we are talking about WI and MI tonight.
  • nunu
    nunu Posts: 6,024
    williamglenn said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Danny565 said:

    nunu said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    CNN presenters getting very angry at the pollsters.

    I'm very angry at the Democrats. Picking Mrs. Establishment when it was clear people are sick of centrist established politicians.
    Quite. Joe Biden would've cruised home.
    Any other Democrat would have cruised it.
    Trump continues to be underestimated even as he cruises to victory.
    Not any other Democrat but both Bernie and Biden would be doing much better than Clinton with wwc in Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio.
  • EDW20000
    EDW20000 Posts: 138
    HRC 8/1, all resistance gone
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    nunu said:

    williamglenn said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Danny565 said:

    nunu said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    CNN presenters getting very angry at the pollsters.

    I'm very angry at the Democrats. Picking Mrs. Establishment when it was clear people are sick of centrist established politicians.
    Quite. Joe Biden would've cruised home.
    Any other Democrat would have cruised it.
    Trump continues to be underestimated even as he cruises to victory.
    Not any other Democrat but both Bernie and Biden would be doing much better than Clinton with wwc in Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio.
    Yep!
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    CNN projects Hillary wins California and Hawaii, Trump projected to win Idaho. Oregon and Washington state too close to call
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    MaxPB said:

    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    I think Trump is looking good for PA. 110k votes behind, catching fast.

    Chester and Dauphin big D counties with 30% in. V close, but I think she holds it.
    Feels like the discussion about Florida a couple of hours ago!
    We'll see; I think she holds her lead in PA.
    Down to 75k with rural districts yet to report and most of the urban districts in. Looks like it will be very, very close.
    http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/states/pennsylvania

    Look at the counties with sub 50% counts so far, looks close but I hold by my earlier forecast,
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    RobD said:

    Just amazing that we are talking about WI and MI tonight.

    We did talk about the Rust Belt Strategy quite a lot in recent weeks.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Trump also closing in Maine.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    AndyJS said:

    RobD said:

    Just amazing that we are talking about WI and MI tonight.

    We did talk about the Rust Belt Strategy quite a lot in recent weeks.
    Yeah true, but did anyone actually think it would happen? ;)
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    California in for Hillary.

    Was genuinely starting to wonder about that :D

  • Pong
    Pong Posts: 4,693
    RobD said:

    Just amazing that we are talking about WI and MI tonight.

    The Map.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/clinton-trump-vote-maps-2016/
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Betfair is crazy at the moment.
  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Posts: 189
    More Evangelicals have voted for Trump than voted for Bush, an Evangelical- just think about that - Sky News
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    Been in bed the last half hour listening to Radio 4, great entertainment.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Oregon and Washington not called on closing time for the first time since 1988.
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    RobD said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Tamara Keith
    Here at Clinton HQ, previously jovial staff have disappeared. Even the intern wrangling surrogates for radio is totally MIA.

    I bet Trump may be starting to work on his speech :D
    He's not done that for 18 months, why would he start now?
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Speedy said:

    Oregon and Washington not called on closing time for the first time since 1988.

    :o
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Hillary Clinton now leads the Electoral College on 190 to Donald Trump's 171
    Trump ahead in the popular vote on 49.1% to Clinton's 46.5%
    http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/president
  • Dixie
    Dixie Posts: 1,221
    Well, it seems that the effing liberal elite are upping their hate of the ordinary people - we are all racists and swear and smoke and look at cleavages and laugh at fat people - and we are amoeba. So, as in Brexit, it seems now Trump. The people are saying to the elite: F*ck you. On that basis, I would love a Trump presidency. On the other hand, I actually don't because he will run the White House by Twitter. But Clinton is and her type, like Clegg and Blair are awful, awful, awful people. It's their fault. They should be nice the working man. Every man is not a dodgy character. Every white is not a racist, every working class person is not a thickie. Respect us and you get a vote. Otherwise what they see the thickies will start becoming President of the United States.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    HYUFD said:

    CNN projects Hillary wins California and Hawaii, Trump projected to win Idaho. Oregon and Washington state too close to call

    CNBC gives Oregan and Washington to Clinton
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,289
    nunu said:

    williamglenn said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Danny565 said:

    nunu said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    CNN presenters getting very angry at the pollsters.

    I'm very angry at the Democrats. Picking Mrs. Establishment when it was clear people are sick of centrist established politicians.
    Quite. Joe Biden would've cruised home.
    Any other Democrat would have cruised it.
    Trump continues to be underestimated even as he cruises to victory.
    Not any other Democrat but both Bernie and Biden would be doing much better than Clinton with wwc in Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio.
    Bernie and Biden are both compromised regarding behaviour towards women so they wouldn't have been able to run the same playbook against Trump. He would have overwhelmed them but in a different way.
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    rcs1000 said:

    Paristonda said:

    Wow. This is for Trump for sure. Looks like a decent EC margin as well. We have truly reached tipping point.

    Looks quite simple, polls wrong from the start and brexit 2.0.

    Marine Le Pen will win in 2017 for sure, despite polls to the contrary. Get betting.

    'for sure'?
    Alright for sure may be a bit strong, but the same voters that went Brexit and Trump will come out for LP, you can't put too much faith in figures on Juppe after tonight.
  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Speedy said:

    Oregon and Washington not called on closing time for the first time since 1988.

    Surely not in 2000? Oregon was extremely close.
  • GeoffM
    GeoffM Posts: 6,071
    MWHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Nothing else.
  • Chris
    Chris Posts: 12,059
    Caril Bialik, on 538, says this looks a lot like polling error.
  • EDW20000
    EDW20000 Posts: 138
    why did Dems pick her?
    puzzling
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    rcs1000 said:

    Paristonda said:

    Wow. This is for Trump for sure. Looks like a decent EC margin as well. We have truly reached tipping point.

    Looks quite simple, polls wrong from the start and brexit 2.0.

    Marine Le Pen will win in 2017 for sure, despite polls to the contrary. Get betting.

    'for sure'?
    Yes. Why would they not after tonight? :(
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Pulpstar said:

    Can Trump slow down a touch, I'm losing £15 a point of my profits for every ECV Hillary is below 250 votes.

    Both my arse and JackW's are competing for the amount of whoop-ass that the ECV market is likely to serve up to us.
  • nunu
    nunu Posts: 6,024
    There was no early vote in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania or Michigan. If there were they might of seen this coming.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Just backed Hillary at 8.8
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Chris said:

    Caril Bialik, on 538, says this looks a lot like polling error.

    A slight snafu, yes.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Paristonda said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Paristonda said:

    Wow. This is for Trump for sure. Looks like a decent EC margin as well. We have truly reached tipping point.

    Looks quite simple, polls wrong from the start and brexit 2.0.

    Marine Le Pen will win in 2017 for sure, despite polls to the contrary. Get betting.

    'for sure'?
    Alright for sure may be a bit strong, but the same voters that went Brexit and Trump will come out for LP, you can't put too much faith in figures on Juppe after tonight.
    30%.

    That's been the FN ceiling in a lot of two way votes in the last three years,
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    Cook dropped from the third ball!!
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,310
    EDW20000 said:

    why did Dems pick her?
    puzzling

    Ask Labour
  • Charles
    Charles Posts: 35,758
    LOL - Fox quote from Clinton headquarters

    "We're expecting a long night. Nothing has ever come easy for Clinton - she's had to fight for everything her whole life"

    Doesn't sound like a winner...
  • RochdalePioneers
    RochdalePioneers Posts: 30,611
    rcs1000 said:

    269-269 looking scarily plausible.

    At which point I appoint Amando Iannouci as my personal Lord and Savior. He had the election in Vemployment tied 269-269
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327
    Had a nibble at 8.8, seemed too good to turn down!
  • DecrepitJohnL
    DecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Just cashed out on Betfair.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited November 2016
    Meanwhile Hillary is winning CT by only 6%.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Chris said:

    Caril Bialik, on 538, says this looks a lot like polling error.

    No shit
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Speedy said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Apologies if this sounds blunt, but does Wisconsin have any massive black populations tucked away ?

    I think it's <10% minority</p>
    It doesn't have any minorities.
    According to wikipedia it does. 6.3% african american and 1.8% mixed race..
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,076
    edited November 2016
    Beeb:

    Clinton finally ahead again on ECVs:

    Clinton 190
    Trump 187
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Pulpstar said:

    Chris said:

    Caril Bialik, on 538, says this looks a lot like polling error.

    No shit
    :smile:
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    rcs1000 said:

    Paristonda said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Paristonda said:

    Wow. This is for Trump for sure. Looks like a decent EC margin as well. We have truly reached tipping point.

    Looks quite simple, polls wrong from the start and brexit 2.0.

    Marine Le Pen will win in 2017 for sure, despite polls to the contrary. Get betting.

    'for sure'?
    Alright for sure may be a bit strong, but the same voters that went Brexit and Trump will come out for LP, you can't put too much faith in figures on Juppe after tonight.
    30%.

    That's been the FN ceiling in a lot of two way votes in the last three years,
    In the present climate anything is possible, Le Pen is Trump, Juppe Clinton
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,289
    Charles said:

    LOL - Fox quote from Clinton headquarters

    "We're expecting a long night. Nothing has ever come easy for Clinton - she's had to fight for everything her whole life"

    Doesn't sound like a winner...

    She's lawyering up.
  • Tony
    Tony Posts: 159
    Minnesota keeps trending towards Trump . Down to a predicted 1% win by HRC....
  • Dromedary
    Dromedary Posts: 1,194
    DecrepitJohnL said:

    Any news on the 25/1 guy in Utah?

    The NYT are forecasting a Trump victory in Utah with probability 83%.
  • Dixie
    Dixie Posts: 1,221
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just backed Hillary at 8.8

    Just incredible in a tight 2-horse race.
  • nunu
    nunu Posts: 6,024
    rcs1000 said:

    Paristonda said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Paristonda said:

    Wow. This is for Trump for sure. Looks like a decent EC margin as well. We have truly reached tipping point.

    Looks quite simple, polls wrong from the start and brexit 2.0.

    Marine Le Pen will win in 2017 for sure, despite polls to the contrary. Get betting.

    'for sure'?
    Alright for sure may be a bit strong, but the same voters that went Brexit and Trump will come out for LP, you can't put too much faith in figures on Juppe after tonight.
    30%.

    That's been the FN ceiling in a lot of two way votes in the last three years,
    All previous assumptions are out the window now. Le Pen CAN win.
  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just backed Hillary at 8.8

    I think that is just denial. Trump is going to clear out the mid West. Ohio is the canary that calls this election
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Casino_Royale said:

    Speedy said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Apologies if this sounds blunt, but does Wisconsin have any massive black populations tucked away ?

    I think it's <10% minority</p>
    It doesn't have any minorities.
    According to wikipedia it does. 6.3% african american and 1.8% mixed race..
    Its safer than Michigan then
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Paristonda said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Paristonda said:

    Wow. This is for Trump for sure. Looks like a decent EC margin as well. We have truly reached tipping point.

    Looks quite simple, polls wrong from the start and brexit 2.0.

    Marine Le Pen will win in 2017 for sure, despite polls to the contrary. Get betting.

    'for sure'?
    Alright for sure may be a bit strong, but the same voters that went Brexit and Trump will come out for LP, you can't put too much faith in figures on Juppe after tonight.
    30%.

    That's been the FN ceiling in a lot of two way votes in the last three years,
    In the present climate anything is possible, Le Pen is Trump, Juppe Clinton
    We'll see.
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,076
    IanB2 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Its amazing, the TV networks can ONLY FIND people who voted for Hillary. Republicans even.

    Well most of the leave campaign went into hiding when they actually won
    Nah, we just sought refuge on PB :lol:
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    North Carolina projected for Donald Trump
  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Posts: 189
    https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/796193228210851840
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,289
    https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/796199507981729792
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    Both candidates have been at 9 on Betfair in the last 150 minutes!
  • stjohn
    stjohn Posts: 1,910
    Tissue_Price said:

    1.7 on Clinton popular vote...

    Tissue Price. How would you rate Clinton's chances of winning the popular vote in % terms?
  • EDW20000
    EDW20000 Posts: 138
    Hilary 10/1 by 5am
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    DavidL said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just backed Hillary at 8.8

    I think that is just denial. Trump is going to clear out the mid West. Ohio is the canary that calls this election
    There's going to be a mandatory recount in Florida, and possibly other places too.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,310
    rcs1000 said:

    Paristonda said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Paristonda said:

    Wow. This is for Trump for sure. Looks like a decent EC margin as well. We have truly reached tipping point.

    Looks quite simple, polls wrong from the start and brexit 2.0.

    Marine Le Pen will win in 2017 for sure, despite polls to the contrary. Get betting.

    'for sure'?
    Alright for sure may be a bit strong, but the same voters that went Brexit and Trump will come out for LP, you can't put too much faith in figures on Juppe after tonight.
    30%.

    That's been the FN ceiling in a lot of two way votes in the last three years,
    The week between first and second ballot does give the French a chance to consider before they make the final decision. There is a fair bit of evidence that a lot of people would have thought twice about Brexit if they had realised it might win. Trump, less clear, although I doubt the Clinton leads of recent days did his campaign any harm.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    williamglenn said:

    https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/796199507981729792

    He called it waaaaay to early :D
  • Saltire
    Saltire Posts: 525
    If Clinton wins PA and MI but loses WI then it will come down to the split votes in Maine and Nebraska or indeed the elector in D.C who says he won't vote for Clinton (Assuming that Alaska does go blue)
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited November 2016
    Charles said:

    LOL - Fox quote from Clinton headquarters

    "We're expecting a long night. Nothing has ever come easy for Clinton - she's had to fight for everything her whole life"

    Doesn't sound like a winner...

    She was handed everything by Bill.

    She didn't even campaign much, or had any policies.
  • Essexit
    Essexit Posts: 1,966
    Probably time to go to bed, and see what winnings I have to collect in the morning.
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,727
    Call me crazy, but I think MI will go to Clinton by a whisker.

    Her problem is WI.
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    NYT: MI now close - Clinton only +1.0
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    North Carolina called for Trump
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,310
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    DavidL said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just backed Hillary at 8.8

    I think that is just denial. Trump is going to clear out the mid West. Ohio is the canary that calls this election
    There's going to be a mandatory recount in Florida, and possibly other places too.
    Which simply delays the final declaration?
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Saltire said:

    If Clinton wins PA and MI but loses WI then it will come down to the split votes in Maine and Nebraska or indeed the elector in D.C who says he won't vote for Clinton (Assuming that Alaska does go blue)

    There's reason to believe Alaska will go blue?
  • taffys
    taffys Posts: 9,753
    Is Theresa May another winner tonight?
  • JennyFreeman
    JennyFreeman Posts: 488
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    DavidL said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just backed Hillary at 8.8

    I think that is just denial. Trump is going to clear out the mid West. Ohio is the canary that calls this election
    There's going to be a mandatory recount in Florida, and possibly other places too.
    It has been done I believe: it's automatically triggered. Fox just called Florida for Trump.
  • corporeal
    corporeal Posts: 2,549
    Saltire said:

    If Clinton wins PA and MI but loses WI then it will come down to the split votes in Maine and Nebraska or indeed the elector in D.C who says he won't vote for Clinton (Assuming that Alaska does go blue)

    Alaska won't go blue.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,310
    RobD said:

    Saltire said:

    If Clinton wins PA and MI but loses WI then it will come down to the split votes in Maine and Nebraska or indeed the elector in D.C who says he won't vote for Clinton (Assuming that Alaska does go blue)

    There's reason to believe Alaska will go blue?
    That would look miraculous given the way the night has gone
  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    williamglenn said:

    Charles said:

    LOL - Fox quote from Clinton headquarters

    "We're expecting a long night. Nothing has ever come easy for Clinton - she's had to fight for everything her whole life"

    Doesn't sound like a winner...

    She's lawyering up.
    I'd be boarding a private et to Qatar myself.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Nate Silver is giving Trump a 49% chance of winning the election.
  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    numbertwelve said:

    Call me crazy, but I think MI will go to Clinton by a whisker.

    Her problem is WI.

    And PA, and MN.
  • Tony
    Tony Posts: 159
    https://twitter.com/henryolsenEPPC/status/796200980815740929
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    JennyFreeman said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    DavidL said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just backed Hillary at 8.8

    I think that is just denial. Trump is going to clear out the mid West. Ohio is the canary that calls this election
    There's going to be a mandatory recount in Florida, and possibly other places too.
    It has been done I believe: it's automatically triggered. Fox just called Florida for Trump.
    FL has been R for about three hours :)
  • JennyFreeman
    JennyFreeman Posts: 488
    Saltire said:

    If Clinton wins PA and MI but loses WI then it will come down to the split votes in Maine and Nebraska or indeed the elector in D.C who says he won't vote for Clinton (Assuming that Alaska does go blue)


    I make it that Trump only needs one of PA, MI, WI or MN to win the Presidency.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,310
    numbertwelve said:

    Call me crazy, but I think MI will go to Clinton by a whisker.

    Her problem is WI.

    Isn't WI supposed to be safer than MI?
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