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  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    MarqueeMark said:

    While the Democrats are concerned that Black Lives Matter, they seem to have forgotten that White Voters Matter.


    Like Labour they took their middle America white unionised vote for granted.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 12,102
    Pong said:

    Speedy said:

    EDW20000 said:

    Amazing night, but not quite Brexit amazing

    I think it's actually greater, since the Exit Polls where extremely wrong, also 99% of opinion polls.
    The polls look to have been out by about 4 points on average, although it's still early.

    4 points is not far from the average polling error in US elections - an error of that magnitude ain't unexpected.
    I think the average error of opinion polls was smaller than that. But the error for exit polls should be much smaller still, because there's no uncertainty about turnout to contend with.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    International Spectator
    BREAKING: Anti-Trump protesters have reportedly gathered outside the White House.
    #ElectionNight
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    edited November 2016
    Fox
    BREAKING: Fox News projects @realDonaldTrump wins the battleground state of #Wisconsin. #ElectionNight #Election2016 https://t.co/nklVoZ2CD2

    And Iowa
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    From the faces of delegates in the news footage of the Javits Center, it is clear that most in the room think that Hillary has lost.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    CNN

    Trump gets Florida :wink:
  • PeterCPeterC Posts: 1,275
    edited November 2016
    MTimT said:

    From the faces of delegates in the news footage of the Javits Center, it is clear that most in the room think that Hillary has lost.

    Look at the charts of gold and the Dow for the avoidance of doubt.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,873
    OK guys, gotta crash..... Enjoy the further twists and turns.
  • OUTOUT Posts: 569
    Drowsyville Maine and Tumbleweed County Nebraska could tip the balance.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    So you can admit that you sexually assault women on tape, say you would steal another countries recourses, lie 24/7, call Mexicans mostly rapists and murders, disrespect democracy, and worse and STILL be elected as the most powerful person in the world? Huh? Are Americans absolutely mad?
    Is this were we are heading, basically trusting fascist strongmen who lies about caring about the working class?

    Does this mean we have to forget about truth and facts now and listen to Bill Mitchell now?
  • nielhnielh Posts: 1,307
    The risk of a conflict that ultimately destroys the prosperity of Europe must now be quite high. It is fairly easy to see the path to war: the promises made by the populist right wing governments are not fulfilled, someone else is blamed, this then leads to a war.

    I don't think that a war with Russia is necessarily likely under President Trump, it is more likely that there would just be Crimea style capitulation over the Baltic states.

    If the EU has no power base of its own, no military etc, no coherant decision making process, then the whole of Europe risks fragmenting and ultimately the continent could quite easily descend in to conflict.
    This has actually been a long term objective of the Russians, events (Brexit, Trump) have been playing in to their hands.
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