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The boundary review must be a high priority for the govt now, wonder if it's possible to bring it forward from 2018 given most of the work is already done? I imagine Corbyn would be of great help in getting it through, given it will mean almost all of his MPs would be up for reselection!TCPoliticalBetting said:
In a few months they will be focused on the boundary review and keeping their main job - being an MP.Pong said:
But she doesn't have the patronage networks in place - the ones that have just been shattered - particularly Osborne's clique - is likely to be very bitter, whatever they say in public.chestnut said:
She has a dozen Labour leavers plus Carswell to help with all things European, and those Labour MPs who are sitting anywhere other than London and Uni Towns must know they are on the wrong side of their electorate on the issue of the parliament.Pong said:How is May going to make this work with a majority of 12?
The honeymoon will be short.
There are 250 MPs on the backbenches who will all want pork.
And the barrel is looking empty.0 -
A view from an experienced diplomat.
"Britain’s diplomats need a shot of adrenaline that only Mr Johnson, with his panache and brio, can provide at this crucial point in our history. "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/14/boris-johnson-and-the-foreign-office-are-a-perfect-fit/0 -
If you think it would suit me maybe I would. Although actually it wouldn't as I'm a pale skinned over weight middle aged white man.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Never heard of it - do you purchase their make-up, perchance?hoveite said:
Fair point. As was the mention of the Premier League. But really we aren't at the very top.Sunil_Prasannan said:
The English language, Shakespeare, Dickens, etc, etc.hoveite said:
Do you really think that we have more soft power than America, Japan or South Korea?MP_SE said:
Talking bollocks. The UK is regularly considered either the top or one of the top countries in the world for soft power.Theuniondivvie said:Sick burn. And Boris such an expert on Ugandan discussions.
https://twitter.com/JoeWSJ/status/753640209460367361
What do we have that competes with Hollywood, Pokemon Go or AmorePacific?
BTW I've never heard of AmorePacific. Is that for young persons?
AmorePacific is a South Korean cosmetic company popular with young Chinese (and East Asian in general) women.
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Yep ;-)KentRising said:
If you're getting booed by a bunch of cheese-eating French bureaucrats, you know you must be doing something right.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/753680477744091136TCPoliticalBetting said:
I wonder if he spoke in French and the Brits did not understand?Tykejohnno said:Christopher Meyer @SirSocks
To French embassy tonite for national day party. Boris addresses an adoring French crowd brilliantly. A few boos from Brits. Quelle ironie!0 -
Interesting; I don't doubt it. If you listen to the programme, however, they go as far as they can to avoid labelling Leavers swivel-eyed Eurosceptic loons. They conducted a social attitudes survey to understand the measured rationale of why people voted Leave. At no point did they say such reasons were less valid than europhiles; the conclusions were interesting, I would be interested to hear peoples' responses.anotherDave said:
Toby Young has a column addressing this attitude.TOPPING said:
And for @Sean_F
listen to it yourselves. Very interesting.
bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07k08xd
Confirmation bias, bad manners, dolts refusing to engage or respond. All fine. Make your own minds up.
It's an interesting programme, however, although I appreciate that *xp*rts might have had a hand in it.
"In general, people whom social psychologists categorize as ‘weird’ (Western, Educated, Industrialised, Rich and Democratic) are even more tribal when it comes to their attitudes and behaviour than those we think of as belonging to an inward-looking monoculture — Ukip voters, for instance. Contrary to the self-understanding of the Bremainers, being ‘outward-facing’ doesn’t mean being open to new ideas.
This unwelcome fact is an example of a well-established rule in social psychology, which is that the more knowledgeable you are, the more likely you are to suffer from ideological bias, whether left or right. That was the conclusion of Peter Hatemi and Rose McDermott in a recent paper for the Annual Review of Political Science. All the evidence suggests that those who place a high value on facts and see themselves as truth-seekers are no more likely to arrive at their political views through reason and analysis than swivel-eyed Eurosceptic loons. "
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/the-truth-about-post-truth-politics/
(apart from you @John_M)
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America, probably not. Japan and South Korea, for certain.hoveite said:
Do you really think that we have more soft power than America, Japan or South Korea?MP_SE said:
Talking bollocks. The UK is regularly considered either the top or one of the top countries in the world for soft power.Theuniondivvie said:Sick burn. And Boris such an expert on Ugandan discussions.
https://twitter.com/JoeWSJ/status/753640209460367361
What do we have that competes with Hollywood, Pokemon Go or AmorePacific?
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Eddie Izzard, is that you?hoveite said:
If you think it would suit me maybe I would. Although actually it wouldn't as I'm a pale skinned over weight middle aged white man.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Never heard of it - do you purchase their make-up, perchance?hoveite said:
Fair point. As was the mention of the Premier League. But really we aren't at the very top.Sunil_Prasannan said:
The English language, Shakespeare, Dickens, etc, etc.hoveite said:
Do you really think that we have more soft power than America, Japan or South Korea?MP_SE said:
Talking bollocks. The UK is regularly considered either the top or one of the top countries in the world for soft power.Theuniondivvie said:Sick burn. And Boris such an expert on Ugandan discussions.
https://twitter.com/JoeWSJ/status/753640209460367361
What do we have that competes with Hollywood, Pokemon Go or AmorePacific?
BTW I've never heard of AmorePacific. Is that for young persons?
AmorePacific is a South Korean cosmetic company popular with young Chinese (and East Asian in general) women.
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Just to confirm the local result on Tuesday in Shepton Mallet - Lib Dem 419, Con 283 - LD gain from Labour.0
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Sky headline is "attack" in nice.
I know sky have the reputation of never long for wrong, but I highly doubt it on something this serious.0 -
Absolutely agree. They owe us nothing. It's not even a divorce. We resigned. We're leaving a large club. They have a set of collective national interests that need to be respected and a domestic political hinterland that will drive them as much as ours drive us.kle4 said:
There's a difference between being firm with us and being punitive. It is not to their benefit to be punitive, but it is to be firm. Some will call for the former but will be overrulled I'd think, but being firm is simply common sense. I don't know why people get so upset at the idea they will be firm. That doens't mean we cannot get a great deal, but we need to go in eyes open that they will need to to get a deal they can sell back home too, at least in perception.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Yes a major customer dependent upon £100bn of business a year is going to get tough with us........... FFS But there is no accounting for the level of stupidity by folk that run the EU.kle4 said:
He's not wrong. They have a fine line to walk - it serves them not to treat us like complete shit, but they cannot let it be seen that we are doing just fine and dandy.John_M said:
The only regret I have for Brexit is we're abandoning Poland to their fate. On the other hand, they're terrible on LGBT issues, so I can channel my inner lefty and say they deserve it.MTimT said:
The article made me want to give him honorary British citizenship. He is clearly too sensible for the EU.chestnut said:Polish foreign minister warns Brexit could have a domino effect
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-poland-idUKKCN0ZU2AQ?il=0
"He also criticised Germany for a post-Brexit meeting that German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier held with the European Union's six founding members. Waszczykowski said small groups should not be able to make decisions and then force these on to others.
"That's a recipe for catastrophe," he said.
He said he thought Britons had voted to leave the EU due to "thoughtless actions by the European elite who want to push through 'even more Europe'".
He said another feeling that had probably played a role in Britain's decision was "that Europe interferes in areas that should be solely controlled by the member states themselves".
Oh, and this:
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/753682339532836868
We do have leverage, but so do they. That's just the way negotiations are.0 -
Maoists For May!Sandpit said:
The boundary review must be a high priority for the govt now, wonder if it's possible to bring it forward from 2018 given most of the work is already done? I imagine Corbyn would be of great help in getting it through, given it will mean almost all of his MPs would be up for reselection!TCPoliticalBetting said:
In a few months they will be focused on the boundary review and keeping their main job - being an MP.Pong said:
But she doesn't have the patronage networks in place - the ones that have just been shattered - particularly Osborne's clique - is likely to be very bitter, whatever they say in public.chestnut said:
She has a dozen Labour leavers plus Carswell to help with all things European, and those Labour MPs who are sitting anywhere other than London and Uni Towns must know they are on the wrong side of their electorate on the issue of the parliament.Pong said:How is May going to make this work with a majority of 12?
The honeymoon will be short.
There are 250 MPs on the backbenches who will all want pork.
And the barrel is looking empty.0 -
Yes, but mime artists are a genuine public menace, not merely un-ankhmorporkian.Sean_F said:
That sounds very reasonable to me, rather like Lord Vetinari hanging mime artists upside down in pits of scorpions.FF43 said:
Too sensible? I have to admit to being prejudiced against politicians from Poland's Justice and Law Party. Mr Waszczykowski was defending his party's controversial media censorship law on the grounds that it eradicated the diseases of bikers and vegetarians, which obviously are totally un-PolishMTimT said:
The article made me want to give him honorary British citizenship. He is clearly too sensible for the EU.0 -
Yes me. Want is not the right word. More that I regard Trump as the lesser of two evilsThe_Apocalypse said:Is there anyone on PB (besides RodCrosby and blackburn) who wants a Trump presidency?
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I'm an even more annoying and less funny version of Eddie Izzard.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Eddie Izzard, is that you?hoveite said:
If you think it would suit me maybe I would. Although actually it wouldn't as I'm a pale skinned over weight middle aged white man.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Never heard of it - do you purchase their make-up, perchance?hoveite said:
Fair point. As was the mention of the Premier League. But really we aren't at the very top.Sunil_Prasannan said:
The English language, Shakespeare, Dickens, etc, etc.hoveite said:
Do you really think that we have more soft power than America, Japan or South Korea?MP_SE said:
Talking bollocks. The UK is regularly considered either the top or one of the top countries in the world for soft power.Theuniondivvie said:Sick burn. And Boris such an expert on Ugandan discussions.
https://twitter.com/JoeWSJ/status/753640209460367361
What do we have that competes with Hollywood, Pokemon Go or AmorePacific?
BTW I've never heard of AmorePacific. Is that for young persons?
AmorePacific is a South Korean cosmetic company popular with young Chinese (and East Asian in general) women.0 -
By french standards of political debate I think booing is quite mild. They didn't kidnap him, or set anything on fire.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/753680477744091136TCPoliticalBetting said:
I wonder if he spoke in French and the Brits did not understand?Tykejohnno said:Christopher Meyer @SirSocks
To French embassy tonite for national day party. Boris addresses an adoring French crowd brilliantly. A few boos from Brits. Quelle ironie!0 -
System Addictpaulyork64 said:
I remember Five Star. They are not worthy of a tribute act.PlatoSaid said:Matthew Goodwin
Launch of a British Five Star Movement? Latest e-mail from @Arron_banks to Leave.EU supporters -> https://t.co/Av8OHQRi2i
I never can get enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voK6C8tcIBY0 -
13th July = Rail minister Claire Perry admits she's considered quitting over Southern Rail
14th July = The fairy godmother that is Mrs May grants her wish.
Good riddance.0 -
Hmm
Christopher Hope
NEW David Cameron over-ruled civil service advice and increased pay offs to some of his spads by £280,000 taking the total bill to over £1m.0 -
You get worse at La Scala. Or the Cannes Film Festival.anotherDave said:
By french standards of political debate I think booing is quite mild. They didn't kidnap him, or set anything on fire.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/753680477744091136TCPoliticalBetting said:
I wonder if he spoke in French and the Brits did not understand?Tykejohnno said:Christopher Meyer @SirSocks
To French embassy tonite for national day party. Boris addresses an adoring French crowd brilliantly. A few boos from Brits. Quelle ironie!0 -
TCPoliticalBetting said:
13th July = Rail minister Claire Perry admits she's considered quitting over Southern Rail
14th July = The fairy godmother that is Mrs May grants her wish.
Good riddance.
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Apparently he always puts party before country, if you don't count those times he took options his party did not like because he thought it best for the country.John_M said:
Because he loves this country. Whatever else you can say about Cameron, you cannot accuse him of a lack of patriotism.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Yes but why would Cameron want Brexit to be a success?Big_G_NorthWales said:I really hope Boris is a success but if he fail's there is nobody better to step into his shoes than one David Cameron
I still think he was wrong on Brexit (ask me again in 12 months though), but I should think he is hoping Brexit is as good as it can be made, while still thinking it is not as good as Remain.0 -
There is a sobering corrective here by Anthony Hilton in the Standard What do we have to sell following the Brexit vote? As we know, the UK is weak on manufactured goods and strong on services. Trade agreements are invariably more open to goods than services. They are also reciprocal. We open ourselves up to the other party in exchange for them doing the same for us. With these trade deals we are open where we are weak on manufactured goods, but they remain closed where we are strong on services.DanSmith said:
His whole argument rests on how well we do at negotiating free trade agreements. If that goes well, Brexit will be a success.FF43 said:
Wow. David Davis seems totally unaware that negotiations require the involvement of other parties. We're not even talking about initial negotiating positions.John_M said:Not sure we have a coherent message yet, but this is the Telegraph's take on it. Looks like Brexit = CETA+. Hmm. Not convinced.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/14/the-blueprint-for-brexit-how-britain-will-negotiate-out-of-the-e/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Almost every one of those bullet points fall apart at the first prod.
Dangerous delusions.
Does that compensate for the Brexit crunch?0 -
What!? You are praising a bunch of homophobes who passed a law in 2014 making homosexuality into a criminal offence (with a maximum sentence of life imprisonment).murali_s said:
Love it - well done the Ugandans!!Theuniondivvie said:Sick burn. And Boris such an expert on Ugandan discussions.
https://twitter.com/JoeWSJ/status/753640209460367361
We (and others) stopped giving them aid because of it.0 -
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Man looks after his friends. A good and bad quality.PlatoSaid said:Hmm
Christopher Hope
NEW David Cameron over-ruled civil service advice and increased pay offs to some of his spads by £280,000 taking the total bill to over £1m.
Bit early to say if it is a meritorious I'd have thought - time will tell if they are indeed worthy of the positions, and we can all hope they will be, but the fresh faces or massively promoted haven't had the opportunity to prove or disprove such a claim.Tykejohnno said:https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/753702815533527040
The plebs cabinet ;-)0 -
Newsnight Nick "Mrs May told Osborne he had over promised and under delivered"!!!
"Not done enough to champion deep economic reform".0 -
Sam Cam in a 17m mansion... AND the Cameron's are now free to concentrate of those Apprenticships at Sports Direct for the kids...Tykejohnno said:https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/753702815533527040
The plebs cabinet ;-)
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I thought bozza was something of an expert on Ugandan Constitutional Matters?John_M said:
I would concede that I'd be terrified at the prospect of playing them at football.Theuniondivvie said:
You're in danger of looking like you really care about the opinion of a Ugandan government spokesman.MP_SE said:
Talking bollocks. The UK is regularly considered either the top or one of the top countries in the world for soft power.Theuniondivvie said:Sick burn. And Boris such an expert on Ugandan discussions.
https://twitter.com/JoeWSJ/status/7536402094603673610 -
Should give davis plenty of cover to get on with it while the press are looking the other way.AnneJGP said:
Maybe this is one time the Law of Unintended Consequences will work in our favour.Pulpstar said:
To be honest I'd be more worried about their record on gay rights, than anything Boris has said about them...Theuniondivvie said:Sick burn. And Boris such an expert on Ugandan discussions.
https://twitter.com/JoeWSJ/status/753640209460367361
If Mr Johnson goes on stirring things up like this, the disorientated CS in the FCO are going to have plenty to worry about without giving a thought to the EU.0 -
She's not wrong.TCPoliticalBetting said:Newsnight Nick "Mrs May told Osborne he had over promised and under delivered"!!!
"Not done enough to champion deep economic reform".0 -
So, not only did she kick his arse out of government and sent him skulking out the back door, she also sent him away with a flea in his ear!TCPoliticalBetting said:Newsnight Nick "Mrs May told Osborne he had over promised and under delivered"!!!
"Not done enough to champion deep economic reform".
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That was funny from the campaign ;-)GIN1138 said:
Sam Cam in a 17m mansion... AND the Cameron's are now free to concentrate of those Apprenticships at Sports Direct for the kids...Tykejohnno said:https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/753702815533527040
The plebs cabinet ;-)0 -
Thankfully earlier in the year, I already visited all the Southern stations out to Gatwick that were recently added to the London Oystercard network, as well as riding the entire Southern network outside London. Last bit I did was Barnham to Havant, Bedhampton to Cosham and Fareham to St Denys (Southampton).TCPoliticalBetting said:13th July = Rail minister Claire Perry admits she's considered quitting over Southern Rail
14th July = The fairy godmother that is Mrs May grants her wish.
Good riddance.0 -
Let us not forget that Uganda has a shocking human rights record and is also one of the most corrupt countries in the world.Disraeli said:
What!? You are praising a bunch of homophobes who passed a law in 2014 making homosexuality into a criminal offence (with a maximum sentence of life imprisonment).murali_s said:
Love it - well done the Ugandans!!Theuniondivvie said:Sick burn. And Boris such an expert on Ugandan discussions.
https://twitter.com/JoeWSJ/status/753640209460367361
We (and others) stopped giving them aid because of it.
The illiberal left find friends in strange places.0 -
Sky - People dead in nice.0
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Sky claiming that dozens have been killed according to a source in Nice.0
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French TV reports on Twitter are bleak regarding the Nice incident, sorry to say.0
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Alex Andreou
Well, this is rather depressing.
More people fancy May over Corbyn as PM ***even if you excluded Tory voters***.
https://t.co/h4eAk0abzv0 -
Boris been in the job one day & looks like he is going to have to step up.0
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Also, for the person who mentioned Pokemon Go. It was lifted from a game developed in Spain (Invizimals, by Novarama). Then brought to mobile as a blank canvas by Niantic in San Francisco, who then approached the Pokemon company about a mobile game using Pokemon with their concept. It took 2 years for them to convince Nintendo (33.3% shareholder in the Pokemon company and ultimate licence controller for the Pokemon brand) that mobile gaming was the future and a further 18 months to develop the game. While Pokemon is successful in its own right, it has taken a Spanish idea with an American developer to bring it into the modern era. Japan has lent the branding and done very little else.0
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Andrew Neil @afneil
Nice incident now very serious -- reports of fatalities.0 -
No she isn't. I suspect she will get around it by under promising, since apparently austerity is dead.glw said:
She's not wrong.TCPoliticalBetting said:Newsnight Nick "Mrs May told Osborne he had over promised and under delivered"!!!
"Not done enough to champion deep economic reform".0 -
£1m amongst (I guess) 100 is £10k each... Not much.
PlatoSaid said:
Hmm
Christopher Hope
NEW David Cameron over-ruled civil service advice and increased pay offs to some of his spads by £280,000 taking the total bill to over £1m.0 -
That dosent sound nice at all.SeanT said:Twitter reporting 50 dead in Nice.
Seems hard to believe but.... eeeesh.0 -
Sunil J. Prasannan is calling for a complete and total shut-down of AV threads entering PB.com, until our forum's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on!The_Apocalypse said:Is there anyone on PB (besides RodCrosby and blackburn) who wants a Trump presidency?
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Ah, so that's why you voted Leave.MarqueeMark said:I think I'd go for Trump. If only to know - just how BAD would he be? Trump is the embodiment of the big red DO NOT PRESS!! button. I can never resist them...
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French TV reports are very confused. 20 dead is the consensus0
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BBC Seem to be confirming the Pence story. Scooped the 1.08 anyway - looks done and done to me.0
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Nice looks grim.
I see Yvette Cooper shares my belief that we are getting a General Election sooner rather than later:
http://labourlist.org/2016/07/yvette-cooper-both-eagle-and-smith-could-be-leader-but-only-one-should-go-for-it/0 -
There are 13 countries where homosexuality carries the death sentence. Another 65 or so where its illegal. Iran is odd. It has the death penalty but in practice encourages gay people to have HT/SRS.Disraeli said:
What!? You are praising a bunch of homophobes who passed a law in 2014 making homosexuality into a criminal offence (with a maximum sentence of life imprisonment).murali_s said:
Love it - well done the Ugandans!!Theuniondivvie said:Sick burn. And Boris such an expert on Ugandan discussions.
https://twitter.com/JoeWSJ/status/753640209460367361
We (and others) stopped giving them aid because of it.
I always liked William Gibson's quote: "The future is already here. It's just not evenly distributed."0 -
I am warming to her... slowly.GIN1138 said:
So, not only did she kick his arse out of government and sent him skulking out the back door, she also sent him away with a flea in his ear!TCPoliticalBetting said:Newsnight Nick "Mrs May told Osborne he had over promised and under delivered"!!!
"Not done enough to champion deep economic reform".
What a woman!
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Great bandSunil_Prasannan said:
System Addictpaulyork64 said:
I remember Five Star. They are not worthy of a tribute act.PlatoSaid said:Matthew Goodwin
Launch of a British Five Star Movement? Latest e-mail from @Arron_banks to Leave.EU supporters -> https://t.co/Av8OHQRi2i
I never can get enough
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They were local-ish to me as well - Romford!anotherDave said:
Great bandSunil_Prasannan said:
System Addictpaulyork64 said:
I remember Five Star. They are not worthy of a tribute act.PlatoSaid said:Matthew Goodwin
Launch of a British Five Star Movement? Latest e-mail from @Arron_banks to Leave.EU supporters -> https://t.co/Av8OHQRi2i
I never can get enough
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I'll bet it is. Hope its not taxpayers money for the extra.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
just seen the pictures....it's an HGV that has ploughed into the crowd.0
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As our rail expert, what is the reason that the Southampton St Mary's platform area is not used to move football supporters in and out on match days?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Thankfully earlier in the year, I already visited all the Southern stations out to Gatwick that were recently added to the London Oystercard network, as well as riding the entire Southern network outside London. Last bit I did was Barnham to Havant, Bedhampton to Cosham and Fareham to St Denys (Southampton).TCPoliticalBetting said:13th July = Rail minister Claire Perry admits she's considered quitting over Southern Rail
14th July = The fairy godmother that is Mrs May grants her wish.
Good riddance.
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6 months notice!Pulpstar said:
I'll bet it is. Hope its not taxpayers money for the extra.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
"BME cultures are, for the most part, more homophobic and misogynist than 'Evil Whitey' culture" - discussJohn_M said:
There are 13 countries where homosexuality carries the death sentence. Another 65 or so where its illegal. Iran is odd. It has the death penalty but in practice encourages gay people to have HT/SRS.Disraeli said:
What!? You are praising a bunch of homophobes who passed a law in 2014 making homosexuality into a criminal offence (with a maximum sentence of life imprisonment).murali_s said:
Love it - well done the Ugandans!!Theuniondivvie said:Sick burn. And Boris such an expert on Ugandan discussions.
https://twitter.com/JoeWSJ/status/753640209460367361
We (and others) stopped giving them aid because of it.
I always liked William Gibson's quote: "The future is already here. It's just not evenly distributed."
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Rachel Sylvester has kept back a juicy Leadsom morsel:
"As an employer we're not - let's face it - most of us don't employ men as nannies, most of us don't. Now you can call that sexist, I call that cautious and very sensible when you look at the stats. Your odds are stacked against you if you employ a man. We know paedophiles are attracted to working with children. I'm sorry but they're the facts."
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/7537060582883328010 -
Picture on Al Jazeera shows 8-10 bodies lying on the road.0
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It is taxpayers' money, but it is what is due per their contracts.Pulpstar said:
I'll bet it is. Hope its not taxpayers money for the extra.TheScreamingEagles said:
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I'm a man but she's spot on. Don't see any issue, except maybe offending some overly sensitive metrosexuals.Tissue_Price said:Rachel Sylvester has kept back a juicy Leadsom morsel:
"As an employer we're not - let's face it - most of us don't employ men as nannies, most of us don't. Now you can call that sexist, I call that cautious and very sensible when you look at the stats. Your odds are stacked against you if you employ a man. We know paedophiles are attracted to working with children. I'm sorry but they're the facts."
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Sky news
30 dead at least. Stating "after a truck drove into a crowd of people"
May well be a attack but Keep in mind that we here have had incidents here where people have heart attack lost control and drove through / into crowds0 -
Much more of this sort of thing and Madame Guillotine will be making a comeback.SeanT said:Exterminate these ISIS cunts.
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For those of you on here who think UKIP have any future please note that they couldn't even field a candidate in the Cornwall by-election they were defending.
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Wouldn't we all do the same for our staff, if they were being laid off because we had quit?Pulpstar said:
Ugh.PlatoSaid said:Hmm
Christopher Hope
NEW David Cameron over-ruled civil service advice and increased pay offs to some of his spads by £280,000 taking the total bill to over £1m.
Cameron has refused his pension, so he deserves some credit here to be fair.
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The kind of political year we've had so far really needs to be capped off with a general election this autumn surely?Tissue_Price said:Nice looks grim.
I see Yvette Cooper shares my belief that we are getting a General Election sooner rather than later:
http://labourlist.org/2016/07/yvette-cooper-both-eagle-and-smith-could-be-leader-but-only-one-should-go-for-it/0 -
Is it confirmed as a jihadist?SeanT said:
The terrifying thing is that this is just so easy. A lorry. A crowd. A jihadist driver. Fifty dead. Simple as fuck.FrancisUrquhart said:just seen the pictures....it's an HGV that has ploughed into the crowd.
How do you stop madness like that?
And it doesn't seem like there is a way to stop lone wolf or group extremists. And no way to stop their spread. You stamp them down, they survive and then thrive on some new piece of dirt. A tiny tiny minority support even their purported aims, but it's still millions. About the best that can be done is stamp down as hard as you can and limit the damage for a time.0 -
However the media have been using the term attack from the get go, where as with like the bin lorry there was a lot to of caution about what had happened.Moses_ said:Sky news
30 dead at least. Stating "after a truck drove into a crowd of people"
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You can't. The attacker always has the advantage.SeanT said:
The terrifying thing is that this is just so easy. A lorry. A crowd. A jihadist driver. Fifty dead. Simple as fuck.FrancisUrquhart said:just seen the pictures....it's an HGV that has ploughed into the crowd.
How do you stop madness like that?
Let's wait for more solid reportage. It could have been an accident.0 -
My impression was the Tories themselves really don't feel like one, can any Tories say if that's the case in their circles?GIN1138 said:
The kind of political year we've had so far really needs to be capped off with a general election this autumn surely?Tissue_Price said:Nice looks grim.
I see Yvette Cooper shares my belief that we are getting a General Election sooner rather than later:
http://labourlist.org/2016/07/yvette-cooper-both-eagle-and-smith-could-be-leader-but-only-one-should-go-for-it/-1 -
I take it you wouldn't employ a Muslim as an airline pilot either?Pauly said:
I'm a man but she's spot on. Don't see any issue, except maybe offending some overly sensitive metrosexuals.Tissue_Price said:Rachel Sylvester has kept back a juicy Leadsom morsel:
"As an employer we're not - let's face it - most of us don't employ men as nannies, most of us don't. Now you can call that sexist, I call that cautious and very sensible when you look at the stats. Your odds are stacked against you if you employ a man. We know paedophiles are attracted to working with children. I'm sorry but they're the facts."
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/7537060582883328010 -
I don't know how many times I'm going to have to say this but social conservative policies only work if enacted at the national level - it's why so many far-leftists seek to destroy the nation-state to banish it to history irreversibly. Socially liberal policies are imposed on councils whether UKIP are in or notTheKrakenAwakes said:For those of you on here who think UKIP have any future please note that they couldn't even field a candidate in the Cornwall by-election they were defending.
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Tune in to Radio 4 tomorrow morning.Pauly said:
I'm a man but she's spot on. Don't see any issue, except maybe offending some overly sensitive metrosexuals.Tissue_Price said:Rachel Sylvester has kept back a juicy Leadsom morsel:
"As an employer we're not - let's face it - most of us don't employ men as nannies, most of us don't. Now you can call that sexist, I call that cautious and very sensible when you look at the stats. Your odds are stacked against you if you employ a man. We know paedophiles are attracted to working with children. I'm sorry but they're the facts."
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/753706058288332801
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The pictures show the front windscreen full of bullet holes. Looks like the French police were certainly treating it as an attack. Very sad.FrancisUrquhart said:
However the media have been using the term attack from the get go, where as with like the bin lorry there was a lot to of caution about what had happened.Moses_ said:Sky news
30 dead at least. Stating "after a truck drove into a crowd of people"
May well be a attack but Keep in mind that we here have had incidents here where people have heart attack lost control and drove through / into crowds
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No because Muslims weren't evolutionary designed to blow up planes, whereas women are purpose built for the scenario she describes through evolution. It's just science.Tissue_Price said:
I take it you wouldn't employ a Muslim as an airline pilot either?Pauly said:
I'm a man but she's spot on. Don't see any issue, except maybe offending some overly sensitive metrosexuals.Tissue_Price said:Rachel Sylvester has kept back a juicy Leadsom morsel:
"As an employer we're not - let's face it - most of us don't employ men as nannies, most of us don't. Now you can call that sexist, I call that cautious and very sensible when you look at the stats. Your odds are stacked against you if you employ a man. We know paedophiles are attracted to working with children. I'm sorry but they're the facts."
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Why would the civil service recommend £280k then ?TheScreamingEagles said:
It is taxpayers' money, but it is what is due per their contracts.Pulpstar said:
I'll bet it is. Hope its not taxpayers money for the extra.TheScreamingEagles said:
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Apparently it's all over IS twitter accounts.
Pictures of crowds running give some credence to the report of gunfire as well?0 -
I fear you may well be proved correct. RT reporting a possible firefight between driver and security forces ( please note these reports unconfirmed)FrancisUrquhart said:
However the media have been using the term attack from the get go, where as with like the bin lorry there was a lot to of caution about what had happened.Moses_ said:Sky news
30 dead at least. Stating "after a truck drove into a crowd of people"
May well be a attack but Keep in mind that we here have had incidents here where people have heart attack lost control and drove through / into crowds
Note some pictures are very distressing so have not posted the link.0 -
The pictures show the windscreen riddled with bullets concentrated on the passenger side.0
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Lat's not forget all the activists will be worn out after the referendum.kle4 said:
My impression was the Tories themselves really don't feel like one, can any Tories say if that's the case in their circles?GIN1138 said:
The kind of political year we've had so far really needs to be capped off with a general election this autumn surely?Tissue_Price said:Nice looks grim.
I see Yvette Cooper shares my belief that we are getting a General Election sooner rather than later:
http://labourlist.org/2016/07/yvette-cooper-both-eagle-and-smith-could-be-leader-but-only-one-should-go-for-it/0 -
I think the Civil Service suggested £750k and it was actually £1m.Pulpstar said:
Why would the civil service recommend £280k then ?TheScreamingEagles said:
It is taxpayers' money, but it is what is due per their contracts.Pulpstar said:
I'll bet it is. Hope its not taxpayers money for the extra.TheScreamingEagles said:
Someone in the new government decided to be shitty and open themselves to lots of compensation payments
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While we wait to hear what's happening in France (those poor people ), dug up a soft power index. UK 2nd behind US:
http://softpower30.portland-communications.com/ranking/0 -
I imagine the contracts contain mandatory and discretionary elements. The 280k is probably the bare minimum.Pulpstar said:
Why would the civil service recommend £280k then ?TheScreamingEagles said:
It is taxpayers' money, but it is what is due per their contracts.Pulpstar said:
I'll bet it is. Hope its not taxpayers money for the extra.TheScreamingEagles said:
Someone in the new government decided to be shitty and open themselves to lots of compensation payments
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And think of the poor electoral service officers.AnneJGP said:
Lat's not forget all the activists will be worn out after the referendum.kle4 said:
My impression was the Tories themselves really don't feel like one, can any Tories say if that's the case in their circles?GIN1138 said:
The kind of political year we've had so far really needs to be capped off with a general election this autumn surely?Tissue_Price said:Nice looks grim.
I see Yvette Cooper shares my belief that we are getting a General Election sooner rather than later:
http://labourlist.org/2016/07/yvette-cooper-both-eagle-and-smith-could-be-leader-but-only-one-should-go-for-it/0 -
That street has a bigger police presence than most at all times.0
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Awful. The French have to get a grip on terror.0
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Only by utter brutality and ruthlessness - ie the sort of thing Kim Il Jong would do to the person responsibles entire extended family and probably whole town if someone tried it on.SeanT said:
The terrifying thing is that this is just so easy. A lorry. A crowd. A jihadist driver. Fifty dead. Simple as fuck.
How do you stop madness like that?
There was a dark ages european king who found that executing attacking vikings didnt put them off their attacks, so he started executing them by having his expert farriers skin them alive which apparently hurt rather a lot and made them decide to pillage elsewhere.
I'm not entirely convinced that the editorial board of The Guardian would entirely approve of such methods though.0 -
The public don't want onekle4 said:
My impression was the Tories themselves really don't feel like one, can any Tories say if that's the case in their circles?GIN1138 said:
The kind of political year we've had so far really needs to be capped off with a general election this autumn surely?Tissue_Price said:Nice looks grim.
I see Yvette Cooper shares my belief that we are getting a General Election sooner rather than later:
http://labourlist.org/2016/07/yvette-cooper-both-eagle-and-smith-could-be-leader-but-only-one-should-go-for-it/0 -
There seem to be cabinet office documents with the media.alex. said:
I imagine the contracts contain mandatory and discretionary elements. The 280k is probably the bare minimum.Pulpstar said:
Why would the civil service recommend £280k then ?TheScreamingEagles said:
It is taxpayers' money, but it is what is due per their contracts.Pulpstar said:
I'll bet it is. Hope its not taxpayers money for the extra.TheScreamingEagles said:
Someone in the new government decided to be shitty and open themselves to lots of compensation payments
https://twitter.com/Edsbrown/status/753679732919660546
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In what universe does Canada have more soft power than France?John_M said:While we wait to hear what's happening in France (those poor people
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http://softpower30.portland-communications.com/ranking/0 -
Prefet says 30 dead and hundreds injured.0
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Picture of the truck
http://twitter.com/Nice_Matin/status/753700953707126784/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw0 -
Him and millions like him sadly. We'll be picking up the pieces of the red button pressers for fucking years.Richard_Nabavi said:
Ah, so that's why you voted Leave.MarqueeMark said:I think I'd go for Trump. If only to know - just how BAD would he be? Trump is the embodiment of the big red DO NOT PRESS!! button. I can never resist them...
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